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The ring comment could just be a more basic, man-on-the-street joke.  If you mention sapphire to a normal human they will think of the precious stone and jewelry.  He could just as well have said necklace or tiara.

 

When I hear iRing, I wince, thinking of the ocular equivalent of a ear ring or nose ring.

I immediately thought of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. Put it on and attain magical powers.

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Wake up at 3:45? Wonder at what time he goes to bed.

3:30

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post #43 of 70
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I had heard about that. I wonder if it can easily be cut to a curved form though.

The sapphire crystals on many timepieces are curved.
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post #44 of 70
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...That is something that definitely should be added, being able to plug in a mouse has all sorts of minor advantages...


...I actually kinda like Microsoft's approach...

 

...I already feel like I'm spamming this thread.

 

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I think it's a shame if they aren't. They're slowly making OSX more iOS-like, so it seems silly to maintain these two disparate operating systems. I hope Google merge ChromeOS and Android as they appear to be doing, and Microsoft sorta merged w8 already but nobody really cares 1smile.gif

I realize that America is in decline as far as people's ability to grasp technical issues but it has been said again and again the two OS's are largely the same. I'm not sure why people have trouble grasping this but for the most part they vary only in the UI and the scheduler. Many of the support libraries are exactly the same.
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Mr. Ballmer, is that you?

I wish! In reality I don't own or use Microsoft products anymore, but the 'dockable' window stuff is a great idea. I'd been arguing for a couple years that Google should be doing the same thing, but they appear to be taking a different approach.

 

I'm what you'd probably call a 'power user' (ie I am an independent IT contractor and use Linux) so for me I need something more than single window on my portable devices. However, I also want the ability to use touch and single window on the same device. Microsoft is the only company doing this.

post #47 of 70

Tim seems like a relatively level headed and easy going person to work for. I have heard that he is also a perfectionist like Steve and will ask some very difficult and complex questions to project managers and he can lose his temper fast if they do not have the answers. But compared to Steve he is a pussycat and also will eat lunch and socialize with regular workers in the cafeteria often which Steve never did. 

 

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post #48 of 70
While Muir was hoping for a break that maybe Cook would disclose some small tidbit of info about future products that was not happening
Cook is a well disciplined individual he won't even be intimidated by Icahn
post #49 of 70

I am very glad that they have no intention of merging iOS and OSX, but I would really like to see a Mac with a touchscreen at some point.  OSX isn't ready yet unfortunately.

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Wake up at 3:45? Wonder at what time he goes to bed.

 



That was my first thought. That is a seriously early morning. My guess is around 9pm. That'd get him close to 7 hours. Still, 3:45am requires a good bit of coffee I'd imagine. That's some serious dedication. Very impressive.

 

When you hit that age, young man or young lady, you will find that it is very hard to stay asleep for 7 hours.

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I am very glad that they have no intention of merging iOS and OSX, but I would really like to see a Mac with a touchscreen at some point.  OSX isn't ready yet unfortunately.

 

Who would want to be continually moving one's hand back and forth between keyboard and screen?  And if you have a 27" screen or larger, how far away is that behind your keyboard?  I'd say quite a reach going from keyboard to screen.

 

The solution for people who like touch gestures is not a touch screen but a touch pad that maps directly to the screen via on-screen real time fingerprint, palm print and handprint animations that indicate exactly what pixels on the monitor map directly to the region you are touching on the track pad.  You can't get more pixel level precision than that with a touch pad.  There, that's in the public domain now, no one can patent that.  My gift to computing.

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Who would want to be continually moving one's hand back and forth between keyboard and screen?  And if you have a 27" screen or larger, how far away is that behind your keyboard?  I'd say quite a reach going from keyboard to screen.

 

The solution for people who like touch gestures is not a touch screen but a touch pad that maps directly to the screen via on-screen real time fingerprint, palm print and handprint animations that indicate exactly what pixels on the monitor map directly to the region you are touching on the track pad.  You can't get more pixel level precision than that with a touch pad.  There, that's in the public domain now, no one can patent that.  My gift to computing.


It's first to file now I think, so thanks for the patent ;)

 

In all seriousness, having used a similar setup the touchpad solution isn't so great. The point of having support for both is that they are appropriate at different times. For example now I am using a keyboard and mouse to type, but being able to just take my screen with me and then use the touchscreen alone, or perhaps dock it to a simple keyboard like the TF101 I mentioned in another post and just use the keyboard (Microsoft's touch covers also probably count here too)

 

It's the flexibility I think more than anything. Ok maybe you're not going to take your 27" monitor anywhere, but a 12-13" tablet/laptop hybrid with an external touchpad + keyboard for 'desktop' use? That's pretty damn attractive.

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Is that true?  Hahahahaha

 

He's been banned here multiple times, just no permanent ban yet.

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As an owner (shareholder), I demand to see what they are developing. I can keep secrets. /s
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The ring comment could just be a more basic, man-on-the-street joke.  If you mention sapphire to a normal human they will think of the precious stone and jewelry. 

Well, thanks a lot! When I hear “Sapphire,” I think of the wife of George “Kingfish” Stevens...
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Wake up at 3:45? Wonder at what time he goes to bed.

