Originally Posted by asdasd
I think you are wrong. I also think that this response is based on internal surveys Apple uses where they divide the smartphone market into real smart phones and feature phones and are coming second in the UK, Germany etcetera. Clearly Germany is price conscious - hence the Lumina. Now people can get an iPhone at a cheap sticker price and on a normal 35€ ish contract. That's big.
To a certain extent, I wish I was wrong about the 5c. However, I'm in contact consistently with between 50-100 clients throughout the year, including another 100 or so "indirect" associates (family members, friends of friends, etc.).
Fact: One (1) 5c that I know of has been sold since it came out. That was a birthday present for a 7-year old girl of a client. She loves it to death!
I should note, that I service and help a LOT of people with 4 and 4s "hand me downs". That means they are already paid for, and still work great for much of what a family giving one to their child needs: emergency phone calls, texting, WhatsApp, Facebook... and a scattering of free games, some music, and taking pictures.
It should also be said that 95% of everyone I know or have come into contact with uses a case, many also use a screen protector. Germans tend to take care of their things really well, hence most of the old iPhones I service are in close to pristine, fresh-out-of-the-box conditions. Really.
Also, a large majority of clients are still using the iP5 and haven't upgraded. Reasons for this range from:
a) no reason to because the 5 does everything they need to at the moment;
z) the German hacker that "broke" TouchID naturally was a huge source of "pride"(?!) here and made all the headline news. Naturally this lead to the "so why do I need a new iPhone with Touch ID that doesn't work or protect me, and something I don't need or use now" mentality.
My summary observations from the Rheinland: the 5 is still kickin' for most professional people, who seem to be waiting for the 6 before upgrading. When that happens, the 5 will get handed down and 4 and 4s'es will be put to rest or sold (the used iPhone market is fairly active and expensive here... see "pristine").
When taking into account what I just stated, I don't see Apple selling any more or any less of the iP-5c unless it was at least another €100 to even €200 cheaper off-contract. I would advise Apple not to do that, and would take it off the market first before going that route. Even if the 5c is actually better than the 5 (modern chip set), Apple didn't do itself any favors going back to plastic and deciding to release "fashion colors for teens". Here in Germany, they only caused most people to hang onto their "pro-look" 5 a little longer.
BTW: I don't want to forget to say, that your categorizing of "smart phones vs. feature phones" didn't fall on deaf ears. I've been calling for proper categorization of all mobile devices for ages now to dispell the myth that Android is somehow winning at anything relavent to Apple.
A great quote was recently written by John Gruber... that I'll paraphrase: "Apple, Google and Microsoft know they're playing chess... while the press, analysts and Wall Street continue to think and say they are playing checkers".