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Shouldn't the products sell themselves?

 

Seriously?

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They sold 50,000,000 Galaxy S2

100,000,000 Galaxy Note 2, S3

100,000,000 Galaxy Note3, S4

 

it  has been a HUGE success even with a crappy software, OS, and build quality. 

Is your real name Flavor Flav?

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I was going to say exactly the same thing.  I'm worried about this guy having a stroke or something.  Deep breaths.
I'm done responding now. Can't deal with people who are frothing at the mouth and being irrational.
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While I don't agree that this lady is the second coming of Steve Jobs nor do I think Steve was "all knowing" because he certainly got a lot of things wrong and had to be convinced otherwise. In fact, if memory serves, Steve had to be convinced to use the name iPhone and he had some other weird name stuck in his head. But I will agree with you that Apple is late to the game with a larger screen and had they released one sooner their sales would have been far higher assuming they don't price it ridiculously higher. 

 

I am not sure that I buy the excuses Tim gave about not wanting to make any compromises. That seemed a little too much like an excuse after the fact and nothing they could not have overcome if they had wanted to make one. I think going to 4" was a smart move because that allowed them to still satisfy the one handed/small phone crowd. Apple should continue to sell a 4" alongside a larger model as long as it sells well. But I think a larger iPhone released with the 5s would have had a huge impact because Samsung pretty much flopped with their S4. Apple has given Samsung a chance to recover and any people who might have been potential iPhone customers will likely get an S5 if Samsung doesn't screw up again. 

 

I think Tim was far too concerned about how developers would react to 2 new screen sizes and wanted to give them time before releasing a larger one. I think the demand for a larger iPhone is huge. On other Mac sites there is an overwhelming support for a larger display and among people I associate with in the real world I know of no one that would not prefer a larger display. Appleinsider is unique for some reason with a loud chorus of people opposed to a larger display. 

 

agree.

 

Its obvious now the worldwide unit sales for top-end smartphones is about 250,000,000-275,000,000 units a year.

Apple could have easily caputured 75% of that market if they brought out a big phone on time.

 

What boggles my mind is Apple had NO CLUE the market was saturated until now.  Why do I say so?  If they knew the market was saturated they would have released a mid-level phone ($350).  But they didn't.  Either they knew the market was saturated and they didn't give a shet (Arrogant) or they where blindsided by saturation (Clueless).

 

Keep in mind even FRIKEN Samsung warned about saturation 12 months ago.

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You mofos complain too much they make the smallest thinnest fastest phone in the world.Lead the world in sales the only one still selling MP3 players.And make the fastest desktop in the world.Peeps sell body parts and such theives steal iPhone and iPads

 

All great things.

 

But bottom line is:

 

Revenue up only 7% the last year

Profits down 5% the last year

 

And if Apple does not move fast those numbers could quickly get MUCH WORSE.

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Right because old world "royalty" is relevant in 2014, what a bunch of pomp and circumstance.

On the flip side, the Queen actually has iron fist control of Canada for instance, if she wanted to exercise it, so there is some active machinery in the British Monarchy...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_realm

In the United States, citizens are effectively sovereigns by birthright if we defend the right, thanks to those who overthrew the Crown. It's all about property ownership... http://files.meetup.com/515783/Rights%20vs.%20Privileges%20-%20by%20Michael%20Badnarik.pdf

Titles of nobility should be banned in public political office, like the original proposed 13th Amendment proposed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titles_of_Nobility_Amendment

The problem with titles of nobility is people in that system actually believe they hold some level of superiority over others who don't or who are not part of that old-world system. Further, I believe a title of nobility is in conflict with being a citizen of the United States, for instance. Why? Because it is like holding dual citizenships, you can not truly hold allegiance to one country if you are a citizen of multiple.

I don't think either of them are US citizens. Besides the title is an honor just like the Congressional Medal of Freedom.
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This week?  How about the last 18 months!

 

its been FAILURE after FAILURE with Tim Cook.  This was just the last straw this week.  I've tried to give him a fair shake but he's just failed to do anything to move the meter forward.

