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Boy, is that 'sad'

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This seems pretty normal to me for the Olympics. Promotional Sponsors are gold at these events, so this is expected. Any cell phone maker who sponsored the Olympics would have had similar requests, this one just happens to be Samsung.

 

Granted, Apple probably couldn't have cared less about logos and competitors if they were the sponsor. It's not very Apple-like.

There's a difference between competitive sponsorship or endorsement and passive use.     An athlete should not be allowed, for example, to wear an Apple-logoed jacket for which they are getting paid a fee by Apple or one of Apple's agencies if Apple is not an Olympics sponsor.   But any athlete or attendee should be completely free to use whatever devices and to wear whatever clothes they desire without any restrictions whatsoever without having to hide logos unless they are personally under contract to a particular sponsor.    What's next?   Not permitting cars in the parking lots of Olympic events unless your car is manufactured by a sponsor?

 

If Canon is a sponsor, does that mean that photographers with Nikons or Sonys have to hide those logos?

 

Absurd, ridiculous and another example of how sports organizations have become dictatorships.    The NFL treated people attending the SuperBowl like crap and ripped them off extensively.    IMO, their tax-exempt status should be taken away.    Multi-billion industry and they don't have to pay taxes?   Really?    

 

I remember during the last Olympics how the Olympics Committee went after some local butcher who arranged sausage in his window to look similar to the Olympic rings.    

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This is a non-issue.  You see this all the time on the medal stand when an athlete sponsored by one company (Nike, for instance) covers the logo of the brand that provides official Olympic garb to the national team (Adidas, say).  They'll normally cover up with a flag, since patriotism trumps commercialism, but make no mistake...they aren't going to be caught peddling a competitor's wares in front of billions of people.

 

Funny how all this stuff shakes out. Who has precedence?

Every skier, upon finishing, immediately removes at least one ski and holds it upright. The logo of the ski company is always right at the level of the skier's face, for all the world to see. Must annoy any company that has sponsored the event.

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Gift bags aren't Olympic sponsorship so unless Sam is also paying the IOC (and they may be) I don't see the IOC caring one way or another what a swag donator has to say.

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Funny how all this stuff shakes out. Who has precedence?

Every skier, upon finishing, immediately removes at least one ski and holds it upright. The logo of the ski company is always right at the level of the skier's face, for all the world to see. Must annoy any company that has sponsored the event.

The contortions when they don't even take it off their boot are impressive: very flexible!

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Mac Rumors reports "All accredited competitors, coaches, trainers and officials are required to abide by Rule 40 of the Olympic Charter, preventing athletes from mentioning any non-Olympic sponsor companies. Athletes breaking Rule 40 can be punished with "removal of accreditation and financial penalties" or even total disqualification."

If in fact, Rule 40 is the regulation being used to enforce the Apple logo ban, I would doubt any credible Olympian who might possibly end up on the podium will dare defy this directive. Who'd want to risk disqualification for the sake of making a point?

The key word is "mention". You can use other products but can't mention them.

If I were the athletes I would not use the Note.
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If Canon is a sponsor, does that mean that photographers with Nikons or Sonys have to hide those logos? 
I believe the NFL has this requirement for all on the field photographers. I could be wrong but remember hearing something about this a few years ago.
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The key word is "mention". You can use other products but can't mention them.

If I were the athletes I would not use the Note.

So no bragging about the iPhones in interviews just use them.....

 

Sam giving it a try and getting it blown back in their face to their surprise  because athletes aren't at all independent... :)

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Yes it is cultural - one companies actions defines everyone in the country. Just like all Americans are fat, stupid, greedy, litigious, superficial and racist because there is some American company that embodies that trait.

 

It's good to know we have a company that understands us.

 

God bless "Team America!"

 

"F- Yeah!"

 

post #50 of 152

Samsung appears so desperate with campaigns like this!  

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Reminds me of the 2010 Olympics Canadian Hockey team logo saga. We couldn't use a national logo on our olympic hockey jerseys. LOL

It was stupid.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/2009/08/17/hockey_canada_unveils_olympic_jerseys.html
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Yes it is cultural - one companies actions defines everyone in the country. 

 

 

Or everyone in the country defines, collectively, what is and is not customary/permissible for the institutions and individuals therein. 

 

What is the acceptable, cultural norm for you and me might not be for them, and vice-versa.

 

What we might find completely rude behaviour by the average Chinese (and I've noticed a lot of Westerners find their attitude rather dismissive and rough - and perhaps it's a legitimate reaction to the way *we* are), they might find completely natural. It doesn't immediately imply a value judgment, although that would be the natural (though incorrect) assumption. 

post #53 of 152

I'd just do what other TV shows do like The Big Bang Theory.  They only partially cover the logo.  Put a Mac sticker on it, or an iOS sticker.  Then some athletes should cover the Samsung logo on their garbs...lol.

