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A new report on North American adoption of smartphones found iPhone 5 gained users the fastest, building upon Apple's lead in U.S. and Canadian market share, but that Samsung phones displaced other Android devices, giving the Korean giant a plurality of Android's user base.

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The report, by Chitika Insights, profiled the web analytics of Apple's late 2012 iPhone 5 and Samsung's early 2013 Galaxy S4, charting (above) the adoption of each model over the first two months of each model's release.

"Just one week following the iPhone 5 hitting the shelves at U.S. and Canadian retailers," the report noted, "the device's users were already generating close to 4% of all iPhone traffic across the continent."

The report also observed (below) that, "despite Samsung not besting Apple in terms of adoption of its flagship smartphone, the Korean company has succeeded in dominating the North American Android marketplace."

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Overall, Chitika's comparative web traffic statistics indicate that Apple's share of all North American traffic grew by two percentage points between February 2013 and January 2014, increasing from 65 percent to 67 percent, while Samsung's declined by two points, falling from a 35 percent share to 33 percent.

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"Continental usage of Apple products generally outperform its market share," Chitika stated, "likely indicating that users are highly engaged with the company's devices as compared to those of its competitors. Samsung has invested heavily in the North American mobile marketplace, and its devices easily drive the most Android Web traffic."

Samsung's dominance among Android smartphones is a particular concern for Google, as the Korean conglomerate has been working to deliver its own Tizen, a Linux-based mobile operating system that the company wants to use as a drop in replacement for Google's Android.

The company has already migrated its watch product to use the new software instead of Android.
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So with Tizen is the intention to create another closed ecosystem?
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Just got an S4 from work. Use the Good system for corporate email etc. Still have the i5s as my personal phone.
After 1 week.... S4 is definitely not up to Apple build standard or android not as easy to use as iOS. But.... It ain't that bad. Really like the larger screen size.
If they did not have all the crapware it would be much better experience. Have to go in and turn it all off. Tons of junk apps. It appears Samsung is dumping the market with these phones. My upgrade at work was free, Verizon just announced get four for free etc. IMO if Apple comes out with a larger phone for the same price as today... Will be a bigger seller than it is now due to the larger size(I know thems fight'n words... Please no hate it's just an opinion 1smile.gif )
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I'm telling ya... Fandroids are going to get a brutal kick in the balls when Samsung - dominating Android - turns right around and throws that crap right out the door and brings in TizenOS.  It's what's going to happen, and Fandroids are just wandering around in denial.  Deers in the headlights.

Samsung is going to show the Fandroids just how tools they really were.  

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So with Tizen is the intention to create another closed ecosystem?


no, Tizen is an open source project

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no, Tizen is an open source project

So was Android, in the beginning. And all the geeks loved it because it proclaimed its "openness".

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Originally Posted by jfc1138 View Post

So with Tizen is the intention to create another closed ecosystem?

 

I think the intention is to allow Samsung to control its own destiny (in mobile).

First step is Gear 2, which runs Tizen.  Next step: Tizen-based Galaxy S6?.

 

(I've played with a Tizen smartphone and the UI is terribly ugly and clunky.  Long way to go.)

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Samsung's dominance among Android smartphones is a particular concern for Google, as the Korean conglomerate has been working to deliver its own Tizen, a Linux-based mobile operating system that the company wants to use as a drop in replacement for Google's Android.

 

There is absolutely no fact to this rumor. None. It is pure internet conjecture up there with the Apple TV set. Reporting it is fact is not even journalism now matter how many times you repeat it, is still just a lie, making this whole thing an editorial. 

 

Samsung went with Tizen for the Gear 2 largely because they had to; their own extension of Android was deplorable the first go around (as was that POS of a product) , and they insisted launching another one before Google could roll out their proper Android Wear SDK of which Samsung is actually a launch partner

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Just got an S4 from work. Use the Good system for corporate email etc. Still have the i5s as my personal phone.
After 1 week.... S4 is definitely not up to Apple build standard or android not as easy to use as iOS. But.... It ain't that bad. Really like the larger screen size.
If they did not have all the crapware it would be much better experience. Have to go in and turn it all off. Tons of junk apps. It appears Samsung is dumping the market with these phones. My upgrade at work was free, Verizon just announced get four for free etc. IMO if Apple comes out with a larger phone for the same price as today... Will be a bigger seller than it is now due to the larger size(I know thems fight'n words... Please no hate it's just an opinion 1smile.gif )

 

Not fighting words at all. Some people would love a larger iPhone. I'd say it's safe to say the 4" version will continue to be the big seller for a while yet, even with a 4.7" iPhone 6. Which I would argue will almost certainly be released this year.

