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It's kind of stunning that even standing next to the large, flat, thin, glossy, high-res screen of an iMac, that old beige Macintosh with it's cute disk-drive slot looking like a talking grin still steals the show and conveys way more human touch and personality.
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The Commodore Amiga was released in 1985 and was much, much more advanced compared to the Mac. It had pre-emptive multitasking (something that was introduced on MacOS X!), 4096 colors and was a true multi-media computer. Apple was scared shitless when the Amiga was introduced. Their Mac could only do 2 colors and had beep-sounds. The Amiga and its OS kicked ass. The Amiga was much cheaper as well.

One in a dustbin. The other in a museum.

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Did everyone fill out which was their first Mac?
http://www.apple.com/30-years/your-first-mac/

My was the iMac G4 "lamp"

 

My 512k enhanced is surprisingly leading the survey right now. Maybe because the more hardcore users are taking surveys at this point?

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Just shut up and leave.

Don't be so harsh. I think celebrating the 30th anniversary of the failure of Amiga and Commodore are worthy of their own threads. But since they aren't Apple platforms, they're off topic here.

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Apple Mac. The revolution. The rest is history
http://www.mackido.com/History/index.html


It all started at the Department of Defense (Defense Department, USDOD, DOD, DoD or the Pentagon), from where Xerox took ideas, from where Apple took idead to make the real practical revolution: the Mac.

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Apple Mac. The revolution. The rest is history
http://www.mackido.com/History/index.html


It all started at the Department of Defense (Defense Department, USDOD, DOD, DoD or the Pentagon), from where Xerox took ideas, from where Apple took idead to make the real practical revolution: the Mac.

Actually it all started at Bell Labs with the invention of the transistor.

But why would anyone be so graceless as to bring this up at the Mac's birthday party? This goes for dacloo more than you.
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Apple Mac. The revolution. The rest is history
http://www.mackido.com/History/index.html


It all started at the Department of Defense (Defense Department, USDOD, DOD, DoD or the Pentagon), from where Xerox took ideas, from where Apple took idead to make the real practical revolution: the Mac.

Actually...

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post #49 of 78

Mine as well, and i bought it because i fall in love. And i have never heard of Apple before.

I still have it, it runs Maya 6 flawlessly, which my then PC could´n do.

I will take it out of the box this week end, and use Maya again.

 

The most beautiful computer ever!

 

 

I am working, i did the survey on a Windows PC.

Surely many people did the same.


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You're going to have to change your handle to Apple Prismo then ;)

 

I see what you mean, the Apple ][ doesn't qualify, because it's not a Mac. Macs came out in 1984.

 

I never did own an Apple ][ when I was a kid (way too pricey for a kid), but I did use one in school, and it was the first computer that I ever learned on, and got to know well.

 

I liked my Pismo a lot, but I do think that Apple ][ is a lot cooler name than Pismo.

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Actually it all started at Bell Labs with the invention of the transistor.

But why would anyone be so graceless as to bring this up at the Mac's birthday party? This goes for dacloo more than you.

It's like Eric Cartman from South Park: every time he attends someone else's birthday party, he gets a present too, to avoid unpleasantness in public.

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Actually it all started at Bell Labs with the invention of the transistor.

But why would anyone be so graceless as to bring this up at the Mac's birthday party? This goes for dacloo more than you.

 

 

I heard the same argument on the Radio, a few minutes ago, here in Portugal.

I did not hear a Samsung ad, tho.

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Edited by Dick Applebaum - 1/24/14 at 1:54pm
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post #54 of 78
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I kinda hoped they would't do anything like this. First thing Steve Jobs did after his return in 1997 was eliminating the "Mac museum" in the headquarters. Never look back. Moreover, he considered most of their products since 1985 to 1997 total crap (which they obviously were at least in some cases).

Steve did an historical overview mentioning the Mac at the start of one of his most important presentations ever - the iPhone introduction, watch the first minute of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4OEsI0Sc_s

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After it was done, Bill Atkinson gave me a personal demo and then I had about 15 minutes of hands-on time:

Here's the ad -- result of about 18 hours of activity;

Cool story! It's interesting how much they emphasised the mobility aspect, even showing the computer having it's own bag. It's like Apple wanted to change the whole concept of a computer being something in a room that you go to, vs. something you take with you to help with whatever you're doing at the time.

