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Apple on Tuesday supplied developers with its third pre-release beta of iOS 7.1, a forthcoming update for its mobile operating system, with the latest build bringing fixes for creating a new iCloud account, as well as playing back audio books.

iOS 7.1


People familiar with the software indicated it is identified as "Build 11D5127c." It is available to download from Apple's developer website, as well as over the air on test devices, but is not intended for general public use.

The third beta of iOS 7.1 is said to fix an issue that could arrise when creating a new iCloud account during setup. In addition, the latest build reportedly no longer gives an error when users enable iCloud Keychain.

In addition, Apple also fixed an issue in iOS 7.1 that could cause problems when listening to audiobooks on an iPhone, iPad or iPod touch.

The software is not yet ready for primetime, however, as people familiar with the latest build said that Apple has informed developers that a handful of known issues remain. For example, 32-bit Bluetooth applications on 64-bit devices, like the iPhone 5s or latest iPads, do not work properly.

An error is also said to remain in which the Messages application sometimes indicates an iMessage send failure immediately after sending. Developers can work around this by tapping the error icon to re-send the message.

Previously, Apple provided developers with the second beta of iOS 7.1 in mid-December, addressing bugs related to iTunes Match, and also making it easier to access Touch ID settings on the iPhone 5s.
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Im really enjoying 7, can't wait to see what turn 8 is going to take.

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Im really enjoying 7, can't wait to see what turn 8 is taking.
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This better darn well fix (insert favorite pet peeve, issue that only I have, feature I need to function in life, Android feature they’ve had for years) or I’m dumping Apple. Don’t they test this stuff? Apple’s QA has gone south since Steve died. I might just buy a Galaxy over this.

 

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If it doesn't fix the icons I'm going back to Symbian!

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I hope they fix the UI for unlocking your phone, the glow effect is too long and it becomes easy for anyone who's casually looking at your phone to figure it out. Really annoying!

I also wish they'd do something about the video player's UI, and the retarded iPad's calendar UI. Whoever thought that creating small month labels and fading them in and out is a good idea?

I am not a big fan of skeuomorphism; however, I preferred the clarity of the previous UI compared to this overly subtle UI which is closer to looking like a mistake than a feature. Like scrolling through the SMS messages, that's not a bouncing effect, or is it?
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Unfortunately animations are still terribly slow. There is no reason for this, other than Apple wants it this way.

Evidence: HiddenSettings7, as available from Cydia. This unlocks hidden developer settings, which allow you customize Apples own preset animation function. Slowing down the animations by 50% results in the way they should be.

The devices are not slow, Apple has just chosen too slow of a speed for the animation. Shame.

Also, in 7.1 beta 3, the keyboard (on iPad) seems to have bolder (and blurrier) characters...looks awful.
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I hope it fixes all the crashes I get in Safari. 

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I believe the Bluetooth issue is a misreading of the release notes. The 32-bit issue seems to relate only to apps being compiled using iOS SDK 7.1 beta 3. It should not affect existing apps.
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I hope they fix the UI for unlocking your phone, the glow effect is too long and it becomes easy for anyone who's casually looking at your phone to figure it out. Really annoying!

I also wish they'd do something about the video player's UI, and the retarded iPad's calendar UI. Whoever thought that creating small month labels and fading them in and out is a good idea?

I am not a big fan of skeuomorphism; however, I preferred the clarity of the previous UI compared to this overly subtle UI which is closer to looking like a mistake than a feature. Like scrolling through the SMS messages, that's not a bouncing effect, or is it?

https://www.apple.com/feedback/

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https://www.apple.com/feedback/

seriously

I wonder how much that website gets constructive feedback vs venting vs "Boy-Apple-has-gone-downhill-since-Steve-died" type of replies.

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Im really enjoying 7, can't wait to see what turn 8 is going to take.

You're gonna love 8.



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I tried to update over-the-air via the Settings app and it put my Mini Retina in recovery mode.
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I hope it fixes all the crashes I get in Safari. 

Use Chrome, the only browser tested by Duddler Tech.

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I believe the Bluetooth issue is a misreading of the release notes. The 32-bit issue seems to relate only to apps being compiled using iOS SDK 7.1 beta 3. It should not affect existing apps.

 



Perhaps... but I tried using my 5s BT with a rental over xmas... what a nightmare... but it was Ford Sync... so....
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Use Chrome, the only browser tested by Duddler Tech.

