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post #81 of 118
9/10/02 at 11:40am
  • Escher
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My goodness, The Installer is still alive!

[quote]Originally posted by The Installer:
<strong>Now owner of a Canon G2 reporting back here: a terrific little camera that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Little? I guess the G2 is small if you compare it to a D60 or an EOS 1D DSLR. (Oder sollte ich dich nicht woertlich nehmen?)

[quote]<strong>I have now shot over 1,000 pictures with it (some samples can be seen here <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/mac_alain/PhotoAlbum3.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/mac_alain/PhotoAlbum3.html</a> ) and I am extremely happy with it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

There are people of all ages in your pictures. Which generation are you, T.I.? And are you pictured in any of the photos (excluding the one from the Riffelhorn, which we already know)?

Escher

[ 09-10-2002: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
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post #82 of 118
9/10/02 at 2:24pm
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>

There are people of all ages in your pictures. Which generation are you, T.I.? And are you pictured in any of the photos (excluding the one from the Riffelhorn, which we already know)?

Escher

[ 09-10-2002: Message edited by: Escher ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Have you ever eard of the Paterhorn, the father of all mountains Escher ?
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post #83 of 118
9/10/02 at 9:19pm
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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post #84 of 118
9/11/02 at 7:19am
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>My goodness, The Installer is still alive!

There are people of all ages in your pictures. Which generation are you, T.I.? And are you pictured in any of the photos (excluding the one from the Riffelhorn, which we already know)?

Escher</strong><hr></blockquote>May I refer you to this "little" thread of mine <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=000164&p=4" target="_blank">http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=000164&p=4</a> . Check out Table 10

"Little camera" ---&gt; just a turn of phrase, and not really referring to its size.

Bis spaeter dann... Ciao.

- T.I.
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post #85 of 118
9/11/02 at 7:26am
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>My goodness, The Installer is still alive!</strong><hr></blockquote>Oh, I prefer, these days, to mostly post in my own PRIVATE TESTes Area

See also link in above post.

- T.I.
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post #86 of 118
9/12/02 at 6:43am
[quote]Originally posted by The Installer:
<strong>Try putting a thinnish white cotton handkerchief or even a paper one (or in your case a surgical dressing maybe) over the flash and test it.

- T.I.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks for the Tip, TI, I tried in my office today : it worked fine. Funny to think that high end eloctronics stuff like digital camera, still need old good trick to work properly.
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post #87 of 118
9/12/02 at 10:06am
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my Canon G2 tomorrow (Friday the 13th!). After looking at various 4 MegaPixel cameras I liked it the best. It also gets more favorable reviews on various sites then any other camera in its price class ($700). It started out at $999, dropped to $799 earlier this year and is now generally available for $699. Certainly a new model will be coming out eventually, but it has all the features I'd ever want. It isn't too small - small cameras are definately hard to hold and can give fuzzy pictures. I like a little heft in a camera. Anyway, I'll post my reaction after using it and iPhoto (both for the first time).

[ 09-12-2002: Message edited by: MacsRGood4U ]</p>
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post #88 of 118
9/12/02 at 4:08pm
[quote]Originally posted by Powerdoc:
<strong>

Thanks for the Tip, TI, I tried in my office today : it worked fine. Funny to think that high end eloctronics stuff like digital camera, still need old good trick to work properly. </strong><hr></blockquote>I am full of tricks

Just make sure that the handkerchief is clean, Powerdoc

- T.I.
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post #89 of 118
9/12/02 at 4:17pm
[quote]Originally posted by MacsRGood4U:
<strong>I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my Canon G2 tomorrow (Friday the 13th!).</strong><hr></blockquote>If I could suggest that you get a Lenmate <a href="http://www.lensmateonline.com/G2start.html" target="_blank">http://www.lensmateonline.com/G2start.html</a>

It will make holding the camera easier/more comfortable, especially if you wish to look down onto the folded out screen, will protect your lens should you ever knock it against something, and you will be able to put a filter on it, which is a must really.

Oh, and you will of course *not* need a handkerchief for taking flash pictures, like Powerdoc has to

G(2)ood shooting

- T.I.
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post #90 of 118
9/12/02 at 9:48pm
  • Escher
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[quote]Originally posted by The Installer:
<strong>May I refer you to this "little" thread of mine <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=000164&p=4" target="_blank">http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=000164&p=4</a> . Check out Table 10 </strong><hr></blockquote>

I guess I can now claim to have seen The Installer. You lucky bastard made it to Pogue's London appearance (I presume, I doubt he made it to Zermatt). The conversation in your private test area is fascinating. Life must be good commuting between London and Zermatt. I have to look into early retirement. But before that I need to stop rambling.