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I kinda hoped they would't do anything like this. First thing Steve Jobs did after his return in 1997 was eliminating the "Mac museum" in the headquarters. Never look back. Moreover, he considered most of their products since 1985 to 1997 total crap (which they obviously were at least in some cases).

Yeah, never look back, yet here you are looking back to Jobs.

But he was right (then). You don't look back when you're just out of the gate. 30 years is something different though.

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Enjoyed the "30 Years…" film. Only I wish they had included a segment on the people creating all of the commercials and other advertising for Microsoft, IBM, Gateway, Dell, and yes; Samsung. All created on Macs.

(always got a chuckle watching a Microsoft commercial and wondering what Mac shop was used to create it)

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Originally Posted by Gustav View Post

 

"...There were a few crappy models, the IIvi, IIvx, PowerBook 190, 5300, and much of the performa line."

 

But not the performa 630 line!  Revolutionary!

 

First Mac with IDE hard drive.

First Mac with CD drive (standard)

First Mac with System disks (+ extras) on CD instead of floppy

First Mac with IR receiver (and an included remote)

First Mac with standard included display that had "built in stereo speakers".

Entire motherboard was designed as a "drawer" with a little pull-handle on the rear face.

The whole inside edge of the motherboard had gold contacts (like a RAM module) that just plugged into a giant slot inside the case when you gave the drawer that little extra push, sliding it in at the end.

 

In mine, I maxed the RAM.

Installed an ethernet card (We had a T1 in my building)

Installed the optional TV tuner card that was for the Performa

 

It was sweet. My PC neighbor came over, and I dropped a solo CD in the tray that had just come out by some chick singer from a band called The Sugar Cubes. The CD player application automatically launched and started playing the CD. I then started skipping tracks by pointing a tiny remote control at my computer.

My PC neighbor was speechless.

 

Edit: Remember this was 1994...

Edit 2: But yeah, those other models you listed were horrible.

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My first Mac was A PowerBook 180c which I believe was the very first colour MacBook
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Cool story! It's interesting how much they emphasised the mobility aspect, even showing the computer having it's own bag. It's like Apple wanted to change the whole concept of a computer being something in a room that you go to, vs. something you take with you to help with whatever you're doing at the time.

Yes, back in the day I remember seeing a picture of a guy who looked like a programmer who had ridden with his Mac Plus on the back of his bike out of the city to do some work. (Can't remember what he used for a power source, though...)

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Yes, back in the day I remember seeing a picture of a guy who looked like a programmer who had ridden with his Mac Plus on the back of his bike out of the city to do some work. (Can't remember what he used for a power source, though...)

A man ahead of his time.

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So I'm curious if your store did 128K to fat mac conversions.  We had a nice little side business in college doing that.  

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So I'm curious if your store did 128K to fat mac conversions.  We had a nice little side business in college doing that.  

Yeah, I think so...

The biggest issue was not to void any warranty...

We were one of the first dealers to do Mac HyperDrive conversions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Computer


We had a pretty close relationship with Apple... One of our part-time employees worked for Apple Service -- so we always had the latest repair procedures, and were allowed to do most repairs in-store/on-site rather than sending the machines to Apple for repair.

Some of our customers were Apple/Tech celebrities, the likes of:

Mike Scott
Regis McKenna (Himself)
John Sculley
Todd Rungren
Charles Schwab, Jr.
Jean-Louis Gassée
Andy Hertzfeld
Bill Atkinson
the rest of the Mac Team
Woz
Cap'n Crunch (John Draper)
Dave Winer


Our Sunnyvale store was at Fremont and Mary -- 7/10 mile from Apple HQ. We were the premiere Apple dealer in the area... Most foreigners or out-of-staters who visited Apple, would swing by the Sunnyvale store to see the latest and greatest stuff for Apple.

