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It's got my favorite Android feature of all time: the way so many of them wobble when you try to use them on a surface, because the camera sticks out! Obnoxious. THe 3G was bad enough for that, but a little "peg" is worse--and makes the phone sit with one side higher even when you're not trying to tap. Like when watching a video. Just an awkward and lazy design for a camera--why put it behind the screen where it has to add thickness??
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The Snapdragon 801 (MSM8974AC) is more powerful than the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974).

 

Max CPU frequency:  2.26GHz --> 2.45GHz

Max GPU frequency: 450MHz --> 578MHz

ISP frequency: 320MHz --> 465MHz

Memory interface:  LPDDR3-1600 --> LPDDR3-1866

eMMC interface: 4.5 --> 5.0

 

I'm pretty shocked they didn't cobble together a 64-bit processor (or is this one?)

 

Seems like the sort of thing they would blatantly copy after banging on about how pointless it is if Apple do it.

post #43 of 228

Geez the S5 is going head-to-head with the 5s, that’s going to be hard to avoid mixups!

 

"...you know that S5 fingerthingy si not as good a that from the i5s’s... and those photos the S5sG takes are soooo much better than this S-Hi5-ses’s ones... and don’t get me started on the iG-S5, or is it Si-G5 #@%*?..."

 

For sanity’s sake Apple, we need the iPhone 6 to make things clear ASAP!

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The Snapdragon 801 (MSM8974AC) is more powerful than the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974).

 

Max CPU frequency:  2.26GHz --> 2.45GHz

Max GPU frequency: 450MHz --> 578MHz

ISP frequency: 320MHz --> 465MHz

Memory interface:  LPDDR3-1600 --> LPDDR3-1866

eMMC interface: 4.5 --> 5.0

But Touchwiz is also considerably heavier than the stock android running on the N5, so it's not clear whether the hardware bump will translate to better real-world performance.


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...and the device also has a built-in heart rate monitor that can be used to measure a user's pulse.

But who's gonna read that flatliner after a new owner simply drops dead from finding out how truly crap this phone turned out to be?
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To that end, Samsung has also announced a separate wearable device dubbed the Gear Fit, a smaller wrist-worn accessory that connects with the company's ecosystem of devices.


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As for camera specifications, the Galaxy S5 has a 16-megapixel shooter

Right, because more pixels create better pictures¡
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The Samsung Galaxy S5 is set to launch around the world in April.

First day of the month, I presume.
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16MP in a camera phone is useful?  I'm still waiting on Nikon's latest pro full frame DSLR the D4s.  Wanna guess how many MP that is? 

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Seriously, the iPhone 5s bitchslaps this in every possible metric.

 

besides having a pathetically small (great quality, at least) screen.

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Fun with AC WiFi.
Do you think Samsung have addressed the slow NAND Flash in today phones? You are lucky to get 10Mbyte/80Mbit speed on them.

Fun stuff like that when people wants 150Mbit LTE, 1.3Gbps WiFi, USB3 and so on and the Flash memory is to slow.

One of the main reasons why Apple bought Anobit was to create their own Flash controller. Maybe for iOS. That could lead to a performance breakthrough.

Today it takes upward 30 seconds to load a game on iPadAir. Its the Flash memory that is slow.
With fast NAND Apple can even implement compressed memory like OSX.
post #49 of 228
Is this Samsunginsider of Appleinsider? I could care less about Samcrap products.
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It's very nice to see Samsung avoiding new software gimmicks.  Everything they added this year appears to be useful.
Assuming they work. The Verge didn't have great things to say about the fingerprint scanner. And they said its near impossible to do one handed. That would be a deal breaker for me. What I love about the 5S is I can easily unlock my phone with one hand. Placing my thumb on the home button feels totally natural.

What is brilliant about Apple's approach is that after a while you forget that your home button push action is what is actually unlocking the phone. 

This swipe fingerprint scanner sounds like what they had on some PC laptops years ago. That was a PITA.

 

Not sure what is worse.  To copy someone else's idea, or to try to copy and fail doing it in it's execution.

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Water resistance is one thing I'd like to see Apple jump on board with. I lost a 3GS to the perils of the bathroom.