 

Lets count his failures:

 

1. Failed to make a bigger phone after THREE YEARS of Galaxy success and 250,000,000 Galaxy phones sold

2. Failed to estimate demand for 5C

3. Failed to estimate demand for 5S and 5 (lead to shortages, AGAIN)

4. Allowing Wall Street to announce a dividend and buybacks (use the f'ing money to innovate)

5. Allowing Ichan to shame him in public

6. Allow his stock to get trashed in the media without firing shots back (if you don't think this matters you are clueless, Executive compensation and much of managment compensation is tied to stock options, over 50%!!!!)

7. Failed to debunk obvious LIES and BS leaked by Wall Street Journal and NY Times (Jobs would have chewed there azz)

8. Failed to produce enough units for iPadMini TWO FRIKEN YEARS IN A ROW!

9. Failed to anticipate saturated high end of phones/ipads (should have released a mid-range phone BEFORE saturation)

10. Failed to attack Google with a search product even though Google is CONSTANTLY attacking Apple with hardware products

11. Giving software for FREE and causing revenue to go down $1,000,000,000 every quarter.  Most people dont give a shet about the software.

12. Increasing deferred revenue for who knows why.

13. Being a punching bag

15. Letting long-term stockholders suffer

 

Thanks for sharing your list.  Now I'm sure I don't agree with you.  This is a combination of nonsense, misattribution of "blame," and errors.

 

My suggestion to you is "sell your AAPL shares and invest in a company you believe in."  Clearly Cook can do no right, and he has the complete support of the board, so you're crazy to keep betting on this horse.  You can buy back in when Cook gets fired (as you have no doubt he will).

 

You're welcome.

 

Personally, I've made (on paper) a ton of money on my AAPL investment, and lost a lot (on paper) in recent years.  But frankly there was an AAPL bubble a few years ago and it was unreasonable to expect any company to keep growing at the pace Apple was.  The best analogy I can think of is an NFL team that goes 12-4 and deep into the playoffs one year, 15-1 and wins the Superbowl the next year, and it criticized for only getting 16 regular season wins and a Superbowl the third year.  "Dammit, we were expecting at least 17 regular season wins!  Fire the coach!"

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Thanks for sharing your list.  Now I'm sure I don't agree with you.  This is a combination of nonsense, misattribution of "blame," and errors.

 

My suggestion to you is "sell your AAPL shares and invest in a company you believe in."  Clearly Cook can do no right, and he has the complete support of the board, so you're crazy to keep betting on this horse.  You can buy back in when Cook gets fired (as you have no doubt he will).

 

You're welcome.

 

Personally, I've made (on paper) a ton of money on my AAPL investment, and lost a lot (on paper) in recent years.  But frankly there was an AAPL bubble a few years ago and it was unreasonable to expect any company to keep growing at the pace Apple was.  The best analogy I can think of is an NFL team that goes 12-4 and deep into the playoffs one year, 15-1 and wins the Superbowl the next year, and it criticized for only getting 16 regular season wins and a Superbowl the third year.  "Dammit, we were expecting at least 17 regular season wins!  Fire the coach!"

 

bottom line is revenue is up a pathetic 7% the last 4 quarters

and profit is down 9% the last 4 quarters

 

I agree 75% growth was unsustainable but they should be growing profits at 10-15% a year at least!!!

Even friken McDonalds does that

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Funny thing, it's not just Apple.

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 Boeing Co beat expectations for its fourth quarter profit on Wednesday and pointed to a surge in 2014 commercial aircraft deliveries, but its shares slid in early trade as its conservative profit and cashflow forecasts spooked investors.

The Chicago-based aerospace and defense company said net income in the quarter rose to$1.23 billion, or $1.61 a share, from $978 million, or $1.28 a share, a year earlier. Revenue rose to $23.8 billion from $22.3 billion in the quarter.

Core earnings, which exclude some pension expenses, rose 29 percent to $1.84 billion, or$1.88 a share, compared with $1.46 a share a year earlier.

Analysts had expected core earnings per share of $1.57 for the fourth quarter, and revenue of$22.7 billion, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S.

