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With Apple expected to be fielding a smartwatch later this year, one analyst reveals new details about the long-awaited device, including biometrics, flexible AMOLED display with sapphire cover lens and NFC, among other features.

Android Wear conceptMotorola's Moto 360 Android Wear-powered smart watch | Source: Google


In the midst of rumors and speculation, a research note from KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo obtained by AppleInsider offers the most comprehensive look at Apple's supposed "iWatch" yet. Kuo has a proven track record of predicting Apple's next hardware moves.

According to the analyst, iWatch will be able to operate independently of an iPhone or iPad, but is also expected to feature functions that are iOS-exclusive like health monitoring apps. Hardware backing up iOS device compatibility are near-field communication with a "secure element," biometric recognition and adoption of a system-in-package (SiP) design for slimness.

Other components include a 1.3- to 1.5-inch flexible AMOLED display with sapphire cover, suggesting the device's screen will be curved to fit a user's wrist. In addition, Apple is thought to be incorporating liquid metal for mechanical parts.

One of the major differences between Apple's smartwatch and those from rivals will be looks. Unlike current designs from the likes of Samsung and LG, Kuo predicts the iWatch casing and band will come in a variety of materials. As such, the most expensive model in the lineup will carry a price tag of several thousand dollars, as much as a luxury brand mechanical watch.

With a fashionable style and models reaching into high price echelons, Kuo believes Apple may be competing against other fashion vendors instead of tech companies.

A big challenge for any smartwatch design is battery life. Kuo is forecasting iWatch to use 200 to 250mAh cell that should give the device increased operation time. Adding to power savings is Apple's vertically integrated operating system, which will allow fine-tuning of specific components. Battery life is expected to hit at least one day.

Kuo sees shipments of iWatch starting at the end of the third quarter, with an estimated 5.5 million units in 2014 alone. That number is forecast to jump to 30 to 50 million units through 2015, in line with prior reports guessing at shipment volume.
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Lol a gold and Diamond studded iWatch.
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you would have to try really hard to make all this stuff up.

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If this is true, then Angela Ahrendts' hire makes even more sense.
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As such, the most expensive model in the lineup will carry a price tag of several thousand dollars, as much as a luxury brand mechanical watch.

FAIL

 

THIS is why people spend thousands of dollars on watches:

 

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"Thousands of dollars"???? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Low volume at best. Next, NFC, really? A pretty much failed tech, at least in the US? IMHO, not.
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you would have to try really hard to make all this stuff up.

I don't think any of these analysts let that pesky thing call facts get in the way:).  When you make stuff up from your dreams who can dispute you lol:D.

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AMOLED screen over the top of a mechanical clock face would be cool.

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Ha you can't make this stuff up. lol.gif

But it is the complete opposite to guys like Ben Bajarin, Benedict Evans, Ben Thompson and Rene Ritchie who are predicting the "iWatch" to be a cheap iPhone accessory.
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Pfffft. iDon't want one
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The NFC part of the rumor makes no sense whatsoever! Apple would presumably want their iWatch to work with as many iPhones as possible. As far as I know not a single one currently on the market supports NFC. If this Kuo character is so off on his NFC prediction, it calls the rest of his predictions into question too.
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The NFC part of the rumor makes no sense whatsoever! Apple would presumably want their iWatch to work with as many iPhones as possible. As far as I know not a single one currently on the market supports NFC. If this Kuo character is so off on his NFC prediction, it calls the rest of his predictions into question too.

What you can't see people hitting thousand dollar follow watches together?  Maybe this is why they want sapphire screens. I would personally buy an iRing before an iWatch.

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It's coming from Kuo which makes me want to believe but the absurd-ness of some of the predictions makes me question if something was "lost in translation."
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With great and limited design they could get away with thousand dollar watches.
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Kuo just ruined his reputation on this..
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I think Ming-Chi Kuo is off his rocker.

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Make it stop!
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Kuo just ruined his reputation on this..

 

Could be that Apple found his sources and severed them for good. Which would, of course, be good.

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If this device includes the functionality of very expensive medical testing machinery, and non invasive blood glucose testing, it could easily have a retail price of $1000-$2000, and will probably cost no more than $200-$500 after being heavily subsidized by insurance companies. Diabetes testing supplies can cost a person $500-1000 annually. Furthermore, rumor has it the iWatch can detect a heart attack before it happens. If this is true, $2000 is very cheap!

http://www.diabetesmonitor.com/glucose-meters/test-strips/in-pursuit-of-the-best-deals-for-test-strips.htm

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iwatch-to-predict-heart-attacks-2014-2
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If this device includes the functionality of very expensive medical testing machinery, and non invasive blood glucose testing, it could easily have a retail price of $1000-$2000, and will probably cost no more than $200-$500 after being heavily subsidized by insurance companies. Diabetes testing supplies can cost a person $500-1000 annually. http://www.diabetesmonitor.com/glucose-meters/test-strips/in-pursuit-of-the-best-deals-for-test-strips.htm

federal tax credit against your Affordable Care Act contribution.  How about that for big can of worms?

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A diamond-studded watch that measures your glucose?

