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Yeah, nice try. You obviously don't understand the underlying meaning of the quote or where it actually originated from. The entire point of the quote is about being INSPIRED by other great ideas. It has nothing to do with actually stealing or copying. This quote gets misused out of context so often I often wonder if the people that use it are just completely biased or just plain stupid?

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T.... they're owned by VW who own 12 car brands, and VW tends to use the same technology across most of their brands.

Absolute nonsense. You’ve obviously never driven a VW v. an Audi v. a Porsche. Likely not even stepped into one.

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Definition of an idiot:

 

Someone who will buy a $30000+ car based on their $199+ phone purchase.

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Google is evil, Audi is stupid...


What's next for VW?? Windows in a Veyron???
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I don't know. For the longest time Audi has always fought a sort of "second best" status under Merc. and BMW.

 

Audi has worked really hard trying to overcome this and by and large have been successful. With their road racing program and wins at LaMans plus the R8 and their SUV's are pretty much on par with Merc. and BMW (maybe). And then they go and do this! Ugh!

 

My daughter's fiance just ordered the biggest Audi SUV. Luckily it won't have Android in it! :)

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"My iPhone and I will see you soon....... creeeeeeeeeeeepy!

 

Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtt0MqG0lQY

Ok - I drive an Audi A4 now and I've owned a bunch of BMW 3 series.  All I want in a car's entertainment is a way to play my playlists from my iPhone 5s.  Is that so hard for you to understand?  I have picked up 3 BMWs at the factory in Munich and I planned to do the same for a new A4 at the Audi factory in Ingolstadt.  That plan is now on hold as I seriously look at what Audi thinks it is doing ....  I do not want an android controlling my car or my music.  Period.  I owned a Droid phone for 2 weeks and I gave it away.... while waiting for Verizon to get an iPhone as that was my only carrier at home and iPhones were only AT&T then.  

Audi screwed up and I look forward to seeing what BMW can do to fill the void .... 

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Key thing which few people seem to focus on: the Audi tablet is what one would call "MIL-spec", i.e. designed to operate properly after having been left in the car on a cold Minnesota/Siberia winter night and continuing to work after having left baking inside the car in the desert sun in Death Valley. 

 

There are engineering tradeoffs for that kind of operating range.  I'd rather have an in car wireless infrastructure and bring my phone or tablet with me.

 

A dedicated tablet is kinda dumb though if you expect to keep your car a reasonable amount of time.  I've gone through 4 iphone models since I last bought a car, each one getting more powerful.

 

Good luck with your mil-spec tablet unless you trade in every couple years.  The less installed electronics in the car itself the better these days given we all carry a supercomputer in our pockets these days.

 

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/05/10/ipad.2.benches.as.fast.as.cray.2.from.1985/

 

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VW is a company. Brands OWNED by that company are: VW, 

 

So essentially you're agreeing with him.  The BMW brand is better than the VW brand.

 

With respect to the Phaeton:  €28,100 loss per vehicle.  VW has two of the biggest losers in that list.  The Bugatti Veyron is there too.  Yah, if you're willing to sell a car below value some folks would love it.  Even so, sales are lackluster.

 

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/09/daily-chart-18

 

"The Phaeton has never met the company’s original sales target of 20,000 vehicles annually. The model, which came on the market in 2002, cost more than 1 billion euros to produce. VW produced 7,500 Phaetons last year, the carmaker said Jan. 25."

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-28/vw-may-return-92-360-phaeton-scirocco-coupe-to-u-s-to-challenge-toyota.html

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Ok - I drive an Audi A4 now and I've owned a bunch of BMW 3 series. 

 

Given you were willing to buy another A4 before this your experience was far better than mine.  I enjoyed my A4 when it was working but boy was it a hanger queen.  It was in for service a lot.  That was a few years ago though.

 

Still it really soured me on the brand.

 

I do agree with the sentiment that whatever car I buy better work seamlessly with whatever phone I'm using whether that's an iPhone or something else.  I almost got my wife the Nokia for the better camera but the iPhone 5S was good enough camera wise to stay iPhone this go around.

