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Adoption of OS X 10.9 Mavericks significantly outpaces 10.8 Mountain Lion

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The rate at which Mac owners are upgrading to Apple's OS X 10.9 Mavericks has far outperformed the operating system's predecessor -- OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion -- with one report saying the latest OS is now running on over 40 percent of active Macs.



After five months of availability, OS X 10.9 Mavericks now generates just over 40 percent of all North American OS X-based Web traffic handled by ad network Chitika, almost doubling Mountain Lion's current 21 percent share.

By comparison, the last-generation OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion took nearly 14 months to reach a 34 percent share and was only at 26.8 percent after seven months on the market.

As for older versions of OS X, 10.7 Lion and 10.6 Snow Leopard both account for 18 percent of Mac traffic, while OS X 10.5 Leopard is at 3 percent. The almost nine-year-old OS X 10.4 Tiger is still running on one percent of machines, while "other OS X" takes the last percent.

In October 2013, one month after Mavericks' release, the operating system saw an adoption rate three times that of Mountain Lion. Possibly contributing to the uptick in adoption is Apple's decision to make Mavericks a free upgrade.

Chitika notes that while Mavericks' 40 percent is commendable, the statistic is nowhere near Apple's iOS 7, iterations of which account for more than 80 percent of traffic for the platform. The firm speculates a variety of factors play a role in the noticeable gap, including hardware incompatibility, differing device refresh cycles and user demographics.

Another interesting point is that the iOS update mechanism is much more aggressive than OS X. For example, iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are solicited to upgrade with pop-ups and push notifications, while older OS X version do not have the same assets.

Things could change with OS X 10.10, however, as Mavericks includes auto update features built into the Mac App Store, as well as Notification Center and app badge carryovers from Mountain Lion.
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Auto update sounds good to me. I no longer have to worry about whether I’m running the latest version of apps on my iPad. Having this on OS X makes my life easier.
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That's because it's free. My idea ;-)
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Possibly contributing to the uptick in adoption is Apple's decision to make Mavericks a free upgrade.

That is exactly the reason for the high adoption rate. A free upgrade? There are very few reasons to turn a free offer down.

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Possibly contributing to the uptick in adoption is Apple's decision to make Mavericks a free upgrade.

I appreciate AI not wanting to jump to any conclusions but this seems like more than a possibility.
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Another interesting point is that the iOS update mechanism is much more aggressive than OS X. For example, iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are solicited to upgrade with pop-ups and push notifications, while older OS X version do not have the same assets.

I know plenty of Mac users that weren't even aware that MAS exists of that Mavericks was a free download. These tend to be long-time Mac users who are not very tech savvy, but given enough time these people will learn or die off so it's a short term problem.

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Auto update sounds good to me. I no longer have to worry about whether I’m running the latest version of apps on my iPad. Having this on OS X makes my life easier.

Even Mac OS X betas now show up in the Mac App Store like a regular update. They have really made it streamlined and simple.

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That's because it's free. My idea ;-)

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My big 2007 8 Core Mac Pro won't even run Mountain Lion.  I love this machine and was so proud to have such a wonderful powerhouse.  Now it is dying.  Apple helped me with that.  Eventually Lion will be so obsolete that I won't be able to use the internet.  Sucks.

 

I am gonna buy another Mac Pro Box.  One that will run Mavericks.  I plan to not buy the new Mac Pro Model.  I think the solid state drives are not far enough along to meet the storage demands I like.  The external option is not what I like.  Too much desk space and AC Adapters.

 

I like multiple drives with multiple OS.  And two massive identical storage drives.  The old mac pro was good at the internal drives.  You could have 6 total if you really wanted it.  6 4tb drives.  Nice!

 

If my 2007 could run Mountain Lion in a stable manner I would keep it on my machine.  I got it hacked to run but it would crash with certain Apple programs like iPhoto.  I gave up and decided it wasn't worth it.  I would have to do the same thing and with even more work on Mavericks.

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My big 2007 8 Core Mac Pro won't even run Mountain Lion.  I love this machine and was so proud to have such a wonderful powerhouse.  Now it is dying.  Apple helped me with that.  Eventually Lion will be so obsolete that I won't be able to use the internet.  Sucks.

It sucks that the Mac Pro's made the cut off all before all other Macs but let's not go crazy with the hyperbole. I have an iMac from 2003 that runs Leopard that can still access the internet just fine. If that PPC Mac can still be viable then i think you Intel Mac has more than few years of utility left in it.

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If your 2007 MacPro can run 10.6, I'd update to that. Great update that was. 10.7 was a step back in my opinion and not worth even considering after I used it. Overall, you still have plenty of life left in that sucker given that it is a desktop.

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My big 2007 8 Core Mac Pro won't even run Mountain Lion.  I love this machine and was so proud to have such a wonderful powerhouse. 

I have one of those too. Still cranks out projects all day long. Best Mac ever in my opinion. I love how heavy duty it is. The new Mac Pros look so delicate.

 

I'm debating getting the new Mac Pro, but I'm still not sure which configuration to buy and I am also hoping for a matching 4K monitor from Apple in the near future.

