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Rumor: Apple to phase out last non-Retina MacBooks with CD/DVD drive this year

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Apple's remaining low-end 13-inch MacBook Pro model, which features a thicker legacy design and continues to sport an internal optical drive, may finally be on the way out this year, if the latest supply chain rumors are to be believed.

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Apple's 13" non-Retina MacBook Pro. | Source: Apple


The new claims come from the infamous DigiTimes, which once again on Wednesday cited its usual, anonymous Taiwan-based supply chain sources. According to those people, Apple will stop production of the 13-inch non-Retina MacBook Pro in the second half of 2014, replacing the lineup with thinner models featuring high-resolution Retina displays.

"The sources pointed out that Apple has been reducing its MacBook Pro prices, narrowing the price gap between the MacBook Pro and the one equipped with Retina," the report said. "Apple stopped producing the 15-inch MacBook Pro in 2013 and will end production of its 13-inch model in 2014."

While DigiTimes does have a notorious track record for being the source of questionable Apple-related rumors, the writing has been on the wall for the 13-inch legacy MacBook Pro for some time. Apple has continued to offer the models along side its newer Retina models, which feature a thinner design, only solid-state storage, and lack optical disc drives.

While Apple may finally discontinue its previous-generation portables, the company may also expand its lineup with an entirely new high-resolution notebook this year. Well-connected insider Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities believes Apple is planning to introduce a new 12-inch MacBook model this year.

According to Kuo, the entirely new MacBook will feature an "ultra-slim clamshell form factor" that he views as a marriage between the portability of the 11-inch MacBook Air and the superior productivity of the 13-inch model. The display is also said to be on par with Apple's high-resolution MacBook Pro Retina display.

Kuo believes the new MacBook will be powered by an Intel processor, not a custom ARM chip as has been rumored. He has predicted that the incoming model, which would expand the MacBook lineup, will "redefine laptop computing once again following the milestone created by the MacBook Air."

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In some ways this kinda sucks, but then again I can see why Apple would want to shrink its product line up and move people to the MBP retina. It would be nice to see the MBP Retina at the same price points as the non-retina one eventually. 

 

I love my 15" MBP with the optical drive. I still need one and don't really want to carry around an external one. Plus I like having the ports I need on the side and not 20 dongles coming off it to give it the same functionality. I just threw an Intel 180GB SSD in it and its like a brand new laptop. 

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I just want the 17" to come back.
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About Tim.
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I am sure this will be the case. RIP. The thicker design had a huge advantage for those of us that love to tinker. Despite having a new 2013 Mac Pro, I'm keeping my old MBP 15" till it drops to bits. I love it as my ''go to' computer and in truth use far more than my iPad Air. For the last year I have an .5 TB SSD and a 1TB HD after ripping out its optical which is in an external case now. This year maybe I go all SSD. Thanks to Apple Care it also had a new motherboard last year so it should last a long time. That all said I guess the new Airs are amazing I just don't need one ... yet ...
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Its all about the upgradeability.  I believe most could not care less about the SuperDrive being built it. 

I would be all over a Macbook Pro retina if I could service basic parts like the RAM and Drive.   

If you are a person that needs 1TB of storage, the Macbook Pro retina is unaffordable for most people.    A 1TB 7200RPM for the non-retina runs about $80.   A 1.5TB 5400RPM for the non-retina runs about $120.        And the argument of external storage is laughable.  Why would I want a 3mm thinner laptop just so I could carry around a portable drive?  NO! 


A 16GB RAM, 1TB 7200RPM Non-retina 13" Macbook Pro can run you less than $1400.   The cheapest 13" retina model with 16GB (soldered) RAM and 1TB SSD is $2499 + TAX

A 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD Non-retina 13" Macbook Pro can run you less than $1800.    Either way, you save a TON of money.  

Apple can produce a retina Macbook Pro that is upgradeable but 2-3mm thicker.   EASY!!     Financially for Apple, they prefer your system have little resale value, require THEIR overprices "Geniuses" have to repair it, and force the system to obsolescence earlier and earlier.

Its a money grab and/or its Apple designers with a one track mind.  Make it thinner at any cost of usefulness.

VERY VERY Frustrated with Apple.

