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One more thing: Sony Ericsson will also announced the <a href="http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?page=C2_1_58&B=ie" target="_blank">T608 CDMA version</a> of this Bluetooth phone for the US market. It's due to ship in Q2 like the other models.
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post #42 of 106
One last thing: I couldn't find info about the T610's screen size. Is it the same size as the T68i? According to some reports, the T610 is based on the T68, so the interface is very similar. But it adds more colors on the screen and a built-in camera. I don't really care about the camera or more colors, only about a bigger screen to show more of my calendar. If the T610's screen isn't any bigger than the T68's, I might as well get a free T68 now.

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post #43 of 106
I take it all back. It's badasssssss.

"Aluminium panels, anodized with color themes that resemble the elements of nature, caught between darkness and light". It is not hard to see why Industrial Designer Erik Ahlgren almost gets poetic when it comes to the T610."

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post #44 of 106
Yes, the screen is bigger.
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post #45 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by audiopollution:
<strong>Yes, the screen is bigger.</strong><hr></blockquote>

audiopollution: Great. I guess I'll have to wait then. What about the GUI? I hear it's based on the T68i. Did they manage to make it more responsive? Or will we continue to hear complaints about a sluggish interface?

Harald: I agree. The T610's design is odd but beautiful. Kind of like the old Saab 900. In any case, I find it much more practical, in terms of portability and pocketability, than the P800. Did you read the announcement that Handango would start a special area with applications for the P800?

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post #46 of 106
anyone have idea on price?

My absolute favorite phone now is the Nokia 3650 and seeing this new SE phone had me hesitate.

BUT its missing many cool things compared to 3650:

No video recording, no expandable memory, smaller display.

On the other hand it seems that the SE is slightly smaller and has 65K colors (sompared to 4.5K on the Nokia)

I would still stick with Nokia if I had to choose.
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post #48 of 106
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The t610 is 95 grams.
The 3650 is 130 grams.

Thats a big difference. The 3650 is closer to the 7650.
The T610 is almost as light as the T68i.

The bluetooth music player makes me think. A bluetooth ipod, width wireless earphones... drool...
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post #49 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by ZO:
<strong>anyone have idea on price?</strong><hr></blockquote>

This <a href="http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-990924.html" target="_blank">ZDNet article</a> lists the price as $710US. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

[quote]From the t610 specifications page:
<strong> DRM (Digital Rights Management)</strong><hr></blockquote>

&lt;sarcasm&gt;Just what I've always wanted in a phone!&lt;/sarcasm&gt;
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[quote]Originally posted by Defiant:
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That's a great comparison image, Defiant. (I already posted the other one furter up in this thread, on page 1.) Even though the T610 is very square, it is smaller than the T68i. And look at that large screen! Yum! If only I could get a T610 right away... The free T68i from Amazon/T-Mobile is still tempting me.

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post #52 of 106
How about those colors on the T610? (Click thumbnail for a larger image.)

<a href="http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=18292" target="_blank"></a>

I fancy Bordeaux. But the Blue one is nice too.

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post #53 of 106
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I think I'll go for the white... No, hang on, I'm waiting for something else...
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post #54 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>That's a great comparison image, Defiant. (I already posted the other one furter up in this thread, on page 1.) </strong><hr></blockquote>

I know that it is. You were asking for it, you got it.

The first image of mine though, hasn't been posted before. a similiar, yes, but not the same.
post #55 of 106
From the SE CeBit 2003 site &gt; Products &gt; T610 &gt; Connectivity:

[quote]Over the air synchronization is seamless with SyncML and Mac users can enjoy an equally smooth experience via Apple iSync.<hr></blockquote>
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post #56 of 106
WOW its small... I'd say 2/3rd size of 3650.

still, would rather have 3650 overall.

And DAMN its expensive
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post #57 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by New:
<strong>I think I'll go for the white... No, hang on, I'm waiting for something else...</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm with you on that.
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post #58 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by New:
<strong>I think I'll go for the white... No, hang on, I'm waiting for something else...</strong><hr></blockquote>

[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>I'm with you on that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh dear, how slow I am. It took me a while to figure out what "color" you guys were talking about.

Always wait, wait, wait. I want to buy, buy, buy!

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post #59 of 106
Mobile Burn has posted the <a href="http://mobile.burn.com/news.jsp?Id=247" target="_blank">first real-life T610 pictures</a>.



