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The next flagship smartphone from South Korean manufacturer Samsung will reportedly be offered in two versions -- a metal-clad premium edition and a cheaper model sporting a plastic case.

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The news comes one week after Samsung mobile executive Lee Young Hee said that the company would be going "back to the basics" with the industrial design of their bellwether device in an effort to excite customers that Samsung believes were disappointed with the similarities between the Galaxy S3 and S4. Normally-reliable Samsung watchers SamMobile were the first to report the split.

If true, the move would mirror Apple's decision to drop its longstanding practice of discounting the previous year's model in favor of a new, bifurcated lineup. With the introduction of the iPhone 5s, Apple discontinued the iPhone 5 in favor of an all-new iPhone 5c featuring a polycarbonate shell in a variety of colors.

Samsung is also considering adding biometric authentication capabilities to the handset in order to counter Apple's popular Touch ID feature. Lee said last week that "many people are fanatical about iris recognition technology" and that Samsung was "studying the possibility" of including it in the Galaxy S5.

As for pricing, the premium version is expected to retail for ?800 ($1,093) while the plastic-backed variant should fetch ?650 ($889) when the devices are unveiled this spring, according to the report. Apple's iPhone 5s, in comparison, starts at ?699 ($955) for a model with 16 gigabytes of memory and the iPhone 5c comes in at ?599 ($819) for the same configuration.
post #2 of 148

Don't want to sound too cynical, "but what a surprise!"

 

Best.

post #3 of 148
Amazing. This is just embarrassing.
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Introducing the Shamesung C5
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Samsung is always innovating. Slash S.

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post #6 of 148
Well, why not? What else are you going to do?
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Amazing. This is just embarrassing.

More like shameless. It's mind boggling how this is the only other company that's profitable.
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Well, why not? What else are you going to do?

Not do the same exact thing for starters.
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post #9 of 148
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Well, why not? What else are you going to do?
Something else. Anything that doesn't scream "shamless".
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Samsung is always innovating. Slash S.
No! It's just natural progression. Who cares if Apple did it first?

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Do I really need to put S tags around this?
post #11 of 148

Samsung got it all wrong.  People are buying alternatives to Apple's premium brand.  Metals do not sell in Android ecosystem.  Just look at HTC.

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It must be what the people want... The irony is those that take pride in not owning an apple product, buy from the company trying so hard to be apple. 1hmm.gif
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Who would have guessed? L'innovation grande à la copie takes another giant step. 

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post #14 of 148

Truly sad and why I will never, ever own a Samsung product in my life. NEVER.

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Because it will be made out of metal doesn't mean it will be a sturdy phone. Because the iPhone 5C is made out of plastic it doesn't mean that it is a cracking, weak phone.

It's more about the company... Samsung will make an paper thin metal casing, and they will never mind to require less than 150€ premium for that. Or just put on a metal backplate instead of plastic.
By the way there will be probably no hardware difference between the two (excluding buttons, minor variation in thickness Etc. Etc. ) that 150€ just for that metal.
post #16 of 148
Fxxking hate Samsung!
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I have to give credit to Samsung, they follow Apple's successful marketing ideas, regardless of how much their own diehard fans howl and spew degradation about those ideas when they are first posited by Apple. 

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Truly sad and why I will never, ever own a Samsung product in my life. NEVER.

AZREO, I've an old SS laser copier that just keeps chugging along, never fails.

Wish I knew who to thank for the great design.

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It must be what the people want... The irony is those that take pride in not owning an apple product, buy from the company trying so hard to be apple. 1hmm.gif

I used to work with a guy who said he wasn't an "Apple person," so he bought one of the first post-iPad Samsung tablets, that looked almost exactly like an iPad. I think it was due to a Samsung allegiance stemming from his Korean origins, but it still seemed pretty weird. 

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Well, why not? What else are you going to do?

Easy enough... innovate.

 

That's why it took AAPL many years to come up with the iPhone in the first place. They don't want to make the iPhone "useful" ... they wanted to iPhone to make a statement (one of the 3 things that changed the world over the last 10 years). Does anyone here think AAPL asked itself "So what are we gonna do?" when they looked at the farmland of phones in 2005, 2 years before they announced... Nope... they said "we're going to reinvent the phone" ... Shamedung only asks "what else can we cram into a phone?" ... usually the answer is... "Check what AAPL does..."

post #21 of 148
Crikey - dont that have any leaders or designers? Just copy and paste!
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Well, why not? What else are you going to do?

Well, Apple always Thinks up a new idea - There must be a few new ideas left for SameSung.

