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post #81 of 189
Anyone want to buy a slightly used T68i?
Nah, I'll probably keep it until Nokia debuts their next phone, but there are several things I hate about this phone.

Longtime Nokia user, I hate the navigation on the T68i. It also turns off when in your pocket even though you have the key lock on.
The deal breaker for me is this - I use my phone as my alarm clock and this damn thing fires off these two loud beeps before the alarm ring (which is soothing and ascendes in volume), jarring me out of sleep.
A small thing, but hey, I'm not a morning person and there's no reason for it to function that way.

The Address Book hookup via bluetooth is fantastic and I have a good opinion of the phone generally.
Sony-Ericsson have made the PC version of a phone - clunky!
post #82 of 189
I think I've made my choice for upgrading my trusty ol' Nokia 8290.

It doesn't have Bluetooth, or a camera, or Symbian, but if the <a href="http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/7210/1,5258,,00.html?searchkey=hp" target="_blank">Nokia 7210</a> will function as a modem via the <a href="http://www.nokiausa.com/nokia_accessories/7210/1,5900,70,00.html" target="_blank">USB data cable</a> on my Mac, I'm going with that.
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Belle, believe me, you want to wait for the 6650 if you possibly can.

With WCDMA technology, the phone has been tested at 384 kbps!!!

In an <a href="http://press.nokia.com/PR/200210/876871_5.html" target="_blank">October 16 press release</a> from Nokia explaining that the phone has passed the standards tests for both GSM and WCDMA, the following statement is made:

"In the first phase, most WCDMA networks will be dimensioned for 128 kbps data rate, which is also the data rate of the Nokia 6650. This makes the Nokia 6650 already faster than any traditional landline telephone data connection available for a business traveller. However, Nokia has already successfully tested 384 kbps data speed with the Nokia 6650 phone."

Looks like the true 3G we've been waiting for.

Hold on to your seats, ladies and gentlemen.
post #84 of 189
[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>Belle, believe me, you want to wait for the 6650 if you possibly can.

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Hold on to your seats, ladies and gentlemen.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Unfortunately, we'll be holding for a long time. The 6650 isn't scheduled to appear in Europe and Asia until well into 2003, and Nokia doesn't currently even have plans to launch it over here in the US.

And how long will we have to wait for decent WCDMA coverage?

I don't need anything so fancy. I only need internet access via my cell phone for downloading e-mail, which isn't all that bandwidth-hungry.

By the time the 6650 becomes even slightly useful, it'll be very late 2003, probably 2004, and I'll need to upgrade again anyway.

[ 10-20-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</p>
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post #85 of 189
Heh.

Belle likes girly, sparkley phones.

post #86 of 189
I lost my T68 today.

It's in a gutter somewhere in Kensington.
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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>I lost my T68 today.

It's in a gutter somewhere in Kensington.</strong><hr></blockquote>



I threw my 8260 at a wall today, from frustration.

It actually seems to work better now. I think i unstuck the sticky 7 key.

<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>Belle likes girly, sparkley phones.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I may have just found a use for that girly, sparkly paring knife I found in my Gold Box today.

[Edit: That sounds smutty. Finding things in one's Gold Box, I mean. It's not just me, is it? Or is it?]

[quote]<strong>It actually seems to work better now. I think i unstuck the sticky 7 key.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I shudder to think how it got sticky in the first place. It would certainly explain why Amorph says you breathe heavily whenever you call him.

[ 10-20-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</p>
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post #89 of 189
Oh man.

This is too easy, yet I know i'll be on the Belle-Bad-Side® for months if I say it.

Carry on. T68i, people. T68i.

pay no attention to Belle's gold box...
post #90 of 189
[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
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pay no attention to Belle's gold box...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh my.

Does she have an erotic piercing with some jewelry attached <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />

Say no more...
post #91 of 189
No, seriously about the girly phones... it's crazy.

