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Large screen iPhone could not arrive fast enough. I personally know several people who switched from the iPhone purely due to the larger screen of the Galaxy. Middle-aged and seniors prefer the larger font and larger keyboard and there is no accessibility feature that can replace that.

Screen size was one of the factors why I switched to the HTC One last year. Of course, I threw a custom ROM to remove the bloat (Sense and AT&T crapware). Nothing against Apple, but I love the larger screen, 1080p display and stereo speakers on the front of the device. Depending on the iPhone 6's redesign, I might switch back.

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The new iPod Touch?

That's a good point and definitely a possibility.  But let's say hypothetically speaking Apple does release a device that competes with the Note 3, they could call it the iNote - with sapphire glass & built-in digitizer so you could, optionally, use a stylus? We'll see.

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That's a good point and definitely a possibility.  But let's say hypothetically speaking Apple does release a device that competes with the Note 3, they could call it the iNote - with sapphire glass & built-in digitizer so you could, optionally, use a stylus? We'll see.

the iPhone is one of the most famous and recognizable products on the planet. There is zero reason for Apple not to call any iOS device capable of making voice calls anything other than an iPhone regardless of the display size. 

 

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Originally Posted by gwmac View Post
There is zero reason for Apple not to call any iOS device capable of making voice calls anything other than an iPhone regardless of the display size. 

 

iPhone.

iPhone.

iPhone.

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the iPhone is one of the most famous and recognizable products on the planet. There is zero reason for Apple not to call any iOS device capable of making voice calls anything other than an iPhone regardless of the display size. 

Other than making phone / voice calls, one of the defining features of the iPhone is one-handed use, which is why I think the 4.7" device will still be called iPhone.  But a 5.6" device is a different beast altogether, even though it will probably make phone / voice calls.  It's in between an iPhone and iPad.  Why not have its own brand?

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Other than making phone / voice calls, one of the defining features of the iPhone is one-handed use, which is why I think the 4.7" device will still be called iPhone.  But a 5.6" device is a different beast altogether, even though it will probably make phone / voice calls.  It's in between an iPhone and iPad.  Why not have its own brand?

Too bad this name is already taken¡

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iPhone.

 

iPhone.

 

iPhone.

 

Neither  iPod Touch nor iPad cannot make standard voice calls using towers. I am not talking about VoiP, Skype, FaceTime, etc.that allow calls over WiFi or require an additional data plan. Perhaps you got confused since you don't have a modern or activated iPhone with an actual carrier. Do you have any phone at all capable of making calls not on wifi? Your  "iPhone" is an antique 1st gen  that can't even go beyond iOS 3 which is pretty much next to useless, you claim to hate Android, so that only leaves flip phones. Is that what you have one of those flip phones? 

 

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Neither  iPod Touch nor iPad cannot make standard voice calls using towers. I am not talking about VoiP, Skype, FaceTime, etc.that allow calls over WiFi or require an additional data plan. Perhaps you got confused since you don't have a modern or activated iPhone with an actual carrier. Do you have any phone at all capable of making calls not on wifi? Your  "iPhone" is an antique 1st gen  that can't even go beyond iOS 3 which is pretty much next to useless, you claim to hate Android, so that only leaves flip phones. Is that what you have one of those flip phones? 

That's a major change from your original comment of " any iOS device capable of making voice calls" so you trying to blame someone else for your poor choice of words is just low. My suggestion to you is to apologize and clarify instead of attacking someone for the devices they may use.

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That's a major change from your original comment of " any iOS device capable of making voice calls" so you trying to blame someone else for your poor choice of words is just low. My suggestion to you is to apologize and clarify instead of attacking someone for the devices they may use.

If I had meant to include VoiP, Skype, FaceTime, or other types of calls I would have included that. It is pretty much understood when you are talking about voice calls you mean cellular using towers which neither iPod touch nor iPad can do. Do I real need to define a phone and voice calls?

 

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If the bezels are smaller, than it is now, I will definitely pick up the 5.6' model. This will replace my current Galaxy Note 3 (which I think is the best smart phone on the market at the moment). A BIG screen iPhone will dominate the market without doubt.

How do you define "best smart phone" on the market? It had biggest screen?

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"iPad nano"?

 

"The new iPod touch"?  (Actually, this just might be it.)

 

"iTween"?

 

"The last successful portable gaming console history will ever see"?

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(Off-topic, but has anyone seen China iPod touch sales figures?  Would a 5.6" big-screen iPod touch sell there?

I have a feeling that it wouldn't, but haven't seen any numbers.)