Goes to bed when it's dark LOL... ROFL he is a vampire... THAT CAN WALK IN THE DAYLIGHT!!!!!!!!! /facetious...

but seriously , depending on the season you would goto bed when it is dark... more sleep in the winter, less in the summer. but then again he might have a blackout room so it doesn't matter when he goes to sleep...1smoking.gif
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Who would want to be continually moving one's hand back and forth between keyboard and screen?  And if you have a 27" screen or larger, how far away is that behind your keyboard?  I'd say quite a reach going from keyboard to screen.

 

The solution for people who like touch gestures is not a touch screen but a touch pad that maps directly to the screen via on-screen real time fingerprint, palm print and handprint animations that indicate exactly what pixels on the monitor map directly to the region you are touching on the track pad.  You can't get more pixel level precision than that with a touch pad.  There, that's in the public domain now, no one can patent that.  My gift to computing.

 

I don't want the touchscreen to replace the trackpad.  I want to have both because sometimes it's more intuitive to reach out and "touch" the image on screen.

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I think it's a shame if they aren't. They're slowly making OSX more iOS-like, so it seems silly to maintain these two disparate operating systems. I hope Google merge ChromeOS and Android as they appear to be doing, and Microsoft sorta merged w8 already but nobody really cares 1smile.gif

Apple doesn't seem to care about merging them. The reasoning, probably because they care about osx less than ios. They sell far less macs then iPads alone. Macs never really brought them out of the niche category. Remember the original Mac thinking, they didn't allow backwards compatibility with DOS operating system? Because they were forcing the coders to write programs GUI compatible. They probably don't care to bring the old osx much further. Microsoft on the other hand loves windows and is trying to bring jt into the next gen/form factor because it makes them tons of moolah and market share. The problem is that is doesn't really belong in a touch screen world like iOS does.
post #59 of 70

Sapphire sounds great.

And that was a great misdirection on the curved screen! Sammy and LouGie bought into that crapola hook-line-and-stinker!!

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Wake up at 3:45? Wonder at what time he goes to bed.

 

[ insert scene from "Lisa's Pony" where Homer goes to bed for 1 second before the alarm clock goes off and gets back up ]

post #61 of 70
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Apple doesn't seem to care about merging them. The reasoning, probably because they care about osx less than ios. They sell far less macs then iPads alone. Macs never really brought them out of the niche category. Remember the original Mac thinking, they didn't allow backwards compatibility with DOS operating system? Because they were forcing the coders to write programs GUI compatible. They probably don't care to bring the old osx much further. Microsoft on the other hand loves windows and is trying to bring jt into the next gen/form factor because it makes them tons of moolah and market share. The problem is that is doesn't really belong in a touch screen world like iOS does.

 

No, they don't intend to — not that they don't seem to care. If you read the actual MacWorld interview with these guys, they clearly explain their thinking. iOS and OSX are disparate but connected in their vision. They see Mac and OSX as intrinsically important to the future roadmap. Mavericks has a ton of forward-thinking new features with regard to power consumption and so forth, showing that they do care quite a bit.

 

"Microsoft on the other hand..."  — Yeah, we'll see.


Edited by fastasleep - 1/24/14 at 3:03pm
post #62 of 70
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Originally Posted by ItsTheInternet View Post

I think it's a shame if they aren't. They're slowly making OSX more iOS-like, so it seems silly to maintain these two disparate operating systems. I hope Google merge ChromeOS and Android as they appear to be doing, and Microsoft sorta merged w8 already but nobody really cares 1smile.gif

Despite the advances in mobile, the two categories are still miles apart.

Macs/PCs holds 250 GB-2,000 GB of storage. Phones and tablets top out at 128, but are more typically 16-32 gigs.

Macs/PCs evolved with the use of mice and keyboards. Mobile uses touch, accelerometers, etc.

The iPhone uses about 1 watt of power. Macs/PCs draw 10-100 times this (or more). They are still an order of magnitude more powerful (and not a sitting target).

Mobile is compact and meant to be pocketable. They have room for 1 or 2 plugs. Macs and PCs can have a dozen or more I/O ports.
post #63 of 70

The two may be miles apart physically, but both Linux and Darwin run everywhere. It's more a question of user interface than kernel as I see it.

post #64 of 70
The iRing will not be a motion controller, it will be what everyone is expecting from the iWatch. While everyone else is making wrist bands Apple will make something that fits on your finger.

When he said "It's for a ring" they thought he was joking about women's jewellery but he was really telling the truth.
Edited by ascii - 1/24/14 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by acslater017 View Post
Mobile is compact and meant to be pocketable.

 

Ahh… See how the definition has changed! I love it.

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post #66 of 70
Anyone have a length to the full interview? How long was it? Missed it, darn...
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Too bad he doesn't joke about how long it took him to figure out a larger screen and different colors might be good for sales.  Still waiting for a new product to be released since he took over.  

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Too bad he doesn't joke about how long it took him to figure out a larger screen and different colors might be good for sales.  Still waiting for a new product to be released since he took over.  

Do you mean the Mac Pro?
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Originally Posted by tkell31 View Post
Still waiting for a new product to be released since he took over.  

 

Maybe you should stop waiting and pay more attention.

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The sapphire crystals on many timepieces are curved.

 

That's interesting!

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