The Nokia 8310 is the exact same form factor as the 6510, in fact, with a slight modification, the external cases are completely interchangeable.

The 6510 has a much higher screen resolution, more memory, an additional game, an enhanced calendar (weekly view) and an "electronic wallet" feature that allows you to securely store and use your credit card info when making WAP purchases (whether anyone actually uses that feature is another thing).

The screen resolution alone is a huge improvement.

But guess what. The 8310 has girly, glittery colors. Therefore, it costs up to US$40 more than the 6510, and it's more popular.





post #92 of 189
[quote]Originally posted by RodUK:
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Oh my.

Does she have an erotic piercing with some jewelry attached <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />

Say no more...</strong><hr></blockquote>

now see that's just taking it too far.

read the post JUST BEFORE MINE.

post #93 of 189
[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>No, seriously about the girly phones... it's crazy.

The Nokia 8310 is the exact same form factor as the 6510, in fact, with a slight modification, the external cases are completely interchangeable.

The 6510 has a much higher screen resolution, more memory, an additional game, an enhanced calendar (weekly view) and an "electronic wallet" feature that allows you to securely store and use your credit card info when making WAP purchases (whether anyone actually uses that feature is another thing).

The screen resolution alone is a huge improvement.

But guess what. The 8310 has girly, glittery colors. Therefore, it costs up to US$40 more than the 6510, and it's more popular.</strong><hr></blockquote>
All true, though I have to admit I prefer the 6510.

And though the 7210 is girly and sparkly, if you read the feature list there aren't too many alternatives:
[quote]<strong>Phone Features
Voice
Handsfree speakerphone for convenient communication

Multimedia Messaging Service1,14
Receive messages with image, sound and text 1,14
Create and send messages with image and text. Note: may not be able to send protected image files with some MMS messages 1,14
Edit and forward received messages with image and text to compatible phones 1,14
Received MMS images and MIDI tones can be saved in the Gallery menu 1,14

Mobile Messaging
E-mail, text, and picture messages 1
Mobile chat 1
Predictive text input

Connectivity
High-speed data transmission via GPRS 1,15
Wireless modem via infrared or cable
Mobile Internet (WAP 1.2.1) 1,2,12
Synchronize your phonebook, calendar and to-do list with your PC using Nokia 7210 PC Suite 4

Downloadable Java Applications
Java support for application downloads
Pre-loaded Java applications: Advanced Converter, Triple Pop game and Bounce game

Organization
Phonebook with up to 300 contacts, with multiple numbers and text entries per contact Â
Enhanced Calendar with monthly and daily view
To-do list with priority levels
Alarm clock with snooze
Stopwatch and countdown timer

Personalization & Fun
Polyphonic (MIDI) ring tones
Use wallpaper templates or customize your wallpaper by loading a picture or graphic to your phone display
8 different color schemes personalize display elements such as headers, battery strength and network indicators
FM radio
Digital clock screensaver

Specifications
Weight: 2.92 ounces
4.17 inches long x 1.77 inches wide x .69 inch thick
Internal antenna and vibrating alert
High resolution color display: 128 x 128 pixels, up to 4096 colors

Service
GSM/GPRS 900/1800/1900 Â

7210 Battery Life
Standard Li-Ion Battery 720 mAh (BLD-3)
Â*\t-- Digital Talk Time up to 5 hours*
Â*\t-- Digital Standby Time up to 10 days*
Â*\t-- Speakerphone Talk Time up to 3 hours*
Â*\t-- Radio + headset up to 20 hours*
Â*\t-- Radio + speaker up to 8 hours*</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm not just buying it because it's glittery, it's got the most useful feature set (for me).
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post #94 of 189
lies. it's the glitter.
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[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>lies. it's the glitter. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Pththth.

The 7210 is also only marginally larger than the 8290.

It also occurs to me that arguing over the purchase of hardware just because it's glittery is kind of pointless at a website populated by Mac fans.

Now, which color should I buy?!

