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Whether it's legitimate or not, a newly revealed front panel claimed to be for Apple's next-generation iPhone appears to show a part for a 5.1-inch display with a screen ratio of 16 to 9.


Measurement provided to AppleInsider by Steve of East Coast Pixels.


A photo revealed earlier Tuesday purports to show an "iPhone 6" front panel next to the 4-inch display of an iPhone 5s. AppleInsider reader Steven from East Coast Pixels -- makers of the iOS photo editing app PhotoToaster -- took a closer look at the alleged Apple part in an effort to determine its dimensions.

Using the iPhone 5s on the left as a comparison, the part appears to show an iPhone display with a 5.07-inch diagonal measurement, or nearly 5.1 inches. It also has a 16-to-9 aspect ratio, which would be identical to the ratio found on the current iPhone 4-inch display.

Apple is likely to keep a consistent aspect ratio in order to make the transition to a larger screen size as easy as possible for developers. When combined with a properly chosen display resolution, apps would be able to scale with little or no modification.

However, an iPhone screen size just shy of 5.1 inches does not align with recent rumored display sizes for Apple's next-generation handset. Well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities said in a research note last week that he believes Apple's 2014 iPhone models will come in two screen sizes of 4.7 inches and 5.5 inches.


"iPhone 6" mockup via Ciccarese Design.


A 5.07-inch iPhone display, if the leak is in fact accurate, would essentially split the difference between those two rumored screen sizes. It would also come in more than a full inch larger than the current display found on the iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c.

There is a question as to whether an iPhone with a 5.1-inch display would continue to allow for one-handed use. To date, Apple has changed the screen size on the iPhone only once, jumping from a 3.5-inch to a 4-inch display, citing that it couldn't go any larger without compromising the ability to use the device with just one hand.

But in recent years, smartphone displays have trended to the larger size, with consumers embracing handsets regardless of their ease of one-handed operation.

According to Kuo, Apple apparently plans to include a bezel-less design with the rumored 4.7-inch model to continue to allow one-handed use, while the 5.5-inch model will appeal to those consumers who are not concerned about operating their phone with one hand. The leaked part displayed on Tuesday, however, does not include a bezel-less design.
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A 5.07" display iPhone I would consider it to be a phablet and therefore makes me hope they will keep the 4" alongside.

And I thought that after the 4.1", 4.2", 4.3", 4.4", 4.5", 4.6", 4.7", 4.8", 4.9", 5.0", 5.1", 5.2", 5.3", 5.4" & 5.5" display rumours we'd be covered for any outcome. But unfortunately we now are going to go all out and have the rumour mill include .0x" screens, which could run well into 2015 (without actually counting).
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I've read somewhere else, that this photo shows a 4.7" screen. One has to be careful measuring these things, as the phones aren't from and center, they are at an angle. But one more thing matters.

Turn your phone on, and you will see that the actual screen is slightly smaller than the cutout on the bezel. So if the bezel is being measured, the screen size will come out slightly larger than it really is.
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Oh, and these bezel-less mockups are very nice, but unrealistic.
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4.7" I can live with, but, please, no 5.5" display. And keep the current 4" size.

Besides 5.5" being way too big, we don't need to hear all of the Samsung trollers saying that Apple is now copying Samsung.

Why does Apple bashing and trolling make people feel so good?

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It's the new iwatch.
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4.7" I can live with, but, please, no 5.5" display. And keep the current 4" size.

Besides 5.5" being way too big, we don't need to hear all of the Samsung trollers saying that Apple is now copying Samsung.

This. 

 

I love my 4" phone and am nervous about them going much larger (Yeah, I'm one of those). 

4.7, though, I can do. 5"+ is much too large and the primary reason I did not like the Nexus 5, which was just a hair smaller. 

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I hope this is true. 4.7" just seemed a bit small and 5.5" was too big. Around 5" would be perfect. I feel like Goldilocks and the three bears and 5: is just right. 

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Long fingernails handling the prototype are usually a sign of authenticity. It usually means is a guy in Asia who handle a lot small electronic components.
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This. 

 

I love my 4" phone and am nervous about them going much larger (Yeah, I'm one of those). 

4.7, though, I can do. 5"+ is much too large and the primary reason I did not like the Nexus 5, which was just a hair smaller. 

I cannot for a minute imagine that Apple will go wholesale to a larger format. A new format will be an addition to the present size - which I am pretty sure will remain the better seller, at least in North America and Europe.

