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Google's nascent Android Wear platform gained two standard-bearers Tuesday as American smartphone maker Motorola unveiled the Moto 360 and South Korean consumer products giant LG introduced the G Watch.



Motorola's Moto 360 is modeled after traditional round wristwatches, with a metal casing that the company says will be available in multiple styles. The shape is a stark departure from other smart watches on the market, which exclusively sport designs centered around a rectangular display.

"We decided that if we were going to do the Moto 360 we must do it round," Motorola consumer experience design executive Jim Wicks said.

"It's a very ambitious design. I remember presenting it to the engineers for the first time, this sort of dual reaction of excitement and sort of dread fear of 'how on earth are we gonna realize that," added Motorola designer Dickon Isaacs. "All the core components are technically completely brand new, ground-up in order to support this design vision."

Google features the Moto 360 heavily in its Android Wear promotional videos, though does not note the device by name. Motorola is in the midst of an ownership transition, having been sold by Google to Chinese computer giant Lenovo earlier this year.

LG G Watch


LG, meanwhile, appears to have been chosen to manufacture the de facto Android Wear reference platform. The company's G Watch sports a rectangular face, and LG -- which calls itself a "lead partner" in the Android Wear initiative -- touts the watch's low barrier to entry for developers.

"The opportunity to work with Google on LG G Watch was the perfect chance for LG to really pull out all stops in both design and engineering," said Dr. Jong-seok Park, president and CEO of LG Electronics Mobile Communications Company.

Neither company announced pricing information or hardware specifications, though both devices are expected to hit shelves this summer. Fashion brand Fossil is also planning an Android Wear-powered watch, but has yet to release details.

Google unveiled Android Wear, an initiative designed to adapt the company's Android platform for wearable devices, earlier Monday. Android Wear will provide hardware partners with access to frameworks for mobile notifications, "OK Google" digital assistant support, built-in health and fitness tracking, and two-way synchronization with Android handsets.
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Looks like a lot of watch! If I were to wear a time piece no matter who made it, it better be such that I don't realize I have something on my wrist!

I have found only one watch that is streamline enough for my tastes, and I don't even wear that... very often.

Nice video of the Motorola watch. I wonder if the boys in Cupertino ever thought about the various department head VP of this, VP of that ever getting out and doing a video for an Apple product? 1rolleyes.gif

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Motorola has a website up already for the 360.
http://moto360.motorola.com/
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What a waste of time, resources and money%u2026 Why would anyone sane buy this crap? We've got smartphones for these things, even for, yeah - showing what TIME is it!

I haven't used a watch since 1999 when they accidentally went swimming and when I got my first mobile (Nokia 6110) I never felt I need something on my wrist.
The only thing I'm willing to put on my hand again must be more than just something spawned from a bad one night stand between a Watch and Android.

I bet that Jony, Tim & co are rolling in tears when they see these idiotic products being introduced by clueless competitors%u2026
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Wait until Apple releases a round smartwatch and everyone screams bloody murder for copying Motorola.

 

All while conveniently forgetting there have been several round iWatch renders and designs done by third parties that are over 1 year old now.

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Wait until Apple releases a round smartwatch and everyone screams bloody murder for copying Motorola.

 

All while conveniently forgetting there have been several round iWatch renders and designs done by third parties that are over 1 year old now.

But not from Apple. Third party renders from people that think Apple might do something doesnt count. Unless of course I missed an official Apple piece.
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Wait until Apple releases a round smartwatch and Samsung screams prior art for copying Robert Dudley.

 

Fixed. :p 

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Wait until Apple releases a round smartwatch and everyone screams bloody murder for copying Motorola.

All while conveniently forgetting there have been several round iWatch renders and designs done by third parties that are over 1 year old now.

What do iWatch renders by fanboys have to do with Motorola's Moto 360 or a hypothetical production Apple iWatch?
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LG needs to go back to the drawing board on their design.

Motorola has it right.


They have the right idea with the round display (which they did on the $2000 Aura in 2008), thin bezel, and more jewelry-like appearance as compared to other "smart" watches, but I wouldn't say they have it right.