Oops.
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post #96 of 189
Not to spoil anything, but test of the 7210 really disses the key layout for ruining the phones usability, go for the turquoise and buy the accessory covers "green gray" or "yellow"...
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[quote]Originally posted by New:
<strong>Not to spoil anything, but test of the 7210 really disses the key layout for ruining the phones usability, go for the turquoise and buy the accessory covers "green gray" or "yellow"... </strong><hr></blockquote>
Woah, I never really noticed that. I'll have to play around with it first, I guess. It may not be too big an issue, so long as the navigation button is usable. I don't tend to dial numbers on my phone too often - most numbers I need are stored.

My main problem with many of the phones is connectivity. I need either USB or Bluetooth to keep connected. Neither IrDA nor serial cables are any good to me. My iBook has USB, my ThinkPad has Bluetooth.
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post #98 of 189
both would be nice... Bluetooth works very good (*CONFIRMED*). The USB still has to be confirmed as even working with a mac.
Don't count on Nokia to write the software, their mac support for 6210, was lousy...
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[quote]Originally posted by New:
<strong>both would be nice... Bluetooth works very good (*CONFIRMED*). The USB still has to be confirmed as even working with a mac.
Don't count on Nokia to write the software, their mac support for 6210, was lousy...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I certainly don't hold much hope for all the synchronization features via USB, but surely it wouldn't need much to make the phone operate as a modem via USB on the Mac?

Can anyone recommend a good website for cell phone news and reviews?

[ 10-21-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</p>
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<a href="http://www.howardforums.com" target="_blank">www.howardforums.com</a> is wild stuff.
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[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong><a href="http://www.howardforums.com" target="_blank">www.howardforums.com</a> is wild stuff.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Wow. And I thought this place was a bunfight!

It did help, though. A lot of people recommend the Nokia 6310i, even though it's built like a brick. Well, compared to most recent phones, anyway.

Anybody played with one?
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post #102 of 189
The 6310i and 6590 (the US version of the 6510) have the same screen resolution (though the 6590's screen is dimensionally smaller). They also have the same OS.

There are three main advantages of the 6310i over the 6590:

1. Bluetooth option
Keep in mind, to enable bluetooth, you need the special bluetooth/battery accessory, which last I checked was over $100 in addition to the price of the phone.

2. Java
Nice feature, and if downloadable applications is important to you, this is a must.

3. Tri-band
The 6310i can be used worldwide, except in Japan. The 6590 can only be used in the US.

BUT - The huge difference is in the form-factor. The 6310i, although thin with the Li-Polymer battery, is very large by today's standards. That said, this series is extremely well-made, and is a very comfortable form-factor if image is not your priority. However, the Bluetooth addition makes it much thicker.

The 6590 is excellent as far as form-factor goes. It's smaller than your 8290. The buttons are easy to press, the paint is durable, and the case is easy to replace if it gets damaged.

The 6590 also has an FM radio and included stereo headset, which the 6310i lack.

Both phones are connectible to a Mac via IRDA (any USB to IRDA adapter with Mac driver should work for Macs without IRDA).

Basically, because I have a PowerBook with built-in IRDA, I don't need BlueTooth to connect with my phone. Because of this, and because of its small size, I far prefer the 6590.

Java applets would be nice, though...
post #103 of 189
On closer inspection, Bluetooth is built-in on the 6310i. It doesn't make the phone thicker (like it did on the similar 6210).
post #104 of 189
What's a bunfight?


On a totally unrelated note, I saw both the 6310i and the 6590 last night in a shop window.

6590's positively sexy. I think I may have to trade my 8260 for one when my contract's up.
post #105 of 189
Save your cash and buy a SonyEricsson P800 when they come out in a month or so. They are the shit, check em out on S E website
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[quote] Basically, because I have a PowerBook with built-in IRDA, I don't need BlueTooth to connect with my phone. Because of this, and because of its small size, I far prefer the 6590. <hr></blockquote>

Connecting via IRDA cannot be compared to Bluetooth, trustme, it two different worlds...
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[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>What's a bunfight?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ummm, a free-for-all, I guess? Or riot?

