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Rumor again claims Apple's jumbo-sized 5.5" iPhone will launch after new, larger 4.7" model

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Claims that Apple's rumored 5.5-inch iPhone will bow months after its purported 4.7-inch sibling were backed up Tuesday with a new report from Taiwan claiming that Apple may be having trouble fitting an ultra-slim battery for the new device.



Apple is thought to need a battery less than 2 millimeters tall for its new "phablet," a reduction of about one-third from the current generation. Producing such thin cells is said to be an issue for Apple's manufacturing partners -- which reportedly include Samsung and LG Chemical -- according to Taiwan's Commercial Times.

The publication also reiterated previous claims that Apple is considering calling the still-unannounced device the "iPhone Air," following its recent naming convention for ultra-thin products. The handset would join the MacBook Air and iPad Air in the category.

While Apple has in the past been seen as reluctant to significantly increase the size of the iPhone's display, many now expect the company to release at least two larger-screened models this year. The first, a 4.7-inch device, is believed to be positioned as the "iPhone 6" and will likely launch early this fall.

The second, larger device is expected to ship later, and the battery issues may be part of the reason. Well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities, who has a track record of accurately predicting Apple's product moves, said earlier this month that the company would release the larger handset in the fourth quarter of 2014, possibly months after its smaller sibling.
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"Rumor.."

Who is this person??  Where do they get their information??

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The most popular Android phone models are between the 4.7-5" range. I cannot really see Apple playing a "who can make the largest smart phone" game and coming out with a 5.5" model -- the iPhablet. If I were Apple, I would make the phone wider (maybe 720 pixel wide display) and having vertical black bars for older apps.

If Apple does come out with a 4.7" phone in a game of "me too", then I could see it jumping to a higher resolution than 1080p commonplace on smart phones nowadays. Perhaps doubling the pixel density to something like 2272x1280.
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If Apple does come out with a 4.7" phone in a game of "me too", then I could see it jumping to a higher resolution than 1080p commonplace on smart phones nowadays. Perhaps doubling the pixel density to something like 2272x1280.

 

With no currently sold or supported iPhones using the "Pre-Retina" resolution of 320x480 anymore, I think Apple could make room for at least 1 additional resolution target for developers.  With the current 640x960 essentially becoming the new 1x, and either a new doubling or alternate resolution [1080p] taking up a new 2x position for larger screens.

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I sure hope so. I'll be able to come back to the iPhone is Apple makes a larger screen.
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I don't really care about the physical size so long as the magnification of the screen contents is improved; if you're over 40 and need reading glasses, text and icons on the iPhones right now are just too small to read.
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I'm all for the 4.7. Phablet not so much, though I'll reserve judgement until I see it.
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You've got to be kidding. Apple does not have problems in fitting a battery into an iPhone. Period. That is the one component of this rumor that completely labels it a lie.
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Doesn't Apple get that only they (and maybe just maybe a select few others) care about thinness? We don't care about how thin it is, just give us longer lasting batteries and devices... I'm sure 90% of all people would sacrifice a few mm or .mm if it meant the device would last twice as long on a charge...
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I sure hope so. I'll be able to come back to the iPhone is Apple makes a larger screen.
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I don't really care about the physical size so long as the magnification of the screen contents is improved; if you're over 40 and need reading glasses, text and icons on the iPhones right now are just too small to read.

Why Are You So SELF-CENTERED ?

Half of i-Phone Users Are WOMEN.

They Haven't Got PAW OF BEAST like YOU !


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Iphones are without a doubt the perfect size, no matter how much i love my Note size phones.

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People would gravitate to a thin large phone. Then if you need more battery you could get a battery case and not add too much bulk if it's thin already.
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Doesn't Apple get that only they (and maybe just maybe a select few others) care about thinness? We don't care about how thin it is, just give us longer lasting batteries and devices... I'm sure 90% of all people would sacrifice a few mm or .mm if it meant the device would last twice as long on a charge...

 

Thicker equals heavier, and people certainly care about weight. A larger screen phone both weighs more due to the screen and case sizes, and requires more power (for equal screen technology), and so a larger, heavier battery for equal endurance. Not an easy balancing act for the manufacturer. However it seems reasonable to imagine that people who want a larger screen would be willing to compromise somewhat on weight.

 

My own best guess: Apple is very likely to introduce a larger phone, but not a phablet size. The larger phone would supplement the present form factor, not replace it. 

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Why Are You So SELF-CENTERED ?

Half of i-Phone Users Are WOMEN.

They Haven't Got PAW OF BEAST like YOU !



It's called having a choice. Keep the 4" for all I care. I just want a LARGER SCREEN. Right now, Apple doesn't give me a choice as they think the 4" is best for me. Apple is wrong.
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Doesn't seem like this larger screen device is probably part of the iPad line? Like an iPad Nano?

A 5.5" phone seems too big of a jump, and not something they would do...
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Why Are You So SELF-CENTERED ?