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I was hoping for a Retina Air 13" this year, but this rumored 12" MBP may be even better...

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Its a money grab and/or its Apple designers with a one track mind.  Make it thinner at any cost of usefulness.

I think they are just skating to where the puck is going rather than where it is. Apple have knowledge of component supplier roadmaps and they probably know 1TB SSDs will be much cheaper in 6 months, that why the HD-based Macbook Pro is hanging around another 6 months (according to this article).

 

It's the same with the new Mac Pro, people complain that the case doesn't have the internal expandability or cooling of a bigger (mini tower or tower) case, but CPU and GPU makers are more focussed on power efficiency now, not clock speed increases, so from a cooling perspective, they are just skating to where the puck is going. In 6 months to a year, today's thicker laptop and bigger workstation designs will look a poor match for available components.

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If only they could find way to add a Kensington-type hole in the chassis to protect it. I just can't imagine leaving my 2000-3000$ MBP on my desk without a lock, and I can't put it in a drawer every time I need to leave for 2 minutes... And those bulky security solutions are just inadequate...
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Glad I purchased the 13 in pro last year. Still use optical drive and love large hard drive. Will upgrade memory and new Ssd later on.
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If only they could find way to add a Kensington-type hole in the chassis to protect it. I just can't imagine leaving my 2000-3000$ MBP on my desk without a lock, and I can't put it in a drawer every time I need to leave for 2 minutes... 

 

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Its about time.  Nobody needs CD players anymore.  i'm glad Apple is going to get rid of them.

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Why not work somewhere that isn’t staffed by kleptomaniacs?

Cool it! He has a point. Prior to purchasing my 2013 RMBP I would use my Kensington lock to secure my 2010 MBP to the table at coffee shops where I like to study. One could probably have removed it from around the base of the table if they tried but it would have been clumsy and obvious, and taken more time than it took me to use the bathroom. Now I don't have that option so instead of packing everything up for a pee break I simply trust those around me.


PS: Does anyone else find it weird we ask strangers or are asked by strangers to watch their stuff? I always say sure but at the same time I don't want the pseudo-responsibility and I'm sure if a different person walked up and said "thanks" most of the time I wouldn't know it was a different person.

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Its about time.  Nobody needs CD players anymore.  i'm glad Apple is going to get rid of them.

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It's a shame they don't keep it around and throw in a fusion drive, I think it'd be a compelling buy that way for a lot of people.

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Its about time.  Nobody needs CD players anymore.  i'm glad Apple is going to get rid of them.

 

That’s what I thought when I bought my late 2013 iMac14,2. Less than six months later I have purchased a Superdrive. Archiving purchased DVDs and converting them to format for iTunes and AppleTV kinda requires one. Same goes for ripping audio CD collections into iTunes. So does burning a disc for people with legacy hardware and a slow broadband connection.

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Awesome! Now they can use that place on the website to sell a useful product like a bigger iPhone. While you are at it, kill the mini too. Focus Apple.

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In some ways this kinda sucks, but then again I can see why Apple would want to shrink its product line up and move people to the MBP retina. It would be nice to see the MBP Retina at the same price points as the non-retina one eventually. 

 

I love my 15" MBP with the optical drive. I still need one and don't really want to carry around an external one. Plus I like having the ports I need on the side and not 20 dongles coming off it to give it the same functionality. I just threw an Intel 180GB SSD in it and its like a brand new laptop. 

Market research of one.    The "Where the puck will be" of laptops  is pretty much 2 USB3.0, WiFi (Wireless Cell would be nice... but I think Apple's master plan is to make your iPhone that $99 Tethering MiFi), Thunderbolt, and a power cord.   The differentiator between Air and Pro will be screen resolution, and CPU/Memory/SDD options

 

And you're smart enough to upgrade in place...  So why should Apple build a production line around a system that no one really needs (since you are even able to extend your current system to meet your needs)?  

 

It's one of those "1000 no's" that Apple has to deal with.   Or maybe not...  As it's just a rumor to keep Digitimes (and AI) readers clicking through ads

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That’s what I thought when I bought my late 2013 iMac14,2. Less than six months later I have purchased a Superdrive. Archiving purchased DVDs and converting them to format for iTunes and AppleTV kinda requires one. Same goes for ripping audio CD collections into iTunes. So does burning a disc for people with legacy hardware and a slow broadband connection.

