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Apple is expected to start rolling out new products starting in the second quarter, says one informed analyst, including the much rumored iWatch, redesigned "iPhone 6," a 12-inch MacBook Air and a low-cost iMac.



According to a research note obtained by AppleInsider, KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes the third quarter is going to be a big one for Apple as the company is primed to release revamped iPad Airs and iPad minis, the iWatch in two sizes, an all-new 4.7-inch iPhone, an Apple TV upgrade, an all-new 12-inch MacBook and an update to the MacBook Pro lineup.

With the glut of new products, not to mention new product categories, Kuo expects the third quarter to be a hugely important time for Apple and how the public perceives its future.

"We believe the rumored iWatch will be Apple's most important product this year, carrying much more weight than iPhone 6," Kuo writes, adding, "as market feedback for the product should reveal whether Apple still has the ability to continue making game-changing products with Tim Cook at the helm."

If iWatch is a hit, Kuo believes that in five to ten years Apple's competition in the sector will no longer be tech companies, but fashion brand vendors.

The analyst says Apple's success hinges on five key factors: replacement demand from larger iPhones; whether the new iPads' minor upgrades will carry momentum in 2014; whether the all-new 12-inch MacBook Air will redefine the notebook user experience; how much low-price iMac can boost overall shipments; and App Store availability on Apple TV.
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I understand if there are logistics reasons for releasing everything around the same time at the end of the year but this seems more like a choice than bad luck with finished products you don't want to sit on for another 3-9 months. I really wish Apple would go back to spacing out their release cycles as well as having more events.

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That made me laugh then I realized it wasn't suppose to be a joke.

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That made me laugh then I realized it wasn't suppose to be a joke.

I will never understand the Kuo-loving at AI. You'd think they'd practically promoted him to ghost writer.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

 

 

The last time we saw a timeline like this, EVERY SINGLE POINT ON IT WAS WRONG. WHY WOULD WE CARE ABOUT ANOTHER ONE?

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Perhaps they need to release ios8 before they can support the watch, TV and new phone features?
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GLUT: Overload, overfill, related to glutton, an oversupply

 

Apple to roll out an OVERLOAD OVERFILL OVERSUPPLY WAY TOO MUCH THAN WHAT PEOPLE NEED in Q3

 

That's what you wrote, dude.  Heavy duty editorializing rather than just reporting

 

Why the negative word?  How about POSITIVE words if you must editorialize?  Suggestions include:

 

Apple to roll out CORNUCOPIA of new products

 

Apple to roll out WONDERLAND of new products

 

Apple to roll out PLENTIFUL BLESSED ABUNDANCE

 

TREASURE TROVE of new products

 

Apple to roll out NEW PRODUCTS APLENTY!

 

AHOY APPLE GOODNESS!  FANTASYLAND of innovation and candy-colored RAINBOWS of invention coming in Q3

 

Okay, does that sound inappropriately biased?  Well so does GLUT

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Apple will release products when it deems they're ready, and taking thousands of factors into consideration. They don't have some of this stuff in fucking boxes in a secret warehouse just killing time until the fall. May, just MAYBE all these products still need dev time. 

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I don't want a cheap iMac but one that gives me enough oompf for 3D animation. Since I need Nvidia I can't buy a MacPro%u2026 so please Apple, iMac 27" with gtx 880m 8GB VRAM? Please?
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To what extent do these claims match up with the supply chain rumours and leaks? We know there's a new iPad Air and Pro on the way (from the new model numbers in iOS 7.1), and there are a lot of signs pointing towards a larger iPhone, so those both look pretty credible, but I haven't heard anything about the alleged new 12" macbook. Has anyone else seen any signs of this?

 

edit: Two sizes of iWatch face also makes sense given the wide variation in wrist size within the population. 

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Mr. Kuo has been killing it lately with his predictions. He's really the only one I perk up when information comes out. This could all very we'll be true, and it's some exciting stuff. 1smile.gif
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I don't want a cheap iMac but one that gives me enough oompf for 3D animation. Since I need Nvidia I can't buy a MacPro%u2026 so please Apple, iMac 27" with gtx 880m 8GB VRAM? Please?

 

Any cheap iMac is going to have Iris Pro graphics. You would be looking at a regularly priced iMac as you suggest. Whether or not it will have 8GB is doubtful IMO. Maybe 4 GB as a BTO, but I doubt 8GB. 

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...I haven't heard anything about the alleged new 12" macbook. Has anyone else seen any signs of this?

