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Rumor: Apple working on 4.7", 5.6" iPhones for release in Q3 2014

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The latest sketchy report out of the Far East claims Apple is working on two jumbo-sized iPhone models this year, and even goes as far as to claim that executives at the company may not refer to a larger, more premium 5.6-inch model with the existing "iPhone" brand.

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Mockup of iPhone with 4.94-inch screen, created by Marco Arment.


The alleged details were published this week by Taiwan's Economic Daily News, and highlighted by Macotakara. Some of the rumors align with previous claims, specifically that Apple is looking to use a sapphire glass cover for its next-generation "iPhone 6," though the latest report claims that those changes may be exclusively for the new 5.6-inch model.

The latest claims out of Taipei suggest that Apple's new 4.7-inch iPhone model will continue to sport Corning Gorilla Glass, like previous handsets from the company. But a new 5.6-inch device will have a sapphire glass screen, and will not be named an "iPhone," the report suggested.

While advanced reports on hardware specifications do sometimes prove accurate, branding of such devices is not the kind of information that makes its way down Apple's supply chain. As such, while Apple could be working on a 5.6-inch iOS-based device, exactly what it will be named is almost assuredly unknown by suppliers.

Wednesday's report claims that Apple's 5.6-inch "non-iPhone" is an "experimental" device that will feature sapphire glass from GT Advanced Technologies. Apple inked a $578 million deal with the supplier in late 2013.

It's claimed that Apple's so-called "iPhone 6" will be released in the third quarter of 2014. Availability of the new 5.6-inch device is expected to be limited because of its use of sapphire glass.

The claims are somewhat similar to another report that appeared a week ago, claiming Apple is working on "iPhone 6" models with display sizes of 5.5 inches and 4.7 inches. The South China Morning Post cited "industry insiders" who alleged to have seen "prototypes" of the upcoming devices, though that report claimed both handsets will feature scratch-resistant sapphire crystal glass.

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Apple's current iPhone lineup.


Casting serious doubt upon that report, however, was a claim that the new handsets would feature a pixel density of 441 pixels-per-inch. That number is off by eight pixels, if Apple were to maintain the 16:9 screen aspect ratio currently found on the iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c and iPhone 5.

Apple's current flagship device, the iPhone 5s, sports a 4-inch screen packing in 326 pixels-per-inch into its Retina display. Prior to the iPhone 5, Apple's smartphones sported smaller 3.5-inch screens.

Multiple rumors have suggested that Apple is looking to yet again increase the size of the iPhone's display this year, following a market trend toward devices with larger screens. To date, the most credible rumors have pegged a new iPhone display at under 5 inches, citing Apple's desire to continue to allow one-handed use of its handsets.
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Remember when everybody bragged about how small their cell phone was?

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I heard they're working on a 56" phone. At first I thought my source dropped a decimal point, I was assured it was right. Sounds ridiculous, I know... But no more so than this rumor.
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The 4.7" sounds reasonable. The 5.5"+? Not sure I'd pick that one up.
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Feh. It's all irrelevant until it isn't.

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iPad nano (shakes head)
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4.7" for a one-handed device, I understand.

5.6' is not a one-handed device anymore, and thus not an iPhone. It would be an iPad nano.
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4.7" for a one-handed device, I understand.

5.6' is not a one-handed device anymore, and thus not an iPhone. It would be an iPad nano.

Neat comment !  iPad Nano !

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Meanwhile, this apparently is the new HTC One. Which will come in gold, silver and gray. Way to be original there HTC. I first saw this on the Verge and everything I dislike were basically echoed in the comments. Color looks nasty, corners are too rounded and the extra bezel on the front with the HTC logo is unnecessary, especially with another HTC logo on the back. The original One looked very classy, this looks like a cheap Samsung imitation.

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Come on now. Wake up!  This is not quite April Fools Day yet.

And the report forgot to mention it will be 64-bit + parity, 16 GP registers, Hardware Multiply/Divide, Floating point, all with an optional Selector Channel and Multiplexer bus. And there is also an option for the ASR-33 via the new Bluetooth slow speed interface,

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Marco will need an even bigger photoshop if these rumors continue. And they will.

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Another rumour on limited supply. Define limited and ask could they ever produce enough iPhones on a launch day ;p.

Same old same old....
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Meanwhile, this apparently is the new HTC One. Which will come in gold, silver and gray. Way to be original there HTC. I first saw this on the Verge and everything I dislike were basically echoed in the comments. Color looks nasty, corners are too rounded and the extra bezel on the front with the HTC logo is unnecessary, especially with another HTC logo on the back. The original One looked very classy, this looks like a cheap Samsung imitation.

