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Microsoft is reportedly preparing to ship a new version of its Office for Mac productivity suite later this year in what would be the first major update to the software in nearly four years.

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Thorsten H?bschen, the Microsoft executive who oversees Office in Germany, revealed the software giant's plans at this week's CeBIT computer industry show in Hanover. German trade publication Computerwoche was first with the news.

Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft disbanded its Mac business unit soon after the most recent version of the suite, Office:Mac 2011, hit shelves in 2010. H?bschen said that internal reorganization at Microsoft has resulted in a renewed push for cross-platform versions of Office, and that the company was already speaking to enterprise customers about the new Mac edition.

Office for Mac's relative lack of updates compared to its Windows counterpart has caused concern among business users in recent years. Apple has completely revamped its competing iWork suite in the interim in what some have pegged as an effort to reduce Office's role as a killer app for Macs in the workplace.

There was no word from H?bschen on Microsoft's plans for a version of Office tailored for Apple's iOS, where it remains conspicuously absent. Microsoft insider Mary Jo Foley reported last month that an iPad edition was on the way, but others have indicated that Microsoft scrapped the idea as part of a strategy designed to entice users toward tablets running Windows.
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Long-awaited...by whom?

 

Also... "Thorsten H?bschen"? I'd like to legally change my name to include random punctuation.

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about time.
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Unless Excel offers me a Monte Carlo simulation plug-in, I am unlikely to be interested in upgrading.

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Quality isn't expensive... it's priceless.

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If Microsoft shoehorn's this as a subscription-only software... I'll stick with my 2011 3-pack license thank you.

Paying a subscription to use basic-office programs in nothing short of extortion.
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Too late MS; already moved over to iWork. It's different, but works as advertised.
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What is MicroSoft ? What is Office ?

 

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The only enhancement I'm looking for is more speed. Excel can be slow operating on 10k row spreadsheets. Even simple operations (copying filtered data, inserting / dropping rows/columns) take too much time.
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I'm thinking a lot of people already switched to iWork. Not only can you use this on your Mac, but also any iOS device AND, you can sync all of your things with iCloud for easy access between Macs and iOS devices. I think the current iWork suite is adequate for most people's needs. Maybe not the hard core Office people, but a general everyday user its more than adequate.

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The only enhancement I'm looking for is more speed. Excel can be slow operating on 10k row spreadsheets. Even simple operations (copying filtered data, inserting / dropping rows/columns) take too much time.

Hear hear. Dog slow, on whatever Mac you run Excel on. And not even on 10k rows; it's dog slow on just 2,000 lines. Without any formulas! Go figure! (that's you MS; go figure)
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It may be slow and it may be from Microsoft but it's advanced functionality and it's wide adoption in business makes it (still) irreplaceable for serious business work.
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I eagerly await a new version of Office.  iWork is crap for my needs and I don't like that Mail can't get exchange mail pushed to it.  The most frequent you get is to check each minute.  

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It may be slow and it may be from Microsoft but it's advanced functionality and it's wide adoption in business makes it (still) irreplaceable for serious business work.

Only if you equate mainstream, corporate as 'serious' business work. I consider my work serious and it is definitely business (well, its my business and it makes my money). But iWork will (in all likelihood) a 'power suite' with all the bells and whistles. When iWork came out I couldn't get my head around it. Now I love it and never use Office. It took a few years. 

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Long-awaited...by whom?

 

Business users it would seem. There are a lot of them out there and they don’t care about iWork, or Open Office, or whatever other workalike kludge is available. They want Office because that’s the way it’s always been done. Sad but true.

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I eagerly await a new version of Office.  iWork is crap for my needs and I don't like that Mail can't get exchange mail pushed to it.  The most frequent you get is to check each minute.  

the market bellweather of one ('my needs').  The other 100Million people who may or may not need Word/Excel/PPT/Entourage  on their Mac probably have different criteria. 