However, despite the buoyant results, shares in the aerospace giant fell 4.4 percent to $131.00in early trading on the New York Stock Exchange as investors worried about its cautious outlook for the year ahead.

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I'm done responding now. Can't deal with people who are frothing at the mouth and being irrational.

 

You can't deal with the truth.

 

Revenue up only 7% last 4 qtrs.

profits down 9%

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I hope she can go some way to helping stop some of the anti-Apple sentiment many have in the UK. Don't get me wrong there is a massive pro Apple presence and user base of enthusiastic folks but there is a certainly not a pro Apple feeling in many an institution. I think a lot of it dates back to the days when the UK had the BBC micro, Sinclair and so on and there was a definite resistance to Apple ][s. Since those days there was a reluctance to support Macs in preference to Windows and even the BBC were very slow to support Macs in their players. Given Apple's original support for Acorn's ARM development and continued use and now this hiring, things should be a lot brighter in cross-pond relations. Now we just need Doctor Who to use an iPad. 1biggrin.gif
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Seriously?
Yes, seriously. I didn't need Phil Schiller or Jony Ive to sell me an iPad Air. The product sold itself.

Read this: http://www.fastcompany.com/3023591/angela-ahrendts-a-new-season-at-apple
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"I don't want to be sold to when I walk into a store. The job is to be a brilliant brand ambassador. Don't sell! No! Because that's a turn-off. Build an amazing brand experience, and then it will just naturally happen." - Ahrendts

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Selling has always been distasteful to one camp within Apple that believes that the products should sell themselves--and that happy users are the greatest brand ambassadors. A leader of this cohort: designer Jonathan Ive. Even in the store's earliest days, he had some sharp criticisms. "For Jony, they were always selling too hard," says Jeff Zwerner, a former Apple creative director who worked closely with Johnson and the rest of the retail team.
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Funny thing, it's not just Apple.

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 Boeing Co beat expectations for its fourth quarter profit on Wednesday and pointed to a surge in 2014 commercial aircraft deliveries, but its shares slid in early trade as its conservative profit and cashflow forecasts spooked investors.

The Chicago-based aerospace and defense company said net income in the quarter rose to$1.23 billion, or $1.61 a share, from $978 million, or $1.28 a share, a year earlier. Revenue rose to $23.8 billion from $22.3 billion in the quarter.

Core earnings, which exclude some pension expenses, rose 29 percent to $1.84 billion, or$1.88 a share, compared with $1.46 a share a year earlier.

Analysts had expected core earnings per share of $1.57 for the fourth quarter, and revenue of$22.7 billion, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S.

However, despite the buoyant results, shares in the aerospace giant fell 4.4 percent to $131.00in early trading on the New York Stock Exchange as investors worried about its cautious outlook for the year ahead.

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Thats why Apple should NEVER give guidance/forecast anymore.

 

Google gives ZERO guidance.

 

All guidance does is give Wall Street another thing to pick on.

 

Let the current quarter earnings speak for itself.  Apple had a decent earnings report with 5% EPS growth but it was punished because of guidance.  Yet Apple never gets rewarded for 'good' guidance.  Its a no win situation.  Get rid of it.  Just more fuel to Wall Streets fire to manipulate the stock.

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yes i blame Tim because he admitted they estimated wrong the demand for the 5C and 5S.  He thought they were going to sell way more 5C then they did and way less 5S than they did.

if he had any clue he should have KNOWN (like many on this very forum) that at its current price point the 5C would not sell even close to the 5S.  But he didn't.  He had THREE FRIKEN MONTHS to produce enough 5S but he FAILED. 
Using all caps doesn't make your point more valid. It just makes you look like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

You're being totally vacuous. Either address his substantive points, or move along....

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Using all caps doesn't make your point more valid. It just makes you look like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

You're really being totally vacuous. Either address his substantive points, or move along....

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Yes, seriously. I didn't need Phil Schiller or Jony Ive to sell me an iPad Air. The product sold itself.

Read this: http://www.fastcompany.com/3023591/angela-ahrendts-a-new-season-at-apple
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Samsungs recent success proves this false.

 

I'm sorry but there are so many hundreds of millions of idiots in the world who buy stuff when they are marketed well.