You're not one of those people that use the urinal while playing with your phone, are you?
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You're not one of those people that use the urinal while playing with your phone, are you?

I once saw an old bloke drop his pipe into the urinal while he was taking a piss.

 

I was somewhat appalled when he picked it out, put it straight back into his mouth and continued smoking away.

 

There's worse things to drop in the urinal than your phone!

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Is this Samsunginsider of Appleinsider? I could care less about Samcrap products.

Then don't read the article.  There are lots of articles I simply have no interest in and don't read.   What's your motivation? 

 

Doctor, it hurts when I read this..  Then don't read that.

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What is brilliant about Apple's approach is that after a while you forget that your home button push action is what is actually unlocking the phone. 
This swipe fingerprint scanner sounds like what they had on some PC laptops years ago. That was a PITA.

Not sure what is worse.  To copy someone else's idea, or to try to copy and fail doing it in it's execution.
Exactly! When I show it to people they're completely underwhelmed. And I tell them that's the point! As Jony Ive would say, it designing something that almost feels undesigned because it's so natural and intuitive.
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Fun with AC WiFi.
Do you think Samsung have addressed the slow NAND Flash in today phones? You are lucky to get 10Mbyte/80Mbit speed on them.

Fun stuff like that when people wants 150Mbit LTE, 1.3Gbps WiFi, USB3 and so on and the Flash memory is to slow.

One of the main reasons why Apple bought Anobit was to create their own Flash controller. Maybe for iOS. That could lead to a performance breakthrough.

Today it takes upward 30 seconds to load a game on iPadAir. Its the Flash memory that is slow.
With fast NAND Apple can even implement compressed memory like OSX.

and here I was thinking NAND's issues are bad blocks and write speed.   We are saying NAND has slow read speeds?  If it's 80Mbit speed for read, it'd say it probably a bit more complicated then simply saying NAND technology is slow.  It probably means they are too cheap to use good HW interfaces, saving pennies where they can. 


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They are not happy on Android forums either. Bad day for the big S.

I think you'd be very surprised at the hatred there is for Samsung on those forums as well.
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post #58 of 228
Yay! a pulse sensor built into the camera, Oh thats right i already have - Heart Rate by Azimo and if your into a pulse app that doesn't even need touch, Cardio from the guys at MIT. I actually thought this was magic, then i wised up. Please Samsung find your own bandwagon and some others might jump on.
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Samsung's next-generation flagship smartphone, the Galaxy S5, was officially announced by the company at the Mobile World Congress trade show on Monday, and the handset will compete head-to-head with Apple's iPhone 5s ...

 

And it looks like an entire year (and counting) will pass before Samsung / Google even attempt 64-bit computing.

I wonder how Samsung's ad agency will spin that unfortunate little fact.

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I won't even start with the "Pleather" case design, or better yet... the "Plaster" band-aid design from a prior post, because the S5 is exactly that, an open wound for Samsung.
 

 

Fixed that for you.

 

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And it looks like an entire year (and counting) will pass before Samsung / Google even attempt 64-bit computing.

I wonder how Samsung's ad agency will spin that unfortunate little fact.

 

Maybe hire Anand Chandrasekher as their marketing guru. I'm sure his looking for a new job by now.

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Samsung is avoiding gimmicks?? Lol what the hell do you need a random pulse tracker for?? So it gave me my pulse then what??

 

That's Samsung being thoughtful on their part.  You know, when you try to unlock their phone using their new fingerprint sensor, over and over again and your blood starts boiling and your heart beats faster as you get more aggravated, the pulse tracker lets you know it's time to step away from the Samsung Galaxy S5 and go into some 'Zen' mode!  Especially valuable for people with heart conditions!

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16MP in a camera phone is useful?  I'm still waiting on Nikon's latest pro full frame DSLR the D4s.  Wanna guess how many MP that is? 

 

6,000,000,000? :)

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I won't even start with the "Pleather" case design, or better yet... the "Plaster" band-aid design from a prior post, because the S5 is exactly that, an open wound for Samsung.
 

 

Fixed that for you.

