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post #81 of 106
well, a rep came into our studio and he had one -- '3' have given him one on a couple of months trial (so they can convince him to buy them for his business). he let me have a quick go, but he was watching me like a hawk and i only had a couple of minutes...

it has bluetooth, but i don't know if it will sync -- its a motorola who have been very quiet on the mac/bluetooth front. so who knows.

the screen quality was ok, as he showed me a movie playing off it. a bit jerky and not that smooth, but not bad considering its a phone!

the thing that shocked me was the size and weight. you just won't believe how big it is until you see it. imagine a nokia communicator, not as thick...
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post #82 of 106
[quote]Originally posted by othello:
<strong>it has bluetooth, but i don't know if it will sync -- its a motorola who have been very quiet on the mac/bluetooth front. so who knows.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Interesting. So it's not that you're hiding secret information. You just don't know. Did you take any pictures, other than the one you already posted?

[quote]<strong>the thing that shocked me was the size and weight. you just won't believe how big it is until you see it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have to admit that I don't mind a slightly larger design, as long as it is thin and relatively light. IMO, the incredible shrinking feats performed by recent mobile phones have hurt ergonomics. A slightly larger, but thin and light, phone would indicate the same philosophy that is behind the iBook and 12-inch PowerBook: Make it small and light, but not so small as to ruin ergonomic use.

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post #83 of 106
nope, no top secret info here just first hand experience!

sorry, no pics -- he had it back in his pocket pretty quick (i think 3 have made him sign away his first born if it gets damaged). it did have a rather nifty rotating camera built into the phone mind!

he is coming in later, so i might try and get him within range of my powerbook and see if i can get him via bluetooth.

i have to agree with you on size -- i really like my 6310i, even though its bigger than some phones. its just right for me.

the motorola is as long as a nokia communicator, if not longer and about as wide. its about as thin as my 6310i, but weighs a lot. i mean a lot
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post #84 of 106
Well, I have yet to find a site with any kind of a firm release date for the T610/T616, but I'm guessing on or before June 2, because of this link on the Sony Ericsson site.

Yep, if you go to the /t610 directory you get the preview marketing fluff, but if you go to /t616--ostensibly the US version of the same phone, you get:

t-six-ten
The world's first online
mobile imaging magazine

20 days to go.

Which leads to several surmises:
1. The US version of the phone now might also be called the T610...not surprising given the considerable anticipation of this model.
2. They can't very well have a magazine without any contributors, so it seems likely that the phone will get a UK and/or US release by June 2 (20 days from now).
3. This might actually be the first phone where having a camera in is more than a soon-ignored novelty. Using the MMS capabilities to build a user imaging community could build the kind of cult fan-base you see around other lo-fi imaging tools like the Pencams or Lomos. Smart move, if they do it right.

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post #85 of 106
This is as close as I've got to a confirmed date for the UK. (June)

http://www3.carphonewarehouse.com/co...omingsoon-Main

Not sure what this means for those of you in the US.
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post #86 of 106
Call Me AlBook: I'm glad you dug up this old T610 thread. I'm still waiting with great anticipation for this phone to hit the market. There's a good chance the release of the T610 will coincide with the release of iSync 1.1. As a matter of fact, Think Secret just posted a revised iSync 1.1 article for our enjoyment.

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Yep, if you go to the /t610 directory you get the preview marketing fluff, but if you go to /t616--ostensibly the US version of the same phone, you get:

t-six-ten

What an awesome find, Call Me AlBook! It really sounds like Sony Ericsson has big plans beyond the handset itself for the T610. I have to wonder whether Apple will be involved in the T610 launch.

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post #87 of 106
It's already supported in 10.2.6.

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The following are some of the enhancements delivered with the Mac OS X 10.2.6 Update:

- Address Book now supports the Sony Ericsson T610 phone.
post #88 of 106
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It's already supported in 10.2.6.

You're absolutely right, Arty50. Maybe iSync 1.1 will support Apple's version of the T610, aka the purely hypothetical iPhone. And of course, because the T610 has yet to ship, nobody has been able to verify whether 10.2.6 really works with the T610.

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post #89 of 106
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And of course, because the T610 has yet to ship, nobody has been able to verify whether 10.2.6 really works with the T610.

It is out and seems to work
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post #90 of 106
Thanks for the link GSpotter. I'll be following that thread intently since I'm in dire need of a new phone.

And forgive me Escher if I read your post wrong, but of course it works. Why would Apple put that comment in the 10.2.6 notes if it didn't?
post #91 of 106
Further Updates:

- Sony Ericsson has also registered t-six-ten.com ...if you go there, you get the same countdown page you get from the T616 URL on their main site.

- According to recent discussion in the Yahoo Group for Salling Clicker (formerly known as Sony Ericsson Clicker), not only does the T610 play nice with OSX Bluetooth; it also supports roughly "95%" of the feature set of the current version of Clicker and works perfectly with iSync.

If things work this well with a prototype phone, the release version may well be the perfect companion phone to the Macintosh.
post #92 of 106
Thanks for the link, GSpotter. And Call Me AlBook, you're very well connected, aren't you?

Arty50: I'm sorry, I was just being the usual sceptic. I was thinking back to how long it took for the T68i to ship, especially in the US, and figured that it would take months until we could verify T610 compatibility. My fears were obviously unnecessary.

I already registered at T-SIX-TEN yesterday. Today we only have 29 days to go. I wonder if T-six-ten will be launched in connection with a T-Mobile campaign. Finally, the pictures on that website look to me like they were taken somewhere in industrial England. Of course, those chimneys and red brick factory buildings could be anywhere. Dunno...