The former requirements is your cost of conversion to the internet model Apple aspires to.

 

The market in the next three years in laptops is targetted for people leaving home, and likely spent the last 3 years buying their music over the net.  No conversion needed.

 

Your latter requirement is paying for the inadequacies of your 'people.'   Shame them into upgrading!!!! ;-)


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About Tim.

What about him? I guess you're posting from your phone and it auto-corrected time minus the 'e' with a capital. But yeah it is about time that Tim dropped the entry MBP.
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I like having the ports I need on the side and not 20 dongles coming off it to give it the same functionality
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Apple can produce a retina Macbook Pro that is upgradeable but 2-3mm thicker. EASY!! Financially for Apple, they prefer your system have little resale value

One thing that defines Apple's innovative approach to technology is their willingness to abandon legacy. Microsoft is only dropping support for Windows XP in April after 12 years, floppy drives are still being sold on Amazon and people are still buying them, Blackberry still sells phones with physical keyboards.

SATA is legacy because it's too slow, Firewire is legacy because it's too slow, 1 Gigabit ethernet is useful but most people use wifi and wifi will reach 1 gigabit too and for the odd time a cable is required, a simple USB or Thunderbolt adaptor will do the job - given that the SD slot is a bit slow, an extra USB 3 port would be better but whatever. Replaceable RAM is a price issue, the idea being 'I want Apple to give me RAM slots because I don't want to pay Apple's RAM prices'. Their RAM isn't really overpriced any more anyway for typical amounts. 16GB on Crucial is $172, Apple charges $200. They are switching to DDR4 soon so having the slots is not much of an advantage.

The reason to abandon legacy items is simple - if they didn't, people would keep using them and letting go just gets harder. People using SATA drives doesn't push down the cost of SSD drives, it maintains demand for platter drives and keeps their prices more attractive. Drives with moving parts aren't suitable for laptops, one drop and they can break.

We have to go through the aches and pains of dealing with high prices and upgrade issues just now but as we've seen in the past, it all blows over in time and it moves faster when everyone adopts the new technology.

If Apple is going to drop the old MBP, maybe the whole rMBP lineup can drop $100.

I could see them scrapping the 11" and 13" Air for a single 12". If they make it a Retina model, that would be interesting but to maintain the price, I'd guess it will be a TN panel. I'd like to see it with a black bezel and laminated glass but that might add to the weight. 15" option would be good too.

The 'Air' moniker is a bit redundant now so maybe they'll go with Retina Macbook next.
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Be careful with absolutes.

Be careful with trying imagine that 'everyone's wants' are required to be met.    

 

I drive a skid steer catapillar for work.  Why can't I have that steering interface on my Porsche Cayenne?  

 

I want it, because that's how I learned to drive.  I'm willing to pay for it, if it's built in! 

 

If you don't, then it's Porsche's fault not to meet my car driving needs, and forcing all other car manufacturers to 'race to the bottom' in taking out that input device.  

 

Oh, I know I can install a skid steer on my own, or buy a bobcat for my commute... but Porsche... come on... don't you realize _EVERYONE_ still wants a skid steer Cayenne?

 

Sound Stupid?

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That’s what I thought when I bought my late 2013 iMac14,2. Less than six months later I have purchased a Superdrive. Archiving purchased DVDs and converting them to format for iTunes and AppleTV kinda requires one. Same goes for ripping audio CD collections into iTunes. So does burning a disc for people with legacy hardware and a slow broadband connection.

That shows a shortcoming in your ability to analyze your own hardware needs for the common functions that you personally use your computer for. You'll want to improve that if you wish to make better purchasing decisions in the future.

 

I bought a portable Blu-ray drive for my MacBook Air 2013; it has never left the house because I don't rip discs on the road. Of course, that option remains available, but I'm happier that I have an ultra-slim notebook computer that doesn't have an optical drive that remains unused 99.9% of the time.

 

Apple is wise to get rid of their own built-in optical disc drives and just let individual users opt for external peripherals.

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I could see them scrapping the 11" and 13" Air for a single 12". If they make it a Retina model, that would be interesting but to maintain the price, I'd guess it will be a TN panel. I'd like to see it with a black bezel and laminated glass but that might add to the weight. 15" option would be good too.