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post #91 of 118
9/12/02 at 11:57pm
Greetings!

I love my Sony MVC-CD300 camera

Check out my homepage and my nature and outdoor pics.

Best wishes.

Fellowship
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post #92 of 118
9/13/02 at 12:16am
  • Ebby
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I splurged and bought a very expensive D60. 6.3Megapixels :cool:

[practically screaming]
It is a AWESOME camera!
[/practically screaming]

My only complaint is the USB is sooo slow. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> But, I was also shocked by the support Canon has for their cameras. PhotoStitch can merge two or more photos together. <a href="http://www.ssba.com/lad/vacationweb/CAT/catisland.mov" target="_blank">EXAMPLE</a> Remote capture can trigger a snapshot by pressing a button on your computer. And ImageBrowser is a good photo indexing application. (Much like iPhoto)

So, my advice: Get a Canon camera. They are fun to use, and supported by great software.
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post #93 of 118
9/13/02 at 2:50am
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>I guess I can now claim to have seen The Installer. You lucky bastard made it to Pogue's London appearance (I presume, I doubt he made it to Zermatt). The conversation in your private test area is fascinating. Life must be good commuting between London and Zermatt. I have to look into early retirement. But before that I need to stop rambling.

Escher</strong><hr></blockquote>Yes, Pogsie was indeed in London.

I maybe tired, but, alas, I am not re-tired.

In the U.K. hikers are called ramblers, so ramble on, Escher

[quote]The conversation in your private test area is fascinating.<hr></blockquote>I am actually hoping for mod status for that thread

- T.I.
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post #94 of 118
9/13/02 at 4:29am
The Installer:

Thanks for the info on the lenmate. Think I'll order one. Can you reccomend a carry case that holds all the stuff that comes with the camera that isn't too large (or overpriced)? Thanks again.
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post #95 of 118
9/13/02 at 6:25am
[quote]Originally posted by MacsRGood4U:
<strong>The Installer:
Thanks for the info on the lenmate. Think I'll order one.</strong><hr></blockquote>Good man.

I have a "Classic" compact CCS case, although I forget which model. The camera (with the LensMate on) fits in very tightly, but that is o.k. I paid about £15 in the U.K. which is not overpriced considering that it protects my investment very well. <a href="http://www.ccscentre.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.ccscentre.co.uk/</a>

BTW I am in the process of putting together a little folder here with pics that I have taken with the G2 <a href="http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=237337" target="_blank">http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=237337</a>

- T.I.
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post #96 of 118
9/13/02 at 11:38am
[quote]Originally posted by Ebby:
<strong>I splurged and bought a very expensive D60. 6.3Megapixels :cool:

[practically screaming]
It is a AWESOME camera!
[/practically screaming]

My only complaint is the USB is sooo slow. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> But, I was also shocked by the support Canon has for their cameras. PhotoStitch can merge two or more photos together. <a href="http://www.ssba.com/lad/vacationweb/CAT/catisland.mov" target="_blank">EXAMPLE</a> Remote capture can trigger a snapshot by pressing a button on your computer. And ImageBrowser is a good photo indexing application. (Much like iPhoto)

So, my advice: Get a Canon camera. They are fun to use, and supported by great software.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Buy a compact flash reader : it will be much faster.
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post #97 of 118
9/13/02 at 12:39pm
  • Ebby
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Ah, yes. I did and it works perfectly.
:cool:
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post #98 of 118
9/16/02 at 9:58pm
  • Escher
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[quote]Originally posted by The Installer:
<strong>I maybe tired, but, alas, I am not re-tired.</strong><hr></blockquote>

T.I.: I am as curious as ever to know what you do for a living, so that you are able to claim Zermatt as your second home.

[quote]<strong>In the U.K. hikers are called ramblers, so ramble on, Escher</strong><hr></blockquote>

How funny. I didn't know that. I haven't spoken British English since I learned it in Gymnasium in Zurich.

[quote]Originally posted by Ebby:
<strong>Ah, yes. I did and it works perfectly.
:cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Ebby: I hope you bought a FireWire CF card reader. A USB CF card reader would not be worthy of a D60.

