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so did any of you catch this release?
Apperently Nokia and Sega have struck a deal on a GBA-killer phone.
Sega will supply games on memorycards, and this NOKIA "N-Gage" will sport symbian series 60 (like the 7650), bluetooth (for peer-to-peer gaming), and support for online gaming via GPRS. There will be more products like this nokia says. More details at the official launch in February...

Frankly I think nintendo is shittin' their pants over this...



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No they're not. Believe me. The Gameboy Advance has what, 100% of the market right now? How many kids do you think will buy that Nokia unit, compared to how many kids will get, or already have, a GBA? It's a phone, so that automatically rules out a huge percentage of the market that the GBA already owns. And let's not even talk about cost... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

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<a href="http://www.mobil.cz/mobilni_komunikace/mobilni_telefony/abecedni_prehled_mt/siemens/siemenssl55dalsifoto.html" target="_blank">Gasp</a>!



So pretty! So sparkly! So girly! Waaant!

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post #125 of 189
nice, does it look a bit fake...?
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post #126 of 189
Fake?
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well, i could be wrong... but there are several things. firstly the size comparison picture is edited. I'm not talking about the "open" phone, everyone can see that its a different picture. But the color difference in the shadows of the first two leads me to think that they were not photographed next to each other. Secondly, If you've handled the 7650 you know its big. With the size comparison from the first picture, the size of the thumbs in the second pict just seems waaay to big.
And thirdly, the flatness off the bach of the "screen" part seems a bit strange...

But hey, I might be wrong... hopefully I am...
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post #128 of 189
I see what you mean. According to the site, the SL55 is supposed to get its formal introduction tomorrow, so I guess we'll know for sure then.
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post #129 of 189
If it's a mockup then sure, it could loook fake. That doesn't mean that they're not going to release the gizmo, it just means that you may not be seeing a true "production model" straight off the delivery line. Tons of crap you see in magazines these days are mockups of proposed products.


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post #130 of 189
What's with Siemens anyway, all their phones are so rounded and fat-looking. For some reason they really don't appeal to me... but wow, that is a tiny phone, Belle!

And Nokia, their phones are so alien-looking, sometimes their styling of the phones is just too much, it's ugly. Less is more, Nokia, hello. Cool phones, but quite gaudy in many a circumstance.

Kyocera is just.. bleh. And Motorola too, with the possible exception of some of the ideas in the v.70 (too bad it's a crappy phone under that cool plastic job that costs $300).

Sony-Ericsson I like, though, in their newest line (post-T68i).. getting a little more minimalist with the T300, I really like that. And the P800 of course.

I'd KILL to see what Apple could come up with for a phone's industrial design... *drool*
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post #131 of 189
[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
<strong>I see what you mean. According to the site, the SL55 is supposed to get its formal introduction tomorrow, so I guess we'll know for sure then. </strong><hr></blockquote>

So do you read or google Czech?

I ask, because I don't know how to say "Bluetooth" in Czech.
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post #132 of 189
There's very little in the way of specifications about the SL55. It seems that it should have feature parity with the S55, though, which has Bluetooth.

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[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
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Çinit malý.

There's very little in the way of specifications about the SL55. It seems that it should have feature parity with the S55, though, which has Bluetooth.

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NerozumÃ*m ti. Sorry—I only have a Deutsch-Tschechisch travel book.

Thanks for the the SL55 tip, though. I'll have to see if I can find it in town, and if Siemens employee get a discount.
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[quote]Originally posted by GardenOfEarthlyDelights:
<strong>NerozumÃ*m ti. Sorry—I only have a Deutsch-Tschechisch travel book.

Thanks for the the SL55 tip, though. I'll have to see if I can find it in town, and if Siemens employee get a discount.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Damn you for quoting me. I gave up because I could only get a C with cedilla, not a hacek.

You're a Siemens employee? Shouldn't you be providing us with inside information?

[ 11-25-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</p>
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post #135 of 189
Q: What's long and hard and full of Siemens employees?

A: A submarine full of Siemens employees.

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[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
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Damn you for quoting me. I gave up because I could only get a C with cedilla, not a hacek.

You're a Siemens employee? Shouldn't you be providing us with inside information?
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I'll give all the insider information you want... provided is has something to do with airbags.