Chrome crashes as well, on ipadair at least.

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I hope they fix the UI for unlocking your phone, the glow effect is too long and it becomes easy for anyone who's casually looking at your phone to figure it out. Really annoying!



I also wish they'd do something about the video player's UI, and the retarded iPad's calendar UI. Whoever thought that creating small month labels and fading them in and out is a good idea?



I am not a big fan of skeuomorphism; however, I preferred the clarity of the previous UI compared to this overly subtle UI which is closer to looking like a mistake than a feature. Like scrolling through the SMS messages, that's not a bouncing effect, or is it?

 



IMO a lot less 'polish' in iOS7 with these new shiney effects. I still need to read up on how to use the calendar(because it does not 'just work') . Deleteing emails- I have to swipe 'just so' to capture the delete part, else it opens the mail. Very frustrating, it worked great in iOS6.


yea yea yea, apple.com/feedback... we know. This is a rant post! 1smile.gif
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I wonder how much that website gets constructive feedback vs venting vs "Boy-Apple-has-gone-downhill-since-Steve-died" type of replies.

i use it several times a year to submit feature requests and the occasional bug report. i have seen exactly two of the requests i've submitted end up as features. i'm not silly enough to think that they're paying attention to me, per se, but based on what i've seen i'm hopeful that they might just aggregate the reports and pay attention to the sum total.
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I know this isn't a support forum, so please ignore if it shouldn't be here, but my Contacts keep disappearing from my 4S using iOS7. 

All disappear except 3 or 4 (perhaps ones MADE on the phone itself?).


I don't need contacts every minute so it's minor annoyance, so I let it drag on sometimes. 

 

Sometimes they re-appear on their own (WiFi Sync from iCloud while at home, perhaps involving iMac, I think).


Sometimes I dig deep into my phone's Settings "looking" for something to do with Contacts.  Then I sometimes find an entry that "shows" them, and they're back.

 

Right now they're staying "gone" a little longer than usual, and I can't find that magic location in Settings where they reappear.

 

I know this isn't an "actionable" story.

 

1st Last bit:  My iCloud storage keeps claiming "full".  I don't mind that either for now, but didn't think it would impair Contacts-Syncing.

2nd Last bit:  I use the Clear list-management app which syncs to my other iOS devices (using cell data).  That iCloud setting keeps getting turned off and it complains that it can't update.  That usually takes "fooling-with" right in Clear.

 

I couldn't resist posting my story.  My apologies to all.

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Anyone here experience occassional reebots of the iPhone 5S running iOS 7 ?

A friend of mine said he experienced such reeboots from time to time.

Hope 7.1 irons all such stuff..

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Apple’s QA has gone south since Steve died.

This would never have happened if Brian Griffin was still alive.



Oh, wait...

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I wonder how much that website gets constructive feedback vs venting vs "Boy-Apple-has-gone-downhill-since-Steve-died" type of replies.

My feedback is always of the constructive variety. The more important question is whether Apple takes any of it seriously or suffers from "not invented here" and sheer arrogance. Look at the GUI in iOS 7. Then again, this GUI wasn't really invented at Apple since it looks like Android and Win 8...
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How about fixing the application management mess that is iOS 7?! When you get 100s of applications, there is no good way to find and delete apps, much less auto-sort them into folders based on type. This along with lack of document management to me are the BIGGEST iOS weaknesses!
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How about fixing the application management mess that is iOS 7?! When you get 100s of applications, there is no good way to find and delete apps, much less auto-sort them into folders based on type. This along with lack of document management to me are the BIGGEST iOS weaknesses!

We had this in iOS 6? If we did I certainly missed it.

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I hope they fix the UI for unlocking your phone, the glow effect is too long and it becomes easy for anyone who's casually looking at your phone to figure it out. Really annoying!

I also wish they'd do something about the video player's UI, and the retarded iPad's calendar UI. Whoever thought that creating small month labels and fading them in and out is a good idea?

I am not a big fan of skeuomorphism; however, I preferred the clarity of the previous UI compared to this overly subtle UI which is closer to looking like a mistake than a feature. Like scrolling through the SMS messages, that's not a bouncing effect, or is it?
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Agree to all of the above - ESPECIALLY why do I have to unlock my iPhone 5s to access the "End Call" button when someone called me (also the sensor seems to always take 2 or 3 tries when I need it to work quickly).