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I've done some work on automotive software. Although I'd prefer iOS, I'd also take Android over the crap that the manufacturers (or their suppliers) come up with themselves. I actually think that Windows Phone could work quite well too as apps aren't the big selling point.

 

All of these 'smart' systems still run two operating systems though. You need your lights working as soon as you turn the key and none of the mobile operating systems boot instantly. Malware is never going to affect the running of your vehicle.

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This is the logical consequence of Apple being too closed.
Does anyone think the car companies want to be owned by Apple like the mobile carriers or the record labels are?
Does anyone wonder why the rumored AppleTV still isn't a real product?
It's all the same: just like Microsoft in the past, Apple doesn't enter into real partnerships, but aims to make any partner the underdog and dictate to them the terms.
When you start your Audi, Audi wants you to see an Audi logo, not an Apple logo; they want Apple to show up somewhere in the Settings>About>Copyright section; Apple wants the user to think of the car as a four wheeled iPhone peripheral.
Needless to say these two points of view are not compatible.
A lesser car company than VW, say BMW who had declining Quality and has a sinking brand image (within it's market segment) may try to ride Apple's coat tail back to being hip again, but that may work as well for them as it does for AT&T.
The way this needs to be solved is like ODB-II: an open industry spec protocol and a VESA-mount like standard for the in vehicle mount, and then the consumer has a choice of hardware and software; Apple's devices and apps being one of them, Apple's devices and third party apps being another; Android, Win8, Ubuntu, etc. being yet other choices of operating system with various software.
Consumers have to stand up again for open standards; it's the only thing that provides choice and competition.
I'd surely prefer an iOS device over some droid thing; but I don't want my car being married to any platform, I want value and features driven by competition, not high prices and complacency fueled by strategic alliances and lack of choice.
Just compare old typewriter cloth ink ribbons (universal) to ink jet printer cartridges (designed for lock in and high-price policies), or standard razor blades vs. New-style multi-blade cartridges, etc.
It's a massive trend to create non-standard products to castrate free market forces by decommoditzing commodities such as to be able to take away control from consumers.

 

It's not what Audi wants you to see, it's what Google wants you to see that's the problem.

 

F*ck having an ad supported car!

 

Google aren't a charity they'll want to monetise.

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One thing I learned in collage is,..

 

Was it an art college?

 

I learned collage in Art classes and spelling in English classes, all before high school prior to University.

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And if you are refurring to Oracle I believe if i'm not mistaken that Google won that case.

 

The case that is still undergoing the appeals process and is by no means "won" by Google yet.

 

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

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wow!! the droid dorks are really coming to their lame ass OS's defense , huh.

 

poor fools

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Anyone that says they will not buy an Audi now is being ridiculous.  And I wouldn't be surprised to see many more companies join the OAA in the near future.  There is basically nothing for them to lose by joining and gaining additional functionality for their products.  I understand that a super small number of very passionate apple fans will not buy their cars now but I think it's fair to assume that this is a tiny sliver of their entire customer base.     

 

Also While some will make ridiculous comments about malware and updates let me precede them.  Firstly, updates on this device/system will almost certainly come directly from the manufacture once the initial software is provided.  As with Amazon and the Kindle Fire, this will be a forked version that wont require updates from google to function.  Additionally as all the cars will be manufactured by the same company in this case Audi they would obviously roll out updates to every car at once eliminating the idea of fragmentation.

 

And while many people here discuss android malware as if its a huge problem, I have yet to see any major issues with this at all.  In the wild I have yet to see any, and I have yet to see large cases.  Its most likely being extremely overestimated by people who want android to fail (it isn't).

Android is by far the largest OS in terms of world market share, it isn't going away.  Companies would be stupid to ignore it.  When your product has world market well above 75% anyone ignoring this is being dumb.  Many more people have android phones and companies like GM, Honda, Audi, Etc know this.  Working with a company that has 10-20% market share world wide and ignore the company with 75% market share would be counterproductive to the extreme.

 

Get over yourself, this isn't a phone its basically your cars radio and a tablet.  Everything doesn't need to be a crazy flame war.