The 'Air' moniker is a bit redundant now so maybe they'll go with Retina Macbook next.

Moving the MBA to a single, 12" model makes a lot of sense to me, but I would think they would also finally move it to Retina and IPS.

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Leave the optical drive at home! But if you do need it on the go, Apple's external is tiny. For that rare need, it's doable.

I would like to see Kensington slots return--they have their uses.
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I would like at least 1TB of HD storage. That will cost me $3K in a current gen MBP 15. I needs to be <$2K. Errr..
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Great. May be this indicates the phase out of MBA nonRetina and introduces the MBA retina in H2 2014
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Its all about the upgradeability.  I believe most could not care less about the SuperDrive being built it. 
This is true, Optical drives just aren't a big deal anymore for the majority of users.
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I would be all over a Macbook Pro retina if I could service basic parts like the RAM and Drive.   
You can service the drive, the SSD just plugs in. For RAM you are trading reliability for upgradeability. Frankly my experience with laptops is to favor reliability in the design.
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If you are a person that needs 1TB of storage, the Macbook Pro retina is unaffordable for most people.    A 1TB 7200RPM for the non-retina runs about $80.   A 1.5TB 5400RPM for the non-retina runs about $120.        And the argument of external storage is laughable.  Why would I want a 3mm thinner laptop just so I could carry around a portable drive?  NO! 
Realistically if you need an external drive most likely you will never have a suitable internal drive. We are talking about laptops here, but I've yet to see a shipping laptop drive that is big enough. In the end you have to rely upon external storage.

I will give you this though, I do believe Apple made a mistake in not supplying the 15" MBP with an additional SSD slot. Even with two slots getting enough space wouldn't be cost effective but even a little bit of additional fast storage can go a long ways.
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A 16GB RAM, 1TB 7200RPM Non-retina 13" Macbook Pro can run you less than $1400.   The cheapest 13" retina model with 16GB (soldered) RAM and 1TB SSD is $2499 + TAX
A 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD Non-retina 13" Macbook Pro can run you less than $1800.    Either way, you save a TON of money.  
We will see what happens with the new hardware this year. I believe Apple learned its lesson early in 2013 with excessively high prices. I can see them becoming more aggressive with the 2014 round of updates. Especially considering that Intel is rumored to be behind the eight ball delivering new tech.
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Apple can produce a retina Macbook Pro that is upgradeable but 2-3mm thicker.   EASY!!     Financially for Apple, they prefer your system have little resale value, require THEIR overprices "Geniuses" have to repair it, and force the system to obsolescence earlier and earlier.
Except for the fact that nothing you stated above is true. Apples hardware continues to maintain resale value, you aren't required to have Apple repair anything, and system obsolescence with Apple hardware is no where near as bad as it is in the rest of the PC industry.
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Its a money grab and/or its Apple designers with a one track mind.  
It is about Apple meeting consumer needs. If they didn't do that their sales would suffer and this sight might turn into Linuxinsider.
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Make it thinner at any cost of usefulness.
VERY VERY Frustrated with Apple.
You are looking very silly here. The simple fact that Apple is having great success with the laptop line invalidates your position. You need to look towards the future not the past.
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Its about time.  Nobody needs CD players anymore.  i'm glad Apple is going to get rid of them.

 

I need one...use it a lot actually at work. 

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Why not work somewhere that isn’t staffed by kleptomaniacs?

 

Why not just not respond unless you have something useful to add instead of sounding like an asshole every time you post. 

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Be careful with trying imagine that 'everyone's wants' are required to be met.

Be careful assuming Apple is trying to be all things to all people.

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I would like at least 1TB of HD storage. That will cost me $3K in a current gen MBP 15. I needs to be <$2K. Errr..

Yeah, and yet they still sell the iPod Classic.

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Why not just not respond unless you have something useful to add instead of sounding like an asshole every time you post. 

 

Yeah, I’m sure it’s not psychotic to continue working somewhere you can’t leave your possessions alone for two minutes¡ Keep living that dream.

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I don't give a damn about the optical drive, but it'd be nice to see a workhorse non-Retina Macbook in the middle, that's a little bit thicker and heavier, but comes with mega battery life.  Retina is great, but performance and battery is better.