The whole iOS7 design is prettier, but less efficient. The colors are so muted and the contrasts so light that I need to do way more reading instead of quick glancing to navigate now.
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I've been using iOS 7 with my Retina iPad (3rd gen) and it keeps crashing multiple times daily, supposedly due to memory leaks. When I say crash, I mean it goes back to the black screen with a white Apple logo. The iPhone 4S was also a crash-worthy candidate, but really not as bad as the 3rd gen iPad.

Anyone know if that will fix problems with older gen iPads?
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This better darn well fix (insert favorite pet peeve, issue that only I have, feature I need to function in life, Android feature they’ve had for years) or I’m dumping Apple. Don’t they test this stuff? Apple’s QA has gone south since Steve died. I might just buy a Galaxy over this.

 

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Understood and LOL, but seriously, this one really is bad, isn't it? I'm sure some of it is due to my clinging to old technology (for reasons that are outside the scope of discussion in this thread I'm still using an iP4) but others with new hardware have trouble too so that can't be the only issue.

 

This OS has REALLY slowed down my ol' 4 to the point that I sometimes get pissed off and want to stomp on it. I could accept that *IF* Apple gave me a way to back out and go back to the way it was before (it was fine with iOS6) but they refuse. Bad Apple.

 

Then there's stuff that was screwed in iOS5, became unscrewed in iOS6, and has now been rescrewed and WORSENED in iOS7, like the handling of TV episodes from sources other than the iTunes store. Under iOS7, the word "metadata" seems to be defined as "confused bubble pickle random mukluk purple monkey dishwasher."

 

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I hope it fixes all the crashes I get in Safari. 

 

From your keys to Apple's eyes. What have they done to make such a fundamental tool so unreliable?

 

With the utterly bizarre interactions I've experienced between Calendar, Contacts, and Maps across iOS7 and Mavericks I honestly don't trust my iPhone at all for anything anymore. I just always assume that any result it spews is at best extremely suspect and at worst completely random. It's now just a voice and SMS device (the latter being fine as long as we don't get the desktop Messages app involved, in which case we open a whole NEW game of random drop-and-reorder!).

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Im really enjoying 7, can't wait to see what turn 8 is going to take.
Apple definitely needs to fix Safari. The constant crashes are not acceptable.

With some of these UI changes it seems clear that Apple did start with a blank slate in a way and are slowly adding things back (probably realizing they went too far). Some people are complaining about the circles on the call screen but I actually prefer them. To me it's more consistent. The large round rectangles always seemed off to me. As far as the hit target, well the call screen and lock screen use the same circles. I unlock my iPhone 5 dozens of times in day and never have any issues with it. iOS 8 will definitely be interesting. I'm hoping iPad gets the love this year.
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Understood and LOL, but seriously, this one really is bad, isn't it? I'm sure some of it is due to my clinging to old technology (for reasons that are outside the scope of discussion in this thread I'm still using an iP4) but others with new hardware have trouble too so that can't be the only issue.

 

This OS has REALLY slowed down my ol' 4 to the point that I sometimes get pissed off and want to stomp on it. I could accept that *IF* Apple gave me a way to back out and go back to the way it was before (it was fine with iOS6) but they refuse. Bad Apple.

 

Then there's stuff that was screwed in iOS5, became unscrewed in iOS6, and has now been rescrewed and WORSENED in iOS7, like the handling of TV episodes from sources other than the iTunes store. Under iOS7, the word "metadata" seems to be defined as "confused bubble pickle random mukluk purple monkey dishwasher."

 

 

From your keys to Apple's eyes. What have they done to make such a fundamental tool so unreliable?

 

With the utterly bizarre interactions I've experienced between Calendar, Contacts, and Maps across iOS7 and Mavericks I honestly don't trust my iPhone at all for anything anymore. I just always assume that any result it spews is at best extremely suspect and at worst completely random. It's now just a voice and SMS device (the latter being fine as long as we don't get the desktop Messages app involved, in which case we open a whole NEW game of random drop-and-reorder!).

 

Baloney. I run iOS 7 on an iPad 2. No issues. None! Faster than iOS 6. Battery life just as good. Safari NEVER crashes. You can argue all you want over aesthetics, UI appearance, icon colors, etc. but to call iOS 7 “really bad” in terms of performance is just not reality. Try learning how to actually operate and troubleshoot your iPad 4 instead of blaming Apple for things you can probably correct yourself. A hosed installation does not mean the operating system is bad. You are entitled to your opinion but you are dead wrong on this, period.