Does anyone have any experience with Siemens phones? The new <a href="http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2470.html" target="_blank">S55</a> has a similar feature set to the 7210, but includes Bluetooth. Nice and small, too.

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[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
<strong>Nice and small, too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not to mention pretty! It's much more attractive than any of those Nokias, IMO.

I had never heard of a bunfight before. Now I picture two pooches fighting over a hot dog bun at the backyard BBQ.

Boy you're up early, Belle. I've only read good things about Siemens phones in general. I'm not sure about the S55 in particular. What's the likelihood that it will sync with iCal/Address Book on a Mac via Bluetooth? [Edit: infoSync does say that it will use syncML over Bluetooth.] At this point, if I'm going to get a new phone, Mac sync is all I care about. (There are the limiting factors we impose upon ourselves as Mac users again.) According to infoSync you'll have to wait (at least) until February 2003 for the S56, the S55's North American sibling.

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[ 10-25-2002: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
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post #109 of 189
Last time I had a Siemens it was "sluggish" like the Sony Ericcson not "snappy" like Nokia... (well my 6210 was never really "snappy").
But this was a long time ago. It looks really sweet, but there is still the mac-testing...

HEY SIEMENS! send me one, and I'll test it for you for free!!! the NOKIAs TOO!!!
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[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>Not to mention pretty! It's much more attractive than any of those Nokias, IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It is pretty, isn't it? I hadn't noticed. Shut up before you even start, Jonathan.
[quote]<strong>I had never heard of a bunfight before. Now I picture two pooches fighting over a hot dog bun at the backyard BBQ. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Having done a little research, well, Googling around, it would appear it's perhaps an Australian expression. I used to work with a couple of Aussies, so I guess that's where I picked it up.
[quote]<strong>Boy you're up early, Belle. I've only read good things about Siemens phones in general. I'm not sure about the S55 in particular.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know. It's criminal. I have to be up by 6AM to take some of my medication. I remember some good reviews of, hmm, was it the C35?

The S55 has all the features I'm most interested in, though I'd like to know if it has hands-free operation. It's so useful when you're working at your computer and can leave the phone on the desk while you talk (without the hassle of an earpiece).
[quote]<strong>What's the likelihood that it will sync with iCal/Address Book on a Mac via Bluetooth? [Edit: infoSync does say that it will use syncML over Bluetooth.] At this point, if I'm going to get a new phone, Mac sync is all I care about. (There are the limiting factors we impose upon ourselves as Mac users again.)</strong><hr></blockquote>
As good as any other, I guess. As you say it uses SyncML. To be honest, without support for the same kind of range of manufacturers and models that the other iApps have, iSync is going to be a worthless piece of software, anyway. I'm hoping that the next release is going to surprise us all.
[quote]<strong>According to infoSync you'll have to wait (at least) until February 2003 for the S56, the S55's North American sibling.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sigh. I know. That's okay, I guess. My 8290 can live on for a little longer. It's kind of like the situation we've been discussing in the sub-notebo... I mean Palm vs. PocketPC... thread: There aren't many phones around that have every feature I want. And it's not that I'm being demanding - I don't care about the cameras, or polyphonic ringtones, or that kind of thing. I just want GPRS, tri-band, Bluetooth, and hands-free in a phone about the size of my 8290. It's not that difficult, is it?
[quote]Originally posted by New:
<strong>Last time I had a Siemens it was "sluggish" like the Sony Ericcson not "snappy" like Nokia... (well my 6210 was never really "snappy").</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was about to say - the 8290 feels a little sluggish sometimes, too. I can quite easily having it struggling to keep up with me, especially when fiddling around with SMS messages.
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post #111 of 189
esch: the Dupont T-Mobile is open.

belle: it is pretty. i like it.
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cool i was looking for some sites for customizing my T68i and i ran across <a href="http://mobiledia.com/" target="_blank">Mobiledia.com</a>. it looks new but they already have a ton of content, and not just backgrounds but screensavers and ring tones and themes.

there are already a couple sites like this but this is the best one i've seen so far.
post #113 of 189
In the near future (well, not so near in the tech world... by the summer) I will need to upgrade my phone.