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Samsung imitation?? I'm Pretty sure they share the same R&D lab in Cupertino.

Also, my sketchy Far East sources say the 5.6' will be called the iGalaxy.
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I hope this is true - I'll definitely pick up one of the 5.6" models if it is.

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Hmmmm.... what if the one with so called "non-iphone" branding was in fact the new iPod Touch?!?!

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I hope this is true - I'll definitely pick up one of the 5.6" models if it is.

You need a new tv ?
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Yeah, I didn't think I wanted a bigger phone until my partner got a Note 3, and now I realise why all the criticisms of larger phones are bogus. It fits fine in my pocket, I can use it one handed( it even has an option to squish the keyboard to one side for those with tiny hands) and now my iphone seems almost comically little. If Apple doesn't release a larger phone, I will be switching to the Note series next fall.

I wish apple was still competing in this game, but every other company is now offering more for less, and unfortunately a fingerprint scanner and a pretty iOS don't hide it's shortcomings. Don't get me wrong, I love Apple and I am rooting for them, but right now I'm a little disappointed. Hopefully they wow this fall.
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Remember when everybody bragged about how small their cell phone was?

We still do.  The 3.5 inch screen is the only one that can be easily used with one hand by pretty much everybody.

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If the bezels are smaller, than it is now, I will definitely pick up the 5.6' model. This will replace my current Galaxy Note 3 (which I think is the best smart phone on the market at the moment). A BIG screen iPhone will dominate the market without doubt.

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How about iFab for the 5.6" name if they don't use iPhone. The fabulous Apple phablet. Some geeks might associate the word fab with fabrication but 99% of the world associates it with fabulous.  And no I am not being serious. As much as I want a larger iPhone even I am becoming somewhat bored with all these same rumors with a minor tweak to make it seem different. 

 

On a more serious note though....16:9 might be better suited for some movies but for for surfing, email, texts, games, and pretty much everything else 4:3 of the iPad is a better choice. The 16:9 aspect of the 4" iPhone also to help maintain one handed use. But once they go much larger I don't think Apple would try and claim this is a one handed phone so it is not inconceivable that they go with 16:10 or even 4:3 like the iPad because one handed use would not be emphasized. 

 

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We still do.  The 3.5 inch screen is the only one that can be easily used with one hand by pretty much everybody.

 

I'd have to agree. At 3.5" it was truly 'easy' to use the whole display with your thumb on one hand.

 

The question becomes, how important of a tradeoff that is for making a device with a bigger screen, and thus easier to see.

 

The 4" phone is still easy to use with one hand, but you can't ignore that its not AS easy to reach the top corners of the display as it used to be. But, ok, we've acknowledged that. Would I go back to the 3.5"? No. Too many other positive gains with the 4". So, I'm ready to see the new gains that come with 4.7" display, and prepared to accept the further tradeoffs of one-handed usage.

 

I do NOT believe, however, that anything over 4.8" would be an acceptable tradeoff.

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You need a new tv ?

It'll fit in my pockets, and I've never really used my phone one-handed much anyway. A 5.6" iPhone would give me the ability to view a huge amount of content at once,  and would be a very high-quality device if Apple's other products are anything to go by. The alternative is for me to get a large Android phone of some sort - probably the HTC One Two or whatever it's going to be called, and I'd much rather get an Apple device if I can.

 

Ultimately a 5.6" phone just happens to fit my use case quite well - I suspect most people would get a phone plus a tablet, but I'd rather get an oversized phone.

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As these Android phones increase in size, soon there will be room to put a floppy drive in one!  That's a spec that Apple will NEVER match!

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I could see a 4.7 ish iPhone. Anything larger than 5" is foolish.

I heard a new rumor from a guy that knows a guy who was a college roommate of another guy who dated an Apple employee's sister. The iPhone 6 will be 6" with a stylus, NFC, retina scanner, touch 3D that can transform into a watch by asking Siri!!!
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I don't know. I already have a hard time using iPhone 5 with one hand. So if they come out with 5.6'' iPhone I will get it.

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post #26 of 153
Apple needs to go back to 3.5.
They had 5 generation at 3.5. i4 was the perfect design. No wonder apple is bringing it back into production for India.
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4.7" for a one-handed device, I understand.

5.6' is not a one-handed device anymore, and thus not an iPhone. It would be an iPad nano.

