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post #41 of 137
I'm familiar with Mr Dickson as we come from the same area in Victoria. This guy is the real deal and has rarely been wrong.

He does this thing for a living and has spent quite a few years building up a network of contacts in Apple's Asia supply chain. He's a big Apple fan and also owns an iphone repair business. Apple themselves regularly access his website, according to analytic data.

He's a smart kid who's turned this kind of a thing into enough of a business to pay the bills.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if these pictures are genuine.
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post #42 of 137
I hope Apple keeps the current iPhone 5s design for iPhone 6. It's quite a classic and intelligent design.
post #43 of 137
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

Six months later: "OMG, this is the best iPhone yet! Got my pre-order in!"

No, that's not me. You must be mistaking me with someone else.
post #44 of 137
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Originally Posted by GTR View Post

I'm familiar with Mr Dickson as we come from the same area in Victoria. This guy is the real deal and has rarely been wrong.

He does this thing for a living and has spent quite a few years building up a network of contacts in Apple's Asia supply chain. He's a big Apple fan and also owns an iphone repair business. Apple themselves regularly access his website, according to analytic data.

He's a smart kid who's turned this kind of a thing into enough of a business to pay the bills.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if these pictures are genuine.

Which raises the question: is he just getting more efficient at getting this stuff in (i.e. is he getting it faster than in previous years) or is this indicative of a change in the release cycle?

 

Because if the rumors turn out to be true that Apple is planning an earlier release for at least one model of iPhone 6 phone ... that could be huge.

 

(Also, I hope I'm not the only one wishing that Apple would figure out a way to keep the 4" screen alive going forward, because I'm not ready to make room in my life for one of these clown phones.)

post #45 of 137
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Originally Posted by GTR View Post

I'm familiar with Mr Dickson as we come from the same area in Victoria. This guy is the real deal and has rarely been wrong.

He does this thing for a living and has spent quite a few years building up a network of contacts in Apple's Asia supply chain. He's a big Apple fan and also owns an iphone repair business. Apple themselves regularly access his website, according to analytic data.

He's a smart kid who's turned this kind of a thing into enough of a business to pay the bills.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if these pictures are genuine.

But the picture aren't from him. They are from someone else's twitter account. I wonder how he knows they are true.
post #46 of 137
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

Perhaps the antenna signals will be routed through the Apple logo on the back?  Isn't that how they do it on the non-LTE iPads?

That's one of the main reasons these look fake because the devices with a black Apple logo have the shape cut out of the metal and the plastic goes right through to allow the signal to pass and also to keep the plastic in place. It could be that the Apple logo and text are printed on the cellophane to give an idea of what a finished model would look like.

The front is all fake. The touch id is shown with an outer shadow on the ring but the real ring is sunk in, it's not raised up like that.

If there's something genuine in the images, it is only the silver back plate and not the text or front.
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Originally Posted by acslater017 
At first I thought someone might be trolling using pictures of an iPod Touch.

If the back plate is genuine, I'd say it would be a new iPod Touch. The iPod sales have been dropping fast so something is going to replace it. It's not really due for an update as it was updated in September. A sim card can be useful for mobile data.

I'd like to see an iPod Touch as an entry phone with an external antenna. I figured the sim card would go in the external case but it makes more sense to put it internally. Without the antenna case, it's an iPod. That doesn't explain the wifi signal though. Potentially this is an iPod case before the wifi holes are cut out.

It also also doesn't look any bigger than the iPod Touch is now when you look at the size and location of the Lightning port.
post #47 of 137
The silver shell looks legit but the completely assembled gold one looks fake. Doesn't it seem odd that there are 4-5 photos of a silver shell and then one completely assembled gold one lying on top? Plus the gold ring around the home button looked raised which is not how the button is on the 5S. But the biggest reason I think the gold one is fake as I don't think Apple will do asymmetrical bezels. One, because their design ethos seem to prefer symmetry, two, because it looks just like some of the concept renders we've seen and third it would look too much like a Galaxy S3/4 design. Seems to me it would be pretty easy to photoshop a render in there.

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post #48 of 137
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

That's one of the main reasons these look fake because the devices with a black Apple logo have the shape cut out of the metal and the plastic goes right through to allow the signal to pass and also to keep the plastic in place. It could be that the Apple logo and text are printed on the cellophane to give an idea of what a finished model would look like.

The front is all fake. The touch id is shown with an outer shadow on the ring but the real ring is sunk in, it's not raised up like that.

If there's something genuine in the images, it is only the silver back plate and not the text or front.
If the back plate is genuine, I'd say it would be a new iPod Touch. The iPod sales have been dropping fast so something is going to replace it. It's not really due for an update as it was updated in September. A sim card can be useful for mobile data.