 

Android is moving into many new things (TVs,Appliances,Cars, ETC) it has little to do with which phone you like.  Buy all the apple phones/tablets you can afford, but at the end of the day not buying a fridge or car because it uses android is absurd.  This will not impact the drive, gas mileage, looks, or basically anything else out side adding a tablet to the car.  This has a minor impact in real world experience and I would guess that most car shoppers would find it interesting to get a free in car tablet.  They probably have no idea or interest in what OS it runs on.

 

And as stated above, Audi is owned by VW so with this OAA announcement its a fair guess that the 12 brands VW owns and the 4 brands GM own plus the others will all run android.  Soon almost every new car will probably come with this type of system.

 

Really ignorant statement.  I know a TON of people (including myself) that will not buy a car if it does not have iPhone integration. PERIOD.

 

You say updates/malware won't be a problem.  Do you really think Audi has the resources to update the OS property?  Friken Google has a hard time keeping Android up to date and you think a FRIKEN car company can do a better job?  Google only updates devices younger than 2 years.  What incentive does Audi have to update past 2 years?  IMO it would be a selling point to buy a NEW audi when the OS stops updating.  Like phone carriers it is in Audi's best interest to NOT UPDATE the software after 2 years.

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Ok, let's think this logically:  car manufacturers really don't lose anything by join the Android OAA.  It is also likely that each will customize the hell out of the UI to differentiate themselves.  Google will collect valuable data on user driving habits, and I'm sure there will be lawsuits for drivers who are not aware that Google was tracking them.  Google really don't care about fragmentation as long as it can collect data.

 

On the other hand, Apple is all about user experience.  So the only way to maintain a consistent experience, Apple will have to buy BMW.  BMW's market cap is only 55bn


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I've done some work on automotive software. Although I'd prefer iOS, I'd also take Android over the crap that the manufacturers (or their suppliers) come up with themselves. I actually think that Windows Phone could work quite well too as apps aren't the big selling point.

All of these 'smart' systems still run two operating systems though. You need your lights working as soon as you turn the key and none of the mobile operating systems boot instantly. Malware is never going to affect the running of your vehicle.

The infamous Ford Edsel had a transmission where the gears were changed by electronic push buttons in the center of the steering wheel...

If your battery was dead, you couldn't shift the car out of park so you could push it to get it started.

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But, but, but...  your hero said "stealing", not "inspired".

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Really ignorant statement.  I know a TON of people (including myself) that will not buy a car if it does not have iPhone integration. PERIOD.

 

You say updates/malware won't be a problem.  Do you really think Audi has the resources to update the OS property?  Friken Google has a hard time keeping Android up to date and you think a FRIKEN car company can do a better job?  Google only updates devices younger than 2 years.  What incentive does Audi have to update past 2 years?  IMO it would be a selling point to buy a NEW audi when the OS stops updating.  Like phone carriers it is in Audi's best interest to NOT UPDATE the software after 2 years.

Firstly your anecdote is not evidence and is not compelling in the least. 

Secondly Audi doesn't need to update the OS regularly, this is a car not a phone.  Users aren't going to be clamoring for new features.  The OS can remain unchanged for years on end with little to no demand to "update my radio's OS AUDI!"  This is basically a radio and a few other features like navigation.  There should be no requirement for regular updates at all.

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But, but, but...  your hero said "stealing", not "inspired".

You do know the quote comes from Picasso, right? Steve Jobs usage is based on that direct attribution. Now do you think Picasso's works are stolen from others or do you think you need to look at the meaning of the words and not isolate an individual word from Picasso to create your case against everything Apple has ever done?


PS: There's a much bigger world out there than the shadows on the cave wall you've spent your life looking at.

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That infotainment system of Lamborghini looks fugly.
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I did Check my facts, no lies. First your article doesn't exist (tried the link) second here is the real story "facts" http://m.slashdot.org/story/188347

And by the way, I was at Blackhat because I am in the security business. No need for animosity, we're just having a discussion. Read the article. Withe regards to jail broken iPhones, I don't doubt the same problem exist because it becomes open source just like Android.

Peace.

