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post #1 of 17
11/13/02 at 4:22pm
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Any one out there that has a newton please help me a i just got a 2ed hand 120 message pad newton and it doesn't have OS 2.0 is there a place where i can download this as it didn't come with any software discs.....is there a web site where i can dl the old os? I went to apples webs site but nothing there....PLEASE HELP IF you can a i hear that os 2.0 is better.

Frank_t
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post #2 of 17
11/13/02 at 5:08pm
This sounds like Digital Hub material to me.

Moving now...
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post #3 of 17
11/13/02 at 5:42pm
<a href="ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Newton/For_Mac_OS/" target="_blank">only link i coudl find</a>

although i don't see 2.0 here anywhere. odd.
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post #4 of 17
11/13/02 at 5:49pm
man, i actually had to do some digging for this sucker.

<a href="http://newted.dyndns.org/users/osohn/NewTIL/TIL_MessagePad_MP120.html" target="_blank">here you go</a>

edit: nm, looks like those are only documents. you might have to try alternative sources for the software. *cough*



[ 11-13-2002: Message edited by: alcimedes ]</p>
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post #5 of 17
11/13/02 at 6:42pm
[quote]Originally posted by frank_t:
<strong>Any one out there that has a newton please help me a i just got a 2ed hand 120 message pad newton and it doesn't have OS 2.0 is there a place where i can download this as it didn't come with any software discs.....is there a web site where i can dl the old os? I went to apples webs site but nothing there....PLEASE HELP IF you can a i hear that os 2.0 is better.

Frank_t</strong><hr></blockquote>

You cannot download OS 2.0. Upgrading from OS 1.3 required changing the Newton's ROM, which Apple offered as an upgrade program for some time. You can look for the ROM on eBay - they pop up from time to time.
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post #6 of 17
11/13/02 at 7:51pm
[quote]You cannot download OS 2.0. Upgrading from OS 1.3 required changing the Newton's ROM, which Apple offered as an upgrade program for some time. You can look for the ROM on eBay - they pop up from time to time.<hr></blockquote>

This, for the most part, is correct. Unfortunately, there aren't many people that do the upgrade now, and while it's not exactly rocket science, you want to be careful when installing. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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post #7 of 17
11/13/02 at 8:34pm
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Thanks for the help guys.....i never seen these rom thing on ebay and i now know that i can use 2.0....

But i still need your help if you have the discs which your newton came with can you put them on a server some where, where i can download them as this 2ed hand one didn't come with any software for me to use with my 7300 as it needs it. the 7300 has os 9.1 which should be fine as it can se my 7300 but it ask for the Newton Connection Utility. You see it come up with an error like this

"An error has occurred. Is newton connetion active on your Macintosh (-28009)"

now i have looked every where for this software and what it comes with but no luck....i know someone out there has it PLEASE can i have a copy.

Frank_t
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post #8 of 17
11/14/02 at 4:50am
You'll find the Newton Backup Utility here:

<a href="ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Newton/For_Mac_OS/Other_Newton_Updates/" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Newton/For_Mac_OS/Other_Newton_Updates/</a>

And if you search the Newton sites (there are still some active ones) you'll also find downloads for the NCU, although they're not really favoured by Apples, I don't think that Apple goes after them. Really, I don't understand why Apple doesn't just put the downloads somewhere on their FTP, as you can't really use them unless you own a Newton...
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post #9 of 17
11/14/02 at 5:06pm
give away software for apple's future product?
no way!

peve

and by the way...
no. english is not my native language.
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peve

and by the way...
no. english is not my native language.
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post #10 of 17
11/14/02 at 5:37pm
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Thanks for the help...i found the Newton Connection Utilitys but every time i connect the newton the software back up what is on the newton on the mac but after it doesn't let me install other stuff on to it or delete anything...and i can see the options there but it disconnects when i try to do that WHY? someone must have the software that came with the message pad 120 with os 1.3 not 2.0.....can someone tell me why it back ups all of the data off the newton but then keeps disconnecting it when i try to do anything else? do i have the right software for this newton? ANY HELP i welcome....please

Frank_t

[ 11-14-2002: Message edited by: frank_t ]</p>
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post #11 of 17
11/14/02 at 5:49pm
I would think you could get a 2000 or a 2100 for what it may cost you to do this. And they are way superior to the 120.
iPad2 16 GB Wifi

Who is worse? A TROLL or a person that feeds & quotes a TROLL? You're both idiots.....
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iPad2 16 GB Wifi

Who is worse? A TROLL or a person that feeds & quotes a TROLL? You're both idiots.....
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post #12 of 17
11/14/02 at 5:57pm
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Do you think that $13 USD for a 120 newton is good? I do...that's why i got it...and i'm not spending any money on the software as it's old and i'm sure some one has it that could give me a copy as this one didn't come with any discs.

If i find a 2100 for a good price i will get it too.....but i stil need help finding the disc that the 120 message pad came with the oss 1.3 verson not 2.0

Frank_t
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post #13 of 17
11/14/02 at 7:13pm
You might want to try the NCK (Newton Connection Kit) if you're having problems with NCU.

NCK only works with pre-OS 2.0 Newtons.
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post #14 of 17
11/14/02 at 10:48pm
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Hey thanks! yeah it works!.....i could only get one game on the thing but it works......anyone know if there is a checkers game for the newton? or a web site that has them? Thanks for the help.

Frank_t
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post #15 of 17
11/14/02 at 10:58pm
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Why is when i try to dl software for my newton in os x that it come up as a .pkg installer file? it doesn't look like the icon of the newton connect app....do you know what i mean?

Frank_t
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post #16 of 17
11/15/02 at 12:30am
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Found a fix....i found an app that makes my newton into a sony remote.....can't wait to see if it works on my Brothers TV hehe :cool:

Frank_t
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post #17 of 17
11/15/02 at 12:47am
[quote]Originally posted by frank_t:
<strong>Why is when i try to dl software for my newton in os x that it come up as a .pkg installer file? it doesn't look like the icon of the newton connect app....do you know what i mean?

Frank_t</strong><hr></blockquote>

yep. it's a package (.pkg) that you can install directly on your mac with <a href="http://www.panic.com/~stevenf/index.php?node=NewTen" target="_blank">NewTen</a>. HTH
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