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After nearly three years on the market, Apple's second-generation iPad, which sports an A5 processor and non-Retina display, is now on the chopping block, and is expected to be discontinued in the near future, AppleInsider has learned.

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According to people familiar with Apple's plans, the company has made the decision to ramp down iPad 2 production given that customers are resoundingly shifting purchases towards its more modern and capable iPads, namely the iPad mini and iPad Air.

Apple's iPad 2 first went on sale in March of 2011 and was an immediate success. A year later, when Apple debuted the third-generation iPad with Retina display, it continued to offer the previous-generation iPad 2 at a lower price point of $399.

The $399 iPad 2 may no longer be as appealing to customers with the Retina iPad mini now occupying the same price point.Even with the launch of two more subsequent hardware revisions -- most recently last fall with the fifth-generation iPad Air -- the iPad 2 has continued to live on as a legacy device in Apple's product lineup. Its remaining availability has been somewhat perplexing, suggesting that Apple continued to find success with the device at $399.

But starting last fall, Apple began offering another model at the $399 price point -- the iPad mini with Retina display. And while the iPad 2 has had a tremendous run, customers are now said to be opting for the more compact and higher-resolution iPads.

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The anticipated discontinuation of the iPad 2 aligns with a prediction made by analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities last November. He revealed that Apple was set to ship just 0.3 million iPad 2 units in the current quarter, suggesting to him that the product is nearing end-of-life.

Still, after nearly three years on the market, the iPad 2 has been a smash success for Apple in its long stay on the market. One study published late last year suggested the iPad 2 remained the company's most popular tablet in use, accounting for some 38 percent of units in the wild before the debut of the iPad Air and Retina iPad mini.

When it launched in 2011, the iPad 2 represented a major redesign from the first-generation model, which was immediately discontinued. The second-generation tablet was also the first to sport compatibility with Apple's magnetic Smart Cover, the first to be offered in white in addition to black, and the first to feature a forward facing FaceTime camera.
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I still have mine. Runs iOS 7 great and everything I throw at it runs beautifully. 

 

It was and still is a great device. 

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It was my understanding that the iPad 2 was still extremely popular with business customers. Does this mean that they are finally moving on to the iPad Air?
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Isn't the non-retina iPad mini the same, speed-wise?
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It was my understanding that the iPad 2 was still extremely popular with business customers. Does this mean that they are finally moving on to the iPad Air?

I get lost in all the version, but isn't there still a retina iPad 2 or was that dropped for the Air?
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The iPad2 was very popular in point of sales setups and kiosks. I know a lot of businesses that use them for small advertising billboards.
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I get lost in all the version, but isn't there still a retina iPad 2 or was that dropped for the Air?

There was the new retina "iPad" which was called the iPad 3 by the public. It was discontinued in favor of the iPad 4 which was discontinued for the iPad Air.

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My wife still loves here iPad 2, although I intend on giving her an iPad air for her birthday in 2 weeks. I will probably cascade the 2 to a family member.

The folks at Fiksu provide hourly updates on the iOS market, looking at activity filters to identify unique devices. http://www.fiksu.com/iOS-7-iPhone-5s-5c-Usage-Tracker

For today at 10 EST, they show the iPad2 having a 31.9% share of active iPad users. This is down from 39.2% back 104 days ago when the iPad Air and iPad Retina Mini were released. Here are the current percentages of the products being currently sold:
iPad Air 9.1%, iPad Retina Mini 3.2%, original iPad Mini 21.9%, and the iPad2 @31.9%.

Note that the two new devices have capture 12.3% of all iPad users in just over 3 months.
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Yes, the iPad 2 has been very popular by enterprise customers as well as educational institutions. Only the 16GB model of the iPad 2 is being sold at this point, and the vastly superior iPad Air is only a hundred dollars more.

 

If Apple reduces the price of the current Air model by a hundred dollars when they release the next full-sized iPad, then there would be no hiccup in providing a suitable model at the $400 price point.

 

The iPad 2 end-of-life would likely occur when the next-generation iPads are released, not sooner though. 

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It't time they discontinue the 30 pin line and move to Lightning. Will be interesting whether they still continue with the 30 pin iPod Classic.