BTW: The thread on HowardForums linked above featured a rotating ad for All Global, which sells the T610 for US$550, shipped directly from Europe. That's pretty damn steep if you ask me. I'll wait for a promotional bundle with service plan from T-Mobile.

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post #93 of 106
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Thanks for the link, GSpotter.

More infos from early T610 owners, you can find at the esato forum.
I'm also waiting for the release here. Prices seem to start here at 429 euro (inkl. 16% VAT)
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post #94 of 106
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I'm also waiting for the release here. Prices seem to start here at 429 euro (inkl. 16% VAT)

Danke für den Link, GSpotter. Vielleicht kann ich mir ein T610 Handy während meinen Sommerferien in Frankreich kaufen (wo der Preis wahrscheinlich ähnlich ist wie in Deutschland) und damit die exorbitanten US-import Preise vermeiden.

430 euro sounds quite a bit more reasonable, and that's with 16% value-added-tax. I bet the buys who sell European model mobiles at inflated prices in the US make a killing.

I still wonder whether Apple is going to come out with its own phone. I'll just wait and see...

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post #95 of 106
This Swedish person has already posted a review (in English) of the phone.

Early adopters beware...it looks like there are several reports of an annoying buzzing noise from the speaker.

Still, the overall reaction is very positive, and he/she provides more confirmation that it works beautifully with OSX and iSync and Clicker.
post #96 of 106
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Originally posted by Call Me AlBook
This Swedish person has already posted a review (in English) of the phone.

Early adopters beware...it looks like there are several reports of an annoying buzzing noise from the speaker.

Still, the overall reaction is very positive, and he/she provides more confirmation that it works beautifully with OSX and iSync and Clicker.

I had a go with one. It's a beautiful phone. Very interesting.
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I had a go with one. It's a beautiful phone. Very interesting.

Harald: Is there anything specific that is "interesting" about the T610? Are there any weak points to it? How might it be enhanced, by SE itself or by a third party?

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post #98 of 106
Hey Escher, no worries. I was sorta scratching my head over your posting wondering where the hell that was coming from. Now I understand.

I can't wait for this phone. I had a Nokia 8290 and loved it with the exception of it's craptastically fragile screen. I had two of them go dead. Then I got the 3390, a downgrade but more durable, and...well...meh. The 610 sounds killer though.
post #99 of 106
eWeek has posted a great new article about QuickTime 6.3, which will reportedly support mobile devices. I have to wonder whether Sony Ericsson's T610 and P800 phones will be among the supported mobile devices. My guess is yes.

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post #100 of 106
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Harald: Is there anything specific that is "interesting" about the T610? Are there any weak points to it? How might it be enhanced, by SE itself or by a third party?

Escher

Oooooooh boy. How long have you got?

Weak point: kicking off java and loading apps is slow.

Strong point: media bricks. Framework enabling various media elements to be stuck together ... downloading things as necessary. See it to believe it sort of stuff. And an old tech that they have had lying around for ages (was called brix).

If someone smart were to use it ...

Other strong points: lots and lots.
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post #101 of 106
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Oooooooh boy. How long have you got?

I have as much time as you're willing to give us!

So it sounds like the T610 has a very solid foundation, but isn't blazingly fast. Of course, I assume it's a vast improvement over the T68i, right? For my limited phone, contact, and calendar use, I imagine the T610 will be just fine. All I'm trying to do is replace my Palm, which I only use an address- and date-book anyway. (I didn't jump on the free T68i offers because of allegedly poor reception and smaller screen.)

Talking about using the T610 as a (limited) PDA substitute, can you turn off the phone part but keep using the device? This would be useful, e.g. to browse your schedule or play a Mophun game while in flight on a plane.

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I have as much time as you're willing to give us!

So it sounds like the T610 has a very solid foundation, but isn't blazingly fast. Of course, I assume it's a vast improvement over the T68i, right?
Talking about using the T610 as a (limited) PDA substitute, can you turn off the phone part but keep using the device? This would be useful, e.g. to browse your schedule or play a Mophun game while in flight on a plane.

Escher

Oh it's a different ball game, right down to build. Don't know if it has flight mode.
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post #103 of 106
My T68i just got nicked this passed weekend am in the market for a new phone, but can't quite convince myself that the P800 is worth £400-500, the T610 is looking good! Any ideas when it is available in the UK?

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post #104 of 106
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hmm, the speakerproblem sounds scary. I'll definitely wait until thats sorted out before buying.

I just got the Radio/handsfree set to my T68i, and its sweet! I'm wondering if that radio-sender to the ipod will allow me to listen to my ipod through the radio.

If Apple were to do something more with SE, then ipod-to-phone bluetooth integration would be nr. one on my wishlist...

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Official news is that SE now has fixed the speaker problem with the T610. So I guess it is now safe to buy. (Just make sure its new).

First impressions on the camera is that it sucks. Sorry, the quality of the pictures I've seen this far is really bad.

Other than that it seems very nice. can't wait to try it in person.
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post #106 of 106
According to Think Secret's third iSync report, we'll get iSync 1.1 in early June. There is a whole slew of phones which is going to be supported with this release, both via Bluetooth and USB-cable.

The T610 is certainly still at the top of my list. But I also like the Motorola T720, which will be supported via USB cable. If only the T720 were a tri-band (GSM) phone, and not just a US-centric dual-band model! If I go with GSM (instead of CDMA), I want to be able to use it in Europe, so nothing short of tri-band will do.

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