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They sold 50,000,000 Galaxy S2

100,000,000 Galaxy Note 2, S3

100,000,000 Galaxy Note3, S4

 

it  has been a HUGE success even with a crappy software, OS, and build quality. 

"Sold" or "sent"? Usually, when we hear about Samsung we only hear about production, not the real sales. Apple give data about their sales.

 

"crappy software, OS, and build quality."... and low price. It's a main key to explain the whatever success of this model and all the Android business. And frankly, I do not wish Apple to go this way. 

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Yes, seriously. I didn't need Phil Schiller or Jony Ive to sell me an iPad Air. The product sold itself.

Read this: http://www.fastcompany.com/3023591/angela-ahrendts-a-new-season-at-apple
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Then why does Apple have advertising?

 

[I see what you are getting at... but first off... Apple has to get them in the store. Then the product should sell itself]


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"Sold" or "sent"? Usually, when we hear about Samsung we only hear about production, not the real sales. Apple give data about their sales.

 

"crappy software, OS, and build quality."... and low price. It's a main key to explain the whatever success of this model and all the Android business. And frankly, I do not wish Apple to go this way. 

 

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

 

Samsung can hide shipped units Qtr by Qtr but not for a THREE YEAR PERIOD.  They sold 250,000,000 top end phones looking at inventory also.

 

Galaxy phones are not cheap.  Many of them like the Note3 cost more than iPhones.  Average Selling price is about $550-$600 for the new models.

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Then why does Apple have advertising?
I'm not saying Apple doesn't need to build and maintain a great brand. They do and I think Ahrendts will be a big asset here. But to me that's different than selling. And Apple's ads over the past 6 months or so seem to be more about the brand than pure selling.
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Yes, seriously. I didn't need Phil Schiller or Jony Ive to sell me an iPad Air. The product sold itself.


Read this: http://www.fastcompany.com/3023591/angela-ahrendts-a-new-season-at-apple

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Then why does Apple have advertising?


There's a difference between marketing and selling.


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You're being totally vacuous. Either address his substantive points, or move along....
I'm not going to engage with someone throwing a temper tantrum. Apple's quarter and even their guidance didn't warrant a $40B sell off IMO. But hey Wall Street is on a downer recently. And just today Yahoo reported results that Wall Street didn't like and their stock is down 7%.
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Even friken McDonalds does that

Worthy of a block.
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You're really being totally vacuous. Either address his substantive points, or move along....

Pay me $400MM and I'll answer them.
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

 

Samsung can hide shipped units Qtr by Qtr but not for a THREE YEAR PERIOD.  They sold 250,000,000 top end phones looking at inventory also.

 

Galaxy phones are not cheap.  Many of them like the Note3 cost more than iPhones.  Average Selling price is about $550-$600 for the new models.

 

You seem very fond of Samsung products. It's really fine for me. But why not let Apple be Apple and Samsung be Samsung? ;)

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I'm not saying Apple doesn't need to build and maintain a great brand. They do and I think Ahrendts will be a big asset here. But to me that's different than selling. And Apple's ads over the past 6 months or so seem to be more about the brand than pure selling.

 

I agree... and was sure to edit my comment before you replied.

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Thanks for sharing your list.  Now I'm sure I don't agree with you.  This is a combination of nonsense, misattribution of "blame," and errors.

 

My suggestion to you is "sell your AAPL shares and invest in a company you believe in."  Clearly Cook can do no right, and he has the complete support of the board, so you're crazy to keep betting on this horse.  You can buy back in when Cook gets fired (as you have no doubt he will).

 

You're welcome.

 

Personally, I've made (on paper) a ton of money on my AAPL investment, and lost a lot (on paper) in recent years.  But frankly there was an AAPL bubble a few years ago and it was unreasonable to expect any company to keep growing at the pace Apple was.  The best analogy I can think of is an NFL team that goes 12-4 and deep into the playoffs one year, 15-1 and wins the Superbowl the next year, and it criticized for only getting 16 regular season wins and a Superbowl the third year.  "Dammit, we were expecting at least 17 regular season wins!  Fire the coach!"