My friend in Romania is named Lucut, but there's supposed to be a little cedilla thing under the "t". I can't get that with standard HTML either. Romanian isn't even Cyrillic— it's probably the closest thing to Latin, and I still can't get most of the characters.

I looked around town, and no one has the SL55 yet. I'm going to keep lookin'.
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post #137 of 189
Testing:

Lucuţ

Činit malý
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[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>Testing:

Lucuţ

Činit malý</strong><hr></blockquote>

Looks okay on my browser.
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[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>Testing:

Lucuţ

Činit malý</strong><hr></blockquote>

You rock!

Of course, this doesn’t work in The Most Vile Browser in the Standards World—Netscape 4.x.
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[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>Testing:

Lucuţ

Činit malý</strong><hr></blockquote>
Smartass.

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OS X is great for international languages!

It's pretty easy to place those characters.

First, activate the "Show Character Palette" menu in the International preferences pane. Then select the above in the Keyboards menu (it's the one with the flags for those of you who are unfamiliar) and use that little app instead of keycaps. The C with a hacek character can be found in "Latin Extended-A" and the l with a cedilla is in "Latin Extended-B". I confirm these characters work with Windows ME and IE 5.5, although I can't for the life of me figure out how to enter them on such a system. Checking right now, I can see that the admin here didn't even bother installing the Windows Character Map (I doubt he would disable it, so it must have been off by default!), so damned if I even know how to insert an accented e! Just another way Macs simply play nicer.

Check out the Tibetan characters. What a cool looking alphabet!
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[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>Check out the Tibetan characters. What a cool looking alphabet!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry... didn't realize you have to have Simplified Chinese installed to see them. Still, they're pretty cool.
post #143 of 189
Sonyericsson is announcing the successor to the T68i on monday... just thought I'd let you know. Got any juicy info Harald?
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post #144 of 189
Tonton:

That Felix bar is quite wild isn't it? Well it was last week anyway ...

New:

Yep, I know about it. It's nothing outrageously suprising as all the bells and whistles in this generation are already in this generation: bluetooth / gprs / mms etc.

It does have a similar browser to the P800 in that it can handle suitably formatted sites in just about any standard (cHTML aka iMode, WAP, HTML etc. etc. etc.) ... it's very very cute, more responsive then T68, PISSES over the Nokia in the same segment ...

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[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>OS X is great for international languages!

It's pretty easy to place those characters.
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Thank you for that, tonton! I have the Show Character Palette menu doohicky up because I use it for mathematical symbols, but I've never played around with it. Tibetan does look kind of cool.
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post #146 of 189
Harald: Your my man! You just got me outrageously exited anyway... . Any ideas on availability?
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[quote]Originally posted by New:
<strong>[b]Any ideas on availability?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I can find out fairly easily. It's not going to replace my T68 though ...

P800 (as has been posted by others here) is back to Jan. They ARE knockin' out the hardware -- it exists fellas -- but are STILL having software-related power management problems: the battery lasts as long as I do in bed -- a few hours under heavy use -- when you want it last as long as Hassan i Sabbah -- a week or more.

It will be fixed.

It will rock.

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post #148 of 189
ooh.

and I was just considering a T68i.

Shame on me. I should, in all my AIness, be much more expectant of what's next®!
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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>New:

Yep, I know about it. It's nothing outrageously suprising as all the bells and whistles in this generation are already in this generation: bluetooth / gprs / mms etc.

It does have a similar browser to the P800 in that it can handle suitably formatted sites in just about any standard (cHTML aka iMode, WAP, HTML etc. etc. etc.) ... it's very very cute, more responsive then T68, PISSES over the Nokia in the same segment ...

</strong><hr></blockquote>

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P800 (as has been posted by others here) is back to Jan. They ARE knockin' out the hardware -- it exists fellas -- but are STILL having software-related power management problems: the battery lasts as long as I do in bed -- a few hours under heavy use -- when you want it last as long as Hassan i Sabbah -- a week or more.
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Hark! the angel Harald sings! And he tells me to wait... just a little longer.

But let me see if I get that last bit right—you’re on the phone while doin’ the nasty thing? Won’t your WAP get screwed up by your SMS?
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post #150 of 189
Harald, come to HK often, do you? So what was your Felix experience?

