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Wasn't the last time Microsoft did a CES keynote when Ballmer wore a red sweater, held up a HP tablet (that never came to market) to his chest and tried to demonstrate it by looking at it upside down and poking at the screen like it was going to so something. Meanwhile, all the Windows computers behind him and around him on the stage went blue screen and had to be manually reset one-by-one.

It was only a few months later Steve Jobs declared the era to be Post PC... In a few more months Microsoft will be post-Ballmer. Imagine what the new CEO will have to deal with: (1) Ballmer and Gates on the board of directors. (2) MS just talking on the cell phone purchase under Ballmer's own hand. (3) The entire Microsoft organization under a new structure by Ballmer's own hand. (4) new XBox running second-place in the console wars (and not even branded with the MS name on the cartons). (5) Bing bleeding like a stuck whale. (6) Cash cows, Windows and Office, under pressure for the first time in decades. (7) Surface, redux, not eating up the market and buyers poking at it suspiciously with sticks, like it might came back alive and attack them.

Now, in that context, the new CEO is expected to change anything for the better with Bill and Steve having a good giggle from their position on the board, and thumbing everything down that may diminish Baller's recent massive changes. I give the new puppet CEO a year or so before he's out the door.

 

I saw a commercial from Microsoft the other day, highlighting the line of products that all run Windows 8, banging on about the Nokia phone with 41MP camera (I think it's 41) etc. and I just didn't have any reaction whatsoever.  Even when I switched to Macs in 2005, I still had some reaction to what Microsoft were doing, either intrigue, dislike, or, in the case of Xbox360 being impressed, but in the past couple of years I have literally no reaction to them anymore.  To me what they are doing just doesn't seem important at all now.  Even the rubbish stuff they do now doesn't make me laugh like the Kin did.

 

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But Business Insider claims Apple is doomed because everyone they saw at CES was using an Android phone.

 

It's not that much of a shock that the sort of person who would go to a consumer electronics expo is the sort of person for whom "customization" is important.  These technology die hards are the type of people who want to install new skins on phones and things like that.

 

However, the vast majority of people couldn't give a shit about the CES.  They'll buy products that "just work".

post #42 of 48
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


Regular PCs run Windows. Windows is made by Microsoft. Microsoft was sued for monopolistic practices. Microsoft is required by law to provide alternatives to its software.

If Google ever magically (because it WILL NOT happen) gets 90% marketshare with one of its OS’, that also does not immediately mean they will be forced to offer alternatives; it means that the precedent set by Microsoft in the same situation would expedite Google’s guilty ruling.

Thank everyone who replied to my question. I guess Microsoft must be able to get the decision voided now as their share of the market must have fallen below the 90% share required for the monopoly, especially as Google claim 20% of new pc's are Chromebooks.
post #43 of 48
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Thank everyone who replied to my question. I guess Microsoft must be able to get the decision voided now as their share of the market must have fallen below the 90% share required for the monopoly, especially as Google claim 20% of new pc's are Chromebooks.

Good point. It can't be long before Microsoft is as relevant as a Wang WP.
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post #44 of 48
Originally Posted by Crosslad View Post
I guess Microsoft must be able to get the decision voided now as their share of the market must have fallen below the 90% share required for the monopoly

 

Oh, monopolistic practices aren’t dependent solely on marketshare, but when Windows plummets to 40% by 2020 they might be allowed to stop the forcible offering of other browsers.

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post #45 of 48
All these comments about MACS not being able to do real work: Macs and IDevices integrate Arts and Science and do fun things not boring stuff like Windows boxes. Windows apps are mostly buggy, suffer from feature bloat and basically crappy, they make it hard to be creative by getting in the way of the Artist.

Why would anyone want to do real work anyhow? Real work means making some one else rich. All they are doing is making the 0.1% richer anyways. Why the frack would I want to sit with an excel spreadsheet and Word docs trying to figure out all the idiot unintuitive ways to fill out a cell or format a paragraph hour after hour -
Jeez the LAST thing I want to do is spend my valuable life stuck behind a Windows box ruining my eyes, and contorting my body out of shape and for what> - a miserable 100K and I only see half of it after tax and then some nerd wants me to shell out $1100.-- and $90 per year for MS office subscription on a surface pro and it weighs ton - NO THANKS
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Originally Posted by Paul94544 View Post

Why would anyone want to do real work anyhow? 

 

Because they have real bills to pay. :rolleyes:

post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Wrap-up: The post-PC era is officially here and CES proves it

 

"Proves" it? Why does it need to be proven? At some point it'll either be self-evident or it won't. Does it even matter? Is there some inherent benefit to a post-PC world?

 

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more interesting for me was that CES was a manifestation of a five-year-old prediction coming true.

 

I say this respectfully and without malice: I don't really care what you think. You are at the event to be the eyes and ears of the readers. I don't need you to form my opinions for me. Please just tell us what you saw.

 

Further, while I'm sure that you're really quite clever and that those who know you are quite excited that your prediction that Steve Jobs' predictions would come true is coming true, AI readers aren't your buddies and don't really care. Self-congratulatory material is probably better suited to your blog or Twitter.

 

Thanks for the deets on all the interesting stuff! Your descriptions were interesting and informative!


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post #48 of 48
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

But you'll look strange, trying to take a picture or a movie with a MacBook or an iMac.

 

What looks worse -- someone shooting video with a laptop computer or a mostly black screen with a skinny vertical video in the middle? ;)

 

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However, the vast majority of people couldn't give a shit about the CES.  They'll buy products that "just work".

 

The problem is that there is no brand with a lock on that anymore, so those of us who never used to bother with considering alternatives now are because the tried-and-true is letting us down as often as not.

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