Originally Posted by Arlor
Just want to note that I'm finding your well-reasoned and evidence-based posts interesting and instructive.
Re calories, there was a food science professor at Kansas State who pretty much proved the calories --> weight function beyond a doubt. He lost 27 pounds with good metabolic figures on a calorie-controlled diet consisting of 2/3 junk food (Twinkies, etc.). That's not to say he recommended living on that diet for more than the 2 months he did: he just wanted to make the point crystal clear that the critical variable for weight loss is not what you eat but how much you eat. Link: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.
Appreciate it Arlor. I love the idea of being a vegan, and support those that do. Vegans aren't fat- simply because the foods they eat don't have the calories to get them fat. Unless you had a vegan who only ate avacados and peanuts :D Vegetarians can be fat because they can eat cheese- and usually do- on a massively unhealthy level. Omnivores can be fat because they eat way way too much. But there are plenty of extremely healthy omnivores because they don't over consume. Variety is key. Most humans (incl. vegans) dont process ALA like they should, so they dont get the EPA/DHA blend they need through diet. No scientific reasoning behind this either- some process ALA well, some don't. Luck of the draw. Algae oil isn't even close to as efficiently used in the body as fish oil is for dha/epa. Thats just one example.
Again, I like vegans, and I commend them- because that works for them. But when they push their agenda and think its the "only" way- I just ask them this. Lets pretend we live in a world where everyone in the world can have enough nutrition and calories to sustain a vegan diet. Are you ok with essentially killing an entire species off (cattle)? Because there simply won't be any grazing land left due to the need for crops to be grown.
The dairy cows on the farm I get my dairy live on average over 14 years. And thats without antibiotics! And they produce enough that they can sell to all the Whole Foods in Texas as well as their boutique and market sales. That- is the definition of sustainability on a large scale. We need more of that in the country- and the only way that happens, is through our support.
It conflicts with a vegan's belief- but having a healthy, sustainable ranching and dairy industry is the best thing for the animals themselves.
Edited by Andysol - 2/4/14 at 8:33am