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Yeah, I’m sure it’s not psychotic to continue working somewhere you can’t leave your possessions alone for two minutes¡ Keep living that dream.

I'm not sure there's anywhere short of a private home office where I'd feel comfortable just leaving a £1,000+ easily baggable machine on display.  I'm sure it'd be fine 99.9% of the time, but it only takes one 0.1% to have your day ruined.

 

Plus, as someone else mentioned, it's not just workplaces; laptops get taken everywhere and a Kensington lock is a nice and flexible bit of added (not infallible, but nothing is) security.

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Its all about the upgradeability.  I believe most could not care less about the SuperDrive being built it. 

I would be all over a Macbook Pro retina if I could service basic parts like the RAM and Drive.   

If you are a person that needs 1TB of storage, the Macbook Pro retina is unaffordable for most people.    A 1TB 7200RPM for the non-retina runs about $80.   A 1.5TB 5400RPM for the non-retina runs about $120.        And the argument of external storage is laughable.  Why would I want a 3mm thinner laptop just so I could carry around a portable drive?  NO! 


A 16GB RAM, 1TB 7200RPM Non-retina 13" Macbook Pro can run you less than $1400.   The cheapest 13" retina model with 16GB (soldered) RAM and 1TB SSD is $2499 + TAX

A 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD Non-retina 13" Macbook Pro can run you less than $1800.    Either way, you save a TON of money.  

Apple can produce a retina Macbook Pro that is upgradeable but 2-3mm thicker.   EASY!!     Financially for Apple, they prefer your system have little resale value, require THEIR overprices "Geniuses" have to repair it, and force the system to obsolescence earlier and earlier.

Its a money grab and/or its Apple designers with a one track mind.  Make it thinner at any cost of usefulness.

VERY VERY Frustrated with Apple.


You are in an ever-dwindling minority.  I "used" to be in that same group of wanting a serviceable machine.  It got old.  The reality (for me and many others) is that by the time it comes to service or upgrade something, the tech has become rather old that it just made sense to go with a more modern machine.  Sure, there are people that will spin that to say Apple is just locking you into an upgrade cycle every couple years but I was doing that with non-Apple machines too.

Whether you like it or not, Apple will not (nor should they) cater to the < 1% of folks that want a fully serviceable machine.  It does not make financial sense.  Apple's laptops are rock-solid reliable nowadays and with everything going solid-state, it will become even more reliable.

So if it means you have to spend an extra 30 minutes to crack open a laptop to replace a hard drive that - realistically - you'll only remove/replace every couple years... well cry me a river.

Thinner, lighter, reliable... I'll take any day, and the market obviously reflects that.
 

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I'm not sure there's anywhere short of a private home office where I'd feel comfortable just leaving a £1,000+ easily baggable machine on display.  I'm sure it'd be fine 99.9% of the time, but it only takes one 0.1% to have your day ruined.

 

Plus, as someone else mentioned, it's not just workplaces; laptops get taken everywhere and a Kensington lock is a nice and flexible bit of added (not infallible, but nothing is) security.

 

Now now...don't overload him with useful information. He might have something negative to say...oh wait!

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PS: Does anyone else find it weird we ask strangers or are asked by strangers to watch their stuff? I always say sure but at the same time I don't want the pseudo-responsibility and I'm sure if a different person walked up and said "thanks" most of the time I wouldn't know it was a different person.

I’ll remember not to ask you to look after my stuff. ;)

 

When we ask someone to look after our stuff, we have already made lots of decisions about that person and how trustworthy we think they are.

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It's a shame they don't keep it around and throw in a fusion drive, I think it'd be a compelling buy that way for a lot of people.

I'd consider one with a 3TB Fusion drive. Nothing less.

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Why not just not respond unless you have something useful to add instead of sounding like an asshole every time you post. 

The world would be a very dull place if you could only add something useful. I, for one, found TS's post very funny.

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Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

When we ask someone to look after our stuff, we have already made lots of decisions about that person and how trustworthy we think they are.

Sure. We already know they aren't likely to be able to leave quickly if they have their stuff out and in my case they see I have a nicer computer than there and, of course, a wealthy big penis.

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"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

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