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It's time to .... BOYCOTT SAMSUNG & GOOGLE!

 

You must be the ultimate absolute DUMMY if you believe you need either to survive!

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post #55 of 152
Scumsung resorting to bribery....shocking!
post #56 of 152
And the Olympic Gold metal goes to Apple.
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Really! Here in the US almost every commercial-break was a Samsung commercial. Don't you remember Galaxy phones being touched together as to pass the Olympic torch? 

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Just put a sticker over the logo that says

 

CENSORED

by

Samsung

Or maybe "Forbidden Fruit".

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Really! I live and work in London and had direct dealings with the Olympics. Samsung sponsoring is news to me, I don't remember seeing any advertising. Maybe I'm Samsung blind.

I went to the same London 2012 Olympics.
I was giving a flag by Samsung promoters with Samsung on one side and the Official Olympic logos on the other side.

I later went to an Olympic event to be told that "I couldn't keep that flag".
I reminded the Olympic Apparatchik that "Samsung is an official Olympic sponsor",
To which he replied "Yes, I know, but they didn't sponsor this particular event so their advertising is forbidden" and then ripped my flag!

So much for respect of property!
But then it would have been a choice between freebie flag and costly seats at the Olympics.
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....the lack of properly optimized apps is one of the reasons "why the experience on Android tablets is so crappy".

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Funny how all this stuff shakes out. Who has precedence?
Every skier, upon finishing, immediately removes at least one ski and holds it upright. The logo of the ski company is always right at the level of the skier's face, for all the world to see. Must annoy any company that has sponsored the event.

Most times the skiers are given that equipment on purpose, and are paid to wear it. Do you think that the Chilean miners all had Oakleys down in the mine they were trapped in? Oakley actually sent them all a pair and paid whoever wore them as they emerged from the mine.
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post #62 of 152
Ha!

I can just visualize the opening parade of athletes...

Thousands of athletes having simultaneous [Janet Jackson] costume malfunctions...

Come to think of it, the Apple Logo is kinda' shaped like a...
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post
Thousands of athletes having simultaneous [Janet Jackson] costume malfunctions...

Come to think of it, the Apple Logo is kinda' shaped like a...

 

Gives new meaning to the phrase, “How do you like them apples”!

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post #64 of 152
This would be something for the Olympic Committee to immediately shut down.
post #65 of 152
Two things. One. It doesn't seem to be the case that Samsung is attempting to enforce any kind of ban. It's more of a soft bribe. Two. All competitors should spread the word, refuse the Galaxy Notes and try to get as many iPhones on display during the opening ceremony as possible. That would be sweeeeeeeeet!
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And three. Why aren't all non-Samsung phones included in this 'cover-up'? Seems that there's only one thing that scares Samsung - Apple! Go figure
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This is pretty much a standard when a company is a sponsor.   TV shows do it all the time.  Soda cans have the labels facing away from the camera if a rival manufacturer is a sponsor of the show/network.

If a company is a sponser then no rivals products can be in the show. If it's just ad time bought, no such rules.

There was a time when paid product placement wasn't allowed in TV shows. Nor could the show have the product visible without the companies okay. It was too expensive in many cases to make fake products so they just hid the trademarks and hoped that kept the companies happy

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Oh yes, because when people see a tall, thin phone with the middle logo covered, no one EVER thinks that it's an iPhone! When I notice products with covered logos in TV shows,etc. it, frankly, raises my awareness. It doesn't lower it.

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Mac Rumors reports "All accredited competitors, coaches, trainers and officials are required to abide by Rule 40 of the Olympic Charter, preventing athletes from mentioning any non-Olympic sponsor companies. Athletes breaking Rule 40 can be punished with "removal of accreditation and financial penalties" or even total disqualification."

If in fact, Rule 40 is the regulation being used to enforce the Apple logo ban, I would doubt any credible Olympian who might possibly end up on the podium will dare defy this directive. Who'd want to risk disqualification for the sake of making a point?

 

Using a device with a visible logo on it is NOT the same as "mentioning" a non-sponsor.

 

Think about it. If that rule is applied to justify this "hide the Apple logo" nonsense, then it must be applied to any and all visible logos of non-sponsor brands. Every. Single. One.  

 

And not just for "devices". Clothing, shoes, hats, computers, phones, bags, wallets, purses, sunglasses, keys, personal hygiene products (put tape over the logo on that hairbrush!!! They're not a sponsor!!), everything and anything you might be seen with. Look around you. Logos are everywhere on almost anything you interact with in daily life. 

