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Google reportedly became "carbon neutral" in 2007.

Google maintains at least a couple of dozen data centers and perhaps more with quite a few spread around the world in locations that perhaps have no access to "green energy". But kudos to Apple for keeping it in mind as they build new centers.
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/05/15/google-data-center-faq/

Apple owns the largest private clean energy facility in the US. Where Google depended on Duke in NC to get around to providing green energy Apple built out their own solar farm.

The difference between Google and Apple is when Google touts another $x for y MW in renewables it's a contract for purchase from a utility. When Apple does so it's often actual new capacity it has built out on its own property.

Apple generates far more green energy than Google does.
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Apple generates far more green energy than Google does.

Perhaps they do. dunno. How many KW's of "green energy" does Apple actually produce compared to what Google actually produces?

It doesn't really matter all that much as both companies seem committed to not poisoning the communities they operate in.
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post #43 of 46
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Perhaps they do. dunno. How many KW's of "green energy" does Apple actually produce compared to what Google actually produces?
 

That's a good question.  Another one is how much land is used to generate that energy.  Also every one likes to quote peak output of a panel array, under ideal circumstances.  I'd like to know the average output, over the course of a full year.  The push towards alternative technologies is great, but at the same time I think we need to be a little more realistic on where everything is today.  People see this ad and think wow, Apple is running on pure sunshine and that's just not the case.

 

I'm not saying Apple shouldn't be exploring options like this but for how worked up people can get when an add can be slightly misleading, its amazing how many people are cool with this.  I guess its all in the message and wether or not that's what you want believe...

Just say no to MacMall.  They don't honor their promotions and won't respond to customer inquiries.  There are better retailers out there.
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Just say no to MacMall.  They don't honor their promotions and won't respond to customer inquiries.  There are better retailers out there.
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post #44 of 46
While I applaud Apple for embracing environmental policies, it falls down badly in one area and that is reuse/retasking of iPhones.
Many old iPhones end up in landfill not because they are broken or useless but because they are locked to a carrier and cannot be easily given away to someone to use with another carrier or even sold S/H.
A case in point, here in Japan where the iPhone is phenomenally popular and where people upgrade about every 18 months, all iPhones are locked to either SoftBank, au or Docomo.
These carriers refuse to unlock out-of-contract iPhones so people just toss them in the garbage or a drawer (where 120 million phones are now sitting unused) because they cannot be used outside Japan. Although old, these phones have life and value in NIEs like India and Africa where they could be reused instead of doing nothing or worse polluting landfill.
Apple could solve this in a blink by whitelisting out-of-contract phones or forcing carriers to do so.
Come on Tim, do the RIGHT thing.
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These carriers refuse to unlock out-of-contract iPhones so people just toss them in the garbage or a drawer (where 120 million phones are now sitting unused) because they cannot be used outside Japan. Although old, these phones have life and value in NIEs like India and Africa where they could be reused instead of doing nothing or worse polluting landfill.
 

Unlocking of out of contract phones is really something your government should legally mandate of the carriers. It falls under an issue of consumer rights once you're out of the contract period on subsidized equipment.

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Yes, but trying to get the Japanese government to do anything on its own initiative to protect consumers over business is like trying to get blood out of stone.What we need is to get the Japanese housewives' consumer federation on our side—they are a force to reckon with.

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