You mean in terms of rumours or circumstantial evidence, like a new part number showing up in the OS. I wouldn't expect any circumstantial evidence for a new size Mac unless it's a photo of a leak, but there have been rumours about it.

I think it makes sense. The 11" 16:9 is just too small and the 13" is too close to the new 13" Retina MacBook Pro in terms of weight and size now that the HDD and ODD are gone. I think chucking both of those and instead using a 12" 16:10 model would fit that market segment nicely.
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Two sizes of iWatch face also makes sense given the wide variation in wrist size within the population.

Men and Woman's watches also typically come in two size varieties. I'd say mostly because of traditional wrist sizes but I'm sure style plays a roll. The question is: How does Apple offer two different sizes that offer the same features and battery life? I think one of the other has to be different for this to work, which makes me wonder if that could cause a trend of the "men's" version becoming popular with women.

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I will never understand the Kuo-loving at AI. You'd think they'd practically promoted him to ghost writer.

 

There's a lot of analyst "loving" that goes on here. It's pretty ugly.


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This is going to be an exciting fall!

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We'll believe it when we see it. The only definitively on this list is the larger iPhone, totally revamped ATV, and regular iPad upgrades, IMHO.
Edited by FreeRange - 4/9/14 at 4:57pm
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To what extent do these claims match up with the supply chain rumours and leaks? We know there's a new iPad Air and Pro on the way (from the new model numbers in iOS 7.1) 

Those new model numbers are for minor variants of the current iPad Air (A1476) and iPad Mini with Retina Display (A1491), adding support for TD-LTE for China Mobile, which was missing from the original A1475/A1490 models.

 

Judging from various reports around the net, the A1476/A1491 models were introduced in the last week of March, two or three weeks after iOS 7.1.

 

They are listed on Apple's iPad LTE page, and you can probably use archive.org to compare it with an earlier version from last October.

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The pre-WWDC pump-and-dump stories seem to have begun early.

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Any cheap iMac is going to have Iris Pro graphics. You would be looking at a regularly priced iMac as you suggest. Whether or not it will have 8GB is doubtful IMO. Maybe 4 GB as a BTO, but I doubt 8GB. 

Since you can configure the top of the line iMac with 4GB right now and the nvidia gtx 800series can handle 8gb I hope Apple offers the option to push that to 8GB. Especially when you're rendering on GPU you need every last byte of VRAM you can get. Right now I have to render on CPU because the VRAM of my old machine is too small (1GB) for just about anything but OS X and Games…

 

My dream would be an i7 5th gen, gtx 880m (without the m, but thats not gonna happen) with 8GB VRAM and 32GB normal RAM for the CPU… lets see how close Apple gets to this, its possible…

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The pre-WWDC pump-and-dump stories seem to have begun early.

All hoping for quiet updates before WWDC, just like Apple likes it: update the Pro and expensive things silently before the WWDC and then have a big show on the innovations in mobile and software. Apple's focus on the WWDC lately has had little - but not none - room for incremental upgrades and was more on presenting cutting edge and innovation as well as big news like iPhone and iPad.

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Hopefully that 12" MBA will ship with 8 gig of memory standard. Apple's upgrade pricing for the current models is ridiculous.
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Android: pitting every phone company in the world against one, getting a higher number, and considering it a major achievement.
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in other headlines "Appleinsider to roll out glut of new stories today." :-)

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Apple would never engage in a race to the bottom. Not now, not ever. 

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Where's the innovation?

 
Where's the new Apple TV?
 
 
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Where's the innovation?

Certainly not in your trolling tactics. Try harder.

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I understand if there are logistics reasons for releasing everything around the same time at the end of the year but this seems more like a choice than bad luck with finished products you don't want to sit on for another 3-9 months. I really wish Apple would go back to spacing out their release cycles as well as having more events.
That made me laugh then I realized it wasn't suppose to be a joke.
It seems to be its supposed to help stock, however it may not be best for sales, as for some don't but 10 things at end of year, but 1 every 2 months.

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The last time we saw a timeline like this, EVERY SINGLE POINT ON IT WAS WRONG. WHY WOULD WE CARE ABOUT ANOTHER ONE?
I guess it's the yearly time line no matter how off, It seems like it is very ramdimized this time.