I have three "wants" for this new phone:

&gt;Bluetooth (built-in)
&gt;GSM
&gt;Polyphonic ring tones

It seems like I can find phones with combinations of two of the above but not all three. Does anyone know of any phones coming out by next sumer with all three?

I really like the T68i but it lacks polyphonic rings and I like the Moto T720 but it lacks Bluetooth!

Thanks for any help.
post #114 of 189
Wow, wish I would have seen this thread a long time ago.

I cannot express how much I HATE the T68i. Worst UI of any phone I have ever used. VERY slow. Redundant features, everything takes 3-5 steps, everything! Headset sucks. Did I mention how bad the interface is? :o Sony/Ericsson has never been able to make a good phone...not before and not yet.

Nokia. By far the best UI of any phone on the market. Period.

[ 10-31-2002: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</p>
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[quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:
<strong>Wow, wish I would have seen this thread a long time ago.

I cannot express how much I HATE the T68i. Worst UI of any phone I have ever used. VERY slow. Redundant features, everything takes 3-5 steps, everything! Headset sucks. Did I mention how bad the interface is? :o Sony/Ericsson has never been able to make a good phone...not before and not yet.

Nokia. By far the best UI of any phone on the market. Period.

[ 10-31-2002: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh geez. Have you used this phone? The menus are a bit slower, but nothing to complain about. What are the redundant features? Everything is 3-5 steps? Well, locking the phone is 1. Turning on vibrate is 1. Phone book is one. Messages are 1. Recent calls are 1. In fact, looking through mine, there are very few things that are over 3 steps. The things that are 3-5 steps are there for a reason. Aka things you don't use much. Change the ringer is buried for a reason. And then changing the time is buried. Everything else is pretty handy. Plus there is a shortcuts menu where you can add anything to get to faster.

Headset sucks? T68i does not come with a headset.

Heh, yeah Nokia making anything but cheapo phones, that will be the day. Come on!! Nokia sucks! There is a reason why when phone companies give away a free phone, it's almost always a Nokia.
post #116 of 189
Been using it for about two months. Yes it comes with an earpiece which many people complain to me about hearing EVERYTHING that is around me. Tell me, do you really think it's necessary to have to go through about 5 steps to erase an SMS message telling you that you have a voice mail....even if you already listened to the voice mail? AT&T rep at my work: By far THE most complained about feature

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post #117 of 189
Nokia is announcing the follow-up to the 9210 on monday...
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[quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:
<strong>Been using it for about two months. Yes it comes with an earpiece which many people complain to me about hearing EVERYTHING that is around me. Tell me, do you really think it's necessary to have to go through about 5 steps to erase an SMS message telling you that you have a voice mail....even if you already listened to the voice mail? AT&T rep at my work: By far THE most complained about feature

It takes me 3 steps to erase the text message. Put an inbox shortcut in the My Shortcuts menu. But you don't even need to erase the message in the first place, so it's not something you need to do all the time. That's why it is buried. A very rarely used item should be buried.

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post #119 of 189
<a href="http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2539.html" target="_blank">The new Nokia's</a>.



Yikes!

It's worth clicking through the pictures. Does Nokia actually try out the keypad layouts for usability?!

Also, six phones - only one has Bluetooth. I realize that they span the entire price spectrum, but I thought cell phone manufacturers would be driving the Bluetooth bandwagon, not waiting to jump on board.

[ 11-04-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</p>
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Sony Ericcson P800 is due out soon, it includes bluetooth and a camera. Here are a couple pics.


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