5.6 feet? iPad ginormo. 1wink.gif
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5.6 feet? iPad ginormo. 1wink.gif

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4", 4,7", 5.6" , 7.9" and 9.7" seems to offer something for everyone. I would have to hold a 4.7" and 5.6" in my hands before I could decide. I am leaning towards a 4.7" but would need to actually see them side by side. If it were my decision I would go with one around 5" which I think is the prefect size but I could live with 4.7". 

 

In probably the not so distant future I think clamshell type smartphones will appear. But instead of folding down like the old flip phones they will likely fold open vertically . When open you can probably have a 6" or even 7" tablet and close it in half and it is very pocketable around the size of an iPhone 5s.  I would imagine for taking voice calls you could leave it in the closed position as well and it could have a much smaller external display for calls, texts, and other notifications. The Kyocera echo was a taste of that possibility but the tech is still a long ways off so it failed miserably. When the screen is open it has to be one seamless display and not have lines or a bezel between the two halves. It has to work as one display not two. There is also the advantage that while closed the display is protected. 


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Larger screens are OK, but that's hardly innovative. Almost everyone else already has one.

If Apple wants to "Be Different," is should create an iPhone Sport that can be taken surfing or even in dives down 30-40 feet. It'd also work well in hospital environments where equipments needs to be sterilized. It makes little sense to be developing an iWatch to be used for jogging in a heavy rain, but have an iPhone attached that can't cope with a light mist.

Apply might also create an iPhone EL (for Extended Life) that'd follow where the iPad and MacBook Air have led--into longer-than-most-people-need battery lives. Three days would be nice. A week of normal use would be even better. My iPad 3 amazes me with how long its battery lasts. My iPhone not so much. Make iPhones more like iPads.

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Apply might also create an iPhone EL (for Extended Life) that'd follow where the iPad and MacBook Air have led--into longer-than-most-people-need battery lives. Three days would be nice. A week of normal use would be even better. 

 

Kind of weird that we've got to the point that a week of use for a mobile device is seen as this special " longer-than-most-people-need" thing.  Lots of feature phones have no problem lasting a week or more.  Of course they're used for so much less, but this acceptance of 24 hours battery life as normal is a pretty new thing.

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Larger screens are OK, but that's hardly innovative. Almost everyone else already has one.

If Apple wants to "Be Different," is should create an iPhone Sport that can be taken surfing or even in dives down 30-40 feet. It'd also work well in hospital environments where equipments needs to be sterilized. It makes little sense to be developing an iWatch to be used for jogging in a heavy rain, but have an iPhone attached that can't cope with a light mist.

Apply might also create an iPhone EL (for Extended Life) that'd follow where the iPad and MacBook Air have led--into longer-than-most-people-need battery lives. Three days would be nice. A week of normal use would be even better. My iPad 3 amazes me with how long its battery lasts. My iPhone not so much. Make iPhones more like iPads.

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4.7" for a one-handed device, I understand.

5.6' is not a one-handed device anymore, and thus not an iPhone. It would be an iPad nano.

 

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iPad nano (shakes head)

 

Not gonna happen :) Apple would have a pricing problem with iPad branding of the 5.6" phablet.  With 8" iPad Mini Retina is only $399, they can't possibly sell an "iPad Nano" for $649+

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I hope this is true - I'll definitely pick up one of the 5.6" models if it is.

But will you pay for it?
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At the way these predictions are going with increasing phone sizes, I predict Apple will just throw phone parts into an iPad Mini and call it a day.

 

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Invention for Apple

So Apple "invented" size 4.7" and 5.5" for their future iPhones. Good idea. They are so awesome, people at Apple. Genius, it has to be invented!


Copy for Samsung.

While, with his new Galaxy 5S Samsung is copying the idea behind the Iphone 5s and 5c where one of the twins is deficient. It appears that one of the two Galaxy 5S will be less technologicaly advanced. A copy machine those Samsung!
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At the way these predictions are going with increasing phone sizes, I predict Apple will just throw phone parts into an iPad Mini and call it a day.

 

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If VOIP didn't suck, and Apple could be their own VOIP carrier...They could easily do away with all phone radios and just make a device at every sensible size increment that is WIFI+LTE and call it a day.

 

But, the reason they don't, is they get away with charging more for an iPhone because, ostensibly, its a phone, and not a tablet...thus making an obscene amount of money off of the iPhone. If they can charge $429 for an iPad mini with WIFI+LTE, (a price that is bound to come down even more this year) you can't tell me an iPhone with WIFI+LTE (and no 'phone') couldn't cost even less.

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Large screen iPhone could not arrive fast enough. I personally know several people who switched from the iPhone purely due to the larger screen of the Galaxy. Middle-aged and seniors prefer the larger font and larger keyboard and there is no accessibility feature that can replace that.

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