The display is too large to be unisex and probably even too large to appeal to most non-geeks (unless they can change the culture like we've seen with smartphone sizes).
The casing is too thick.
No evidence of advanced biometrics which I believe are key.
The round display gives rise to cost and production concerns.
The thin bezel is great but I wonder if the final product will different.
No info on specs like the PPI, processor, display type, or battery life make me wonder how this can be ready this Summer.
The bright, mostly white display being shown seems to be strikingly different from what I'd expect from a device with a small battery.

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Motorola has it right.

I am not so sure. I wonder if the 'classic watch' look will get tired rather quickly. 

 

I think the Google video (last thread) did a great job of showing the potential of a wrist device beyond the medical/fitness applications. They made it look fun and youthful, though still geeky. 

 

The advances will be fast and furious for certain. I suspect that the 'look' will be important but there are so many other variables such as functionality (not just what it 'can' do, but whether it actually works flawlessly), and battery life, that will determine whether the device will be truly a game changer. 

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How fragmented will the Android wearable market become. We've all seen what happened to Android. Fork this, fork that.
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Fork this, fork that.

 

Android Edibles. Because Google wants to be inside you without buying you a drink first.

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What a waste of time, resources and money%u2026 Why would anyone sane buy this crap? We've got smartphones for these things, even for, yeah - showing what TIME is it!

I haven't used a watch since 1999 when they accidentally went swimming and when I got my first mobile (Nokia 6110) I never felt I need something on my wrist.
The only thing I'm willing to put on my hand again must be more than just something spawned from a bad one night stand between a Watch and Android.

I bet that Jony, Tim & co are rolling in tears when they see these idiotic products being introduced by clueless competitors%u2026

1) Your assumption is that a wrist-worn wearable should be for primarily telling time and mirroring other features of a smartphone. I don't think this is what Apple has in mind.

2) Watches a huge business even today.

3) I can't conceive of a future where wearable electronics aren't a major part.

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Bless their hearts. They're trying so hard to emulate Apple, but they just. don't. get. it.

A round smartwatch is the dumbest idea I've heard in a long time. Good job blowing money on R&D just to be different.
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It seems any company who launches any product, no matter how incremental or insignificant it is, are yelping how their product is so "innovative" and a total "game changer". They're watering-down those terms to a point where one starts to look for new adjectives to describe what these terms once meant.

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A round smartwatch is the dumbest idea I've heard in a long time.

Why? It's certainly harder to produce a round display but I think it's the right direction for a wrist-worn device that needs to maintain the same appeal as a high-end watch.

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It seems any company who launches any product, no matter how incremental or insignificant it is, are yelping how their product is so "innovative" and a total "game changer". They're watering-down those terms to a point where one starts to look for new adjectives to describe what these terms once meant.

We already have a term for adding water to poop. Diarrhea.

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Bless their hearts. They're trying so hard to emulate Apple, but they just. don't. get. it.

A round smartwatch is the dumbest idea I've heard in a long time. Good job blowing money on R&D just to be different.

What if you.just.don't.get.it?

I think this a remarkably beautiful design for a smart-watch. I believe the key to developing a popular design is to make it either look very similar to the most prevalent watch form factor, which is round, or make it radically different - such as curving around the wrist.

Providing the battery life is at least 3 days on a single charge, I think these will be very popular with geeks and non-geeks alike.
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While we're still waiting on complete specs, what else do you think Apple can do different? 

Advanced biometrics (which don't look present by looking at the bottom of the rendered device), smaller size or sizes, thinner design, more classic design, better fit and finish, better UI, better battery life (which I interpret as using something like OLED with a light coloured Thin Helvetica Neue font on a black background to reduce power consumption), and a general lack of trying to make it a watch that has smartphone capabilities but rather a wrist-worn wearable that complements the iPhone and perhaps other Apple devices, like a secure BT system that will auto lock/unlock my iDevices and Macs based on proximity.

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Keep note of all these devices. I wish AI would make a nice comparison once the iwatch comes out.
A round design is a nice departure from what all others have been doing though.
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Keep note of all these devices. I wish AI would make a nice comparison once the iwatch comes out.
A round design is a nice departure from what all others have been doing though.

Remember all those ill-fated tablets that arrived at CES 2010 with no specs or pricing?


edit: Looks like "under $1000" was a popular phrase for booth owners that year. Also note that pre-iPad was when it was still OK to call them tablet PCs.