That's always been the problem with the Eastern countries - their hands have been tied for so long, that they only know how to copy success and don't know how to create success. That's what always made the US intriguing to others back in the day "Freedom of thought and mind"
post #23 of 148
Going back to basics. Copy because we don't really know what the word innovation means. Sammy, do you need a dictionary?
post #24 of 148
Oh boy it's the convergence of design. /s

Sammy just writes these jokes on their own.
post #25 of 148

at least they are consistent

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Easy enough... innovate.

Except it's anything but easy, but that doesn't mean that copy is the next best thing.
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post #27 of 148
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post #28 of 148
This is Samsung's admission of failure: now they think they need a metal phone. And, how is their new Tizen ecosystem coming?
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Now I expect the plastic S5 to be $250 unlocked.

Oh wait, I'm sorry.  Wall Street only expects Apple to slaughter their margins and sell a premium 5C phone for $250

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post #30 of 148
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The news comes one week after Samsung mobile executive Lee Young Hee said that the company would be going "back to the basics" with the industrial design ...

Back to basics. Back to copying Apple.
post #31 of 148
Ah ok, we are calling it "following Apple's lead" now are we?

5S - S5
5C - C5?
post #32 of 148

I'm expecting Samsung to out innovate Apple

 

S5M - metal

S5 - plastic

S5W - wood

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Now I expect the plastic S5 to be $250 unlocked.
Oh wait, I'm sorry.  Wall Street only expects Apple to slaughter their margins and sell a premium 5C phone for $250

Nobody ever said it had to be premium. Motorola was able to make a positively reviewed device that sells for $199 retail which is perfect for those people that use smartphones as glorified feature phones. Many analysts see what Motorola was able to accomplish and ask "why can’t Apple do that?". I'm not suggesting that they do, just pointing out the mindset out there.
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post #34 of 148

honestly, I would have been offended if they didn't copy Apple

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More like shameless. It's mind boggling how this is the only other company that's profitable.


Yes, knowing that several other companies are trying to bring new design both in software and hardware out there. It's just that they can't compete with the gigantic marketing machine of Scamsung.

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I'm expecting Samsung to out innovate Apple

S5M - metal
S5 - plastic
S5W - wood

Metal might be too "premium" for Sammy

S5 plastic
S5C siran wrap + duct tape
post #37 of 148

SAMSUNG - if in doubt copy <----------L A W S U I T ------------ APPLE

Samsung has been suffering slow down in it high end smart phone sales the only ones that have high margins and is under pressure from shareholders  , doesn't take much to figure out so what do they do. nice try Samsung - FAIL AGAIN? Time to buy some more PUTS I think

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post #38 of 148
UN-believable. Wait, no it isn't!
post #39 of 148
I wonder if a move to metal might also be the end of removable batteries and SD cards.. Those are often cited as 2 major advantages over the HTC devices as well as iPhone. (at least by current Samsung owners)

I doubt Samsung will include an iris scanner. Imagine the trouble people that wear glasses might have not to even mention sunglasses. It might also have trouble in the dark. Even if it works and they overcome those obstacles it simply is not nearly as convenient as touching a button that you already touch 100 times a day.

Samsung can't go any larger with the display size. They are already encroaching on Note territory. I doubt we will see an increase in display size which has been their biggest "new" feature for the last few years.

I doubt metal and an iris scanner will boost sales much if any especially given the steep price jump to get the metal version. They better have some more uncovered beyond that to get people to spend that kind of money. Even with a 2 year subsidy that would likely cost $299 or even more. If Apple decides to make a larger iPhone model alongside the current one and also chooses some better colors for the 6c it might not be a very good Christmas in Seoul this year. The 6c would also get the internals of the 5s which very likely will include Touch ID not to mention that A7 processor making it a much more attractive option than the 5c.

Samsung is starting to get squeezed very tight at the bottom with all these cheap Chinese brands. They had been doing well in the high end because Apple was not even sold in many markets like China Mobile or Docomo but that has changed. Apple will continue to expand into more countries and carriers every month reducing areas where Samsung was the only high end option. There last bastion of safety was their display size but that may also fall soon if Apple decides this is the year to introduce their iPhone Air or whatever name they choose for it. Once this last piece of the puzzle falls into place Apple will have a product matrix that should serve them well for at least 5 more years. Samsung is already sold in every country and probably on every carrier in the world so they have far less chance to grow sales or marketshare. Apple is just getting started.
post #40 of 148

This is Old news.  Everyone already knew this was coming on September 20, 2013.

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