I'd like to see an iPod Touch as an entry phone with an external antenna. I figured the sim card would go in the external case but it makes more sense to put it internally. Without the antenna case, it's an iPod. That doesn't explain the wifi signal though. Potentially this is an iPod case before the wifi holes are cut out.

It also also doesn't look any bigger than the iPod Touch is now when you look at the size and location of the Lightning port.
I agree that the gold one looks fake. As far as this being an iPod touch, the lettering on the back says iPhone.
post #49 of 137
That's certainly Apple's signature CNC milling technique. I'd say it could be at least an Apple iPhone prototype.
post #50 of 137
As a reminder, these photos leaked before the iPads came out last year. It's not difficult to do renders that look totally legit.


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post #51 of 137
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  • Electrical Feed-throughs

This can very well be a true LiquidMetal case with RF Transparency and thus the actual iPhone 6 case.
post #52 of 137
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

As far as this being an iPod touch, the lettering on the back says iPhone.

That could be printed on the cellophane or it can be edited in. They certainly wouldn't be printing them now with the FCC label when the iPhone isn't due until September.

I say fake writing, fake front, only the blank silver back possibly genuine and intended for a new iPod Touch.
post #53 of 137
Where does everybody get this idea of unicorn hide liquid metal being transparent to radio waves? If it's metal, it's not. By definition. Being amorphous instead of polycrystalline wouldn't change that; it would probably make it an even better RF shield because the free electrons could wander through the entire piece instead of just one tiny crystal domain.
post #54 of 137
Apple probably does very small test runs of a lot if designs in order to do extensive form factor and other tests. This could very well be a legit Apple piece and just be a test item to test certain factors of the form etc.
post #55 of 137
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post


Um, where does the home button go? 

At the bottom of the front. The photos in the AI article only show the back.

post #56 of 137

I have a hard time believing Jony would make a Samsung Galaxy clone. This is missing some key Appleness.

 

post #57 of 137
It's a iPod touch 6 generation, come on, it's right in front of you. Getting all the traits from the iphone 5s, gold, the True Tone flash, Touch iD. Just like the iPod touch 5th generation from the iPhone 4S, but just a bigger screen. Think about it. An iPod touch don't need antennas, since it's a wifi only device. There doesn't look like there is a spot for that in the pictures. Anyways it's probably just a fake, just play the waiting game till' Fall💁
post #58 of 137
Apparently this anonymous Twitter account is the source of the leak, and it includes images of the front of the phone: https://twitter.com/mornray886/media
post #59 of 137
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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post
 

Its too early for those kind of leaks, this may point to a launch sooner than fall.

 

Credible iPhone 5 leaks appeared around this time in Feb 2012, but everyone blew them off.

 

Accurate iPhone 5S leaks started in December of 2012 and early 2013.

 

These leakers are getting good. Guess we'll see in 7 months.

post #60 of 137
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Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

Where does everybody get this idea of unicorn hide liquid metal being transparent to radio waves? If it's metal, it's not. By definition. Being amorphous instead of polycrystalline wouldn't change that; it would probably make it an even better RF shield because the free electrons could wander through the entire piece instead of just one tiny crystal domain.

From the inventor of Liquid Metal himself, that's where:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/on-rumors-metal-iphone-backs-and-radio-transparency/
post #61 of 137
More evidence these might be fake.

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post #62 of 137
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Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post

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Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

Where does everybody get this idea of unicorn hide liquid metal being transparent to radio waves? If it's metal, it's not. By definition. Being amorphous instead of polycrystalline wouldn't change that; it would probably make it an even better RF shield because the free electrons could wander through the entire piece instead of just one tiny crystal domain.

From the inventor of Liquid Metal himself, that's where:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/on-rumors-metal-iphone-backs-and-radio-transparency/

He talks about using the case as an antenna, which means it's a conductor. Which means it's not RF-transparent. Again—by definition.

Modern antenna design is a very sophisticated science. I doubt if any random slab of metal is going to be ideal. That means the case would have to be divided up into the antenna part and its surroundings by non-conductive strips, like a printed circuit board. I see no sign of that here.
post #63 of 137
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Originally Posted by jakeb View Post

I have a hard time believing Jony would make a Samsung Galaxy clone. This is missing some key Appleness.


Aside from asymmetrical bezels what makes it look like a Galaxy, or missing key Appleness? It's basically a larger iPod touch or a smaller iPad. Btw, I think the gold phone is fake; I don't think Apple will release a new phone with asymmetrical bezels.
post #64 of 137
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Originally Posted by ismael View Post

An iPod touch don't need antennas, since it's a wifi only device.