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Yeah, I didn't think I wanted a bigger phone until my partner got a Note 3, and now I realise why all the criticisms of larger phones are bogus. It fits fine in my pocket, I can use it one handed( it even has an option to squish the keyboard to one side for those with tiny hands) and now my iphone seems almost comically little. If Apple doesn't release a larger phone, I will be switching to the Note series next fall.

I wish apple was still competing in this game, but every other company is now offering more for less, and unfortunately a fingerprint scanner and a pretty iOS don't hide it's shortcomings. Don't get me wrong, I love Apple and I am rooting for them, but right now I'm a little disappointed. Hopefully they wow this fall.

What kind of hand you have on? Even though you can use the giant Note 3 on one hand, it doesn't mean other people (90-95% of population) can. It's not about whether the phone can fit in the pocket, but how it fits in the pocket without looking ridiculous. You have a big hand and wear a big jeans to fit a giant phone, but not everyone does. I can fit the iPad mini in my front pocket. Am I okay with that? Hell no.

4.7" screen is a good size for iPhone if Apple can manage the thin bezel. 5.6" screen is a joke imo for a phone. Unless Apple makes the 5.6" device with tremendous features that the smaller version can't do, they may have some markets there. Otherwise, I don't see it possible.

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the iPhone is one of the most famous and recognizable products on the planet. There is zero reason for Apple not to call any iOS device capable of making voice calls anything other than an iPhone regardless of the display size. 

iPad cellular can make voice call with Facetime Audio using cellular tower and it's iOS device.

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What kind of hand you have on? Even though you can use the giant Note 3 on one hand, it doesn't mean other people (90-95% of population) can. It's not about whether the phone can fit in the pocket, but how it fits in the pocket without looking ridiculous. You have a big hand and wear a big jeans to fit a giant phone, but not everyone does. I can fit the iPad mini in my front pocket. Am I okay with that? Hell no.

4.7" screen is a good size for iPhone if Apple can manage the thin bezel. 5.6" screen is a joke imo for a phone. Unless Apple makes the 5.6" device with tremendous features that the smaller version can't do, they may have some markets there. Otherwise, I don't see it possible.

50% of the world are women that tend to use purses to carry their phones. It really wouldn't be that hard to carry a 5.6" iPhone in a purse. And men also seem to manage with the Note III so I am not sure if your criticism is valid for men either. In any event if Apple were to offer such an iPhone it is doubtful they would discontinue a smaller version so it would not effect you. Choice is a good thing. 

 

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iPad can make voice call with Facetime Audio and it's iOS device.

Good luck calling 911 from your iPad if you had a car accident away from wifi. In any event you are a bit late to the party since this was all clarified several posts above. 

 

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post #57 of 153

Darn... I was hoping for something much smaller and lower profile than the current iPhone. Seems to me if folks want bigger, get an iPad. I think a smaller screen size would have many fans...

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If I had meant to include VoiP, Skype, FaceTime, or other types of calls I would have included that. It is pretty much understood when you are talking about voice calls you mean cellular using towers which neither iPod touch nor iPad can do. 

Again you failed to describe it. Facetime audio can be made using cellular tower.

 

Direct from Apple website:

  • *FaceTime over a cellular network requires iPhone 4s, iPhone 5, or iPad (3rd generation) with cellular data capability. Availability over a cellular network depends on carrier policies; data charges may apply."
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Good luck calling 911 from your iPad if you had a car accident away from wifi. In any event you are a bit late to the party since this was all clarified several posts above. 

No, it's not. Not even with 911 call mentioned. Fail to describe is still considered FAILed. Let's move on.

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How do you define "best smart phone" on the market? It had biggest screen?

His market is the "Galaxy S" market.
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Again you failed to describe it. Facetime audio can be made using cellular tower.

 

Direct from Apple website:

  • *FaceTime over a cellular network requires iPhone 4s, iPhone 5, or iPad (3rd generation) with cellular data capability. Availability over a cellular network depends on carrier policies; data charges may apply."

Are you purposely trying to be obtuse? Exactly what term could I have possibly used would satisfy you to the point where there no room for pedantic nit picking hissyfits. Did I need to list and exclude every single type of VoiP including CUseeMe that might run on some emulator? I also left out Google Voice, Yahoo messenger and probably dozens more. How about this, cellular voice calls that use SID and MTSO. Clear now?

 

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone3.htm

 

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post #62 of 153
How many years has a jumbo iPhone rumor been around, how many times has it come true, How many people will use a 5 inch device with one hand, what is point of making phone size of book?
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...executives at the company may not refer to a larger, more premium 5.6-inch model with the existing "iPhone" brand.

iPhablet!

