AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › Poll: How stupid is the avergage PC consumer?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Poll: How stupid is the avergage PC consumer? - Page 2

post #41 of 117
12/10/01 at 1:21am
"If they actually go in an Apple Store then yeah it's the best way. But all the people I know that are PC users laugh at me when I tell them to go in an Apple Store just to see what it's like."

They say that, but if they ever stroll by one, I bet you a nickel they'll take a peek. it's not every day you get to pick up a PowerBook G4...at CompUSA they are placed in rather restrictive cages.

Every time I go to the Apple Store in Palo Alto, there are at least 50 customers in there.
I can change my sig again!
Reply
I can change my sig again!
Reply
post #42 of 117
12/10/01 at 9:38am
The average computer user is pretty stupid (when it comes to computers). I know people with TiBooks who have a difficult time finding the things they download with IE.

One thing that makes a lot of Mac users stupid, in my opinion, is their annoyingly fanatic devotion. I'll give my opinion when asked for, but there are a plethora of fanboys out there who are more than willing to interrupt your conversation to proselytize the Mac's superiority.

Stupidity goes in multiple directions and, as is made evident by some of the attitudes displayed here, is most certainly cross-platform.
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
post #43 of 117
12/10/01 at 9:43am
No, you're wrong. The Mac is better.



Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Reply
Reply
post #44 of 117
12/10/01 at 9:55am
Duh, could you repeat the question?
It IS as bad as you think, and they ARE out to get you.
Reply
It IS as bad as you think, and they ARE out to get you.
Reply
post #45 of 117
12/10/01 at 1:07pm
I was in the computer lab in school (all Dells ) and I had mentioned something about Office for OS X and how much better it is for Macs than Windows since we were using Office and my friend says to me Macs suck. So I asked him how come he thinks that and he replied "because it's a Mac". The after a while of arguing about it he finally admitted that they don't suck and he just doesn't like them. I think that's another good example of a stupid consumer who hasn't used anything but Windows and thinks Windoews is so great.
Reply
Reply
post #46 of 117
12/10/01 at 1:16pm
Hey, sometimes I lose track of where IE downloads stuff to! Seriously, I have spend five to ten minutes numerous times rooting through sherlock trying to figure out where IE put it. Most of those times I realize it's behind an icon on my desktop.
*Registered March 1, 1999*
Member #14
Reply
*Registered March 1, 1999*
Member #14
Reply
post #47 of 117
12/10/01 at 2:16pm
Definitely nieve. I gave my uncle an old 6100 with a CD-Rom and a 56k Modem and he was exstatic at first, but after he talked to a mac-hating friend he threw it in the trash in hopes that he would have enough money to buy a PC which he thinks is better just becuase an uninformed friend is a moron. This friend of his stated that macs are outdated and useless, not even worth the space on his desk. So due to this friends ignorance he has no computer and I still have yet to convince him that the 6300 would have been sufficient to do what he needs to do. Surf the net. That is really all he would ever do with it. So guess what? His friend is a moron and he is a moron.
It really kinda pissed me of that he just threw it in the trash instead of giving it back so I could donate it to charity and get a nice tax writeoff. The mac even had a monitor with the special connector you need to hook it up. All ready to get online. Well, I hope he is happy once he gets his PC, has trouble with it and realizes his expert friend cannot fix it because he is a dingbat. I'll tell him exactly what to do with it if he calls me; The trash it goes.

Oh, yeah. His friend calls himself a computer 'expert'. A real computer expert would understand that Macs still hold their place in the market, and that my uncle does not need a P4 1.7GHz 100GB, etc.
Reply
Reply
post #48 of 117
12/10/01 at 2:52pm
No offense but a 6100 really ISN'T sufficient for surfing the net, I have one. Something a little better like a $150 PM 7500 would work great though
I have a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.
Reply
I have a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.
Reply
post #49 of 117
12/10/01 at 3:03pm
I have a 6116 and its quite sufficient, although we need to upgrade the ram from 24 to 72 megs.

My father even uses a color classic for quicken, appleworks finance work and its quite useful. So it may be a little sluggish, but the slow down is minimal and one can do quite a bit of work on it even at 16Mhz!