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I don't understand... the green grid on your image doesn't fit with the screen.
If this is it, it's too large for my tastes, I hope they keep the 4 inches model.
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I hope this is true. 4.7" just seemed a bit small and 5.5" was too big. Around 5" would be perfect. I feel like Goldilocks and the three bears and 5: is just right. 

Like the Dell Streak, you mean¿



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Long fingernails handling the prototype are usually a sign of authenticity. It usually means is a guy in Asia who handle a lot small electronic components.

I think it would be more authentic if (s)he would have a 'stylus-fingernail' though:

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If Apple comes out with two new sizes and keeps the 5C phone as the third, then users can choose phone size, high technology, or low price, but not any combination of the two.  Complainers gotta complain.

 

I won't  complain either way.  Bigger would be nice.  However, if the phone gets too big, I may have to go back to using my iPod for workouts as a huge phone is not appealing.  I'd love a larger phone for my browsing, though.  Super thin, too.

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note that the IPhone 5s is further away from the person taking the photo. So the actual size of the iPhone 5s should be larger than the photo suggests . The proper way is to look at the right edges iPhone 5s and compare it to the iphone6's left edge. Use that as a reference , you will get the right dimension---- it is about 4.7 inch screen size wise.
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First.. a completely bezel-less design is a pipe dream and will not happen.. Some type of bezel is required to keep the screen from shattering from the smallest of drops..

Eliminate the bezel and you create a phone with on-going screen damage issues.. plain and simple.. this is why I think Kuo is completely full if it and has no clue.. plus Kuo's track record is that of a shotgun .. he spews a ton of things, then only 'touts' the guesses he just 'happened' to get right.. Anyone can do that..

This may well be yet another prototype face plate.. no doubt Apple has tested many designs, 4.7, 5.5, and everything in between.. There is nothing that suggests they were testing all sizes and finally are settling on a 5.1", then release a 4" and 5.1" side by size.. an iPhone and iPhone Pro and charge the extra '$100' for the Pro model..

Keeps current customers happy that like the smaller form-factor, makes devs happy with 16.9 ration not screwing them up, and makes large screen must-have customers happy..
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Here's a better [angled] picture. Try that measurement again. It is clearly 4.7"

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Looks good. If you don't like it, dont buy it. I very much doubt Apple is going to get rid of the 4" formfactor. There's a shitload of people who claim that the only reason people are even buying flagship Android phones instead of iPhones is the size. I guess these phones will test that theory.

Being ideologically opposed to a larger size at this point is simply childish. There are obviously people who prefer these larger phones, whether you agree with them or not.
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Oh, and these bezel-less mockups are very nice, but unrealistic.

 

I love seeing graphic designers who haven't a friggin' clue do hardware design, then get their panties in a bunch when the released model doesn't follow their renderings. Stick to making cute icons in Illustrator/Photoshop, dudes. 

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Neil, you need to either revise or retract this article. Steve from EAST COAST PIXELS clearly did the wrong calculation. The photo is showing a 4.7 inch screen, not 5.1 inch.
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It looks like there are quite a few of those display on that pallet, too many to be in the prototype phase of the phone, for this many displays to show up now, long before the Developer conference or the normal fall releases seems like this product could be right around the corner.

 

If this product is not soon ready for release, and these are not the first shipments of part for production, these could be parts which apple is disposing of since they may have decided to go a different direction with the product. This could be the reason this pallet of parts are in a warehouse where people can walk around with a camera and take pictures.

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Larger iphone is 3 years overdue. They should have been AHEAD of samsung and the other mfg's with this trend. Not years behind as a slow follower. Sad to see what Apple has become under Cook
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I cannot for a minute imagine that Apple will go wholesale to a larger format. A new format will be an addition to the present size - which I am pretty sure will remain the better seller, at least in North America and Europe.

 

I hear this a lot on this forum. People think if Apple releases a 4" and a larger phone that the 4" would be the bigger seller. What I want to know is what do you base this on? In every online poll I have seen in the last two years the larger sizes were an overwhelming majority. And in polls asking between a 4.7" and 5.5" the larger one was winning in all the polls I saw. People that want to keep 4" were only around 10% to the highest I saw at 28%. Many of these polls also have thousands of respondents. I realize polls can be skewed or inaccurate but can all of them be wrong? Anecdotally every single person I know with an iPhone wants a larger display including me. Not one single iPhone owner I know said they are happy with 4".  So please enlighten me on your rationale for thinking a 4" iPhone would outsell a product when all evidence seem to suggest the opposite. This is beginning to remind me of republicans dismissing polling data in the last presidential election.

