Originally Posted by Flaneur
What's with the Constantinople remark?
Mostly I was referring to the picture of the woman in the scarf, weighing the apples with an ancient oh-so-primitive scale. Har de har har.
Maybe ethnocentric isn't' the right word. Jingoistic? Boorish? You choose one.
1) Istanbul used to be name Constantinople, just as Mumbai was Bombay, New York was New Amsterdam, St. Petersburg was Leningrad was St. Petersburg, and countless other cities whose names have changed throughout recorded history, but I only know of one that was immortalized in a catchy song from the 1950's that was remade in 1990 by the band They Might Be Giants.
2) First of all, counterweight scales are not only still in use to a massive degree but are more accurate than other scale types. Secondly, her apples are in a plastic bag which means she's clearly not primitive. Finally, Constantinople was changed to Istanbul in 1930 after a tremendous run of over 1600 years.. That was nearly a half-century before Apple Computer was founded and almost 3/4 of a century before the first Apple Store was opened.
3) Why don't you choose one. I am quite curious how any comment or photograph here in any way showed extreme patriotism against Turkey, aggressive, warlike policies toward Turkey, bad-manners toward Turks, or an intense or irrational dislike or fear toward people of Turkey. In fact, I'd say the only irrationity are your comments about our comments that in no way disparaged, belittled, or denigrated the people of Turkey, Istanbul, not or
Extreme patriotism, esp. in the form of aggressive or warlike foreign policy.
Rough and bad-mannered; coarse.
xenophobia |ˌzēnəˈfōbēə, ˌzenə-|
Intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.
edit: I take that back¡ Her use of the scale is primitive because our entire system of using an international prototype kilogram
stored in a Paris vault is primitive. Now should I get upset with you by assuming you meant that every way in which we measure mass are primitive?¡ This is primitive because it's losing mass and it's because it's a physical object. We need a more precise and unwavering unit by which to determine mass and the answer may lie with atomic weights but we don't yet have equipment to measure a very specific number of atoms.Edited by SolipsismX - 3/28/14 at 10:25pm