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Baloney. I run iOS 7 on an iPad 2. No issues. None!

 

Well yay for you. I assume you produce videos for several different series and load multiple episodes of each on your iDevice for proofing and showing clients? Oh, you don't? Then what the funk do YOU know about how iOS7 handles TV shows from sources outside the iTunes store?

 

You've never had Safari just completely freeze up and refuse to open ANY page without a reboot? If that's what you claim you either use Safari very, very little or you're dropping a little white one.

 

Install iOS7 on an old device. Start it up. Select ANY standard Apple App that's part of the stock OS install. Wait anywhere from three to ten seconds before you can do anything. Tell me it doesn't make you want to crush the piece of stuff under your heel after a while. It didn't do that with iOS5 or iOS6. 7 Broke it. I wouldn't care if they'd let me go back, but they won't. Bad Apple.

 

Look, I'm honestly happy for you that your experience has been trouble free, but to use that experience to insist that anyone who has a problem is "doing it wrong" is insulting and narrow minded.

 

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You are entitled to your opinion but you are dead wrong on this, period.

 

No, you just haven't encountered the particular issues that are bringing my phone to its knees and thus assume that you know more than I do. Bad assumption. Despite the bizarre, random nature of the problems, they are obvious to anyone who looks. I am absolutely, unequivocally RIGHT on this, period. Don't weigh in on things you know nothing about.

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Saw the new improved UI elements on another site...  Slowly, Apple is making iOS7 less of a visual disaster.  Still has a long ways to go, but they are working on it.  Surprising that it has taken them this long to get to what should have been an internal beta.

 

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Baloney. I run iOS 7 on an iPad 2. No issues. None! Faster than iOS 6. Battery life just as good. Safari NEVER crashes. You can argue all you want over aesthetics, UI appearance, icon colors, etc. but to call iOS 7 “really bad” in terms of performance is just not reality. Try learning how to actually operate and troubleshoot your iPad 4 instead of blaming Apple for things you can probably correct yourself. A hosed installation does not mean the operating system is bad. You are entitled to your opinion but you are dead wrong on this, period.

 

You made a bad assumption - the original poster was talking about an iPHONE 4, not iPad 4. And the original poster is right, the performance on iPhone 4 is miserable. Slow, crashy, essentially unusable. 

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I upgraded from iOS 7.0.4, and lost all pictures. However contacts were partially retained and no settings were retained or restored via iCloud. Had to reinstall apps and such manually. Is there something I can do to retrieve the pictures?

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I upgraded from iOS 7.0.4, and lost all pictures. However contacts were partially retained and no settings were retained or restored via iCloud. Had to reinstall apps and such manually. Is there something I can do to retrieve the pictures?

The last 1,000 that are on your Camera Roll are being synced to Photostream, by default. Unless you have that turned off.
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Anyone here experience occassional reebots of the iPhone 5S running iOS 7 ?
A friend of mine said he experienced such reeboots from time to time.
Hope 7.1 irons all such stuff..

Yes, on an iPhone 5.
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I know this isn't a support forum, so please ignore if it shouldn't be here, but my Contacts keep disappearing from my 4S using iOS7. 
All disappear except 3 or 4 (perhaps ones MADE on the phone itself?).


I don't need contacts every minute so it's minor annoyance, so I let it drag on sometimes. 

Sometimes they re-appear on their own (WiFi Sync from iCloud while at home, perhaps involving iMac, I think).





Sometimes I dig deep into my phone's Settings "looking" for something to do with Contacts.  Then I sometimes find an entry that "shows" them, and they're back.



 



Right now they're staying "gone" a little longer than usual, and I can't find that magic location in Settings where they reappear.




I know this isn't an "actionable" story.

1st Last bit:  My iCloud storage keeps claiming "full".  I don't mind that either for now, but didn't think it would impair Contacts-Syncing.
2nd Last bit:  I use the Clear list-management app which syncs to my other iOS devices (using cell data).  That iCloud setting keeps getting turned off and it complains that it can't update.  That usually takes "fooling-with" right in Clear.

I couldn't resist posting my story.  My apologies to all.

Re iCloud full: yes, my iPad 2 does that too from time to time. Check the backups for each app; I find that iCloud turns them all on, so I turn off the largest ones to save space.
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