Yum!

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post #60 of 106
Not really the first... check out <a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/" target="_blank">http://www.phonescoop.com/</a> and <a href="http://www.threegmobile.net/" target="_blank">http://www.threegmobile.net/</a> -- they had real life photos yesterday, less blurry too

Overall the T610 is sexy, and the 3650 is not sexy. Video schmideo.. it's a mobile phone. There's even a comparison picture on 3GM.

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post #61 of 106
The T608 and T606 are not quite as spectacular <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

<a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/semc_2003/" target="_blank">http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/semc_2003/</a>
post #62 of 106
My question is: Does the T610 have better reception than the T68i? I have only one complaint with my T68i, and it's about the poor reception. I get dropped calls every once in a while, I very rarely seem to get a very strong signal... and I'm in the middle of Los Angeles for cripes sake. Most of the time it works but even in my house it's marginal.

Compare that to my previous phone, a digital Nokia, which had perfect reception in our house and just about everywhere else. I mean the toys on the T68i are great, I sync it to my Mac, I use S-E Clicker which is awesome... but it's a PHONE. If it doesn't work when I need it to then what's the point?

So somebody please tell me they cleared that up with the T610 and I'll upgrade to it when it's available. BTW I'm using AT&T service, which is what I was using with our Nokia.
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post #63 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by frawgz:
<strong>The T608 and T606 are not quite as spectacular <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Does it look to you guys like the T608 has the same-size screen as the T68i? :confused: Sony Ericsson is pushing me toward the free T68i on Amazon.

I'm loosing balance on top of the proverbial fence. Where will I fall?

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post #64 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>Does it look to you guys like the T608 has the same-size screen as the T68i? :confused:</strong><hr></blockquote>

So, really.. is the T610 the T68i's successor or is it the T608/T606 pair? Seems much more like the latter.. Damn! I want a T610!
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post #66 of 106
Do we know if the T610 will work with iSync?
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post #67 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by Addison:
<strong>Do we know if the T610 will work with iSync?</strong><hr></blockquote>

According to the chap from Germany earlier on in this thread, this phone will work with iSync. It appears that's it's OS contact and calendar dl features are the same as the t68i. I found these site informative (and linguistically entertaining) as well. You might check them out.

Photos: <a href="http://www.shell.linux.se/spectrum/new_se/" target="_blank">http://www.shell.linux.se/spectrum/new_se/</a>
Review: <a href="http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-t610-en.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-t610-en.shtml</a>

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Yep.. JB72 also answered this question above on the same page.
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[quote]Originally posted by frawgz:
<strong>Yep.. JB72 also answered this question above on the same page.</strong><hr></blockquote>


TY frawgz .

I also sent the quote to <a href="http://www.macminute.com" target="_blank">Macminute</a> so they could mention it in their blurb.
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FRom the <a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/semc_2003/index.php?p=2" target="_blank">SE NY 2003 product launch</a>:


It's nice to see Sony include these Apple products in their slides.
[quote]Sony Ericsson has always been a leader in Bluetooth technology, and that continues with today's new phones. Interestingly, it was specifically mentioned that Apple has made a big deal about wanting more Bluetooth phones on the market.<hr></blockquote>


I have to wonder whether Sony Ericsson sees us Macheads as the "Profesional Pioneers" or the "Selective Pioneers?" Or maybe just the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004SUYJ/104-1854958-0100760?vi=glance" target="_blank">"Pioneers Who Got Scalped"</a>.



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[quote]Originally posted by Xaqtly:
<strong>My question is: Does the T610 have better reception than the T68i? I have only one complaint with my T68i, and it's about the poor reception. I get dropped calls every once in a while, I very rarely seem to get a very strong signal... and I'm in the middle of Los Angeles for cripes sake. Most of the time it works but even in my house it's marginal.

Compare that to my previous phone, a digital Nokia, which had perfect reception in our house and just about everywhere else. I mean the toys on the T68i are great, I sync it to my Mac, I use S-E Clicker which is awesome... but it's a PHONE. If it doesn't work when I need it to then what's the point?

So somebody please tell me they cleared that up with the T610 and I'll upgrade to it when it's available. BTW I'm using AT&T service, which is what I was using with our Nokia.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The T68i is YEARS old, back from Ericsson days even, and the problem was fixed a long time ago. People were just willing to accept it to have a T68i, so they sold well. And providers didn't mind if you had a few more dropped calls to use up your minutes. Anyway, RF on the T300, for instance, is outstanding, so I imagine it'll only be better with the T610. I wonder how the aluminum shell will impact it, if at all.
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post #72 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by ZO:
<strong>anyone have idea on price?