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post #64 of 153
Why not keep the screen the same size but put a convex screen on it that magnifies? Best of both worlds. Smaller form factor, larger appearance. Can I patent it? /s
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Yeah, I didn't think I wanted a bigger phone until my partner got a Note 3, and now I realise why all the criticisms of larger phones are bogus. It fits fine in my pocket, I can use it one handed( it even has an option to squish the keyboard to one side for those with tiny hands) and now my iphone seems almost comically little. If Apple doesn't release a larger phone, I will be switching to the Note series next fall.

I wish apple was still competing in this game, but every other company is now offering more for less, and unfortunately a fingerprint scanner and a pretty iOS don't hide it's shortcomings. Don't get me wrong, I love Apple and I am rooting for them, but right now I'm a little disappointed. Hopefully they wow this fall.

 

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If I had meant to include VoiP, Skype, FaceTime, or other types of calls I would have included that. It is pretty much understood when you are talking about voice calls you mean cellular using towers which neither iPod touch nor iPad can do. Do I real need to define a phone and voice calls? Why are you sticking your nose in this anyway, don't you have some Brits to irritate. Pretty clear that Claudia was a female judges name by the way and instead of saying you were wrong and apologized you doubled down and embarrassed yourself further so I don't think you are in any position to suggest anyone ever apologize. 

 

So, satellite phones aren't "capable of making voice calls?"  Wow.  Didn't know that.  Thanks, man.

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The 3.5 inch screen is the only one that can be easily used with one hand by pretty much everybody.

 

People say that a lot and I still don't get it. What's the supposed benefit of one-handed use? How is this particular characteristic so important that it trumps many other use-case scenarios, not least of which being web browsing that is just slightly less than utterly impossible?

 

Everyone on the train is using two hands regardless of device. Obviously I have no objection to your desire to use your phone with one hand -- whatever works for you is cool with me -- I just don't understand it. What am I missing?

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Why not keep the screen the same size but put a convex screen on it that magnifies? Best of both worlds. Smaller form factor, larger appearance. Can I patent it? /s

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People say that a lot and I still don't get it. What's the supposed benefit of one-handed use? How is this particular characteristic so important that it trumps many other use-case scenarios, not least of which being web browsing that is just slightly less than utterly impossible?

 

Everyone on the train is using two hands regardless of device. Obviously I have no objection to your desire to use your phone with one hand -- whatever works for you is cool with me -- I just don't understand it. What am I missing?

You aren't missing anything. I hold my iPhone with one hand while calling or for very short bursts like looking at a text or checking something quickly but if I use it for more than a minute I tend to naturally gravitate to two handed use as do most people I have observed. People like to mock anecdotal evidence here but I think Apple have already realized this trend as well which is why they plan to do something about it. 

 

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So, satellite phones aren't "capable of making voice calls?"  Wow.  Didn't know that.  Thanks, man.

They certainly can. They are also extremely expensive and extremely rare compared to cellphones that can be bought at Walmart for $15. Only an idiot would use a satellite phone as a daily phone unless they live in the mountains, the desert, antarctica   or some other distant location far away from civilization  without cellphone towers or perhaps they are a spy or have some other specialized usage. The nit pickers are out in full force today. 

 

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So let's recap:

4.1"
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/iphone-5-will-pack-a-3-9-inch-display-or-is-that-4-1-inch-1081667
4.2", 4.8"
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/apple/iphone-6/19670/iphone-6-concepts-show-42-inch-and-48-inch-screens
4.3"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-17/apple-may-delay-introduction-of-iphone-5s-commercial-times-says.html
4.4"
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/10/last_minute_rum.php
4.5", 5"
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/23/apple-to-release-larger-screened-iphones/
4.6"
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401982,00.asp
This article is 4.7", 5.6" (previous article was 5.5")
4.8"
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/22/iphone-6-80211ac/
4.9"
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/11/21/larger-screen-iphone-rumors-continue-with-4-9-inch-iphone-6-iphone-5c-successor/
5.1" (5" was covered earlier)
http://www.cultofmac.com/265682/drool-5-1-inch-iphone-air-edge-edge-retina-display-2/

So if we're not going above 5.6", we've only got 5.2", 5.3", 5.4" left and that's all the possibilities covered. It has to be one of them so now it's time to get some photos.

I'm not sure why these rumors start so early on, the iPhone 6 won't be out for another 7 months. It's time to focus on the Mac. Now will the next iMac have a 27" screen or 31" screen?

You missed my prediction of 4.67" on AppleInsider.
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They certainly can. They are also extremely expensive and extremely rare compared to cellphones that can be bought at Walmart for $15. Only an idiot would use a satellite phone as a daily phone unless they live in the mountains, the desert, antarctica   or some other distant location far away from civilization  without cellphone towers or perhaps they are a spy or have some other specialized usage. The nit pickers are out in full force today. 

 

I didn't say they were cheap or that many people use them.