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I do believe you may want to retrain your spell checker, because I think it's "Chitika" not Chikita... although it's all Bananas to Apples anyway... so the error reads right... 1smoking.gif

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Journalistic integrity? This site? Please. It's infected with Google ads to monetize regurgitated content from other sites, nothing more. It doesn't even present a complete palette of Apple news. Just cherry-picked, barely spell-checked clickbait for maximum return.

Except notably for DED's original pieces, which for all their flaws give the Apple vs. the barbarians the best epic treatment out there.

And the good discussions. Compare to the viper's nest of narcisso-cynicism at MacRumors, for example.
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Not fighting words at all. Some people would love a larger iPhone. I'd say it's safe to say the 4" version will continue to be the big seller for a while yet, even with a 4.7" iPhone 6. Which I would argue will almost certainly be released this year.

 

Yeah and Duke was a safe bet as well today. When people have a chance to use and hold a larger iPhone it will easily outsell the 4" version is my prediction. I am betting that is far bigger demand for a larger iPhone than anyone on AI can imagine and unless it is priced far higher will far outsell the 4" 


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Yeah and Duke was a safe bet as well today. When people have a chance to use and hold a larger iPhone it will easily outsell the 4" version is my prediction. I am betting that is far bigger demand for a larger iPhone than anyone on AI can imagine and unless it is proved far higher will far outsell the 4" 

I can imagine it on 3 points

1) it will be the lightest 'feeling' big phone out there

2) Apple's Target Market is 5 years older, (and their eyes are aging maybe even faster, due to staring at 3.5" screens for 3 years)

3) new phones always outsell last years model (The rule of thumb was that by the time a model 'retires' it will have sold as many as all prior iPhones combined.... I don't know that will be true in a couple years when saturation starts to occur).

 

After the 'rush', I do think that there will be a 'tiering' of phones where the 'c' and 's' series will be at 4" and a 'p' (Presbyopia;-)at 5-ish" and the sales distribution will be 30%-40%-30%   the s and the p will be same specs just different sizes, and the 'c' will be 'last years' specs.

 

thus I think the fall 2014 product line will be

5c 8gb 4" (0.99)

6c  4"  (99)

5s 4"   (149)  (touchID)

6p  (6s will follow next year) 5.001"  ($199) (touchID)

ipad Mini 8"  (349)  

ipad 4 (399)

iPad air  10"  (449)  (new model touchID)

iPad Pro 12"  (549) (TouchID)

 

Strong lineup and every price point and 'eye-test' covered;-)

 

-ToG

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There is absolutely no fact to this rumor. None. It is pure internet conjecture up there with the Apple TV set. Reporting it is fact is not even journalism now matter how many times you repeat it, is still just a lie, making this whole thing an editorial. 

 

Samsung went with Tizen for the Gear 2 largely because they had to; their own extension of Android was deplorable the first go around (as was that POS of a product) , and they insisted launching another one before Google could roll out their proper Android Wear SDK of which Samsung is actually a launch partner

 

Samsung is also a launch partner for Windows Phone. That doesn’t mean anything. 

 

Your initial complaint, alleging that a link to Samsung CEO’s outlining his company’s plans for Tizen amounts to "pure conjecture" and "a lie," is so demonstrably disconnected from reality that you should probably see a doctor about your cognitive dissonance issue.

 

Tim Cook isn’t going to journalists and telling them that Apple has plans for an "Apple TV set" that is "more than just an Apple TV set."

 

"Samsung co-CEO J.K. Shin was very bullish on the prospects for Tizen in an interview with CNet this week, calling the operating system more than a 'simple alternative for Android.'" 

 

Note the difference? 

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Samsung is also a launch partner for Windows Phone. That doesn’t mean anything. 

Your initial complaint, alleging that a link to Samsung CEO’s outlining his company’s plans for Tizen amounts to "pure conjecture" and "a lie," is so demonstrably disconnected from reality that you should probably see a doctor about your cognitive dissonance issue.

Tim Cook isn’t going to journalists and telling them that Apple has plans for an "Apple TV set" that is "more than just an Apple TV set."