I feel quite sorry the 6100 is now gone, with a G3 Upgrade card and more ram it would be a very useful machine. Ach, these 'computer experts'...
Reply
Reply
post #50 of 117
12/10/01 at 3:06pm
I know that when my dad still had his 6115 it was horrible at surfing. Maybe it just needed a faster modem and then it would've been fine (I don't remember what speed it was, but it was pretty slow).
Reply
Reply
post #51 of 117
12/10/01 at 7:23pm
I'm finally looking for a home for my 6100. It has an upgrade card 225 G3, 72 mg of ram, and AV card and two monitors. The problem is, if you have a high speed connection, the bus speed it too slow. It actualy maxes out at about 50K when the other machines run as fast as 100. Also, while the processer is faster, the screen redraws etc are still slow. I love the old girl but, since I got my 366 ibook to go with my 400 dvse, she hasn't been used much at all. A student bought my powerbook 150 last year, maybe someone will give my 6100 a good home too. I need the space for something with a G4 in it.
Reply
Reply
post #52 of 117
12/11/01 at 8:03am
  • rok
  • the Casbah
it amazes me that my company will hire "professionals" in other departments as managers and such, yet they come to ask me how to make a bulleted list in microsoft word.

i mean, come on. word might not be the most intuitive pile of code, but even i can reason that the button with the dots and lines means "make a bulleted list" or figure out that the "help" menu and entering the term "bullet" or "bulleted list" will get me somewhere int he vicinity.

yet those cretins get hired to "manage" me. uh-huh. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
Reply
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
Reply
post #53 of 117
12/11/01 at 8:40am
I'm in the computer lab again and that kid said Macs suck again yet all these computers have frozen when we had to print. Now which OS sucks...
Reply
Reply
post #54 of 117
12/11/01 at 8:51am
Little bastard. Reach over and give him a smack.

Reply
Reply
post #55 of 117
12/11/01 at 9:48am
eman, read your post about Office again and see how you were just as ignorant as that kid. What reason do you have for Office v.X being better than OfficeXP?

Do you actually know what you're talking about or is it the same blind devotion to Apple that leads you to contend to those with the same blind devotion to Windows?

(For reference: OfficeXP is much better than Office v.X (&lt;- this from a dual-platformer))
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
post #56 of 117
12/11/01 at 10:43am
My mother is 78 years old. WIth a windows system she was always right clicking , getting into properties and messing everything up. It took me ages to troulbe shoot her machine. I made he buy a mac last year. Now I fix all her problems over the phone. Having her on a mac is saving me about 5 gallons of gas and 2 hours a month driving. My mother phones me because she can't remember where the reset button is when her machine freezes. I can tell you it freezes about once a week using OS9.1 because I here from her everytime. It's not that she's stupid, it's just she's used to things she can figure out andd she has trouble memorizing things. From my perspective, the iBook reset button is probably the stupidest thing on the iBook. everything else she seems to be able to work through.

Incidently she loves her iBook. She has it hooked up with an airport base station , so she takes it all over the house and even out onto the patio sometimes. She uses iTunes to play back music through her stereo. She plays oboe and has borrowed and compiled a collection of recorded oboe music .
Reply
Reply
post #57 of 117
12/11/01 at 10:51am
Groverat, you know as well as the rest of us that every Mac version of office since 98 has been consistently better than the PC version. Office 2001 was better than Office 2000 and 98 was better than 97.

Office v.X and Office XP have both been officially out for about a month now. If office XP is better than v.X then fine. Don't jump on people for being a few weeks behind you in your XP "1337ness".

And please tell us why Office XP is better than v.X. We'd really like to know, in the unlikely event that you can be unbiased, instead of replying with some subjective BS like "more responsive".

Oh, I know why... because it's got a more powerful scripting engine. Of course losses due to that power (via macro viruses) far outweigh the positives...
Reply
Reply
post #58 of 117
12/11/01 at 11:47am
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong>eman, read your post about Office again and see how you were just as ignorant as that kid. What reason do you have for Office v.X being better than OfficeXP?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

First of all, I wasn't talking about Office XP, I was talking about Office 2000. Second, I have experience with both, he only has experience with Office for Widnows.
Reply
Reply
post #59 of 117
12/11/01 at 12:14pm
Office v.X is pretty slow and unstable compared to XP, and that is even discounting things like the more powerful scripting engine. (Only idiots get virii)

I've used both. I've used both Mac and PC versions since Office 97.

Office 98 was better than Office 97. Office 2k1 maybe was a tiny bit better than Office 2k, but there's no way v.X beats XP.

Smart tages, task panes, Excel web features (not available on v.X) and blah blah blah

eman:

You started the contention. You brought up how it was "better" than the Windows version, which you haven't substantiated here.

