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It's very nice to see Samsung avoiding new software gimmicks.  Everything they added this year appears to be useful.

What are you talking about? Did you even read the article?

 

Unlike Apple who spent 400 million on an acquisition and 2 years of development....Samsung fast tracked their copy machine version of a fingerprint sensor and result is garbage. They can now put Fingerprint Scanner as a bullet point and lull people into thinking it "has the same thing as" the iPhone 5S. The truth is nothing of the sort.

 

Pulse tracker? Yeah that will get a lot of use.

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Welcome to 2010.

 

You been living under a rock or sumthink?

I wouldn't say that.... previously Samsung seemed to have been reacting to what Apple was releasing. 

post #83 of 235
I truly like the idea of dust and water resistance. It makes sense. As for the size of the actual device, I wouldn't say 5.1 is too ridiculous in size. Definitely still manageable. I feel that with the Galaxy line of smart phones, it is almost like they put so much effort in jamming features in that they forget that it does all work seamlessly. Not every piece of hardware they add always makes the phone better, it has to have a practical use. I think that they just jam as much as they can in there for pure advertisement and having the right to say "my phone can do all of these things".
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And it looks like an entire year (and counting) will pass before Samsung / Google even attempt 64-bit computing.
I wonder how Samsung's ad agency will spin that unfortunate little fact.

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The MP thing is just one of those things that people can easily grasp without understanding what it means.  Of course, a 16MP camera with great lenses and a 16MP camera in a phone are two different things.

 

No, I get what you were getting at. 

 

Also 16MP with big fat, light gathering pixels is going to beat 16MP tiny, crammed in pixels.

 

My Sony N7 has 24, totally useless for emailing etc without editing first.

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Pulse tracker? Yeah that will get a lot of use.

Ironically that's already available for any iPhone with a camera and LED flash via innumerable free apps for years.

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I once saw an old bloke drop his pipe into the urinal while he was taking a piss.

 

I was somewhat appalled when he picked it out, put it straight back into his mouth and continued smoking away.

 

There's worse things to drop in the urinal than your phone!

I hate it that my junk falls in there. 8^)

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Then don't read the article.  There are lots of articles I simply have no interest in and don't read.   What's your motivation? 

 

Doctor, it hurts when I read this..  Then don't read that.

He may be a little thrown off but the Apple in the title of the site that he may have been coming to long before you fell in love with Android or Samsung. Which if they had not copied Apple so blatantly to begin with, you still wouldn't know of them.   

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LTE+WiFi sounds clever, but only makes sense if you have an unlimited data plan.  It'll stick with "slow" unboosted (but "free") WiFi when I'm at home thanks.

 

I'll be waiting for the people who blow out their data plans, "...but, but, I was on WiFi!"

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post #90 of 235
Another watch too?? This one is fitness oriented, thus the moniker: Samsung Fit


It doesn't appear to offer a whole lotta features tho. 1hmm.gif
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LTE+WiFi sounds clever, but only makes sense if you have an unlimited data plan.  It'll stick with "slow" unboosted (but "free") WiFi when I'm at home thanks.

You do pay for that wifi at home I hope.
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post #92 of 235

I rarely comment seriously on a subject as close to world values than this. When i see someone on my commute train with a Samsung i look at them with the same pity as the sad suit choked sad person sitting at the train table with his massive Windows plastic monstrosity, and his mouse and his disbelief. What i have came to understand is that this their reality. They don't know any different. It's like trying to battle creationism with science. You can beat people over the head with honest, well meant help and compassion, if they don't listen, move on. It's called triage. I know that one day i will live in a world with No Religion, No Windows, No android and we'll go on a mission that we may call a Star Trek.

 

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I still see an iPhone 3G every time I see a Galaxy phone from the front. The Sammy apologist will say its rectangles and rounded corners, but if Apple had maintained their same original design for even 3 years, the tech press would have eaten their lunch.  Samsung not only does that but just slightly changes the case and makes it bigger starting with someone else's design and they get applause. It makes no sense, unless of course,  they are paying for their coverage.   

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Here's the Verge's initial take on the finger print scanner:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/24/5441668/samsung-galaxy-s5-announcement-launch
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Less successful is Samsung’s take on the fingerprint-unlock system made popular by Apple with the iPhone 5S. Like the 5S, the S5’s home key features an integrated fingerprint scanner, which can be used to unlock the phone or authenticate purchases online (Samsung is partnering with PayPal to enable this feature, though it doesn’t validate purchases from the Google Play Store). Samsung’s version requires a vertical swipe over the home button to activate the scanner, and we found it to be quite unreliable and virtually impossible to activate when holding the phone in one hand. It can store up to three different digits, but it was very particular about the speed and orientation of the swiping motion used — if we weren’t doing a perfectly straight swipe down, it would refuse to unlock the phone.
 