My absolute favorite phone now is the Nokia 3650 and seeing this new SE phone had me hesitate.

BUT its missing many cool things compared to 3650:

No video recording, no expandable memory, smaller display.

On the other hand it seems that the SE is slightly smaller and has 65K colors (sompared to 4.5K on the Nokia)

I would still stick with Nokia if I had to choose.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The 3650 is baaad. The keypad is the worst ever (writing sms takes forever) and the phone is biiiig. Pretty funky to look at, but it s*cks to use.

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With 3G still way off in the distance, I can see the T610 on my shopping list in six months - I love the T68i, but picture anything (MMS/messaging/emails/WAP2) is dreadful on a small, slow response, badly dithered, nasty palette, 256 colour screen!

Anyway, the T610 has the spec that I want in a GSM phone in the size/weight that I want, in a smart design that I want in my hand. And a Sony badge and a european design (apologies to the US readers) into the bargain. Cool - how often do you get for what you ask for? Just don't ask the price...

Hopefully SE have learnt the T68i/P800 lesson and don't have those products lead times to market (how long did we have to wait?).

CNet raved about the Nokia 3650, but it looks like a toy when putting it next to T610, so hopefully products like that will help SE claw back some share. Not that I dislike Nokia, or Motoroloa or Samsung or Siemens - but a bunch of healthy competitors in the phone market might stop it going the way of the PC market monopoly. And with many phone manufacturers sharing open-ish technology like Symbian, and largely sticking to standards (vCal, SyncML, MMS, etc) it's less likely to go that way. Not that MS won't try and do it their own way anyway.

Oh - here's my *theory* on people whining about T68i UI speed (understandably to some degree) - it's less the fault of the speed of the phone, more the screen reponse that's slow, try messaging without looking at the screen and it feels much quicker!
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[quote]Originally posted by bradbower:
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The T68i is YEARS old, back from Ericsson days even, and the problem was fixed a long time ago. People were just willing to accept it to have a T68i, so they sold well. And providers didn't mind if you had a few more dropped calls to use up your minutes. Anyway, RF on the T300, for instance, is outstanding, so I imagine it'll only be better with the T610. I wonder how the aluminum shell will impact it, if at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The New York Times ran a story today saying that the T610 has poor reception.

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/10/technology/10PHON.html?8hpib" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/10/technology/10PHON.html?8hpib</a>

[quote] "Not only is reception a lot poorer, but the phones eat up battery life, so there's less talk time," said Michael King, a mobile data analyst with Gartner, a market research group. Games are nice, but "the majority of the time, we're talking on these things," Mr. King said. "If they can't do that well, what's the point really?"

Research from Ethertronics, a San Diego company that researches antenna capacity and manufacturers mobile-phone antennas, indicates that, all other things being equal, the radio strength of today's phones with internal antennas is 15 percent to 20 percent less powerful than that of phones with external antennas.
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post #75 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by jante99:
<strong>The New York Times ran a story today saying that the T610 has poor reception.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The NYT article actually only says that in general phones with external antennas have better reception than phones with internal antennas. The online version of the article pictures a T610 in the sidebar as an example of a phone with an internal antenna. But the article does not say specifically that the T610 has poor reception.

The article makes one other important point on the subject of internal antennas. If you're in an area with dense cell-tower coverage (typically in cities), you won't notice the slightly reduced reception.

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Mebbe not the right thread for it but here we go,

Guess this thing was real afterall:

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[quote]Originally posted by New:
<strong>Mebbe not the right thread for it but here we go,

Guess this thing was real afterall

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What thing? The Siemens SL55? Well, it is not more or less than a slide-open-keyboard version of the S55 already available.
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we had some pictures of it here months ago, but dismissed it as fake.
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post #79 of 106
i just played with one of these for 5 minutes today:



its a *beast*. its massive, i mean huge...

i have a nokia 6310i. its 1.5 times as long and wider, but the same thickness. but the streaming video was very impressive!

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[quote]Originally posted by othello:
<strong>i just played with one of these for 5 minutes today:</strong><hr></blockquote>

So what is it, othello? (Expected) availability? Any hopes of Mac compatibility?

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