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We already have a term for adding water to poop. Diarrhea.

I thought that was a bioga?

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What do iWatch renders by fanboys have to do with Motorola's Moto 360 or a hypothetical production Apple iWatch?

 

What do notifications by jailbreakers have to do with Android's notification system?

 

Same thing. Haters love to claim Apple copied Android/Samsung/Whoever while ignoring the fact the same ideas were around long before EITHER of them had an actual product/feature.

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What do notifications by jailbreakers have to do with Android's notification system?

Same thing. Haters love to claim Apple copied Android/Samsung/Whoever while ignoring the fact the same ideas were around long before EITHER of them had an actual product/feature.

Jailbreakers did not have a notification bar on an iPhone before it had already been demoed on Android. IMHO the jailbreakers themselves may have borrowed the (very good)i idea from the Android intro videos that appeared a few months before. Just in case you thought otherwise as it's seems to be a common misconception. Apparently it didn't bother Google in any event so it really doesn't matter at the end of the day.
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What do notifications by jailbreakers have to do with Android's notification system?

 

Same thing. Haters love to claim Apple copied Android/Samsung/Whoever while ignoring the fact the same ideas were around long before EITHER of them had an actual product/feature.

 

What jailbreaker notifications came before the ones on Android?

 

And no, Apple didn't copy Android notifications

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What jailbreaker notifications came before the ones on Android?

And no, Apple didn't copy Android notifications
Nor would it concern Google if they had IMO.
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Remember all those ill-fated tablets that arrived at CES 2010 with no specs or pricing?


edit: Looks like "under $1000" was a popular phrase for booth owners that year. Also note that pre-iPad was when it was still OK to call them tablet PCs.

I perfectly remember when people thought the Apple tablet would cost around 800$, and no one seemed to be shocked by the price. And now some people say it's too expensive lol
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They have the right idea with the round display (which they did on the $2000 Aura in 2008), thin bezel, and more jewelry-like appearance as compared to other "smart" watches, but I wouldn't say they have it right.

The display is too large to be unisex and probably even too large to appeal to most non-geeks (unless they can change the culture like we've seen with smartphone sizes).
The casing is too thick.
No evidence of advanced biometrics which I believe are key.
The round display gives rise to cost and production concerns.
The thin bezel is great but I wonder if the final product will different.
No info on specs like the PPI, processor, display type, or battery life make me wonder how this can be ready this Summer.
The bright, mostly white display being shown seems to be strikingly different from what I'd expect from a device with a small battery.

You are correct as soon as I saw it i thought of the Auro product which was designed for the rich and famous but they hardly sold any, They must have pull the design out of moth balls since the Auro was suppose to do what the watch does today.

 

As you pointed out no spec on the product and battery life is key, if you have to charge it up every day it is a deal breaker even once a week could be trouble some. 

 

But I will say it again, watch the kids and what they do, they do not wear watches. Those people who do wear a watch do it for a fashion statement more than anything else.

 

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I just don't see this being successful. Manufacturers can barely make Android devices responsive with octo-core processors.
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I quite like the hardware design of the 360; maybe a bit on the thick side, but otherwise quite sleek, and not too big.

 

But what little they've shown of the software looks very uninspiring.  Pretty, but nothing much to be interested in.

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I like the look of the 360 but it is a little too big for my taste. If it is responsive, shock resistant and water resistant it may sell well. I guess we will find out in good time...

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If this actually works I would consider buying it if it is compatible with my iphone. I think the design is great and doesn't actually look geeky. Thumbs up for them but it all depends on how it operates.
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You are correct as soon as I saw it i thought of the Auro product which was designed for the rich and famous but they hardly sold any, They must have pull the design out of moth balls since the Auro was suppose to do what the watch does today.

As you pointed out no spec on the product and battery life is key, if you have to charge it up every day it is a deal breaker even once a week could be trouble some. 

But I will say it again, watch the kids and what they do, they do not wear watches. Those people who do wear a watch do it for a fashion statement more than anything else.



I used to have a V70, now that to me is a "tiny screen" not this nonsense about iPhone screen size.
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Be notified these wearable devices are gimmicks.  What the video purposely not showing is it requires an Android smartphone nearby.  Most of the functions will not work without the phone.  This is the same as the much hyped Google Glass.  these devices are simply bluetooth accessories.  And these deivces will cost hundreds of dollars up to fifteen hundred dollars for the Glass.  They are only suitable for hobbyists. 