It wasn't unusual for these "visitors" to spend $5,000-$10,000 when they came by the store.
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This is misleading, Jef Raskin was the father of the Macintosh, and GUI concepts predated Xerox.  Apple built a new product with a different purpose from Xerox using some of these same concepts and inventing others.  link

Thanks for sharing! New information for me. Shame the article has no sources to back up the story 100% (just a couple of letters) and therefore could be fiction (same as my original assumption), so 'the truth is somewhere out there'.
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This is misleading, Jef Raskin was the father of the Macintosh, and GUI concepts predated Xerox.  Apple built a new product with a different purpose from Xerox using some of these same concepts and inventing others.  link

Thanks for sharing! New information for me. Shame the article has no sources to back up the story 100% (just a couple of letters) and therefore could be fiction (same as my original assumption), so 'the truth is somewhere out there'.

The truth is somewhere out there if you are willing to exert a little effort and surf the web for answers -- and there are several links by people posting comments here...

Just to be clear, links do not necessarily reveal the truth -- it is up to the reader to determine the truth.

DED, a frequent author of AI articles, usually sprinkles them with links supporting his version of the "truth"... If you pay attention, most of the links in a DED article are links to other DED articles...

Links can be used to justify a point of view, promote an agenda, drive clicks (income) as well as sometimes even "reveal the truth".
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He considered them to be total crap because he wasn't there. Don't tell me the SE/30 or the IIci was total crap. The first PowerBooks came out in that period and projected Apple from nowhere to the top notebook seller in a matter of months. There were a few crappy models, the IIvi, IIvx, PowerBook 190, 5300, and much of the performa line.

 

Apple's problem that time was in the decisions the company made, not the engineering of their products.

Well said.  The other guy has no idea what he was talking about.  The SE/30 and Iici are considered the best Macs ever made.  The Iici was on the price list for 4 years.  Steve Jobs' had a few major flops…the G4 Cube and the Flower Power and Dalmatian iMacs were complete failures.

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DED, a frequent author of AI articles, usually sprinkles them with links supporting his version of the "truth"... If you pay attention, most of the links in a DED article are links to other DED articles...

 

One of his latest articles has a few links to AI articles written by "Prince McLean" which is a pseudonym and is also DED.

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I bought a 128k in feb 85 and I remember I had to ask my parents to join the cost :-)
I was just starting to work and I had not enough money to spend......
I did see the 128k in oct 84 in a computer fair in Milan and I was so impressed!!
Steve, I wish u were here with us........
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Steve did an historical overview mentioning the Mac at the start of one of his most important presentations ever - the iPhone introduction, watch the first minute of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4OEsI0Sc_s
never get bored watching that
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One of his latest articles has a few links to AI articles written by "Prince McLean" which is a pseudonym and is also DED.

 

There's a "Slash" pseudonym too, though he doesn't use that one very often.

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A school chum of mine had wealthy parents who bought him the Macintosh IIfx as a high school graduation present.

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First thing Steve Jobs did after his return in 1997 was eliminating the "Mac museum" in the headquarters.

Really? As I understand it, he was the one who approved this (in IL4 I believe):

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post


The heck is wrong with that Apple III? 

“The only thing more insecure than Android is its userbase.” – Can’t Remember

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The heck is wrong with that Apple III? 

Probably remembered as one from the Golden Age.
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The SE/30, IIci, and Color Classic were the best, most expandable Macs until the Cube came along.

 

I'm running OS 8.1 on my SE/30, OS 8.6 on my IIci, and OS 9.1 on my Color Classic :)

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The heck is wrong with that Apple III? 

 

It's the "champagne" colored version.  :lol:

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That timeline is jacked. It leaves out two of my favorite Macs, The Macintosh II fx and the original Mac Pro.

I keep forgetting to get my IIfx on the bench and try to fix it. before the wife takes it to the dump (she really wants to too!).
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The SE/30, IIci, and Color Classic were the best, most expandable Macs until the Cube came along.

I'm running OS 8.1 on my SE/30, OS 8.6 on my IIci, and OS 9.1 on my Color Classic 1smile.gif

The SE/30 was one hell of a machine, that's one I wish I had kept.
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