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I just replaced the original iPad my 2 daughters have been using for awhile now w/a Retina Mini 32GB. Huge upgrade and it's definitely easier for them to both cart around, especially my 5 year old. Full apple case on both the original and this one. They treat the iPads very well.
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Well, duh. And?

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If Apple reduces the price of the current Air model by a hundred dollars when they release the next full-sized iPad
Um, the Air is the FULL-SIZED iPad. If anything, this hints at a large iPad on the horizon, allowing them to drop the Air down to the iPad 2s price while offering the larger screen for the same iPad price point.
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Well, duh. And?

And this story is exclusive, because when you're able to buy one it is an exclusive.

Joking aside, I'll never understand why the 2nd gen was a success. I mean, there weren't any usable tablets until Apple released theirs the year before. Did so many people either hold out for the 2nd gen or upgraded their 1st gen?
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Apple always moving fwd. Good for them! :)

 

 

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post
Did so many people either hold out for the 2nd gen or upgraded their 1st gen?

 

That’s exactly it. I remember the “I’ll wait for the second one” talk all over forums from back then. It being thinner and lighter probably helped out the general person brigade, too.

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There was the new retina "iPad" which was called the iPad 3 by the public. It was discontinued in favor of the iPad 4 which was discontinued for the iPad Air.

You lost me after "iPad ..." 1biggrin.gif

I have at least one of every model in my cupboard.
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It't time they discontinue the 30 pin line and move to Lightning. Will be interesting whether they still continue with the 30 pin iPod Classic.
I don't see any reason for them to change the Classic until SSD in the same capacity can be sold for the same price. The only thing it currently offers is capacity. And as such is more of a legacy device compared to Apple' current iCloud business model. Despite which, I think Apple realizes there are plenty of situations in which Internet connectivity is not practical. But I see the Classic morphing into more of a Touch device comprised mostly of storage anyway.
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Amazing how much better iPad has gotten. At the same time, amazing how many people I know refuse to sell and upgrade because they love whatever iPad they've originally owned. I simply can't convince my wife to sell her iPad 3 while it still has some appreciable value (probably about $275) and get the Air.

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Amazing how much better iPad has gotten. At the same time, amazing how many people I know refuse to sell and upgrade because they love whatever iPad they've originally owned. I simply can't convince my wife to sell her iPad 3 while it still has some appreciable value (probably about $275) and get the Air.


My 32GB Wi-Fi iPad 3 is still routinely selling for 3 and 400 on Ebay and Apple only offers $160 on a trade in.  This fall when the next round of iPads come out I may upgrade to a Mini 3.  I tested the hardest to read pdf I own and it was just fine on the smaller screen of the one I bought for my kids

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Amazing how much better iPad has gotten. At the same time, amazing how many people I know refuse to sell and upgrade because they love whatever iPad they've originally owned. I simply can't convince my wife to sell her iPad 3 while it still has some appreciable value (probably about $275) and get the Air.

It's difficult to let go of an iPad. I've got my eye on a potentially larger future iPad for pro apps, but right now I can't imagine letting go of my iPad 3.

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According to people familiar with the plans, the government is conspiring with aliens to abduct and anally probe its citizens for genetic experiments involving human-cattle hybrids. And don't you dare question them because they are people familiar with the plans. They have a VERY ACCURATE track record when you ignore all of the times they have been wrong. 1smile.gif

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It't time they discontinue the 30 pin line and move to Lightning. Will be interesting whether they still continue with the 30 pin iPod Classic.

The 30-pin connector isn't something Apple is trying to erase from history, but many people view it that way. The connector is near-universal in the accessories market, and it was originally designed for the iPod. I don't think Apple will discontinue the iPod Classic solely to kill the 30-pin dock/cables.

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Joking aside, I'll never understand why the 2nd gen was a success. I mean, there weren't any usable tablets until Apple released theirs the year before. Did so many people either hold out for the 2nd gen or upgraded their 1st gen?

 

I think it's a combination of the two.

 

I know a lot of people who bought both models under the "his and hers" (or all combinations thereof) excuse.  And the "single because I love technology more than people" crowd waited for the 2nd gen.