 

Microsoft not creating updated Mac versions, and releasing an iOS version are losing casual user when they buy their first iPad.   If they get them hooked on office on the mac/ipad, there is a fighting chance for them to buy Windows, and maybe even a Surface.  If not, the masses will leave Office, and and windows will evaporate, except for who think in VBA, and talk about the glory days like COBOL and FORTRAN programmers do now.

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Dear Mister Microsoft Office Product Manager, Please Please Please do not make any more updates.  Office 2007 stinks.  Office 2010 stinks.  And I hear Office 2013 stinks worst of them all.  Please please please no more button, no more stupid bar.  Please bring back the User Interface of Office 2003. 

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I wonder if they'll offer a cross-platform sales deal? As in, if you own Office for Windows, you automatically get a copy of Office for Mac too?

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It may be slow and it may be from Microsoft but it's advanced functionality and it's wide adoption in business makes it (still) irreplaceable for serious business work.

 

iWork being free on new systems will help businesses stay off of Office.

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Like all business users I don't personally pay for it...

BUT, and this is a big one, I need Visual Basic in Excel. That is why stepped over the previous version of Office to the current one, and that is why I won't be using Open Office or any other similar application. Lots of users are in the same position.

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Too late MS; already moved over to iWork. It's different, but works as advertised.
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didn't want to underestimate anyones work. I am sure there are business cases that all the spreadsheet work can be done on iwork. Sure..

 

Let me put it this way.. the vas majority of analysts and finance people in Apple work on excel... I think this perfectly clarifies my point. :)

 

I have said it before and I will say it again. I want apple to improve on their iwork suite (and preferably on the cloud cause thats where everything is headed) and fast. I much prefer google docs than anything nowadays. And its been around for 3 years now.. something like that.

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. . . ship a new version of its Office for Mac productivity suite later this year . . .

one of the differentiators i first noticed betwixt ms and apple was that ms announced products and shipped them 'later this year' or 'next year'. apple announced products and shipped them immediately or very soon after announcement. that's still true. i think the original iphone was the first time i noticed a significant gap between announce and ship for an apple product, and justifiably so, imho. ms should change their corporate slogan to "coming soon ..."
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... and talk about the glory days like COBOL and FORTRAN programmers do now.

Ahhh, FORTRAN...

*sigh*

 

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Microsoft not creating updated Mac versions, and releasing an iOS version are losing casual user when they buy their first iPad.   If they get them hooked on office on the mac/ipad, there is a fighting chance for them to buy Windows, and maybe even a Surface.  If not, the masses will leave Office, and and windows will evaporate, except for who think in VBA, and talk about the glory days like COBOL and FORTRAN programmers do now.

 

You had me at COBOL....

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one of the differentiators i first noticed betwixt ms and apple was that ms announced products and shipped them 'later this year' or 'next year'. apple announced products and shipped them immediately or very soon after announcement. that's still true. i think the original iphone was the first time i noticed a significant gap between announce and ship for an apple product, and justifiably so, imho. ms should change their corporate slogan to "coming soon ..."

 

You must be young. Microsoft was the inventor of "Vaporware" in the 1980s. This announcement is one of the latest in a long history of announced Microsoft Vaporware. Only the U.S. government comes close to Microsoft is quantity during an election year.

 

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The only enhancement I'm looking for is more speed. Excel can be slow operating on 10k row spreadsheets. Even simple operations (copying filtered data, inserting / dropping rows/columns) take too much time.

Agreed. Even smaller spreadsheets, with only a few 1000 rows, once charted can take many seconds to load and update. Its MUCH faster than the previous office for Mac, however its still much faster to load and change the data in the files within MS office 2003, running under Parallels. That's quite sad really.

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The killer feature of the new iWork suite is it's 100% file compatibility with all iOS devices- and more features are constantly being added. Office runs like a dog on a Mac. Sure, it's good to have, but for most people I think iWork is now much more useable, especially with cross compatibility. Oh, and the fact that it's FREE. 