 

I Already said this would happen, I use the Motorola version of this and it sucked, it does not work well, Plus Motorola did it better the put the scanner on the back of the phone so you can hold it in one hand and look at the display and swipe your finger on the back side.
 

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I hate SameScam with every bone in my body. They are nothing but copycats who use Apple like there own R and D facility to get new ideas. Those guys can't innovate a thing. All they ever do is copy. Like a bigger screen is innovation? Give me a break Samscam!
post #96 of 235
I much prefer Sony's new Z2 to this thing! If I were to go Android that is - which I'm not.
post #97 of 235
I'm sure it's going to be fine, in a PC sort of way. But then that's sort of the problem isn't it.
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I hate SameScam with every bone in my body. They are nothing but copycats who use Apple like there own R and D facility to get new ideas. Those guys can't innovate a thing. All they ever do is copy. Like a bigger screen is innovation? Give me a break Samscam!

 

No, the biggest innovation is that the plastic on the back isn't smooth any more.

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post #99 of 235

An Android pulse tracker sounds like a GREAT thing.  Google can store all your health information and target your ads.

 

Good health = ads for organic food.

Bad health = they notify your insurance company.

Really bad = ads for mortuaries and estate lawyers pop up on the screen.

 

Okay I'm being sarcastic.  But Samsung deserves sarcasm after their recent anti-Apple ads.

 

 

Sarcasm aside, I have a question: Is it not BAD for you to have electromagnetic frequency radiation near your body?

 

My doctor said not to have my iPhone in my POCKET.  So how is it going to be "good health" to wear a computer in watch form that monitors you 24/7?

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And it looks like an entire year (and counting) will pass before Samsung / Google even attempt 64-bit computing.

I wonder how Samsung's ad agency will spin that unfortunate little fact.

 

By upping the RAM to more than 4GB and crapping on about how the Note 4 or S6 is using 64bit properly.

some non-techies may not catch the sarcasm here of the 4GB relationship to the 32 bit address limitation.   Some may not know you need memory address space for memory mapped i/o on ARM.  So 4GB of RAM and 32 bit CPU may seem like a non issue on the surface.

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post #101 of 235
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5.1".... does it come with a wall mount?

Anything bigger and it'll need a VESA mount...

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post #102 of 235
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I hate SameScam with every bone in my body. They are nothing but copycats who use Apple like there own R and D facility to get new ideas. Those guys can't innovate a thing. All they ever do is copy. Like a bigger screen is innovation? Give me a break Samscam!

Better stop buying iPhones and iPads then, because Samsung are in there.

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post #103 of 235

Waterproof and the wifi/LTE combo are the only 2 features that seem appealing. Overall meh...

 

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post #104 of 235
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Samsung is avoiding gimmicks?? Lol what the hell do you need a random pulse tracker for?? So it gave me my pulse then what??

I can't imagine why they needed to include a dedicated pulse monitor.  I have an app on my 4s that uses the existing camera and flash.

post #105 of 235
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Anything bigger and it'll need a VESA mount...

Isn't it the same size as the S4? I thought they kept the dimensions of the actual phone the same even though the display was slightly larger. In fact It is about the same size as the S3 isn't it? 

 

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post #106 of 235
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Water resistance is one thing I'd like to see Apple jump on board with. I lost a 3GS to the perils of the bathroom.

And tbh I'd stick my phone into black and white mode permanently if it made a significant improvement to battery.
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That's something that Apple should copy. In the meantime there's invert colors.
 
I'm curious as to how exactly B&W will save on power with an AMOLED display. They'll save with the black since that requires no power and effectively will be turning off pixels, but you have to power up all 3 RGB pixels to get white, or whatever the pentile configuration requires, maybe they power them down a bit. I guess we'll have to see how effective their scheme will be on a variety of different content. That being said, as long as Apple sticks with backlit LCD displays, there can't be much economy there either since the back light surely must consume a lot more energy than the LCD, especially on a static image.
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I haven't read all the posts to this article... so forgive me if I repeat someone else's question.... but....

 

Doesn't it seem of late that Samsung is setting its product roadmap to the voices of the Apple rumour mill?

 

Welcome to 2010.

 

You been living under a rock or sumthink?

iPilya,

 

you have to excuse hill60.  I think many of us are frustrated by Samsung's typical mode of operation ever since the release of the iPhone.   Probably no excuse for being rude however. 

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post #108 of 235
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I rarely comment seriously on a subject as close to world values than this. When i see someone on my commute train with a Samsung i look at them with the same pity as the sad suit choked sad person sitting at the train table with his massive Windows plastic monstrosity, and his mouse and his disbelief. What i have came to understand is that this their reality. They don't know any different. It's like trying to battle creationism with science. You can beat people over the head with honest, well meant help and compassion, if they don't listen, move on. It's called triage. I know that one day i will live in a world with No Religion, No Windows, No android and we'll go on a mission that we may call a Star Trek.

