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Example?


I was just trying to clarify what the other poster said when s/he said "throughout redesign."

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No, the higher density of the Retina does not address the size issue at all. The Retina display has more pixels, but they don't do me any good from a real-estate point of view. You don't get any more windows or palettes on the screen than you would with a non-Retina 15". The Retina is equivalent to the old 1440 15", just sharper. One can scale it to different resolutions, but that just results in text that's too small to read and blurrier than a non-Retina display.

The bottom line is that a 15" Retina is not a particularly good substitute for a 17" screen. That doesn't mean Apple is bad for discontinuing it, just that it is now a vacant category. It is not filled in with the rMBP.

Well it filled my want for the 17" screen. I guess to each his own then.
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post #123 of 137
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Well it filled my want for the 17" screen. I guess to each his own then.

 

That's obviously excellent news, but I'm confused.

 

A standard 15" MacBook screen is 1440 pixels wide. Let's pick arbitrary sizes for a couple windows; say the main app window is 900 pixels wide and a floating palette is 252. Those two windows occupy 80% of the screen width.

 

Now open the same windows on a Retina MacBook. Its screen is 2880 pixels wide, but it uses twice as many pixels across the width of each window. The main app window is now 1800 pixels wide and the floating palette is 504. Despite the higher resolution, those two windows still occupy exactly 80% of the screen width.

 

Open the same windows on a 17" display with a width of 1920 pixels and those two windows take up only 60% of the screen width, leaving room for more windows.

 

But the main point is still that I want a bigger iPhone! :)


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post #124 of 137
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You did the math, and since I didn't I stand corrected in the sense that I believed I had more room for windows / palettes. Anyhoo, the iPhone. I know from reading the many many posts on this site that many will be happy if they'd release a larger one, preferably the display and not the phone, as far as this is possible.

Would a 4.7" or a 5" get more real estate, or would it simply result in an Android experience; blown up phone apps for a larger screen.

Disclaimer: not that all Android apps are simply blown up on larger phones, I'm sure there are developers making real use of larger displays, but someone else needs to confirm this.

If they release a larger display iPhone I certainly hope the 4" model sticks around as I actually preferred the 3.5" screen model even more than the current one. As little as it has grown, I liked the smaller FF.
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If they release a larger display iPhone I certainly hope the 4" model sticks around as I actually preferred the 3.5" screen model even more than the current one. As little as it has grown, I liked the smaller FF.

 

If I can't have a BIG screen, I too would prefer the 3.5". A screen that's only a little bigger than what they make now doesn't really help and just makes it harder to use.

 

Honestly, I don't know why they don't just offer a voice-capable version of the iPad mini and call it a day!

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Honestly, I don't know why they don't just offer a voice-capable version of the iPad mini and call it a day!

LOL

Yeah those phablets from the competition are looking ridiculously large sometimes.
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post #127 of 137
If apple is really releasing this, they are losing talent or just being greedy, the iPhone 6 is supposed to be a radical design that no one has, I truly believe tim cook is playing stupid or dosent have what it takes to bringing a wow feeling to consumers. That means you bring in a true visionary to take over. steve jobs always talked about how he wished one day we can video chat like startrack, tim cook does not have that dna in his blood. the ONLY reason apple is keeping tim cook in their deep thinking minds is because they don't want to break something thats not broken yet. every product should have their own trademark , apple thanks for letting iOS be the same on each iOS device because of the eco system , but stop bring out the same design for each module. you know what your doing exactly.
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Originally Posted by Nima Fargo View Post
If apple is really releasing this, they are losing talent or just being greedy

 

Just leave. The article is about a fake product.

 
…the iPhone 6 is supposed to be a radical design that no one has…

 

Oh, is it now? On whose authority?

 
I truly believe tim cook is playing stupid or docent have what it takes to bringing a wow feeling to consumers.

 

Yeah, just leave.

 
the ONLY reason apple is keeping tim cook in their deep thinking minds is because they don't want to break something thats not broken yet.

 

Prove it or shut up. Hint: you can’t prove it.

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post #129 of 137

First off all i said IF.

 

and yes we have not had a wow feeling since iPhone 1 which is the truth.

 

and third i LOVE apple thats why i love talking about their products. i will be honest with the company i love . a real customer , 

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Originally Posted by Nima Fargo View Post
First off all i said IF.

 

Good for you. And?

 
and yes we have not had a wow feeling since iPhone 1 which is the truth.

 

No, really, keep lying.

 
i LOVE apple

 

Rule #4.

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post #131 of 137
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Dear Apple:

Please hire Martin Hajek to design the next iPhone. His vision of what it could be looks awesome.

Thanks a lot.

Sincerely,
V5V

I agree. It's amazing how much better that looks than the already beautiful 5s. I think I'd buy a phone like that that off-contract, rather than waiting for my upgrade.
post #132 of 137
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his renders look too much like Samsung Galaxy devices. And i agree that hell will have frozen over if Apple uses asymmetrical bezels in the next iPhone.