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The killer feature of the new iWork suite is it's 100% file compatibility with all iOS devices- and more features are constantly being added. Office runs like a dog on a Mac. Sure, it's good to have, but for most people I think iWork is now much more useable, especially with cross compatibility. Oh, and the fact that it's FREE. 

100% compatible unless those things that got deleted during import mattered to you.

And even then, 100% compatibility doesn't mean functional equivalency. Heck, the new Numbers won't even let me arrange my graph on a page preview.

What is good enough "for most people" is irrelevant to those who make decisions at Microsoft, because they aren't "most people", they're in the 1%.  You demonstrate that you are not in the 1% with your coveting of the "free" price.

 

Word 4.0c was really good, Word 5.1 was darnn-near perfect.  It's all been downhill from there. 

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It may be slow and it may be from Microsoft but it's advanced functionality and it's wide adoption in business makes it (still) irreplaceable for serious business work.

That depends on what kind of business you're in. My company does just fine with lower cost alternatives. A handful of external facing employees have Office, but all our internal documentation is kept in non-Microsoft file formats.

 

Sadly there are times when Numbers makes Excel look fast. What is it with spreadsheets on the Mac?

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iWork is better but Apple fooled us with some bugs in Pages. There is still a need for professional word processors like Word.
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Hear hear. Dog slow, on whatever Mac you run Excel on. And not even on 10k rows; it's dog slow on just 2,000 lines. Without any formulas! Go figure! (that's you MS; go figure)

I wonder if it is slow by design or incompetence. Excel running on Windows 7 as a virtual machine in VMware Fusion is noticeably faster than the native OSX version on the same system.

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I had moved my work flow to Pages, but was forced back to Word by the recent "upgrade" by Apple. Although I wouldn't say I'm awaiting a new version of Office, there are a few things I'd like.

- Ability to run an accessibility check
- Ability to export a tagged PDF
- Retain the Mac version's approach to showing the style guide
- Less suck
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iWORK is quite good - no unnecessary frills.  

In the various offices I visit are VERY few people using more than half the features of MS Office.

In addition, with the free OpenOffice application nobody really needs MS Office.

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Hear hear. Dog slow, on whatever Mac you run Excel on. And not even on 10k rows; it's dog slow on just 2,000 lines. Without any formulas! Go figure! (that's you MS; go figure)
I wonder if it is slow by design or incompetence. Excel running on Windows 7 as a virtual machine in VMware Fusion is noticeably faster than the native OSX version on the same system.

In all honesty I don't think MS has many competent developers working for them, yet that can't be the case as they also leave and start working for Google and Apple and do good stuff over there. Is it management then? Well, maybe not, just a lack of wanting to create great software, testing it to the fullest. Yeah, I say they basically lack, period.
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iWork being free on new systems will help businesses stay off of Office.

It is likely to cripple your collaboration with your customers/cooperatives, presuming that most of them are using Office. Even within your company's IT walls, you will be handicapped if your company is using Exchange, SharePoint, Lync... and many are.
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Too late MS; already moved over to iWork. It's different, but works as advertised.

 

But it does not have professional features such as flagging an email for followup. Something a project team can't live without. 

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I'm thinking a lot of people already switched to iWork. Not only can you use this on your Mac, but also any iOS device AND, you can sync all of your things with iCloud for easy access between Macs and iOS devices. I think the current iWork suite is adequate for most people's needs. Maybe not the hard core Office people, but a general everyday user its more than adequate.

Home user who doesn't exchange documents with anyone, yes.    Business users and people who exchange files, no.

 

I'm looking forward to an Office update, but only if Outlook email, address book and calendar syncs via iCloud.   If it doesn't do that, it's worthless.   

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Dear Mister Microsoft Office Product Manager, Please Please Please do not make any more updates.  Office 2007 stinks.  Office 2010 stinks.  And I hear Office 2013 stinks worst of them all.  Please please please no more button, no more stupid bar.  Please bring back the User Interface of Office 2003. 

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