Although there is less malware for iOS than Android, Android made big advancements in malware security over the last year. With the introduction of SELinux in Android 4.2 malware infections get isolated and thus are pretty much useless\harmless as it is sandboxed and a 7 layer security system is in place. In 4.3 it changed to a MAC or mandatory access control. And in 4.4 its setup was changed to enforced by default meaning apps can't disable SELinux.

Remember iOS isn't free from security exploits and malware itself (no software will ever be). For example it is possible via a man-in-the-middle attack (via WiFi) to change the http information certain iOS apps (those who don't use https) receive and this way either falsify information that seems to come from a legit source or send malware. Once the attack has taken place even if you are not connected with that Wifi signal it can keep in control of the data displayed (whether on another WiFi network or mobile data doesn't matter anymore).
This security hole was detailed at a RSA security conference in the Netherlands but didn't get that much attention from mainstream news sites as far as I know. The exploit still hasn't been fixed.

The latter is just to show you that iOS isn't airtight either.
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Man I've read your posts until here and I must say I now consider you quite spineless.
No matter what you say I imagine you lie in a sofa goin' 'yeah! So whaaaaat! Android! Google! Yeah!' - all day.
Then - 'how do I put this into clever clueless words and bring it across to the common public in order to get my paycheck or personal satisfaction.
Well, you won't convince me.
Glad I don't have to live close to you.

Good day.

Wow, well based off such a small data set you much have an incredible ability to analyse personality types.  And you didn't even need evidence to support your claim!  This is truly impressive, based on a few posts (many of which were direct responses to another post) you can determine what I'm like in real life.  

 

I would think with such an amazing talent you wouldn't waste your time here, go publish your incredible technique and revolutionize modern psychoanalysis.

 

I can tell based on the feeble logic and Ad Hominem attack that you're not someone I would want to have a discussion with.  I unlike most people here apparently was attempting to limit the hyperbole and over the top alarmist knee jerk responses and have a discussion based on facts.

 

I'm glad that you can "imagine" me doing something.  You don't know me, and you have based this entire assessment on a few posts that contain no insights into my personality in general.  This is completely absurd and your lack of evidence and use of ad hominem attack is telling.

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 There should be no requirement for regular updates at all.
Updates to maintain compatibility with newer phones would be likely and desirable. Don't want your $200 phone outpacing your $40000 car.

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Updates to maintain compatibility with newer phones would be likely and desirable. Don't want your $200 phone outpacing your $40000 car.

You don't need an update to do this unless you use a none standardized method for pairing.  If its Bluetooth or a physical cable (presumably one of these) it should be compatible for the foreseeable future with no update.

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Wow, well based off such a small data set you much have an incredible ability to analyse personality types.  And you didn't even need evidence to support your claim!  This is truly impressive, based on a few posts (many of which were direct responses to another post) you can determine what I'm like in real life.  

I would think with such an amazing talent you wouldn't waste your time here, go publish your incredible technique and revolutionize modern psychoanalysis.

I can tell based on the feeble logic and Ad Hominem attack that you're not someone I would want to have a discussion with.  I unlike most people here apparently was attempting to limit the hyperbole and over the top alarmist knee jerk responses and have a discussion based on facts.

I'm glad that you can "imagine" me doing something.  You don't know me, and you have based this entire assessment on a few posts that contain no insights into my personality in general.  This is completely absurd and your lack of evidence and use of ad hominem attack is telling.

Yup. And I got no problem with what you just had to say. Luckily.
As I said, good day. 1smile.gif
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Yup. And I got no problem with what you just had to say. Luckily.
As I said, good day. 1smile.gif

Luckily? what does that even mean?  If I wasn't so lucky you might have really let me have it via text response.  

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Although there is less malware for iOS than Android, Android made big advancements in malware security over the last year. With the introduction of SELinux in Android 4.2 malware infections get isolated and thus are pretty much useless\harmless as it is sandboxed and a 7 layer security system is in place. In 4.3 it changed to a MAC or mandatory access control. And in 4.4 its setup was changed to enforced by default meaning apps can't disable SELinux.

