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<a href="http://theregister.co.uk/content/59/27901.html" target="_blank">http://theregister.co.uk/content/59/27901.html</a>


january is always a nice month for new things.
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Jonathan! Naughty naughty!

9. Be descriptive with the title of new threads. Do not start a thread called "Guess what..." and then use the text portion of the post to explain, give your post a headline. This courtesy is especially appreciated in the more highly trafficked forums.


Is this to be used in a new PDA?
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1.

2. Half yes, half no.
Half new, half old.
post #4 of 29
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[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>2. Half yes, half no.
Half new, half old.</strong><hr></blockquote>It's the return of Kormac! Fwaaa! Run for your lives!
post #5 of 29
I don't get it. It's just a 802.11b chipset. What's the big deal?
post #6 of 29
Apple is working on a wireless iPod that will work with Airport/Rendezvous. It will automatically sync up with other computers and devices and stream music off them. Since it only streams music rather than transfering the files they avoid problems with the RIAA. So are you saying it will use one of these StrongARM chips? Is this what this article is about? Maybe I am reading the wrong thing.

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[quote]Originally posted by Outsider:
<strong>Jonathan! Naughty naughty!

9. Be descriptive with the title of new threads. Do not start a thread called "Guess what..." and then use the text portion of the post to explain, give your post a headline. This courtesy is especially appreciated in the more highly trafficked forums.


Is this to be used in a new PDA?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Descriptive titles? What about descriptive posts? I have no idea what's going on. Who cares about AMD strongarm and what's it mean to me?
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post #8 of 29
1) ARM is probably the king of the embedded chip space. It's more of a reference platform than a particular line of processors, though. Newtons used StrongARM processors. Palm is migrating to ARM processors (from Mot's 68K-derived DragonBall) now as well.

2) AirPort chews batteries.

So what we have here is a fairly efficient processor that builds wireless networking into an extremely popular, powerful embedded/handheld platform that Apple has extensive experience with.

It's a great little chip to power a Digital Hub-savvy Apple gadget, in short. Maybe it will appear in Apple's answer to the MS tablet (which might not be a tablet itself)? Or something else?
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post #9 of 29
I'm so divided. Should I keep this here since it's Future Hardware, or should I move it to the Digital Hub? Decisions, decisions.

An interesting read, to say the least.
post #10 of 29
It should probably go in Digital Hub, now that one Administrator has posted it in the wrong forum with a guideline-violating title, and the other Admin, along with two Moderators, have posted in it without moving it.

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[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>I'm so divided. Should I keep this here since it's Future Hardware, or should I move it to the Digital Hub? Decisions, decisions.

An interesting read, to say the least.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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It is the nature of truth in general, as of some ores in particular, to be richest when most superficial.

I wish I could write as mysterious as a cat."

--Edgar Allan Poe

If you want to add something, then add it. Otherwise keep reading along like the rest of us.
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I thought I should post here because I'm feeling left out. Also, posting off-topic adds to the felony count amongst mods and admins.

All we need is an inappropriate "IBL" from that liability, groverat...
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post #13 of 29
I thought these forums were about Apple, not about individual posters!
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post #14 of 29
Leadership by example...?

Anyways, why the 'January...' reference? Just a guess, since AMD says they're only now being to sample this new chip?

My b-day's in Feb, so here's to expectations...

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[quote]Originally posted by MacsRGood4U:
<strong>I thought these forums were about Apple, not about individual posters!</strong><hr></blockquote>
What is this "Apple" of which you speak?
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post #16 of 29
[quote]Originally posted by Amorph:
<strong>1) ARM is probably the king of the embedded chip space. It's more of a reference platform than a particular line of processors, though. Newtons used StrongARM processors. Palm is migrating to ARM processors (from Mot's 68K-derived DragonBall) now as well.
</strong><hr></blockquote>


Amorph,

I'm not sure I follow... Given what you say about the ARM palm et-al (oh yea iPod too) then why would this be good news?

AMD doesn't own the ARM (Intel does) and uless this AMD chip is an 'arm clone+wifi' then Palm and Apple wouldn't move to it would they? If Palm already invested in the move to ARM and Apple is clearly invested with the iPod a move to something new would be a longshot.

(lemme read that article again... maybe I'm missing something)

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post #17 of 29
All we're missing here is: ***CONFIRMED***!

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hey.....(off topic i guess, but then so are most things in this thread anyway)....how did Brad get to be "massive moderator"? i asked ever so sweetly to be "massive member"....of course it is a lie....but then so is "the check is in the mail", "i've never seen that girl in my life, honey, i swear", "officer, she told me she was 18", and "i won't ---- in your ----".... fibbing and tall tales is what life is all about....g
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[quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:
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Amorph,

I'm not sure I follow... Given what you say about the ARM palm et-al (oh yea iPod too) then why would this be good news?