How can you possibly look down on someone who did the exact same thing you did? You started that kind of talk in the first place.
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
post #60 of 117
12/11/01 at 12:26pm


Lots of people contend Office for Mac is better:

One mid-1990s version, Office 4.2, "is like a four-letter word to most Mac users," said Browne, general manager of Microsoft's Macintosh unit.

But after a years-long campaign to court Mac loyalists, Browne is convinced Microsoft has made amends. Office v. X for Mac (shorthand for "version 10"), being released today, is not just as good as Office XP, its Windows counterpart. Browne said it's better.

Here's the surprising news: Industry watchers and Mac users agree.

"(Office version 10 for Mac) is probably the one they should've built for Windows but didn't," said Rob Enderle, an analyst with Giga Information Systems who has used both versions.

The Mac suite, with its sharp graphic feel and smooth usability, belies its clunky name. It runs so well with Macs, Enderle said, because Browne's team of fewer than 200 employees has been given the type of autonomy uncommon at Microsoft's sprawling Redmond campus.

<a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/technology/article/0,1299,DRMN_49_882012,00.html" target="_blank">link</a>

Anyways, yeah, as far as the average consumer is concerned. Very naive. I went to the Plano, TX Apple store with my girlfriends mom and even that didn't completely wipe the blank, confused look on her face. I showed her Office v. X for Mac and having used Office 98 so long she didn't even realize it was the same program. I had to really demo it. She'll probably get Office XP before she gets a Mac though. Which is fine. I didn't even try to convince her. Because basically I don't care what she uses. She's not my problem now, but would be if she got a Mac. sooner or later

{edit - went ahead and added some words}

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: seb ]</p>
Reply
Reply
post #61 of 117
12/11/01 at 1:30pm
Hey, the Mac guy says the Mac version is better! WOW!



I bet Steve Jobs would tell you that MacOSX is better than WindowsXP.
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
post #62 of 117
12/11/01 at 1:51pm
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong> (Only idiots get virii)</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sure, but that constitutes 98%of the people currently using computers, in case you haven't been following the thread's main topic
eye
bee
BEE
Reply
eye
bee
BEE
Reply
post #63 of 117
12/11/01 at 1:58pm
And I bet groverat would say the XP version of Office is better than the Mac version!

No matter what the Microsoft MacBU GM, or that Rob Enderle, or the "industry watchers" say.

Bill Gates probably thinks XP moviemaker is better than iMovie.

Ted Wiatt probably thinks Gateways are better than Dells.

[Imagine that.]

While I feel both versions have their pluses and minuses. The thing is you're always gonna have someone saying one version is better, while someone else says the other version is better. And sometimes its hard for a 14 year old kid, (likely) impulsively posting from a class in junior high school, to 'substantiate' comments that seem to be easily substantiated by the so-called 'industry watchers'.

Excel benefits most from the OS X Aqua interface facelift. Two features in particular are visually stunning: first, active table cells pop out at you, making your work area much more accessible. Second, three-dimensional charts are now better anti-aliased, and can be transparent -- so you can see through one wedge of data to another. This feature actually makes charts far more inviting. It should be noted, that these transparent charts cannot be easily viewed on Windows machines -- I created one and turned it into a PDF, then tried to open in it Acrobat Reader on a PC. It looked horrible. This feature is truly Mac-only, but should print fine.

Lastly, Quicktime movies can now be dropped into practically any Office document, including Entourage e-mails -- and they remain active. So, you can play a movie in a Word document, surrounded by text -- or in an Excel document, surrounded by charts and other data. They are even active in e-mail messages.

<a href="http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/ptech/macoff112201.htm" target="_blank">link</a>

How stupid is the average consumer?

The only things that are infinite are the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not so sure about the former. - A. Einstein.
Reply
Reply
post #64 of 117
12/11/01 at 2:07pm
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
eman:

You started the contention. You brought up how it was "better" than the Windows version, which you haven't substantiated here.

How can you possibly look down on someone who did the exact same thing you did? You started that kind of talk in the first place.<hr></blockquote>

Am I missing something? What are you talking about? He said Macs suck, that's how it started out. Then we all were using Word 2000 and there were a few problems and then whenever someone went to print Word froze. He still said Macs suck. And then at some point I said that Office v.X is better than 2000 and that was based on experience with both. He has no experience with Macs. Now how am I doing the same thing he did?

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</p>
Reply
Reply
post #65 of 117
12/11/01 at 2:07pm
Thread Starter 
[quote]Originally posted by gumby5647:
<strong>

Ok, first....you've never worked fast food have you?