"Samsung co-CEO J.K. Shin was very bullish on the prospects for Tizen in an interview with CNet this week, calling the operating system more than a 'simple alternative for Android.'" 

Note the difference? 

Typical Daniel, rely on lofty insults and stupidity than facts. By all means point me to a link that he says he wants to drop in replace android with tizen as you wrote in your article, vs what Tizen is as a PR piece since they are a backer of the platform. Oh that's right it doesn't exist. In fact you prove my point by bringing up windows phone. Just because if they make a tizen phone, it does not translate to looking at a drop in replacement for Android as fact . Merely another platform to support. Perhaps your distortion of factual reality has gotten too strong.
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Typical Daniel, rely on lofty insults and stupidity than facts. By all means point me to a link that he says he wants to drop in replace android with tizen as you wrote in your article, vs what Tizen is as a PR piece since they are a backer of the platform. Oh that's right it doesn't exist. In fact you prove my point by bringing up windows phone. Just because if they make a tizen phone, it does not translate to looking at a drop in replacement for Android as fact . Merely another platform to support. Perhaps your distortion of factual reality has gotten too strong.

 

He is openly speculating on the future- which as a general rule makes it difficult to find facts since none of said speculative events have happened yet.  For more information on this phenomena see the term 'analyst.'  He *did* provide a quote from a Samsung honcho indicating they have bullish prospects for Tizen.  Just to get your perspective, why do you think Samsung is pumping huge sums of money into Tizen?  Because they love "open"?  I have to agree with Daniel on this one, Samsung would absolutely love it if Tizen could become a drop in replacement for Android and they could get rid of those pesky criteria that Google throws in there all too often.

 

But just because Samsung would love to pull off Tizen as a drop in replacement, and just because Daniel has all but proclaimed it as reality based mostly on one quote and a whole lot of wishful thinking, driven mostly by his blinding and vitriolic hatred of all things Android (and I mean that as a compliment on this site)- doesn't make it very likely to happen.  I think your speculation on the future of Tizen is far more plausible as a potential reality.  Samsung will roll out Tizen in addition to their Android and Windows mobile lineups.  They are going to face the same challenges Windows phone faces, and more than likely it will flop.  A lot of the best things about current Samsung phones is driven by the very things Samsung hates.  If Samsung gets total control of their phones, they could 'Apple' the phone which is the very thing many of their Android users hate.  Will Samsung force their users to use their crappy keyboard?  Will they not be able to change the default browser?  Will they prioritize their bloat or even take it to the level of kicking out anything that duplicates their 'core' functionality?  Will they allow some other Apps that duplicate some functionality, but inherently cripple them, making their own offerings seem magically better?  They will have that ability with Tizen, and will probably 'copy Apple' in doing all of the above.

 

Android users will simply say 'no thanks' and continue to wish for the day someone builds a Nexus phone with the specs to bring it.  So close, Nexus 5, yet so far :(  

 

Personally, I welcome Tizen.  If it's better than Android than I'd be happy to switch.  I really don't see that as likely as Samsung's whole point of delivering it is so that they can, well... Samsung it.  Blech.  If Apple's big screen phone steps up its game and gives me the freedom to customize certain things, and beats both Android and Tizen for my particular taste and purposes, then hello again Apple.

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Journalistic integrity? This site? Please. It's infected with Google ads to monetize regurgitated content from other sites, nothing more. It doesn't even present a complete palette of Apple news. Just cherry-picked, barely spell-checked clickbait for maximum return.

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Except notably for DED's original pieces, which for all their flaws give the Apple vs. the barbarians the best epic treatment out there.

And the good discussions. Compare to the viper's nest of narcisso-cynicism at MacRumors, for example.

 

  This is good news: the big-hitters (pro and anti-Apple) are back in the commenting fray - SockRolid, Flaneur, Suddenly Newton...

 

  This thread is going to be good!

 

  Don't hold back now, dudes.... seconds away... GatorGuy, whither art thou?

 

  (Sits back and reaches for popcorn...)

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Apple doesn't care about market share, so I don't either.  All I really care about is profit share, and Apple is doing better than aybody else there.

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Not fighting words at all. Some people would love a larger iPhone. I'd say it's safe to say the 4" version will continue to be the big seller for a while yet, even with a 4.7" iPhone 6. Which I would argue will almost certainly be released this year.

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