 

To the future,

 

Children of Earth,

 

xox

Get off your high horse and respect those with religion, windows and android...no need to pity them, Mr. High-n-Almighty.

post #109 of 235
I know I shouldn't be, but I'm honestly shocked. We knew about the 1995 fingerprint scanner, of course, but I expected them to do something—some insane (pseudo)resolution on the screen, maybe (which would be half what it sounds like because of their subtile problem)...but this is just unbelievably...the same. Only uglier. Did I mention uglier?
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I much prefer Sony's new Z2 to this thing! If I were to go Android that is - which I'm not.

I predict you won't need to compare anything to Sony phones soon. They have finally started to exit market in which they are losing money. 

PCs, most TVs and soon I predict phones. 

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Isn't it the same size as the S4? I thought they kept the dimensions of the actual phone the same even though the display was slightly larger. In fact It is about the same size as the S3 isn't it? 

Galaxy S5 (IP67 certified):

  • 142.0 x 72.5 x 8.1 mm
  • 145 g

 

Galaxy S4 Active LTE-A (IP67 certified):

  • 139.7 x 71.3 x 9.1 mm
  • 147 g

 

Galaxy S4:

  • 136.6 x 69.8 x 7.9 mm
  • 130 g

 

Galaxy S3:

  • 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm
  • 133 g
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LTE+WiFi sounds clever, but only makes sense if you have an unlimited data plan.  It'll stick with "slow" unboosted (but "free") WiFi when I'm at home thanks.

 

I'll be waiting for the people who blow out their data plans, "...but, but, I was on WiFi!"

exactly my thoughts here.

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post #113 of 235
The Samsung GS5 also has an integrated bowel movement sensor.
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And it looks like an entire year (and counting) will pass before Samsung / Google even attempt 64-bit computing.
I wonder how Samsung's ad agency will spin that unfortunate little fact.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Yep, that's the fate that usually befalls copyists....

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I truly like the idea of dust and water resistance. 

 

The S4 was waterproof too. Orr...water-resistant...maybe. Anyway, Samsung showed it going into water in their ads. Yay!

 

Except that water damage wasn't covered by warranty. Oops.

 

One wonders if this has changed at all, or if it's same (bull) sh!t, different year.

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Must say I'm not blown away by the S5, not even close. The Ultra Power Saving Mode seems interesting but that's pretty much it. The only interesting thing launched by Samsung in my eyes is the Gear Fit. It looks quite good, we'll have to wait and see how it performs but first impressions are good.

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To Apple fans! why so many comments to this piece of $hit? this crap can't even compete with the iPhone 5

 

 

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Make it bigger, bump up the specs, add a fingerprint reader.  Still no 64-bit CPU, and no metal case.  Lemme guess, the tech press is gonna lap this up as "innovation" because the checklist also includes a heart rate sensor and 64-bit is a "gimmick" until the phone reaches 4 GB of RAM, right?

 

I use a swipe sensor on my company laptop everyday -- it's not even close to what TouchID accomplishes on a mobile device.  Placing a swipe sensor on the home button ensures that probably the majority of buyers won't use the feature or give up because of its awkward ergonomics. 

 

TouchID works because it secures the phone and the regular usage only requires one step. I use a 5s with a car mount, and I can unlock the phone without taking my eyes off the road.  If I had to enter a passcode while driving, I very well might have opted not to secure the phone at all.

 

With the exception of the 5s, the majority of smartphone users don't secure their phones, because entering a passcode or gesture requires an extra step and/or using the phone with two hands.  Samsung hasn't solved anything, other than their marketing problem with this fingerprint reader.  In fact, it might even be a worse design, because at least the rear-facing fingerprint sensors on Motorola and HTC phones can be more easily used with one hand.

 

Also, has Samsung mentioned anything about how the fingerprint image is secured?  We know that Apple stores the fingerprint data in a secure enclave, and takes the extra step of matching each TouchID with a serial number on the A7 SoC.  That Sammobile article from last week mentioned that the fingerprint image will show up on-screen.  For whatever reason, that does not sound especially secure.

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Actually for resolution, screen on GS5 is a downgrade compared to GS4: same 1080p on bigger screen 5.1" vs 5.0". It wouldn't be distinguishable with human eyes anyway, but mentally, it's still a downgrade. I read comments all over non-Apple forums and they cried loud with hate for this marginal upgrade from Samsung, especially fandroids who always love specs and this all the sudden, disappointed them big time.

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And it looks like an entire year (and counting) will pass before Samsung / Google even attempt 64-bit computing.

I wonder how Samsung's ad agency will spin that unfortunate little fact.

 

Guessing they'll just see if its faster than the iPhone 5s, and if so, they'll say "See, 64-bit at this stage just isn't needed in a phone"

 

I think the S5 does mark that phones have officially become 'boring' like desktops.   Newer is faster and nicer.

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