Second....its MIDNIGHT! i am tired and i have to drive 8 miles home in a car that i don't know if its even going to start up half the time.

Third...i offer everyone who comes down, that they can buy anything BUT a sandwhich. But to tell me that you just NOW got hungry at 5 till? Sorry i don't buy it.

Fourth, if i could close at 11 i would....trust me.

Fith...ive closed with the Operating Manager who co-owns all the subways in my town....and even he closed the gate between 5-7 till.

Listen, im all for service....and i would have served them if we closed earlier...like at 10 or 11 (the in town stores close at 11)

Ok, i can already hearing you....so if you don't like closing at midnight, then get a new job....

My reply is this....
Im the night time supervisor, and all i have to do is close 3 nights a week and i get a hefty paycheck. (simply because we are open so late) if i were to go somewhere else then i would have to work more days and more hours. So, until i move into the new house next spring im not leaving.

please people, cut the late night fast food place workers some slack.....don't wait till the last minute....</strong><hr></blockquote>

This is off the topic that I started but oh well: If you are open at 11:59 then you should take orders at 11:59. No one cares you have drive whopping 8 miles home. That isn't even far at all! Besides, it is not about you. It is about the store.....the time you are open for business should be the time you take orders for.....unless you post a sign saying you turn the grill and fryer off at 11:45 or so.

I worked in Pizzeria/Deli for awhile and it was common knowledge that no hot food was served within 15 minutes of closing time, unless the owner (who was there) approved it.
People knew this and usually didn't bitch. But, in your case, a fast food restaurant should be open when it says it is open. As I paying customer it is not my problem that you have to drive home....as insensitive as that sounds.

Sorry dude....I know food service sucks.. Good luck.....
To save time, assume I know everything.
Reply
To save time, assume I know everything.
Reply
post #66 of 117
12/11/01 at 2:23pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
<strong>

Am I missing something? What are you talking about? He said Macs suck, that's how it started out. Then we all were using Word 2000 and there were a few problems and then whenever someone went to print Word froze. He still said Macs suck. And then at some point I said that Office v.X is better than 2000 and that was based on experience with both. He has no experience with Macs. Now how am I doing the same thing he did?

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're not. Don't worry. You know how the 'rat can get.



Besides, why should we bend over backwards trying to prove our understanding and acceptance of Windows and PCs?

I'll state right now that, yes indeed, I AM an ultra-biased, close-minded Mac zealot who is only interested in Apple and their products for my computing experience.

I don't give two flying shits if Office for Windows IS better because I'm never going to be using the mother****er anyway, so...



There. Anyone else?

Reply
Reply
post #67 of 117
12/11/01 at 2:24pm
Can I get an "amen"?

Reply
Reply
post #68 of 117
12/11/01 at 4:33pm
Eman:

Scribam j00:

[quote]I was in the computer lab in school...and I had mentioned something about Office for OS X and how much better it is for Macs than Windows ... and my friend says to me Macs suck.<hr></blockquote>

I don't know if it is your custom to tell stories in reverse, but the way you told the story you instigated the contention.

I, not being omnipotent, am unaware of how things actually went down but I'm quite sure you started the comparison conversation since most of the world doesn't care about Macs.

I am somewhat unwilling to believe that the application was freezing and your friend said, "This is crashing a lot, but at least it's not a Mac!"

You saying Office v.X is better (which isn't true, even in that instance, since Office v.X hangs more on me than runaway slaves in the antebellum South) is much more likely.

"Office v.X is better than Office2k" is just as intelligent as "Macs suck"

Why is it that I make very very simple points yet they are dragged out into 3-4 page semantic jousts?

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: groverat ]</p>
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
post #69 of 117
12/11/01 at 5:34pm
"You saying Office v.X is better (which isn't true, even in that instance, since Office v.X hangs more on me than runaway slaves in the antebellum South) is much more likely."

Your purely anecdotal evidence is as good/bad as mine. Windows XP ate all my tulips! Really!

No, Really!

I mean it!

I'm not lying!

I really mean it!

It's true!

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
I can change my sig again!
Reply
I can change my sig again!
Reply
post #70 of 117
12/11/01 at 5:36pm
  • Leonis
  • AI Community Dictator
In the argument of Mac Office vs PC Office. The best answer is:

It's not the OS.