I think anything Apple does with a larger screen is going to resemble an S4 in a way, primarily due to the size of the screen.
post #133 of 137
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I think anything Apple does with a larger screen is going to resemble an S4 in a way, primarily due to the size of the screen.

There seems to be a decent enough variety in the design of larger phones (Samsung's design looks worst here IMO):



but Apple would struggle to maintain their iconic design with such a large display. Some people think that's an indication they'll move away from their design, I think it's an indication they won't use such a large display. They could even make the phone physically smaller with a 4.2-4.3" edge to edge display.
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They could even make the phone physically smaller with a 4.2-4.3" edge to edge display.

I'd be ok with that; it's just I don't want another size increase in the FF. I think the 3.5" models were the best, FF size-wise.
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post #135 of 137
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There seems to be a decent enough variety in the design of larger phones (Samsung's design looks worst here IMO):



but Apple would struggle to maintain their iconic design with such a large display. Some people think that's an indication they'll move away from their design, I think it's an indication they won't use such a large display. They could even make the phone physically smaller with a 4.2-4.3" edge to edge display.

I think they could. I just made these two rough sketches of a 4.7" and 5.2" iphone and they still look pretty iconic to me. The circle home button and symmetrical design is what does it.

post #136 of 137
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I think they could. I just made these two rough sketches of a 4.7" and 5.2" iphone and they still look pretty iconic to me. The circle home button and symmetrical design is what does it.

I should have added 'without making it too unwieldy'. They can of course build the same design at any size (they make an 8" iPad with the iconic design) but to retain the iconic design requires having larger top and bottom bezels so for a given screen size, Apple's model will be physically larger than competing devices.

People will make a reference to the physical sizes they are familiar with. When you put the current 4" model in between, it makes the others look far more cumbersome:



4.7" just looks too bulky. The following review shows the Blackberry Z10 and brings in the iPhone 5 for comparison at the end:



The reviewer describes the size as comfortable and it shows up the wasted space on the iPhone. I think that edge to edge display style looks better too. It's like the iMac style. If Apple used a similar form factor to the Z10 but pushed the display out, I reckon they could get a 4.3" in there. The pixels wouldn't necessarily have to go right to the edges as long as it was black to the edge on every model but if the pixels can go that far, even better.

I wonder if they can put the Facetime camera in the middle behind the earphone slot (assuming they can't have a display modification to replace the camera) and then put an earphone speaker to either side but pointed inwards. That might allow the top bezel to come down and they can squeeze in the home button bezel. If they can get the proximity sensor in the earphone hole too, that would help clean up the whole top part. The Blackberry one hides this at the top of the display.
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I should have added 'without making it too unwieldy'. They can of course build the same design at any size (they make an 8" iPad with the iconic design) but to retain the iconic design requires having larger top and bottom bezels so for a given screen size, Apple's model will be physically larger than competing devices.

People will make a reference to the physical sizes they are familiar with. When you put the current 4" model in between, it makes the others look far more cumbersome:



4.7" just looks too bulky. The following review shows the Blackberry Z10 and brings in the iPhone 5 for comparison at the end:



The reviewer describes the size as comfortable and it shows up the wasted space on the iPhone. I think that edge to edge display style looks better too. It's like the iMac style. If Apple used a similar form factor to the Z10 but pushed the display out, I reckon they could get a 4.3" in there. The pixels wouldn't necessarily have to go right to the edges as long as it was black to the edge on every model but if the pixels can go that far, even better.

I wonder if they can put the Facetime camera in the middle behind the earphone slot (assuming they can't have a display modification to replace the camera) and then put an earphone speaker to either side but pointed inwards. That might allow the top bezel to come down and they can squeeze in the home button bezel. If they can get the proximity sensor in the earphone hole too, that would help clean up the whole top part. The Blackberry one hides this at the top of the display.

Yes completely agree. However, with my mock up at least, that 4.7" is just a bit larger than the current 4" 5s. So that 4" mock you added in is actually a 4 inch phone much smaller than the current iPhone. I should have included dimensions. Then current iphone is 59x124mm, and these are...

61x130mm for the 4.7"
A bit wider than the 5s, but the 3GS was this wide so it's still in line with previous iPhones

65x142mm for the 5.2"
Same height as the galaxy s 5, but the width is 8mm less; easier one handed use, ever with a 0.1" larger screen

I know it's simple to design and the engineering is much more complicated, but if they were to go bezel free (I included 1mm for chamfer around the side, similar to this mock up in the article) and reduce the top and bottom bezels to 13mm, it's actually keeping the iconic design and making them smaller than existing phone, even phablets, with even bigger screen sizes. I believe these sizes are the sweet spots.
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