 

The desk space argument you make isn't really much of an issue in my mind. A new Mac Pro and an external raid together represent less desk space than your current Mac Pro.

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If your 2007 MacPro can run 10.6, I'd update to that. Great update that was. 10.7 was a step back in my opinion and not worth even considering after I used it. Overall, you still have plenty of life left in that sucker given that it is a desktop.

Snow Leopard is a really solid version for sure. Nothing fancy, just a great UNIX computer with an OS X GUI. I have various Macs running SL, SL Server, L, ML, M and I like like them all.

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My big 2007 8 Core Mac Pro won't even run Mountain Lion.

You are lucky. Upgrading to Mavericks was the worst mistake I have made on my iMac. Too many things stopped working properly.

I'm going back to Snow Leopard as soon as I can.

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Chitika notes that while Mavericks' 40 percent is commendable, the statistic is nowhere near Apple's iOS 7, iterations of which account for more than 80 percent of traffic for the platform. The firm speculates a variety of factors play a role in the noticeable gap, including hardware incompatibility, differing device refresh cycles and user demographics.

Another interesting point is that the iOS update mechanism is much more aggressive than OS X. For example, iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are solicited to upgrade with pop-ups and push notifications, while older OS X version do not have the same assets.
 

 

There is another issue here. There are quite a few programs that will not run on Mavericks. Upgrading would mean paying for the upgrade of the apps that will not run. Luckily I only had one that I had to pay for and I got a discount from the vendor for not going through the app store and paying an upgrade price. 

 

So while the OS is free, not all of your required upgrades will be. I know several people who are waiting until they are ready to upgrade their older apps. 

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Apple could pay me for using their glitchy rubbish called 'mavericks'. I am absolutely sure I'll wait for the next OS X version. My MacBook Pro still runs ML.
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I'll adopt Mavericks as soon as Apple comes out with a new Mini.  Still running SL on my old Mini and waiting to buy a new one.  Come on Apple.

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Apple could pay me for using their glitchy rubbish called 'mavericks'.

 

What glitches have you encountered? What on earth makes you think the next OS would be any less “glitchy” if you believe they’re in Mavericks?

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What glitches have you encountered? What on earth makes you think the next OS would be any less “glitchy” if you believe they’re in Mavericks?

It is enough to read feedback left by "very satisfied" mavericks users. I am not so stupid to ruin my own Mac. I'd better use working stuff. If the next OS X will be the same shit - it gonna be beginning of the end of Apple for sure.

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It is enough to read feedback left by "very satisfied" mavericks users. I am not so stupid to ruin my own Mac. I'd better use working stuff. If the next OS X will be the same shit - it gonna be beginning of the end of Apple for sure.

 

So… no examples of the glitches you’ve encountered, despite that being pretty easy to present given that you yourself have encountered them.

 

Only evidence that users are very satisfied and more useless FUD about Apple. Okay.

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Only evidence that users are very satisfied and more useless FUD about Apple. Okay.

Ok, you can keep believing that people are happy with 'mavericks'. I'm not going to argue, and the least of all I want to turn my flawlessly working Mac into 'pain in arse' by "upgrading" the OS X. :)

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Ok, you can keep believing that people are happy with 'mavericks'. I'm not going to argue, and the least of all I want to turn my flawlessly working Mac into 'pain in arse' by "upgrading" the OS X. 1smile.gif

Did you explain what "glitches" you're experiencing? If so, I didn't see them. I've been using Mavericks on my previous and current MBP and think it's the best version of OS X they've ever made. Are you suggesting I'm delusional for believing I'm happy with it?

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Did you explain what "glitches" you're experiencing? If so, I didn't see them. I've been using Mavericks on my previous and current MBP and think it's the best version of OS X they've ever made. Are you suggesting I'm delusional for believing I'm happy with it?

Just read what real 'mavericks' "happy" users experience after "upgrading" from normally working OS X. Most of them regret it bitterly. That's it. It was enough for me even NOT to consider installing that shit on my Mac. 

 

There is no even one reason to move from ML. There is no any new really usable features in comparison with Mountain Lion. I never risk everything just for curiosity.

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Ok, you can keep believing that people are happy with 'mavericks'.

 

We are. Now either shut up or give an example of the “glitches” you experience.

 

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Just read what real 'mavericks' "happy" users experience after "upgrading" from normally working OS X. Most of them regret it bitterly.

 

Zero evidence, zero examples, zero information, zero proof. 

 

You don’t even have a clue what the word ‘happy’ means. Why would we trust you to know what a glitch is?! Come off it, man.

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Just read what real 'mavericks' "happy" users experience after "upgrading" from normally working OS X. Most of them regret it bitterly. That's it. It was enough for me even NOT to consider installing that shit on my Mac. 

There is no even one reason to move from ML. There is no any new really usable features in comparison with Mountain Lion. I never risk everything just for curiosity.

1) I have no idea what you're saying since is users are "happy" with Mavericks it shouldn't be a turn off to you.