Remember iOS isn't free from security exploits and malware itself (no software will ever be). For example it is possible via a man-in-the-middle attack (via WiFi) to change the http information certain iOS apps (those who don't use https) receive and this way either falsify information that seems to come from a legit source or send malware. Once the attack has taken place even if you are not connected with that Wifi signal it can keep in control of the data displayed (whether on another WiFi network or mobile data doesn't matter anymore).
This security hole was detailed at a RSA security conference in the Netherlands but didn't get that much attention from mainstream news sites as far as I know. The exploit still hasn't been fixed.

The latter is just to show you that iOS isn't airtight either.

First intelligent reply on this thread I've read since yesterday. I agree with you, I do know there are vulnerabilities that exist in iOS. Never thought it was 100% safe. I've maintained the notion that if it was invented by a human, it can be hacked by another because nothing is ever perfect. Thanks for your thoughtful and well written post.

Peace
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Luckily? what does that even mean?  If I wasn't so lucky you might have really let me have it via text response.  

Nope. Got no time for that. And we said, we don't wanna have discussions with each other.
So be it. I assume you got a sofa, so enjoy that. There's people who have none.
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Was it an art college?

I learned collage in Art classes and spelling in English classes, all before high school prior to University.

I had this nice long insulting reply to you, but then I realized that you probably wrote this while waiting for the short bus to take you to school. So, I decided to be kind instead. 1wink.gif
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Absolute nonsense. You’ve obviously never driven a VW v. an Audi v. a Porsche. Likely not even stepped into one.

Why the hostility? I'm actually a big VW and Porsche fan, I currently own a 2013 Golf R and have driven several Porsches including a classic 914, 944 Cabriolet, 944 Turbo, and a 911 Turbo.

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Why the hostility? I'm actually a big VW and Porsche fan, I currently own a 2013 Golf R and have driven several Porsches including a classic 914, 944 Cabriolet, 944 Turbo, and a 911 Turbo.

Then you surely know that the electronics and the media interface are completely different among these brands? (Members of my family own or have owned various models all three brands).

 

Didn’t mean to come through as hostile (but upon re-reading, I can see why you think so). Apologies.

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My next decision: Sell the Audi A5 S-Line, don't buy a new one 2014 - shift to BMW. So sad, for years I bought Audi until this crazy move. No thank's!
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As a BMW enthusiast, I hope you stay with Audi.
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Congrats Audi, you're now looking more and more like Kias.
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...probably wrote this while waiting for the short bus...

 

Would that be the one with the collage of food scraps on the window, painted with your tongue?

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Would that be the one with the collage of food scraps on the window, painted with your tongue?

No, it's the one you were born in when you got dropped on your head. I am thinking that the best of you dripped down your mama's leg.

Don't forget you started this by feeling the need to criticize others. It's often a sign reflecting who you truly are.

Your turn.
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Last time I said this, I got accused of posting politics in here, but I'll say it again anyway. There is a lot of bigotry in here, I guess it's the pack mentality/peer group thing, along with Internet anonymity. That said, you could replace "Audi" and "Android" in this thread with "Obama" and "liberals," and it would look a lot like the nonsense I see sometimes on Facebook or hear in sound bites from Fox News.

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Last time I said this, I got accused of posting politics in here, but I'll say it again anyway. There is a lot of bigotry in here, I guess it's the pack mentality/peer group thing, along with Internet anonymity. That said, you could replace "Audi" and "Android" in this thread with "Obama" and "liberals," and it would look a lot like the nonsense I see sometimes on Facebook or hear in sound bites from Fox News.

People have preferences with politics, TV shows, automobiles, OSes, etc. but why turn it into a one-sided political argument? Even if your analogy required converting to politics (although I don't see what relevance it has) you could make yourself sound more objective and balanced by writing " That said, you could replace Audi and Android in this thread with Obama or Bush and liberals or republicans" instead of simply writing "That said, you could replace Audi and Android in this thread with Obama and liberals."

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I am thinking that the best of you dripped down your mama's leg.

Good thing it wasn't yo' mama, as base jumping is illegal.
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Never heard a "yo mamma's so tall" joke before.

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