 

I think your analogy is flawed.

 

Reverse the win/loss/Superbowl record for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd years and then maybe you'll be on to something.

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Worthy of a block.
Pay me $400MM and I'll answer them.

 

keep your head in the sand then.

 

Mcdonalds has grown profits 5 of the last 5 quarters.  Apple has been negative 3 or the last 5 and has only grown one of the five because of the buyback.

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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post
You may not agree with sog35, but his points are certainly worthy of discussion (unlike TS's).

 

 

Oh, shut up. “Tim Cook should be fired/supplemented” is “worthy of discussion”? I know you’re not an idiot; you’re better than this nonsense.

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FRIKEN. Is that a Norwegian swear word or something?
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You seem very fond of Samsung products. It's really fine for me. But why not let Apple be Apple and Samsung be Samsung? ;)

 

I hate Samsung with a passion.  But facts are facts.  Samsung has captured about 40% of the top end phone sales the last 2 years.  If Apple made the right moves they should have had 75% of the top end.  Just like they own 75% of the top end tablets right now.

 

Out in the wild I'm seeing more and more Samsung phones.  Last year it was very rare but now they are spreading like wild-fire.  And this is with middle class area in Austin.  This ain't no hick town.

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I have also thought that Apple and more companies should stop offering guidance. Let's see how well the analysts can do their jobs without a cheat sheet. Even with a cheat sheet they ignore it and expect Apple to continue to perform like some small start up growth stock instead of a mature multi-billion dollar company competing in some tough economic times with a growlingly saturated market. I understand that stock prices do not in reality reflect the actual value or performance of a company but the expected future value but Apple does need to do a better job to at least counter some of the lies and complete misrepresentation by analysts. Surely they must have one sharp witted spokesman who could give some interviews and go on some of these financial shows and confront these Apple bashing analysts instead of giving them a free reign. 

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Oh, shut up. “Tim Cook should be fired/supplemented” is “worthy of discussion”? I know you’re not an idiot; you’re better than this nonsense.

 

Profits down 10% the last year.

 

Tim Cook  has been given the best brand in the entire universe and he can't grow earnings?  I'm sorry but the guy is making over a hundred million the last few years. Dude needs to bring results this year or he should be fired or demoted to COO

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

Profits down 10% the last year.

 

For the last four quarters, they’re down 10% from the four before that?

 
Tim Cook  has been given the best brand in the entire universe and he can't grow earnings?

 

Yeah, they sure didn’t recently make a breakthrough in Russia and China or anything.

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I'm not saying Apple doesn't need to build and maintain a great brand. They do and I think Ahrendts will be a big asset here. But to me that's different than selling. And Apple's ads over the past 6 months or so seem to be more about the brand than pure selling.

I agree... and was sure to edit my comment before you replied.

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Yes, seriously. I didn't need Phil Schiller or Jony Ive to sell me an iPad Air. The product sold itself.


Read this: http://www.fastcompany.com/3023591/angela-ahrendts-a-new-season-at-apple

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Then why does Apple have advertising?

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I see what you are getting at... but first off... Apple has to get them in the store. Then the product should sell itself

Right on!

Marketing is what gets them in the store... Selling is getting them to buy what you have in the [wagon] store.

Both activities require attention and skill to be done effectively!
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Oh, shut up. “Tim Cook should be fired/supplemented” is “worthy of discussion”? I know you’re not an idiot; you’re better than this nonsense.

 

To paraphrase Churchill:

 

“Tim Cook is the worst form of CEO, except for all the others.”

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Profits down 10% the last year.

