Originally Posted by Baron Munchausen
I know many will say that this is absurd, given that physical units of the new model are only just flowing, but I have to post this as do not see myself buying a 2013 MP to replace my 8-core MP.
That is fine nobody is twisting your arm. Besides I look at this Mac Pro in the same way as I looked at the first iPad - it is a proof of concept that will be greatly enhanced by the next round of technology. The next round of technology is nothing to shake a stick at either, there is a very good chance that by the time the Mac Pro gets its next major rev that we could see 14 nm technology in the CPU, GPUs and other parts of the system. Those GPUs and CPUs could also be leveraging new memory technologies too.
By the way I don't want anybody to confuse the thought about "proof of concept" with the thought that the new Pro is in anyway junk. It obviously isn't. What it is is a very forward looking machine that is designed with an obvious eye toward technology is going.
A supermicro board awaits, quite frankly, if I cannot delay. I hope I can.
You can do anything you want! Just don't come here expecting a lot of support for your idea.
1. Dual Socket option
You have two cores instead of one that can go hyper.
Some tasks may be better on one socket, but dual 6's are cheaper and can go to higher clocks than a single 12.
Scope to go to many more cores.
Admittedly this is possibly the new Mac Pros biggest short coming. However the question then becomes why do you think you need all of those cores. Having trouble running Crisis?
This is the new socket for the Haswell-EP and Broadwell CPUs, that are arriving this year.
Will give a couple of years life and a longer upgrade horizon.
What is the point? You can't compare the Mac Pros hardware, designed a couple of years ago, with hardware that hasn't even been delivered yet. As for Broadwell based XEONs, Intel hasn't actually shipped 14 nm yet. Im hoping and probably more than a few others, that Intel has XEON based on 14nm technology by mid year 2015 but that is a ways off.
Beyond that buying a specific motherboard now in the hopes that it will optimally support future hardware is a big gamble. It is far better to wait for the processor advancement you are looking for to hit the shelves in volume. Far to many things can change between now and when Broadwell XEON actually ships.
3. 8 DIMMs, or 64GB support in 4 DIMMs. 128GB is minimum looking ahead, with 256GB far more fitting, IMHO.
Again we have no idea if you even have a light inmate need for all that RAM. At some point it might make more sense to cluster machines rather than to try to overload them with cores and lots of RAM. Why? Current Intel technology doesn't really handle a large number of cores on each motherboard well. There isn't enough bandwidth to memory to feed the cores properly for some workloads. What is right is very much user dependent.
It should be noted that Intel is doing a lot of work on the bandwidth problem and as such the new XEON architectures are very interesting. However proof is in the pudding and as such I wouldn't buy until the pudding is served.
I do not ask for more internals. In fact, I hoped for a device like this many years ago when I first heard of Thunderbolt, namely a machine connected to expansion like some kind of Dr Octopus, though as a mid-tier device.
I certainly don't get as worked up over it as I did at first. However Apple would do well to implement another SSD slot in the machine. Frankly it looks like it is already a possibility but that they just ran out of PCI Express lanes. A fast internal SSD would be a wonderful scratch disk and for some apps could make the Mac Pro less dependent upon external disks for normal work flows.
Other than that I have to agree the architecture of the new Mac Pro is surprisingly satisfying.
Which reminds me...
4. Mid tier single-socket Haswell version. Mac Midi.
Those puppies will stretch to 8 cores.
No ECC, for sure, but that is not the point.
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Honestly there has never been a better time for a $1500 Mac that is a real desktop performance machine. They can even build it into the same Mac Pro chassis for all I care. Haswell however will likely be a thing of the past until this actually ships. An ideal machine here would support one of the new RAM standards such as DDR 4, Memory Cube or something else. Given a substantially faster memory system and Intels revised Broadwell GPUs it ought to be a fine machine that can run without the need for an external GPU for many users.
In any event I feel a sense of technology lust in your post. That is never a good thing because it can blind you to what is your real needs. No where in this post of yours did you cover what your needs where, rather it is a post glamorizing stuff that Intel hasn't even shipped yet. As such I really doubt that you have a pressing need for any new hardware. If so why not wait for the next Mac Pro revision.