2) Most online reviews by users seem to be overwhelmingly negative, especially when it comes to big corporations. I neither make nor read reviews on MAS.

3) You're heard plenty of positive comments about Mavericks and I've assumed you've read about the plethora of features but if those don't interest you that's perfectly fine, but I don't see why you're here seemingly spreading FUD.

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Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.
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Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.

1) Which moderator do you refer? I see none in this thread.

2) What evidence do you have to support your claim that most people uninstalled Mavericks, especially in light of this article stating that it's outpacing ML?

3) The Mail Gmail IMAP issue was a major issue that persisted far too long but I thought 10.9.2 resolved that for nearly everyone that didn't use one of the workarounds… but how would they know if most uninstalled Mavericks?

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Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches.

 

Mail works perfectly fine. Because using a hacked together, nonstandard version of IMAP deserves compatibility issues. Screw Google. Apple has no obligation to “fix” anything.

 

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1) Which moderator do you refer? I see none in this thread.

 

I have a lasting effect, it seems. It would probably be easier to fix things than to try to correct everyone who’s wrong.

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The conversation so far:
Glitches!
What glitches?
I'm not gonna argue
What glitches???
Find out for yourself
So FUD.

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Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.

You have a very good memory for someone's past posts, whose name you can't seem to recall.

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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post
You have a very good memory for someone's past posts, whose name you can't seem to recall.

 

He does have a pretty good memory; when did I ever say iBooks didn’t work? Not saying I didn’t, just that I don’t remember ever saying it or there being a situation in which it could have been said. Again, par for the course for me, but it doesn’t seem like something that would have happened.

 

Oh, I maintain that iBooks lacks metadata editing, which is completely inexcusable, but certainly not “did not work”. I love iBooks as an application.

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Upgrading iOS doesn't cost anything while upgrading the Mac OS can cost between $500-$2500 as you have to pay to replace non compatible software and hardware. When you pay over $500 for a productivity app you want to maximize it's useful life so you don't upgrade with every OS iteration.
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I still need to get around to installing Mavericks on one Mac Mini and my MBP. I'm using it on my iMac and second Mini and I haven't had any issues with it.

 

I'm gonna keep upgrading as long as my computers are eligible for the upgrades!

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Mail works perfectly fine. Because using a hacked together, nonstandard version of IMAP deserves compatibility issues. Screw Google. Apple has no obligation to “fix” anything.

 

Well, basically full ACK. However, I suppose for many non-techie Users they just see "My gmail doesn't work on my Mac" and they don't really care it is because of a non standard implementation of IMAP. They care about the end result and that "it just works".

 

OT: I am wondering if the high level of things that "just work" made me more sensitive things when they don't. Like recently, when iCloud keychain synched my Exchange email account just fine - except for one machine. Account was there, but I kept receiving wrong password message. After trying different routes with no avail, I finally manually added the account. In the end, no big deal, but I'm already so used to tech taking care of things that when suddenly it doesn't work, it really strikes out.

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Apple could pay me for using their glitchy rubbish called 'mavericks'. I am absolutely sure I'll wait for the next OS X version. My MacBook Pro still runs ML.

 

I have similar feelings. In particular, dealbreakers for me are missing local sync in iTunes and worse multi-monitor support. The rest of the problems are irritations of various degrees. However, I'm even more dissatisfied with their MBP hardware line. I'm a developer and currently I have an upgradable, last of the line, 15" hi-res (non-retina) matte-display MBP. There's no way I'm going to get a new MBP as long as these features are not available, and the thought of having my MBP lost or broken scares me. With those features missing in the current line, I simply can not justify the price to myself.

 

 

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1) I have no idea what you're saying since is users are "happy" with Mavericks it shouldn't be a turn off to you.

2) Most online reviews by users seem to be overwhelmingly negative, especially when it comes to big corporations. I neither make nor read reviews on MAS.

3) You're heard plenty of positive comments about Mavericks and I've assumed you've read about the plethora of features but if those don't interest you that's perfectly fine, but I don't see why you're here seemingly spreading FUD.

Here are some concrete examples.

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Just read what real 'mavericks' "happy" users experience after "upgrading" from normally working OS X. Most of them regret it bitterly. That's it. It was enough for me even NOT to consider installing that shit on my Mac. 

There is no even one reason to move from ML. There is no any new really usable features in comparison with Mountain Lion. I never risk everything just for curiosity.

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Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.

Mail is fine. Gmail is as fucked up as your post.
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Upgrading iOS doesn't cost anything while upgrading the Mac OS can cost between $500-$2500 as you have to pay to replace non compatible software and hardware. When you pay over $500 for a productivity app you want to maximize it's useful life so you don't upgrade with every OS iteration.

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Your cave is getting cold.

You notice how those posts never come with examples that can be verified.

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Here are some concrete examples.

The 10.9.2 update fixed some of these problems, although some users still complain about QuickLook running slowly.

 

Most major problems with Mavericks seem to steam from out-dated third party programs users had installed on Mountain Lion.  A lot users have found EtreCheck a great help in resolving these problems.

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