 

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/21/poll-iphone-6-screen-size/

http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-would-you-buy-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-1

http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/27/iphone-6-size

http://bgr.com/2013/11/11/iphone-6-poll-purchase-intent/

 


Edited by gwmac - 4/15/14 at 9:32am
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I've read somewhere else, that this photo shows a 4.7" screen. One has to be careful measuring these things, as the phones aren't from and center, they are at an angle. But one more thing matters.

Turn your phone on, and you will see that the actual screen is slightly smaller than the cutout on the bezel. So if the bezel is being measured, the screen size will come out slightly larger than it really is.

It is probably 4.7 but from a supply chain POV, it would work better for Apple to release only 1 model at 5"

 

I am warming up to the idea to a bigger iphone - my wallet is ready!

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Neil, you need to either revise or retract this article. Steve from EAST COAST PIXELS clearly did the wrong calculation. The photo is showing a 4.7 inch screen, not 5.1 inch.

 

 

yeah I would have to agree, need someone with an engineering background making the measurement, not some arts degree.

 

I was looking at this attempt to measure and could not see how on the black phone, he showed the know measurement of 2.31" and then on the one what display a measurement of 4.42". If you simply took the 2.31" line and laid it on the while display you can clearly see if not almost 2x as large, not sure how he even came to the 4.42" number.

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This is hysterical - not only would it mean Apple copies a phatphone but also it's screen ratio? Priceless!
 
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Size DOES matter!
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I hear this a lot on this forum. People think if Apple releases a 4" and a larger phone that the 4" would be the bigger seller. What I want to know is what do you base this on? In every online poll I have seen in the last two years the larger sizes were an overwhelming majority. And in polls asking between a 4.7" and 5.5" the larger one was winning in all the polls I saw. People that want to keep 4" were only around 10% to the highest I saw at 28%. Many of these polls also have thousands of respondents. I realize polls can be skewed or inaccurate but can all of them be wrong? Anecdotally every single person I know with an iPhone wants a larger display including me. Not one single iPhone owner I know said they are happy with 4".  So please enlighten me on your rationale for thinking a 4" iPhone would outsell a product when all evidence seem to suggest the opposite. This is beginning to remind me of republicans dismissing polling data in the last presidential election.

 

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/21/poll-iphone-6-screen-size/

http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-would-you-buy-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-1

http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/27/iphone-6-size

http://bgr.com/2013/11/11/iphone-6-poll-purchase-intent/

 

I do not believe these surveys, why, they are just people opinions of what they think they want. As Steve has always said and is true consumers do not know what they want. If they put an actually larger phone in these people hands and ask them to compare it to what they want and see if they would buy on the spot, I bet the results will tell you something different.

 

Even Google own date on the number of Android phones with larger displays is only about 15% of the population of Android devices. With Samsung and others all pushing larger displays why isn't this number a lot  higher then. Google's actual data is telling a different story than someone asking people if they want a bigger display. With all things being equal they probably want a bigger display, until they have to use it. Google's data is showing actual consumers usage and purchasing preference, Too many company lost their shirts building product base on consumers opinions verse where they actually spend their money.

 

 
  ldpi mdpi tvdpi hdpi xhdpi xxhdpi Total
Small 8.1%           8.1%
Normal   13.2%   33.7% 19.8% 12.5% 79.2%
Large 0.7% 4.4% 1.5% 0.6% 0.6%   7.8%
Xlarge 0.1% 4.2%   0.3% 0.3%   4.9%
Total 8.9% 21.8% 1.5% 34.6% 20.7% 12.5%

Data collected during a 7-day period ending on April 1, 2014. 
Any screen configurations with less than 0.1% distribution are not shown.

 


Edited by Maestro64 - 4/15/14 at 9:43am
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That could be the 5.5" model.... More screen could go over the speaker or the button.
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Originally Posted by Adrayven View Post

First.. a completely bezel-less design is a pipe dream and will not happen.. Some type of bezel is required to keep the screen from shattering from the smallest of drops..

Eliminate the bezel and you create a phone with on-going screen damage issues.. plain and simple.. this is why I think Kuo is completely full if it and has no clue.. plus Kuo's track record is that of a shotgun .. he spews a ton of things, then only 'touts' the guesses he just 'happened' to get right.. Anyone can do that..