It's the application itself and the company that makes it - Microsoft.....they all suck

Everyone happy?
Mac Pro 2.66, 5GB RAM, 250+120 HD, 23" Cinema Display
MacBook 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM
Reply
Mac Pro 2.66, 5GB RAM, 250+120 HD, 23" Cinema Display
MacBook 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM
Reply
post #71 of 117
12/11/01 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by groverat:
[quote]"Office v.X is better than Office2k" is just as intelligent as "Macs suck"<hr></blockquote>
How is that so? Like I said before, I said that from my own personal experience. This kid has no experience with Macs and he's just saying Macs suck because he doesn't like Macs but never has actually used one.

[quote]I am somewhat unwilling to believe that the application was freezing and your friend said, "This is crashing a lot, but at least it's not a Mac!"<hr></blockquote>
You're right. He didn't say that. What I said after Word froze was that Word v.X sucks compared to Word 2000 (from my experiences) then he went on to say Macs suck again.

So I still don't understand how what I said was equally as bad as what he said.
Reply
Reply
post #72 of 117
12/11/01 at 6:47pm
LOL@ EmAn vs. groverat....

Gentleman......to your corners!


Yeah most of the PC dimwits just say "Macs suck Macs suck" yet they really don't have any clue what they're talking about. They've never even used a Mac and they say this after fully knowing they haven't had pleasant experiences with Windows. My friend says you can't run anything on a Mac and yet when I ask what programs he runs they are all available on Mac.

Good thing I just asked another friend what he thought of Macs and he said they are awesome and that he would switch to Mac. It's good to know there are some people that haven't been brainwashed by MS.

P.S. E, 913 posts! You're an animal! How do you do it my good man?
~Winner of the Official 2003 AppleInsider NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Pool~
Reply
~Winner of the Official 2003 AppleInsider NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Pool~
Reply
post #73 of 117
12/11/01 at 7:11pm
Eugene, I realize it's anecdotal and didn't present it as anything else. If I did my current argument would be quite rediculous wouldn't it?

Eman:
Here's the timeline:
*Class using Office, freezes occur*
eman: Man, Office v.X for the Mac is better than this.
friend: Yeah, but Macs suck.

Fairly accurate?

I ask you, what's the difference? Your Windows use is anecdotal and most certainly not the norm, as is his view of the Macintosh platform.

They are both trolls. What's the difference?
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
post #74 of 117
12/11/01 at 7:12pm
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>Yeah most of the PC dimwits just say "Macs suck Macs suck" yet they really don't have any clue what they're talking about. They've never even used a Mac and they say this after fully knowing they haven't had pleasant experiences with Windows. My friend says you can't run anything on a Mac and yet when I ask what programs he runs they are all available on Mac.

P.S. E, 913 posts! You're an animal! How do you do it my good man?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly like this kid. I showed him the OS X page at apple.com and he was surprised when he saw Starcraft X on there. He said "they finally came out with it for Macs". That's when I told him it's been out a long time. But of course I'm just being a Mac user who's totally against Windows, at least according to goverat.

I don't know how I got all the posts. I guess by saying stuff like what's in my status instead of the word Moderator.
Reply
Reply
post #75 of 117
12/11/01 at 7:32pm
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong>Eugene, I realize it's anecdotal and didn't present it as anything else. If I did my current argument would be quite rediculous wouldn't it?

Eman:
Here's the timeline:
*Class using Office, freezes occur*
eman: Man, Office v.X for the Mac is better than this.
friend: Yeah, but Macs suck.

Fairly accurate?

I ask you, what's the difference? Your Windows use is anecdotal and most certainly not the norm, as is his view of the Macintosh platform.

They are both trolls. What's the difference?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Most of it is correct. He said Macs suck yesterday first before any of this with Word happened. I told him that he's just saying that because he hasn't used Macs. Finally, he said that that was the reason. After that I said that Office v.X was better because of my experiences yesterday and in the past with versions of Word and the rest of Office before XP.
The today Word froze. And the kid said Macs suck again. That was pretty much a summary of most of the things that happened.

I've used Windows quite a bit at friends houses and family members' homes so I have plenty of experience with Windows 98-2000 and ME. From what my friend said to me he had no experience at all with Macs.

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</p>
Reply
Reply
post #76 of 117
12/11/01 at 8:08pm
Just to point out, Grover, it's not "omnipotent", it's "omniscient".

Secondly, people in this forum have pointed out advantages in Office on both platforms. Do you notice the difference between these advantages? The v.X improvements are things that people actually use (like transparent charts and pop-out cells) while the XP advantages are a little less "obvious" to the average consumer, "smart tags" being the exception. Personally, I think "smart tags" suck. Better would be a link to Google where I could look up any term I choose, and pick the most relevant one based on my own needs, not on what Microsoft "suggests", while cluttering up my text with useless underlined or hot links. And I'll be sure to use Windows next time I need to use those Excel web features (tell me honestly that you've used this feature).