 

Tim Cook  has been given the best brand in the entire universe and he can't grow earnings?  I'm sorry but the guy is making over a hundred million the last few years. Dude needs to bring results this year or he should be fired or demoted to COO

Have you ever considered this might not be all on Tim Cook? For all you know he wanted to implemented several of your ideas but their were technical reasons, maybe supply issues, or something else that prevented him from moving faster with a large display than he would have liked. Apple is also a very slow moving and conservative company. They are rarely bleeding edge when it comes to established products with a few exceptions but when they decide to go for it they bet the farm like they did with the introduction of the iPhone which was a make or break gamble. Like I said before I would have also much preferred a larger iPhone far sooner but I don't think it is too late. People are not all that loyal to phones or even carriers. It is pretty easy to switch between Android and iPhone with lots of ways to sync your contacts. So if Apple releases a larger display there is no reason why all the people who left the platform, wanted to try an iPhone but were waiting for a larger display, and probably a lot of current iPhone customers that are considering leaving won't if Apple releases one this year. If a new iPhone comes out and they still only have a 4" iPhone I will join the chorus with you calling for Tim Cook to resign because I think a lot of very patient iPhone customers will start leaving and giving Android a shot.

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I have also thought that Apple and more companies should stop offering guidance. Let's see how well the analysts can do their jobs without a cheat sheet. Even with a cheat sheet they ignore it and expect Apple to continue to perform like some small start up growth stock instead of a mature multi-billion dollar company competing in some tough economic times with a growlingly saturated market. I understand that stock prices do not in reality reflect the actual value or performance of a company but the expected future value but Apple does need to do a better job to at least counter some of the lies and complete misrepresentation by analysts. Surely they must have one sharp witted spokesman who could give some interviews and go on some of these financial shows and confront these Apple bashing analysts instead of giving them a free reign. 

 

Thats all I ask of Apple also.  Just defend the stock, that is all.  How hard is that?  Really!

 

Watch this video where Cramer explains why Apple stock is so easily manipulated: because Apple won't shoot down LIES and FALSE RUMORS (start video at 1:45)

 

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-12-2009/jim-cramer-extended-interview-pt--2

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Have you ever considered this might not be all on Tim Cook? For all you know he wanted to implemented several of your ideas but their were technical reasons, maybe supply issues, or something else that prevented him from moving faster with a large display than he would have liked. Apple is also a very slow moving and conservative company. They are rarely bleeding edge when it comes to established products with a few exceptions but when they decide to go for it they bet the farm like they did with the introduction of the iPhone which was a make or break gamble. Like I said before I would have also much preferred a larger iPhone far sooner but I don't think it is too late. People are not all that loyal to phones or even carriers. It is pretty easy to switch between Android and iPhone with lots of ways to sync your contacts. So if Apple releases a larger display there is no reason why all the people who left the platform, wanted to try an iPhone but were waiting for a larger display, and probably a lot of current iPhone customers that are considering leaving won't if Apple releases one this year. If a new iPhone comes out and they still only have a 4" iPhone I will join the chorus with you calling for Tim Cook to resign because I think a lot of very patient iPhone customers will start leaving and giving Android a shot.

How big a screen should a phone have?

Would you consider a phone with a screen the size of an iPad Mini?
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Have you ever considered this might not be all on Tim Cook? For all you know he wanted to implemented several of your ideas but their were technical reasons, maybe supply issues, or something else that prevented him from moving faster with a large display than he would have liked. Apple is also a very slow moving and conservative company. They are rarely bleeding edge when it comes to established products with a few exceptions but when they decide to go for it they bet the farm like they did with the introduction of the iPhone which was a make or break gamble. Like I said before I would have also much preferred a larger iPhone far sooner but I don't think it is too late. People are not all that loyal to phones or even carriers. It is pretty easy to switch between Android and iPhone with lots of ways to sync your contacts. So if Apple releases a larger display there is no reason why all the people who left the platform, wanted to try an iPhone but were waiting for a larger display, and probably a lot of current iPhone customers that are considering leaving won't if Apple releases one this year. If a new iPhone comes out and they still only have a 4" iPhone I will join the chorus with you calling for Tim Cook to resign because I think a lot of very patient iPhone customers will start leaving and giving Android a shot.

 

They could make a bigger phone easily.  Even cheap chinese brands have figured out how to make large phones and Apple can't?  Thats plain ridiculous.

 

My whole point is Cook has no vision and no foresight.  He should have been able to see how popular bigger screens are.  It should have not take THREE YEARS to figure it out.  Now Samdung has 40% of the high-end market and the brand has made serious inroads on the iPhone brand.

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