This may well be yet another prototype face plate.. no doubt Apple has tested many designs, 4.7, 5.5, and everything in between.. There is nothing that suggests they were testing all sizes and finally are settling on a 5.1", then release a 4" and 5.1" side by size.. an iPhone and iPhone Pro and charge the extra '$100' for the Pro model..

Keeps current customers happy that like the smaller form-factor, makes devs happy with 16.9 ration not screwing them up, and makes large screen must-have customers happy..


Wouldn't a sapphire screen mitigate the screen damage issues?
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It's about 4.8 inches across, definitely not as much as 5.1. I've 3D transformed the image and superimposed an iPhone 5s over the left phone and then measured the ratio of the display diagonals and the phone cover on the right is 1.2x bigger.
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Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post

Even Google own date on the number of Android phones with larger displays is only about 10% of the population of Android devices.

 

“But but but but but but but that’s ONLY because the others are sold to third world countries because they can’t afford the big…”

 

See, they can’t even worm their way into making Android look good. :lol:

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I do not believe these surveys, why, they are just people opinions of what they think they want. As Steve has always said and is true consumers do not know what they want. If they put an actually larger phone in these people hands and ask them to compare it to what they want and see if they would buy on the spot, I bet the results will tell you something different.

 

Even Google own date on the number of Android phones with larger displays is only about 10% of the population of Android devices. With Samsung and others all pushing larger displays why is this number not higher then. Google's actual data is telling a different story than someone asking people if they want a bigger display. With all things being equal they probably want a bigger display, until they have to use it.

 

Of course  a smaller percentage of Android users use larger screens since these phones tend to be far more expensive. In fact they are priced around the same as the iPhone. Most cellphone users in the world live in dirt poor countries and can only afford to buy dirt cheap sub $200 phones which tend to be smaller and in many cases run older versions of Android. Once there are larger phones under $200 I can promise you all those people will buy them over their smaller ones. It is not a preference for a smaller display it is a preference to eat dinner and not go homeless. 

 

By your logic when Apple releases a larger phone then you should respect their ability to tell you what you really want and buy a larger one since you were wrong in thinking 4" was a good size for you. 


Edited by gwmac - 4/15/14 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by gwmac View Post

By your logic when Apple releases a larger phone then you should respect their ability to tell you what you really want and buy a larger one since you were wrong in thinking 4” was a good size for you. 

 

Unlike some people, I’m fine with being proven wrong.

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Is this made of saphire? 1wink.gif
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Larger iphone is 3 years overdue. They should have been AHEAD of samsung and the other mfg's with this trend. Not years behind as a slow follower. Sad to see what Apple has become under Cook

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I hear this a lot on this forum. People think if Apple releases a 4" and a larger phone that the 4" would be the bigger seller. What I want to know is what do you base this on? In every online poll I have seen in the last two years the larger sizes were an overwhelming majority. And in polls asking between a 4.7" and 5.5" the larger one was winning in all the polls I saw. People that want to keep 4" were only around 10% to the highest I saw at 28%. Many of these polls also have thousands of respondents. I realize polls can be skewed or inaccurate but can all of them be wrong? Anecdotally every single person I know with an iPhone wants a larger display including me. Not one single iPhone owner I know said they are happy with 4".  So please enlighten me on your rationale for thinking a 4" iPhone would outsell a product when all evidence seem to suggest the opposite. This is beginning to remind me of republicans dismissing polling data in the last presidential election.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/21/poll-iphone-6-screen-size/
http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-would-you-buy-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-1
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/27/iphone-6-size

http://bgr.com/2013/11/11/iphone-6-poll-purchase-intent/



Is this a scientific survey or a web poll?
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I agree with the Poll above. I believe we will see the small 4" iphone screens go the way of the buggy whip once the larger screens are on sale.  Does anyone want the smaller original iphone or 3GS screen size anymore?  Nope.  Think folks.  Apple is way behind and playing catch up. The larger iphones are the last huge catalyst for upgrade and Apple knows it.  It is pondering a $100 add'l for the larger screen iphone to milk it to the end.

 

Once on sale the only people buying smaller screen iphones are the ones who do it SOLELY because of price.  If Apple had the price the same the number of small screen iphones sold would barely be a rounding error.

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Unlike some people, I’m fine with being proven wrong.

 

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