The recent crop of relatively inexpensive DSLRs (Canon D60 and Nikon D100) are tempting, but I can't justify their price while I am still finishing up school and living on savings. By next year, I'll hopefully have a good job and will be able to afford the rumored Olydak (Kodak-Olympus) digital SLR, which will have its own system of smaller interchangeable lenses designed specifically for DSLR use (instead of recycled from film SLRs).

BTW: Canon announced the new <a href="http://www.dpreview.com/news/0209/02091605canong3.asp" target="_blank">PowerShot G3</a> (name sound familiar?) on Monday (Sept. 16). It looks pretty good and certainly features a faster lens than the Nikon Coolpix 5000 and 5700 (which would be tempting if it weren't for their slow-as-molasses lenses)

Escher

[ 09-17-2002: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
"The only laptop computer that's useful is the one you have with you."
Until we get a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook, the 12-inch PowerBook will do.
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post #99 of 118
9/18/02 at 3:08pm
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>T.I.: I am as curious as ever to know what you do for a living, so that you are able to claim Zermatt as your second home.

Escher</strong><hr></blockquote>I play the lottery every week, and I just keep on winning

- T.I.
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post #100 of 118
9/18/02 at 3:22pm
I recommend the Sony S75. Just bought one this past week. Great camera! 3.3MP. Carl Zies lense. Manual Overide. Uses memory sticks, which show up as a drive is OS X when the camera is connected! Excelent picture quality. Rich color. Supposed to have one of the longest battey lifes of any digital camera as well. Reviews of this camera were good, and the camera guru at BEST BUY said it was his favorite along with the Canon C30.
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post #101 of 118
9/18/02 at 3:22pm
I wonder if Canon will ever update the Pro90is, or even if they still sell it?

Anyway, courtesy of dpreview, there is a new 5.1MP image sensor out that is the same size as current 4MP sensors (they ar not as big as the 5MP sensors in Nikon's 5000/5700, Minola's Dimage7, Sony's DSC707)

Anyway, this probably means that most of the 4MP camera bodies on the market right now will be updated to 5MP over the next couple of months. Though I wonder if they'll reveal any more detail? In any case, you'll probably be able to find decent discounts on 4MP models for this X-mas season.
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post #102 of 118
9/19/02 at 11:55am
Get the new Nikon 3500! I think it's the best compact 3MP camera...'course it's the newest, which helps
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post #103 of 118
9/19/02 at 1:31pm
I'm still unimpressed with Nikon's budget offerings. The new Canon S230 is a no-brainer for people who only need a 2x zoom..

I'm not sure about Mac compatibility with the new Kyocera cameras, but they have a very tiny 5-megapixel camera coming out.

The better Sony P-Series cameras are quite good.
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post #104 of 118
9/19/02 at 2:22pm
[quote]
I wonder if Canon will ever update the Pro90is, or even if they still sell it?<hr></blockquote>

Nope, it was discontinued last February/March. I was lucky enough to purchase a refurbished model at the time for $580 or so. Love that camera--only 2.6 MP, but with a 10x optical zoom and optical stabilization.

Once the SLR-style D60s, etc. started dropping in price, I think Canon just ceded that segment till the the body drops till $1000 or so--then Canon can sell 'em the lenses, too. I'll buy.
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post #105 of 118
9/19/02 at 2:34pm
I got to check out the PowerShot G3. It seems really nice. It feels much better in your hand than the G2, and the manual focus, though still horrible, seems to be improved.

It also looks much better than the G2. I liked the G1. It had kind of a retro feel about it. The G2 just looks like a bigass APS camera. The G3 looks a little retro again.

I like my cameras to look good.

Especially if I'm paying $800 for them.

If I remember correctly, the G3 goes on sale October 10.

[ 09-19-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</p>
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post #106 of 118
9/19/02 at 2:46pm
I would agree with Timo that if you want objective information you really should check out dpreview.