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I like how these useless companies need to wait for someone else to announce software, before they can shit out a hardware product. Clearly, a shitload of thought went into these..
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It seems any company who launches any product, no matter how incremental or insignificant it is, are yelping how their product is so "innovative" and a total "game changer". They're watering-down those terms to a point where one starts to look for new adjectives to describe what these terms once meant.

You've pre-empted what I was going to say. I’ll say it anyway.

Oh, Motorola. That Moto 360 vid is trying so hard to be an Apple wannabe. All the buzz words are there, the music, the engineers. But where's the substance? It tells us precious little of what the watch is going to do or be like. I don't know why they release a video like this without a full-blown presentation.
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They have the right idea with the round display (which they did on the $2000 Aura in 2008), thin bezel, and more jewelry-like appearance as compared to other "smart" watches, but I wouldn't say they have it right.

The display is too large to be unisex and probably even too large to appeal to most non-geeks (unless they can change the culture like we've seen with smartphone sizes).
The casing is too thick.
No evidence of advanced biometrics which I believe are key.
The round display gives rise to cost and production concerns.
The thin bezel is great but I wonder if the final product will different.
No info on specs like the PPI, processor, display type, or battery life make me wonder how this can be ready this Summer.
The bright, mostly white display being shown seems to be strikingly different from what I'd expect from a device with a small battery.

Spot on. My first thought was, It's not thin enough. I agree biometrics is a key component. It's like I woke up this morning and everyone in the USA is 30-100 pounds overweight.

 

The watch is a good try. More manufacturers should be concerned with quality (like Apple) instead of putting out plastic Googley crap products. 

 

P.S. Did anyone see my letter to the editor in this month's MacWorld (April 2014) "Photo Power-CLH126?" I've been "published!" Yepeeeeeee! :)

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Be notified these wearable devices are gimmicks.  What the video purposely not showing is it requires an Android smartphone nearby.  Most of the functions will not work without the phone.  This is the same as the much hyped Google Glass.  these devices are simply bluetooth accessories.  And these deivces will cost hundreds of dollars up to fifteen hundred dollars for the Glass.  They are only suitable for hobbyists. 

I agree...All I want really from Apple is a Heart Rate Monitor on my wrist. Designed by Apple with Apple's customary top-notch software.

 

As a distance trail runner, it is imperative I stay in a fat burning zone which is a certain heart rate (180-age). So right now, my running HR is 125BPM and my mile times are around 14'/mile (pretty slow).

 

But, 4 months ago my times were 18'/mile at the same HR.

 

In another 12-18 months, my HR will still be 125 but my times will be around 7'-9'/mile. All the while burning fat not sugar. 

 

The human body (Liver, blood, muscles), has about 90 minutes of energy (Anaerobic). But even the fittest olympic athlete with <5% body fat has enough stored energy (fat) to run a 1,000 miles. All I want to run is 50 miles.

 

A little known fact, is that one of the keys to human success is we have the ability to outrun just about every animal on the planet! :)

 

Sorry, probably should post this on a different site! :)

 

Best.

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You've pre-empted what I was going to say. I’ll say it anyway.

Oh, Motorola. That Moto 360 vid is trying so hard to be an Apple wannabe. All the buzz words are there, the music, the engineers. But where's the substance? It tells us precious little of what the watch is going to do or be like. I don't know why they release a video like this without a full-blown presentation.

 

Yep. I was rolling my eyes throughout the entire video at how desperately it was trying to channel Apple product videos- in every single respect. So, so sad. 

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The Motorola effort doesn't look too bad, but my bet is on e-ink being involved if there is an Apple wrist device on the way.

 

Colour e-ink is not seen in production yet.... but the greyscale e-ink requires power only when screen image needs changing, so would reduce power needed dramatically (with low power bluetooth).

Take the idea of an automatic wristwatch - and use human movement to power an electric generator to reduce or completely remove charging issues...

 

I've posted a pic of this watch before - it has lcd screen, but has an elctrical generating and storage system, and has decent surface available for screen(s)...

 

 

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Dumb dumb & dumb!

Fixed for you.
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