 

What a feckin' nightmare imposing this "cover the logo" requirement on the olympic participants.......

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This is pretty much a standard when a company is a sponsor.   TV shows do it all the time.  Soda cans have the labels facing away from the camera if a rival manufacturer is a sponsor of the show/network.
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This is pretty much a standard when a company is a sponsor.   TV shows do it all the time.  Soda cans have the labels facing away from the camera if a rival manufacturer is a sponsor of the show/network.

They are not sponsoring the athletes, only the venue therefore the athletes should tell Samsung to pound sand. I know this event is being held in Russia when an individual's liberties are not high on the priority list but since this is an international event the venue should be considered neutral territory like an embassy and therefore the participants should have the same freedoms afforded in their home country.
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Mac Rumors reports "All accredited competitors, coaches, trainers and officials are required to abide by Rule 40 of the Olympic Charter, preventing athletes from mentioning any non-Olympic sponsor companies. Athletes breaking Rule 40 can be punished with "removal of accreditation and financial penalties" or even total disqualification."

If in fact, Rule 40 is the regulation being used to enforce the Apple logo ban, I would doubt any credible Olympian who might possibly end up on the podium will dare defy this directive. Who'd want to risk disqualification for the sake of making a point?

In this Olympics, it just might be worth it. As if the bad publicity from holding this event in gay hating Russia isn't bad enough press. 

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They are not sponsoring the athletes, only the venue
The athletes won't win much gold if they can't use the venue.

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Reminds me of the 2010 Olympics Canadian Hockey team logo saga. We couldn't use a national logo on our olympic hockey jerseys. LOL

It was stupid.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/2009/08/17/hockey_canada_unveils_olympic_jerseys.html

 

yeah can't use the national symbol, but oh hey, the big Nike Swoosh over the breast is JUST fine!

 

What a transparent, mercenary, money-grubbing outfit the IOC has become, eh.....?

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Did a little check and found that Samsung Galaxy III was the official phone of the London games!

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Mac Rumors reports "All accredited competitors, coaches, trainers and officials are required to abide by Rule 40 of the Olympic Charter, preventing athletes from mentioning any non-Olympic sponsor companies. Athletes breaking Rule 40 can be punished with "removal of accreditation and financial penalties" or even total disqualification."


If in fact, Rule 40 is the regulation being used to enforce the Apple logo ban, I would doubt any credible Olympian who might possibly end up on the podium will dare defy this directive. Who'd want to risk disqualification for the sake of making a point?

Using a device with a visible logo on it is NOT the same as "mentioning" a non-sponsor.

Think about it. If that rule is applied to justify this "hide the Apple logo" nonsense, then it must be applied to any and all visible logos of non-sponsor brands. Every. Single. One.  

And not just for "devices". Clothing, shoes, hats, computers, phones, bags, wallets, purses, sunglasses, keys, personal hygiene products (put tape over the logo on that hairbrush!!! They're not a sponsor!!), everything and anything you might be seen with. Look around you. Logos are everywhere on almost anything you interact with in daily life. 

What a feckin' nightmare imposing this "cover the logo" requirement on the olympic participants.......

"(put tape over the logo on that hairbrush!!! They're not a sponsor!!)"

What if the Tape Manufacturer is not a sponsor???


God forbid there should be any skywriting or graffiti at the Olympics!
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Oh yes, because when people see a tall, thin phone with the middle logo covered, no one EVER thinks that it's an iPhone! When I notice products with covered logos in TV shows,etc. it, frankly, raises my awareness. It doesn't lower it.



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Lately I'm seeing all sorts of Tab 3 giveaways. Apparently they didn't sell well over the holidays... or even now. (No surprise really.)

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Mac Rumors reports "All accredited competitors, coaches, trainers and officials are required to abide by Rule 40 of the Olympic Charter, preventing athletes from mentioning any non-Olympic sponsor companies. Athletes breaking Rule 40 can be punished with "removal of accreditation and financial penalties" or even total disqualification."


If in fact, Rule 40 is the regulation being used to enforce the Apple logo ban, I would doubt any credible Olympian who might possibly end up on the podium will dare defy this directive. Who'd want to risk disqualification for the sake of making a point?
In this Olympics, it just might be worth it. As if the bad publicity from holding this event in gay hating Russia isn't bad enough press. 

Yeah... This year's Olympics are really going to the dogs...
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I suspect that a lot of Olympic Athletes will use an iPhone 5S because of the camera's 120fps slo-mo capability -- an ideal capability for athletic events (and training).
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