An iPod Touch most certainly needs antennas...

post #65 of 137
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Originally Posted by asdasd View Post

Looks pretty convincing and pretty good stuff. For those of us who like the bigger phones. Hopeful they will continue to offer a 5S size with same internals for the one handed fanatics.
I think that the +3.5 inch screen is the best size.
post #66 of 137
If these pics are real, Apple legal will have them removed.
post #67 of 137

It looks legitimate to me, at least for a design model. Especially after seeing it's dimensions overlaid with an iPhone 5S:

 

 

Some points:

Sunny Dickson has a recent track record

Component quality, fit and finish is similar to other Apple device leaks

The design improves significantly on the current model without introducing many tradeoffs (except for a small increase in height).

Maintaining the same width as the iPhone 5S avoids the main drawback of larger-screened phones.

Addressing screen size gives them another reason to revisiting pixel density. 1080p (FULL HD) or higher is a big marketing point. Only slightly higher and you're at 1280-by-2272 which would allow seamless support for legacy software similar to the transition from iPhone 4 > 4S.

Display allows exactly enough room for an additional (7th) row of application icons.


Edited by Dunks - 2/12/14 at 9:38pm
post #68 of 137
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

More evidence these might be fake.

You do see it is in a plastic wrapper, right?

 

post #69 of 137
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Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post


An iPod Touch most certainly needs antennas...

 

I cannot believe someone actually proclaimed a device does not need a radio antennae because they are only wifi enabled.

post #70 of 137

For those with zero Material Science Engineering, Mechanical Engineering and Electrical Engineering backgrounds stop proclaiming amorphous metals cannot be RF enabled.

https://www.cst.com/Content/Articles/article232/Ylonen_Amorphous_metal_Extended_abstract.pdf

 

Just read.

 

MEMS will become the defacto for Radio designs.

 

Amorphous SiC as a structural layer in microbridge-based RF MEMS switches for use in software-defined radio

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0038110108001925


Edited by mdriftmeyer - 2/12/14 at 9:16pm
post #71 of 137
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

You do see it is in a plastic wrapper, right?



Look at the red circles. Identical bubbles on both devices. Seems a bit odd doesn't it?
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post #73 of 137
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

For those with zero Material Science Engineering, Mechanical Engineering and Electrical Engineering backgrounds stop proclaiming amorphous metals cannot be RF enabled.

https://www.cst.com/Content/Articles/article232/Ylonen_Amorphous_metal_Extended_abstract.pdf

Just read.

MEMS will become the defacto for Radio designs.

as a structural layer in microbridge-based RF MEMS switches for use in software-defined radio



http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0038110108001925

"Amorphous SiC"

Silicon Carbide is not a metal, it's a ceramic. An amorphous ceramic, an insulator, would be transparent to RF. A metal, with free electrons moving through its bulk, cannot be.
post #74 of 137
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX View Post




One of the pictures, from 9to5 Mac.

 

This looks more like a Samsung Galaxy phone.

 

EDIT: Pipped by Rogifan and Jakeb.

post #75 of 137
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post
Look at the red circles. Identical bubbles on both devices. Seems a bit odd doesn't it?

Okay. Got it now.

post #76 of 137
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

More evidence these might be fake.

fake_iphone6.gif

 

By all appearances the display on the gold model has definitely been faked. If you look below The edge of the display and the (parallel) edge of the phone don't have the same vanishing point. The headphone jack also looks weird.

 


Edited by Dunks - 2/12/14 at 10:08pm
post #77 of 137
Sorry, I missed why it's highly suspect. Sonny posts real stuff, look at his iPad Mini leaks.
post #78 of 137
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

More evidence these might be fake.

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And even more telling is the fact that phone with the screen side up isn't even in a plastic bag... so where are the bubbles coming from?  LOL!  

post #79 of 137
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Originally Posted by Lerxt View Post

Sorry, I missed why it's highly suspect. Sonny posts real stuff, look at his iPad Mini leaks.

He's pointing out that the bubbles on the front and back are almost identical.  Not to mention the fact that there is no plastic bag on the phone that is face up... so where are the bubbles coming from?  LOL!

post #80 of 137
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Originally Posted by starxd View Post

And even more telling is the fact that phone with the screen side up isn't even in a plastic bag... so where are the bubbles coming from?  LOL!  
That gold phone is so fake. What screen looks liked that? Plus it's too similar to concept renderings. I will be very surprised if Apple releases the phone with asymmetrical bezels.
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