AMD doesn't own the ARM (Intel does) and uless this AMD chip is an 'arm clone+wifi' then Palm and Apple wouldn't move to it would they? If Palm already invested in the move to ARM and Apple is clearly invested with the iPod a move to something new would be a longshot.

(lemme read that article again... maybe I'm missing something)

Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>

On a slightly more serious note, perhaps this is the source of the "Apple Goes With AMD" rumors? Maybe Apple really IS going with AMD, just not for desktop processors?

It would tie up a few loose ends, anyway. People hear "Apple using AMD processors" and immediately assume it is for their desktops. Lots of other devices use processors, too.
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[quote]Originally posted by thegelding:
<strong>"massive member</strong><hr></blockquote>

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I nearly split a gut reading that one. Thank you.
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post #21 of 29
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[quote]Originally posted by TJM:
<strong>

On a slightly more serious note, perhaps this is the source of the "Apple Goes With AMD" rumors? Maybe Apple really IS going with AMD, just not for desktop processors?

It would tie up a few loose ends, anyway. People hear "Apple using AMD processors" and immediately assume it is for their desktops. Lots of other devices use processors, too.</strong><hr></blockquote>


the sound is the nail being hit on the head.
post #22 of 29
[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>the sound is the nail being hit on the head.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Or the Eskimo being defrosted?
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post #23 of 29
Semi-related... Interesting info:

Why does the iPod have TWO ARM CPU's in them?

While doing some reading I found this:

"... whether it's better to build phones with two "CPUs" - as they are today, with one for the radio and one for the data - or one. A two chip phone isolates the baseband stacks from bugs in the general purpose processor affecting the radio."

So it seems cell phones today make use of TWO CPUs as well.... I dunno of any other MP3 player that does so could we be back to iPod = iPhone?

It adds up...

iPod has two CPUs
iPod uses Pixo (a cell phone software OS)

That OS BTW seems to have dropped off the face of the earth... It sure isn't on their web site any more. Why?

Dave

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post #24 of 29
[quote]Originally posted by Amorph:
<strong> Newtons used StrongARM processors. Palm is migrating to ARM processors (from Mot's 68K-derived DragonBall) now as well.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

OffTopic, but of interest.

The Newton used StrongARM processors - but it didn't really have to. All Newton Apps were written in NewtonScript which was a Bytecode language (like Java). It was all interpreted (so to speak) - so the Newton could have migrated to any processor and as long as they ported the OS, all the apps would have worked seamlessly.
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this is a very exiting time to live in.

i still think there is a market for a smart little gadget that lets us communicate/organize with "apple-style".

goodbye newton - hello newton
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[quote]

Originally posted by thegelding:
<strong>"massive member"</strong>

Originally posted by Rhumgod:
<strong>

I nearly split a gut reading that one. Thank you.</strong><hr></blockquote>

IBL!

if we're nominating new nomenclature how about:
Swollen Member for egomaniacal posters
or Flaccid Member for inactive posters
TURGID Member for ALL CAPS overstimulated posters
Dangling Member for those who start but don't finish posts :confused:
Mensa Member for self-appointed omnipotent posters <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Dis Member for the poster of unkind cutting comments
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as for why the iPod has Two processors,
you CAN boot anything up to an xServe from it,
and "20Gb" has two 10Gb drives not one big one
so maybe it's some kind of RAID controller...
screw the rack mount, wirelessly gang 20 iPods!

that or it could be multithreaded like the MDD

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post #27 of 29
[quote]Originally posted by TJM:
<strong>

On a slightly more serious note, perhaps this is the source of the "Apple Goes With AMD" rumors?</strong><hr></blockquote>

My thoughts exactly.

And on that note, I'm moving this to Digital Hub.

Finally.
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post #28 of 29
So AMD is using strongarm tactics to gain a competitive advantage? Maybe the DOJ needs to have a look at this.
post #29 of 29
[quote]Originally posted by curiousuburb:
<strong>as for why the iPod has Two processors,
you CAN boot anything up to an xServe from it,</strong><hr></blockquote>
this has nothing to do with anything related to the processors, you can boot an xServe from any F/W powered hard drive
<strong> [quote]and "20Gb" has two 10Gb drives not one big one
so maybe it's some kind of RAID controller...</strong><hr></blockquote> ummm no there is one hard drive in the 20 gig iPod, it is just thicker then the 10 or 5 gig ones
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screw the rack mount, wirelessly gang 20 iPods!</strong><hr></blockquote> would be hard to do unless you had a 20 port F/W hub that also had raid functions[/QB]

<strong> [quote]that or it could be multithreaded like the MDD</strong><hr></blockquote>

ummm on an iPod, why?

more likely one is for running the OS the other is for decoding the mp3s into audio...
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