 
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Best product I've ever owned. Bought on day one, still using it several hours every day. It's truly an amazing product. I actually dropped it for the first time on the floor this week, but it fortunately didn't break. But yes, it's getting pretty slow with iOS 7 on some tasks. I was surprised to recently learn that iPads before the Air were thicker and heavier than the 2.
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A great device. My wife loves hers. An additional factor is the fact it is one of the last devices using the 30 pin connector, which apparently Apple is anxious to move on from. Too bad as there is an incredible array of devices out there using the 30 pin. One of the beauties of the ipad 2 is that we transport it where ever we may travel and via the Apple AV cable, use it to put iTunes programs up on the big screen. Easy. Reliable. Does not require a wiFi connection. And oh yes, we are avid users of the ipod classic too, often used the same way for audio.
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And this story is exclusive, because when you're able to buy one it is an exclusive.

Joking aside, I'll never understand why the 2nd gen was a success. I mean, there weren't any usable tablets until Apple released theirs the year before. Did so many people either hold out for the 2nd gen or upgraded their 1st gen?

 

What did YOU do? Didn't you buy one? 

I had both the first and second iPad, bought on first day both.

The first was slower but had a great design. I wish they made an iPad with the same flat sides like the first one, albeit very thin. Like a nice slate of metal.

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What did YOU do? Didn't you buy one? 

I got the first one, straight away (obviously). When the 2nd came out I didn't felt compelled to get it as 'it was simply faster and lighter than what I have" (1.35lbs vs 1.6 and A4 1GHz vs A5 1GHz)

When they released the 3rd gen with the retina display I immediately got it as photography is a hobby of mine and I thought the display would make a difference. It did.

The 4th gen didn't 'entice' me, but I understood their reasoning for Apple upgrading it due to the new iPhone with the Lighting plug. I also understand their 128GB option right before MS realised their Surface, yet didn't feel the need to upgrade. And as much as the iPad Air is a great product on its own, I don't really feel compelled to upgrade from a 3rd gen as I don't have any issues with its weight. I don't carry it around much, and when I do it's in my rug sack, so no issue on the weight. When holding it I don't feel the desire to get a lighter one, in spite of my skinniness. (I do work put though, aiming at a 70.3 Ironman. Who am I kidding, maybe next year)
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I got the first one, straight away (obviously). When the 2nd came out I didn't felt compelled to get it as 'it was simply faster and lighter than what I have" (1.35lbs vs 1.6 and A4 1GHz vs A5 1GHz)

When they released the 3rd gen with the retina display I immediately got it as photography is a hobby of mine and I thought the display would make a difference. It did.

 

Exactly the same as what I did.

 

Bought the 1st gen right away because I work in tech, had already worked a lot with the iPhone, and wanted to explore the first real, usable tablet with a great SDK.  I already had a camera for FaceTime and whatnot on my iPhone, so the 2nd gen upgrades didn't matter too much to me.  However, the retina display on the 3rd gen enticed me to upgrade under the "his and hers" guise (it actually became my son's).  Love my 3rd gen iPad.

 
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I'm using my 1st gen as a media player when having friends over for dinner; it lays on the dinner table and everyone can simply tab on an album cover they remember. They like it, as do I.
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The $399 iPad 2 may no longer be as appealing to customers with the Retina iPad mini now occupying the same price point.

 

They should had price it at $350 would had made more sense.

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I remember having the iPad 2 when the mini was released, and torn between keeping it or swapping for the mini. Frankly, because they were the same tablet I waited until the Retina mini, which I love. But until that point my iPad 2 worked flawlessly. 

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I'm using my 1st gen as a media player when having friends over for dinner; it lays on the dinner table and everyone can simply tab on an album cover they remember. They like it, as do I.

 

Absolutely.  The 1st gen still sees quite a bit of use in our home as well.  It's perfectly capable for plenty of the games my son plays, as a media controller, and has seen lots of use as a baby monitor (in conjunction with a webcam).  No regrets buying it whatsoever.

 
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I got the first one, straight away (obviously). When the 2nd came out I didn't felt compelled to get it as 'it was simply faster and lighter than what I have" (1.35lbs vs 1.6 and A4 1GHz vs A5 1GHz)

When they released the 3rd gen with the retina display I immediately got it as photography is a hobby of mine and I thought the display would make a difference. It did.