On the subject of phones, I guess I'll wait to see the new SE models before I settle on the 6610. Damn, what exactly is it that makes Nokia try not to work well with Macs? Jaded perhaps because of the Apple-SE cross-promotions? Couldn't be. Nokias have never worked well with Macs, even before the SE alliance existed.

Damn them!
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tonton: That was my first time in HK. Did a little tour of the area. Taking a wazz by pointing Mr. Johnson at the Kowloon skyline is quite a trip. Rammed with German engineers on the pull, but you can't have everything. That Fook Lam Moon in Central is quite some restaurant anyway. Phew-WEE. What a place, what a place.

On the compatibility thing, yes, this is because Nokia have software engineers that aren't as good as the software engineers at other companies. Simple. Aaaaaand Apple and SE both adopted standards like SyncML.

Jonathan: I reckon it's like computers. Nothing's more useless then the one you've not got. I don't actually have any REALLY firm idea when something's coming out ... had ya asked me about the P800 back in March I would have told you September, because that's what SE thought ... Only the guy who makes the call knows for certain ... and he changes his mind ...

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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>[The T68i-successor] does have a similar browser to the P800 in that it can handle suitably formatted sites in just about any standard (cHTML aka iMode, WAP, HTML etc. etc. etc.) ... it's very very cute, more responsive then T68, PISSES over the Nokia in the same segment ...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Harald: I didn't see an announcement today and couldn't find anything on the <a href="http://www.sonyericsson.com/" target="_blank">Sony Ericsson website</a>. Any comments from the inside?

I really want a new phone that synchronizes its contact and calendar information with Palm Desktop (my PIM). But I don't care about Bluetooth at all. A plain USB cable would be just fine for me since I'm less likely to loose the cable than a USB dongle. Are there any options besides the T68? As far as I can tell there aren't any right now. I'd be willing to use an different PIM once I replace my Palm with a mobile phone.

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post #153 of 189
I am wondering when this announcement took place as well, and what the fruits of it might be.

I hope, I hope, a T368 or something, like a T300 but with the stuff in the T68i, like Bluetooth, and PIM functions... why did they take it away? Or maybe a T68i that has polyphonic ringtones, games, replacable faceplates, and a clean design liek the T300, I'd buy that. I just want the best of both worlds, that's all.
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post #154 of 189
And that was a nice try with the whole AppleInsider-esque "Oh, Sony-Ericsson is coming out with new phones on Monday!!" thing, but no!

Sony-Ericsson has announced that they will not be releasing any new phones, nor did they release any today.. all of the wireless sites have this info now. \

So go get a T68i. That is, unless you want a camera attachment for free, or you want polyphonic (MIDI/WAV) ringtones, or you want games, or you want changeable faceplates.. but you knew that. And you can save more money on the phone if you get it through Amazon, just $49 after rebates.
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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>On the compatibility thing, yes, this is because Nokia have software engineers that aren't as good as the software engineers at other companies. Simple. Aaaaaand Apple and SE both adopted standards like SyncML.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's not just that... Nokia does not release the details of their proprietary protocols to Mac developers. They have obviously given this privelige to PC developers only (Logo Manager is a kick-ass application). If they don't want to take the time and resources to develop integration software for 5% of the global market (and I'd estimate 10% of the Nokia market), they can at least allow a third party to do so.
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[quote] Sony-Ericsson has announced that they will not be releasing any new phones, nor did they release any today.. all of the wireless sites have this info now. \ <hr></blockquote>
well, your wrong, they have stated as much as that they are announcing 5 new phones this quarter, which leaves three more to be announced. While the info about monday was wrong, the new phone(s) are certainly not...
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post #157 of 189
There ARE new phones ready to go, this much I know ... the first WCDMA handset for one damn thing.

As to when, well, I'll see what I can do. Right now, je ne sais pas.

IIRC the first phone capable of Java games is among them. You heard it hear (reasonably) first.
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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>IIRC the first phone capable of Java games is among them. You heard it hear (reasonably) first.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Uh... it's definitely not the first. Where have you been? Unless you mean non-ME Java.
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I guess he means the first sonyericsson phone...
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What new said ⤴
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