 

What about a platinum thermometer?

 

A ruby-encrusted heartrate monitor?

 

A solid Unobtanium watch that changes your TV channels?

 

And all covered by glowing sapphire!

 

The Apple iWatch.  If you have to ask how much it costs, you probably can't afford it.©

 

Or just call it, the iBling!

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federal tax credit against your Affordable Care Act contribution.  How about that for big can of worms?

This kind of early detection would save insurance companies billions, and cause premiums to go down for everyone.
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People want high end wearables like they want a hole in their head. They want to carry fewer items not more. There's very little you can do with a watch that doesn't seem like overkill when you can just glance down to your phone. Unless you're talking about dedicated devices like the Fitbit Flex and Nike Fuel Band — which are small and do their best to get out of your way.

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This certainly would not be a product that sold well if were talking thousands of dollars to sell. Since there is no iWatch yet and Apple hasn't released anything on it I will take this with a grain of bad salt. Whomever is reporting this stuff should just stop making crap up because it isn't going to help anyone anyways.

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In the year of ObamaCare roll out, it seems appropriate for it also be the year of AppleCare roll out.. wait.. that didn't come out right

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Lol why do you keep showing android wear AI
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FAIL

THIS is why people spend thousands of dollars on watches:



Why? Because it looks like an overhead shot from the intro to Game of Thrones? What do all those gears do? If they tell the next time boobies will be on screen on GoT then thousands of dollars is well worth the price.

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Lol why do you keep showing android wear AI

It is the nicest mockup I've seen and close to what I hope Apple is going for.

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Lol why do you keep showing android wear AI

It is the nicest mockup I've seen and close to what I hope Apple is going for.

definitely is a "Mock Up"

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you would have to try really hard to make all this stuff up.

you would have to be really HIGH to make all this stuff up.  :D

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definitely is a "Mock Up"

I assume you mean "tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner" when you write mock. What is so laughable about it?

I don't think Motorola has the chops to make when they "demoed" this year but I think the round display is the risk way to go. I would like to see a thinner bezel and it not being so damn thick (which you can't tell from that pic), and I think the bright-white display is a bad move. I'd go with AMOLED and make the display black except for a few necessary pixels for a (default) analog clock face using very little power and have a great looking deep-black face. iOS 7's ultra-thin Helvetica Neue would make sense here.

I'd also expect an accelerometer that would be intelligent enough to turn on the display when you turn or raise your wrist in a manner that would indicate you could be looking at the watch face. This would probably need to have a simple off button in case you're in a dark room like a movie theater.

I wouldn't expect this to be a "smart" watch that is trying to be a smartphone. I think it would be best suited as an accessory device for iPhone users.

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2 sizes? Already kicking off with fragmentation, huh. I don't buy it.
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"Thousands of dollars"???? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Low volume at best. Next, NFC, really? A pretty much failed tech, at least in the US? IMHO, not.
They said the most expensive model will be, so there'll be some that are cheap, I'm sure
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As long as the screws don't line up together, I'm sold on the iWatch.
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Why? Because it looks like an overhead shot from the intro to Game of Thrones? What do all those gears do? If they tell the next time boobies will be on screen on GoT then thousands of dollars is well worth the price.

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I have this dream about the iWatch. The band could be where certain sensor are incorporated. So a diabetic would buy the iWatch body/face with the diabetic sensor band. That band might cost a pretty penny and be subsidized by insurance. A fitness junkie or athlete buys the sports band. Someone who merely wants an iWatch for its notifications capabilities and ability to run their iPhone Apps remotely would get the band with no special sensors. And some folks will get multiple bands, sports band for the daytime, dress band for evening, different colors, etc. and perhaps all the bands incorporate the battery, so when you switch bands you get a full charge (presumably your extra bands are stored atop your included inductive charger).

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I have this dream about the iWatch. The band could be where certain sensor are incorporated. So a diabetic would buy the iWatch body/face with the diabetic sensor band. That band might cost a pretty penny and be subsidized by insurance. A fitness junkie or athlete buys the sports band. Someone who merely wants an iWatch for its notifications capabilities and ability to run their iPhone Apps remotely would get the band with no special sensors. And some folks will get multiple bands, sports band for the daytime, dress band for evening, different colors, etc. and perhaps all the bands incorporate the battery, so when you switch bands you get a full charge (presumably your extra bands are stored atop your included inductive charger).

Hey, I can dream.

I wonder if a physical dial around the face, like in a diver's watch, would be a useful way to switch between "apps" on such a wearable electronic. Having it be only a touch screen (which I'm not sure would work on a thick, convex piece of sapphire) or having to press annoying side button seems questionable to me, but I'm truly not expecting it to be a huge outputter of on-screen data.

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you would have to try really hard to make all this stuff up.

 

That’s exactly what they’re doing.

 

They get paid to make things up.

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Yawn

Will someone tell me why I need a digital iWatch when I have an iPhone in my pocket?

 
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Yawn
Will someone tell me why I need a digital iWatch when I have an iPhone in my pocket?

What biometrics does your phone measure in your pocket?

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