The 4th gen didn't 'entice' me, but I understood their reasoning for Apple upgrading it due to the new iPhone with the Lighting plug. I also understand their 128GB option right before MS realised their Surface, yet didn't feel the need to upgrade. And as much as the iPad Air is a great product on its own, I don't really feel compelled to upgrade from a 3rd gen as I don't have any issues with its weight. I don't carry it around much, and when I do it's in my rug sack, so no issue on the weight. When holding it I don't feel the desire to get a lighter one, in spite of my skinniness. (I do work put though, aiming at a 70.3 Ironman. Who am I kidding, maybe next year)

 

I wasn't really interested in the fourth gen either.

 

The Air however... that one looks very nice. I'm really wondering how they'll update it. I'm going to buy one for my parents very soon.

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Amazing how much better iPad has gotten. At the same time, amazing how many people I know refuse to sell and upgrade because they love whatever iPad they've originally owned. I simply can't convince my wife to sell her iPad 3 while it still has some appreciable value (probably about $275) and get the Air.

 

I couldn't let go of my iPad first generation (my wife couldn't either). It ran iWork and Garageband perfectly, iBooks, Kindle, Mail, Safari, and even a few fun games like Angry Birds and Cut the Rope. A couple of specialized apps that required iOS 7 finally convinced us to make the leap to an iPad Air. Although I now love the Air, as it's amazingly light and nimble (and super powerful :)), I still prefer the 1st generation form factor. It was much easier to hold without slipping (if a bit heavy when holding for a long time), and felt super solid, especially the screen which felt like a solid piece of glass. The Air's screen feels like crappy Samsung plastic. I've gotten used to it, but I still hate the feel when having to tap a lot. Maybe if I hadn't had the 1st generation I wouldn't feel that way. Maybe it's just hard to let go of something that's so close to one's daily life.

 

It was difficult to let go, but the family members who received them were extremely happy in spite of the app acquisition problems due to apps with NO new features and NO real power requirements suddenly requiring iOS 7 (I'm looking at you Amazon).

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And this story is exclusive, because when you're able to buy one it is an exclusive.

Joking aside, I'll never understand why the 2nd gen was a success. I mean, there weren't any usable tablets until Apple released theirs the year before. Did so many people either hold out for the 2nd gen or upgraded their 1st gen?

 

I waited.  Though, to be honest, I couldn't tell you exactly why at this point.  I just remember thinking something along the lines of, "Let's see how it turns out."  But, I barely remember yesterday, so ... :)

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We would have had an original iPad day 1, but we didn't have the spare money.  Bought the original in October 2010.  Got my iPad3 pre-ordered as one of the first after the keynote.  I like my kid's Retina Mini, it's nice.  Huge difference in screen area w/the iPad 3.  I actually never liked the 2 b/c it felt like it went too thin.  I liked the heft of the original and the 3.  The Air seems nice enough, but I haven't spent any time messing w/one.  The Retina Mini feels about as heavy as a paperback novel tho

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I wonder if they'll keep these around for Educational use? I know a lot of schools buy the iPad 2 because they want a full-sized iPad, but don't have $499/iPad to shell out. The iPad mini is nice, but in my experience its just too small for educational use. 


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Isn't the non-retina iPad mini the same, speed-wise?
Yes it is slightly better than IPad 2 and $100 cheaper.
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I get lost in all the version, but isn't there still a retina iPad 2 or was that dropped for the Air?
Never, people hoped for it but there was a 3rd and 4th generation running similar soecs(the two)named new and retina for point of sake.
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There was the new retina "iPad" which was called the iPad 3 by the public. It was discontinued in favor of the iPad 4 which was discontinued for the iPad Air.

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It't time they discontinue the 30 pin line and move to Lightning. Will be interesting whether they still continue with the 30 pin iPod Classic.
I would guess they drop all iPods at same time when they do, Classic may be replaced with a 64 gb SSD model with a lighting and similar look.
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They should had price it at $350 would had made more sense.
Or $330 for that matter, since there are 3 iPads after it should be -$50 at least per generation.
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It's difficult to let go of an iPad. I've got my eye on a potentially larger future iPad for pro apps, but right now I can't imagine letting go of my iPad 3.

I gave my wife my original iPad and I have an iPad 4 now. The original still works fine, especially for what she wants to use it for - browsing, watching videos, playing Bejeweled, etc.

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