 

And it's not nit-picking.  You used an incorrect phrase ad people are calling you on it.  Why not just rephrase what you said?

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50% of the world are women that tend to use purses to carry their phones. It really wouldn't be that hard to carry a 5.6" iPhone in a purse. And men also seem to manage with the Note III so I am not sure if your criticism is valid for men either. In any event if Apple were to offer such an iPhone it is doubtful they would discontinue a smaller version so it would not effect you. Choice is a good thing. 
Women wear purses when they go out. What about during at work, at the gym, take a walk? They need to put the phone in the pocket somewhere, dont they? Women wears purses now, and I dont see them chosing big screen phone over current iPhone. Your argument failed.
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People say that a lot and I still don't get it. What's the supposed benefit of one-handed use? How is this particular characteristic so important that it trumps many other use-case scenarios, not least of which being web browsing that is just slightly less than utterly impossible?

Everyone on the train is using two hands regardless of device. Obviously I have no objection to your desire to use your phone with one hand -- whatever works for you is cool with me -- I just don't understand it. What am I missing?
What you're missing is that people prefer to use the phone with one hand most of the times.
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Women wears purses now, and I dont see them chosing big screen phone over current iPhone.

 

My experience completely contradicts that. Based solely on what I see on the bus and SkyTrain in Vancouver, the smaller the woman, the bigger the phone. Seriously. I considered starting a photo demonstration but decided it might be perceived as creepy and get my transit privileges revoked.

 

Women in THIS market absolutely, unequivocally, definitely ARE choosing big screen phones over the current iPhone and are doing so in very healthy numbers, at least according to my admittedly unscientific casual observation. Three or four years ago it seemed like everywhere you looked you'd see only iPhones. Now it seems like there's a much broader mix of brands and sizes. Others who ride Vancouver's SkyTrain will back me up on this.

 

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What you're missing is that people prefer to use the phone with one hand most of the times.

 

I guess either you misunderstood what I wrote or just chose to ignore it. I said I do NOT see people using their phones with one hand. Exactly the opposite. Whether walking around downtown or in the mall, sitting on the train or at the coffee shop, people almost exclusively use two hands. It's extremely rare that I see someone working their phoneputer with just one hand.

 

Don't take my word for it, look around. Because of discussions like this I now actively observe others whenever I'm alone in a crowd. Maybe it's different in other places, but I can't imagine there would be a huge variation in behaviour from one metropolitan area to another. Is there somewhere specific I should be looking?

 

Is it possible that you just like having your other hand free while using your phone so you assume others do too? Because respectfully and honestly, I'm just not seeing the trend you claim.

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So the iPad will get a bigger 12" version iPad Pro as well as a Nano version 5.6" iPad Nano.

But what difference does that make if an iPad can do Phone calls as well?

If anything, Apple may make Facetime Audio the default option. But I wonder why will other people call to Facetime Audio Devices?

Again Zero Bezel will still make a 5" iPhone Possible for one hand use.
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Casting serious doubt upon that report, however, was a claim that the new handsets would feature a pixel density of 441 pixels-per-inch. That number is off by eight pixels, if Apple were to maintain the 16:9 screen aspect ratio currently found on the iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c and iPhone 5.

What does PPI have to do with aspect ratio?

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This post is epically hilarious.  I've saved it for posterity's sake.

 

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You miss my point. I personally will not be buying another iPhone if they do not increase the screen size. Apple will obviously continue to have success. I have a work computer (Macbook Pro) and I have an iPhone. I cannot justify buying an iPad when I feel I should be able to do everything I could do on it on my phone. I want a phone big enough to sit and play games and browse the web and watch videos without having to lug around my work computer or spend even more money on an iPad. Squinting at a 4" screen or constantly having to use two fingers to zoom in and out on every article is annoying as hell.(so much for one handed use) I literally do not use my iPhone unless I absolutely have to, because it's such an annoyance. This is my own personal experience, but I don't think it's unique. I prefer Apple's UI but I want the big screen more than I want a pretty presentation.

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You miss my point. I personally will not be buying another iPhone if they do not increase the screen size. Apple will obviously continue to have success. I have a work computer (Macbook Pro) and I have an iPhone. I cannot justify buying an iPad when I feel I should be able to do everything I could do on it on my phone. I want a phone big enough to sit and play games and browse the web and watch videos without having to lug around my work computer or spend even more money on an iPad. Squinting at a 4" screen or constantly having to use two fingers to zoom in and out on every article is annoying as hell.(so much for one handed use) I literally do not use my iPhone unless I absolutely have to, because it's such an annoyance. This is my own personal experience, but I don't think it's unique. I prefer Apple's UI but I want the big screen more than I want a pretty presentation.

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