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I don't want a cheap iMac but one that gives me enough oompf for 3D animation. Since I need Nvidia I can't buy a MacPro%u2026 so please Apple, iMac 27" with gtx 880m 8GB VRAM? Please?
Doubt of a cheap IMac, at most like MacBook Pro release new retina at $1500 minimum and drop old ones price to $1000


I could very easily see the Apple TV update in WWDC with it running a full(a lot closer) IOS 8, have an App Store for $150.
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The last time we saw a timeline like this, EVERY SINGLE POINT ON IT WAS WRONG. WHY WOULD WE CARE ABOUT ANOTHER ONE?

Because AI has a romance with Kuo.

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Where's the innovation?

I believe the troll meme is that "Apple never really invented anything." So why would they start innovating now?

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Since you can configure the top of the line iMac with 4GB right now and the nvidia gtx 800series can handle 8gb I hope Apple offers the option to push that to 8GB. Especially when you're rendering on GPU you need every last byte of VRAM you can get. Right now I have to render on CPU because the VRAM of my old machine is too small (1GB) for just about anything but OS X and Games…

 

My dream would be an i7 5th gen, gtx 880m (without the m, but thats not gonna happen) with 8GB VRAM and 32GB normal RAM for the CPU… lets see how close Apple gets to this, its possible…

 

Anything is possible, but knowing Apple they'll probably skimp out and offer 6GB of VRAM or something like that as a BTO. 

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The entry-level iMac already lacks discrete graphics and comes with a mechanical hard drive. How much more low-end can it get? 
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I really wish Apple would go back to spacing out their release cycles as well as having more events.

Like a lot of products, the release times are important to the seasonal events they can ride upon. The low-cost iMac is times to be a good grad gift. While Apple is promoting the new iMac, they can gain a lot of MBA & MBP sales ridding on the coat tails of the new product. All the other new products (with the exception of the 5.5" iPhone will be a great mix to put the end-of-the-year holiday shoppers into a early feeding frenzy as well as the back-to school shopping bunch. The super-duper sized iPhone seems to be scheduled when it can be produced and less on market timing strategy.

It's unfortunate that Apple products are tightly tied to only three significant event periods, but that's the nature of the products Apple Produces. Apple can keep themselves in the news with OS updates and new software product releases at other times of the year, but hardware products need to be timed for buying cycles as I mentioned above.
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It's unfortunate that Apple products are tightly tied to only three significant event periods, but that's the nature of the products Apple Produces.

That wasn't the case just a couple years ago.

I recall the iPad coming out around March or April and the iPhone coming out in June or July.
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Looks like my next Mac will have to be a Mac Pro (after I sell a kidney or something), since it'll probably be the last one you can upgrade the RAM yourself AND have good graphics performance. Other than graphics, that's the reason I went with a 2012 i7 Mac mini after I sold my 2010 iMac. That didn't quite do it for me, so I sold that and picked up a great, gently used 2010 MacBook Pro 15" i5 that already has 8GB, then I put a Seagate Hybrid 1TB drive in it. This old thing runs rings around my former 2012 i7 Mac mini with 16GB of RAM. I'm sure the performance difference is the Seagate drive, but I love this thing.

 

Any "more affordable" Mac is going to be very limited. I want nothing to do with one. 

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The pre-WWDC pump-and-dump stories seem to have begun early.

Some analyst's kid needs braces.

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The last time we saw a timeline like this, EVERY SINGLE POINT ON IT WAS WRONG. WHY WOULD WE CARE ABOUT ANOTHER ONE?

Is that true? I don't know about Timelines, but the last time Ming Kuo weighed in on his Q3 Apple predictions, he got almost everything right.

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That wasn't the case just a couple years ago.

I recall the iPad coming out around March or April and the iPhone coming out in June or July.

I don't know what they're thinking.

 

Perhaps they think they do better if they have BRAND NEW products going into the 4th quarter for holiday shopping.

 

But I know for myself, I have more wealth to spare on new Apple gadgets for the year when one comes out in March, another in June, another in October.

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But I know for myself, I have more wealth to spare on new Apple gadgets for the year when one comes out in March, another in June, another in October.

Me too, and if one buys one of their new devices in October but needs to wait a few months before buying one of the others that came out around that time they then might wait for the cycle to finish before updating, but if they were spaced out seasonally I'd think they could increase their sales.

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I understand if there are logistics reasons for releasing everything around the same time at the end of the year but this seems more like a choice than bad luck with finished products you don't want to sit on for another 3-9 months. I really wish Apple would go back to spacing out their release cycles as well as having more events.
 

They all lock themselves in the secret design room the first month of the year...and 9 months later...

 

...they give birth to new devices!

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