That said I will proceed to give you my subjective impressions. I recently got married and I asked everyone who brought a digital camera to give me any pictures they took. I don't think there were any of the cameras you specifically are looking at, but there were a couple Nikons (a 990 and a 995), and a couple Elphs (an S100, I forget what the other one was). The Nikons definitely had better color fidelity (and in general better image quality), if that is what is of interest to you. Lets face it, what makes the Elph great is its size; unless you weight that pretty highly it isn't that good a camera.
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post #107 of 118
9/19/02 at 3:12pm
My Canon G2 arrived. I charged the battery, installed the CF card then walked outside. I turned it on to auto and got incredible pictures here in Florida of the greenery and tropical stuff. Loading into iPhoto was automatic. Didn't have to install any drivers. In response to Belle, I like the camera because it looks retro. Has a solid feel like an old rangefinder I had many, many years ago.

The G3 is also nice, has a few more features and costs $200 more. As in everything tech, products change and are improved every year. Canon will keep the G2 (unlike the G1 which the discontinued).
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post #108 of 118
9/19/02 at 7:14pm
[quote]Originally posted by Ebby:
<strong>I splurged and bought a very expensive D60. 6.3Megapixels :cool:

[practically screaming]
It is a AWESOME camera!
[/practically screaming]

My only complaint is the USB is sooo slow. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> But, I was also shocked by the support Canon has for their cameras. PhotoStitch can merge two or more photos together. <a href="http://www.ssba.com/lad/vacationweb/CAT/catisland.mov" target="_blank">EXAMPLE</a> Remote capture can trigger a snapshot by pressing a button on your computer. And ImageBrowser is a good photo indexing application. (Much like iPhoto)

So, my advice: Get a Canon camera. They are fun to use, and supported by great software.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hey, I picked one up too. It arrived at the end of August. And yes, the D60 is awesome. The typical shutter lag for digital cameras is practically non-existant. Still getting some accessories for it, but I at least have some extra batteries, a decent case, 2 Lexar 512 MB CF cards, and two lenses (28-135, and the 100-400). Saving up for the 16-35 lens and a speedlight.

Prior to the D60, I had a Nikon 990. The portability and the pictures were great. My Mom liked it so much, I gave it to her (heh, I needed the excuse to get the D60 anyways).

Here's another URL for folks looking for a review site:

<a href="http://www.steves-digicams.com/" target="_blank">Steves-Digicams</a>

He's pretty thorough, and reviews almost all the digital cameras.
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post #109 of 118
9/19/02 at 7:42pm
Canon just announced the Digital Elph S230, coming out in October for $499. 3 megapixels and extremely compact. Might be worth considering.
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post #110 of 118
9/20/02 at 12:55pm
Canon G2 640th sec. @ 6.3 exposure: -1/3 50 ISO 20.3mm full frame



Looking towards the Trift Gorge, Zermatt, Switzerland

[ 09-20-2002: Message edited by: The Installer ]</p>
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post #111 of 118
9/20/02 at 1:40pm
I like it. Are we allowed to like landscapes now? I think that's still poo-poo in the critical world. It's not Ansel Adams, but then what is? A little photoshopping might bring out a hint more depth, maybe some gradients to simulate a very slight vignetting (like through an old pin-hole camera)
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post #112 of 118
9/20/02 at 2:44pm
Very nice! I assume that is you on the right and your child on the left. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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post #113 of 118
9/20/02 at 4:44pm
The only thing I don't like about Steves-Digicams.com = his sample photos. I can only stand *so many* pics of Werther's Originals in a bowl, an M&M holding a football and sea kayaks.

Phil Askey's site is still tops for me. Steve's is next.

Imaging-Resource comes in third.
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post #114 of 118
9/21/02 at 4:40am
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>It's not Ansel Adams...</strong><hr></blockquote>
It is now



- T.I.
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post #115 of 118
9/21/02 at 5:23am
I prefer the white and black version TI

The G2 is just one year old, and a new one has replaced it the G3.
Next year there will be a G4
But don't worry : there will never be any G5
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post #116 of 118
9/21/02 at 5:47am
[quote]Originally posted by Powerdoc:
<strong>I prefer the white and black version TI </strong><hr></blockquote>Well, that is the original version. I coloured in the other one by hand

G3, G4, G5... I'm not interested. BTW you wanna buy my G2?

Anyway, it's the weekend, and you should be out and about (with your G1)

- T.I.
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post #117 of 118
9/21/02 at 5:51am
Very nice.
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9/21/02 at 5:53am
[quote]Originally posted by MacsRGood4U:
<strong>Very nice! I assume that is you on the right and your child on the left. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>The things some people come up with... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

But you are right.

- T(roll*).I(con).

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