It's the strength of the OS that allows easy coding of things like pop-up cells and transparency. The reason Office XP doesn't have this feature is because the OS itself cannot support it without considerable CPU overhead and a shitload of display algorithm re-coding within the program itself. Mark my words, pop-up cells, as useful as they are, will never make it to Office XP in their v.X form.

And don't just point out the weaker of my points and ignore the stronger ones like you did in the X vs. XP thread .
Reply
Reply
post #77 of 117
12/11/01 at 8:34pm
[quote]Originally posted by Anders:
<strong>

If people need a metaphor to understand ram and HD´s they shouldn´t get a computer at all
:eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I am going to disagree with this. If you expect everyone that owns a computer to understand how it all works before they get one then about 90% of all of you should have never gotten a computer in the first place. If they buy a computer and then never figure out how to use it, then that is a waste, but it keep people like me in a job. One thing about windows, it created an industry of tech support that pays my mortgage and paid for my Powermac G4.
NoahJ
"It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." - Mahatma Gandhi
Reply
NoahJ
"It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." - Mahatma Gandhi
Reply
post #78 of 117
12/11/01 at 9:34pm
tonton:

[quote]Just to point out, Grover, it's not "omnipotent", it's "omniscient".<hr></blockquote>

Not necessarily, but whatever gets you off.

[quote]Do you notice the difference between these advantages?<hr></blockquote>

Yes, they are mainly cosmetic, but yes I do notice them. What does it matter that I do? Does it have any bearing on my argument? (I'll give you a hint: The answer is "no")

[quote]...while the XP advantages are a little less "obvious" to the average consumer, "smart tags" being the exception.<hr></blockquote>

How are you, in any way shape or form, qualified to make any such statement?
Plenty of people at my lab seemed to figure them out rather quickly.

[quote](tell me honestly that you've used this feature).<hr></blockquote>

I don't use Excel at all. I use Word alone, I'm a journalism major. People at my lab use Excel all the time and it's a great use in their classroom PowerPoint presentations.

(The funniest thing about this argument is that Microsoft makes all of it.)

[quote]The reason Office XP doesn't have this feature is because the OS itself cannot support it without considerable CPU overhead and a shitload of display algorithm re-coding within the program itself.<hr></blockquote>

That's laughable. Like Quartz doesn't have considerable CPU overhead. What a joke.



[quote]And don't just point out the weaker of my points and ignore the stronger ones like you did in the X vs. XP thread<hr></blockquote>

Keep that thread in that thread. What you're doing now is nothing short of a thread-shit because you still don't know anything about anything other than your platform of blind choice.
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
proud resident of a failed state
Reply
post #79 of 117
12/11/01 at 11:10pm
ha ha ha ha ha, you think the new versions of Office are nice? he he.

ok, groverat, try the following. bear with me, you'll see where this is going. (now, to be perfectly fair, for all i know the Mac version is the same way, i haven't used it as i quit at my old work, and i'd have to sell a kidney to afford a mac)

type in the word Idiot.

then look it up in the thesaurus.

try moron. or any derogitory term. ha ha, like your choices?

MS sucks nuts, i can't believe they voluntarily did this to their thesaurus. as a journalism major, i'd love to hear what you think of this attitude for a word processing product.

lol, maybe they'll sell a supplimental hardcopy thesaurus with all the words in it for another $29.99

[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: alcimedes ]</p>
Reply
Reply
post #80 of 117
12/11/01 at 11:22pm
[quote]Originally posted by MacAgent:
<strong>

This doesn't have anything to do with this thread, but I drive 65 miles each way almost every day to work and school. </strong><hr></blockquote>


Butt naked in the snow?

cause if not Your just not a man!

a friend of mine...who is fairly knowledgable about computers(he's totally anti-mac and pc biased even though he almost always loses any discussions or arguments we have over the two platforms) was commenting on something I mentioned(the possiblity of 3.2 gbs firewire) and he instantly took the oppurtunity to make pcs sound better(as he always does when I bring up supierior mac tech.) and Though he didn't MEAN to say it what he said was
"at home we have a network thats like 2.2 gigaboots per millimeter"
orange you just glad?
Reply
orange you just glad?
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Discussion
AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › Poll: How stupid is the avergage PC consumer?