 

"Pleather." Love it, that's a keeper !

its a Pleather Phablet

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Specs are the fodder of the Windows/Android crew. Does the fracking thing work? Mmmm love that android lag, gives me time to think about how much i hate IOS

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16MP in a camera phone is useful?  I'm still waiting on Nikon's latest pro full frame DSLR the D4s.  Wanna guess how many MP that is? 

 

6,000,000,000? :)

no the upcoming Nikon D4s Pro Full Frame DSLR is also 16MP.

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no the upcoming Pro Full Frame DSLR is also 16MP.

 

The MP thing is just one of those things that people can easily grasp without understanding what it means.  Of course, a 16MP camera with great lenses and a 16MP camera in a phone are two different things.

 

No, I get what you were getting at. 

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Reminds me of the difference between an AK-47 (shoot a billion bullets in that general vicinity, you might hit something, you might not) and an M-16A2 (conserve bullets, more precision, one shot-one kill).

Guess which one's Samsung?
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Samsung is avoiding gimmicks?? Lol what the hell do you need a random pulse tracker for?? So it gave me my pulse then what??

 

That's Samsung being thoughtful on their part.  You know, when you try to unlock their phone using their new fingerprint sensor, over and over again and your blood starts boiling and your heart beats faster as you get more aggravated, the pulse tracker lets you know it's time to step away from the Samsung Galaxy S5 and go into some 'Zen' mode!  Especially valuable for people with heart conditions!

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You may be on to something here.  They might have better luck unlocking it with the heart monitor. 

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I've got 16Mp, i'm gona be on the front page of Reditt in a heartbeat with my shit picture of some spastic cat. Yayyy!!!! Samsung wins!!! Android/Windows bloatware business model will rule the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I haven't read all the posts to this article... so forgive me if I repeat someone else's question.... but....

 

Doesn't it seem of late that Samsung is setting its product roadmap to the voices of the Apple rumour mill?

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And it looks like an entire year (and counting) will pass before Samsung / Google even attempt 64-bit computing.

I wonder how Samsung's ad agency will spin that unfortunate little fact.

 

By upping the RAM to more than 4GB and crapping on about how the Note 4 or S6 is using 64bit properly.

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I've got 16Mp, i'm gona be on the front page of Reditt in a heartbeat with my shit picture of some spastic cat. Yayyy!!!! Samsung wins!!! Android/Windows bloatware business model will rule the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hey!  Don't be dissing "spastic cat" pictures! 

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LTE+WiFi sounds clever, but only makes sense if you have an unlimited data plan.  It'll stick with "slow" unboosted (but "free") WiFi when I'm at home thanks.

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S5? Bad name. Shoulda called it the tackE.

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No mention of their new wrist-worn device?

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S5? Bad name. Shoulda called it the tackE.
It's the 5S backwards. Perhaps they should have just called it the S5 enohPi.

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I haven't read all the posts to this article... so forgive me if I repeat someone else's question.... but....

 

Doesn't it seem of late that Samsung is setting its product roadmap to the voices of the Apple rumour mill?

 

Welcome to 2010.

 

You been living under a rock or sumthink?

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It's very nice to see Samsung avoiding new software gimmicks.  Everything they added this year appears to be useful.

What are you talking about? Did you even read the article?

 

Unlike Apple who spent 400 million on an acquisition and 2 years of development....Samsung fast tracked their copy machine version of a fingerprint sensor and result is garbage. They can now put Fingerprint Scanner as a bullet point and lull people into thinking it "has the same thing as" the iPhone 5S. The truth is nothing of the sort.

 

Pulse tracker? Yeah that will get a lot of use.

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Welcome to 2010.

 

You been living under a rock or sumthink?

I wouldn't say that.... previously Samsung seemed to have been reacting to what Apple was releasing. 

post #80 of 228
I truly like the idea of dust and water resistance. It makes sense. As for the size of the actual device, I wouldn't say 5.1 is too ridiculous in size. Definitely still manageable. I feel that with the Galaxy line of smart phones, it is almost like they put so much effort in jamming features in that they forget that it does all work seamlessly. Not every piece of hardware they add always makes the phone better, it has to have a practical use. I think that they just jam as much as they can in there for pure advertisement and having the right to say "my phone can do all of these things".
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