Half of i-Phone Users Are WOMEN.

They Haven't Got PAW OF BEAST like YOU !

 

 

So judgemental! It's the women in my life who are complaining they switched to Samsung because the iPhone screen was not easy to read for them because the text was too small. And I like the way you know what gender I am, how big my fingers are, and my motivations for posting. All that knowledge without even having met me! Wow. Brain of a supercomputer (with no data).

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Doesn't Apple get that only they (and maybe just maybe a select few others) care about thinness? We don't care about how thin it is, just give us longer lasting batteries and devices... I'm sure 90% of all people would sacrifice a few mm or .mm if it meant the device would last twice as long on a charge...

Totally agree. Something along the line of 75% to 125% more battery life would be pretty nice. I wouldn't want a phone too much thinner than the iPhone 5. A little more round in the corners would be nice but that is about it to me.

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So judgemental! It's the women in my life who are complaining they switched to Samsung because the iPhone screen was not easy to read for them because the text was too small. And I like the way you know what gender I am, how big my fingers are, and my motivations for posting. All that knowledge without even having met me! Wow. Brain of a supercomputer (with no data).


What Kind of Woman Are You TALKING ABOUT ?

Like THIS ???



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Kuo's 2013 roadmap was more than 50% wrong.
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What Kind of Woman Are You TALKING ABOUT ?
 

 

 

Of course, you're a troll. Bye!

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What Kind of Woman Are You TALKING ABOUT ?

Like THIS ???



Man, get a life. There are people who love Apple but would like just a little more choice than what is currently offered. I see woman wanting other phones because they have a larger screen everyday I work. So, Apple could keep them if they have more choice.

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Of course, you're a troll. Bye!

 

I was surprised that you answered the first time.

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Doesn't Apple get that only they (and maybe just maybe a select few others) care about thinness? We don't care about how thin it is, just give us longer lasting batteries and devices... I'm sure 90% of all people would sacrifice a few mm or .mm if it meant the device would last twice as long on a charge...

As someone who keeps my phone in my pocket, I do care about the thinness. I really hope that all of this phablet talk is just a rumor. Besides the impracticalness of them, I really think people look silly with giant phones up to their ears.

 

I am not sure what the complaint about the battery is (at least for the 5s). My battery lasts all day if not longer, with no problem. How often do are you away from an outlet that you can't charge it overnight?

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post
Claims that Apples rumored 5.5-inch iPhone will bow months after its purported 4.7-inch sibling

 

The last time that Apple was “going to release two devices”, one after another, it… didn’t happen at all.

 

And we’ve forgotten that? Even I haven’t forgotten that. I don’t know what device it was supposed to be, nor when it was, but that it happened is still up there. 

 

Originally Posted by SirLance99 View Post
I sure hope so. I'll be able to come back to the iPhone is Apple makes a larger screen.

 

That’s okay; you can keep looking foolish using other products.

 

Originally Posted by HAMETA View Post
They Haven't Got PAW OF BEAST like YOU !

 

大好きだよ。

 

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It's called having a choice.

 

Do you really want the choice of looking like a fool? There is no “right”, but Apple is also not “wrong”.

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5.5 = iPod touch? Why the hell would Apple spend millions on researching the best functioning phone size, only to throw it away??
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More and more every day I see young people, teens and early twenties, using large screen Android phones.

 

Even a year ago I saw more iPhones in use but that trend seems to be changing amongst people in that age group.

 

Anecdotal evidence... true... but...

 

(oh... and I have never bought the 5.5" iPhone rumor)

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The last time that Apple was “going to release two devices”, one after another, it… didn’t happen at all.

 

And we’ve forgotten that? Even I haven’t forgotten that. I don’t know what device it was supposed to be, nor when it was, but that it happened is still up there. 

 

 

That’s okay; you can keep looking foolish using other products.

 

 

大好きだよ。

 

 

Do you really want the choice of looking like a fool? There is no “right”, but Apple is also not “wrong”.

You think you are all high and mighty by calling people names? It's in your opinion that others that want something other than an Apple iPhone look like a fool. What I and others want should not effect you in any way. In fact it doesn't effect you, so why do you care so much?

 

Just because my needs differ from yours doesn't make you grand master on what a smart device should be. Phones have evolved way past the use of calling now days. Wither you like it or not, over time phones, even your precious iPhone, will get larger. That's just how things are evolving if you look at the big picture a decade from now. Smart devices are going to manifest into mostly a hub that controls all aspects of your life in every way.  

 

So, please get off your high horse and let others buy, have and enjoy what they want.

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Originally Posted by SirLance99 View Post
You think you are all high and mighty by calling people names?

 

If I had actually done that, I don’t imagine so.

 
It's in your opinion that others that want something other than an Apple iPhone look like a fool.

 

Never said that. Don’t put words in my mouth.

 

Wither you like it or not, over time phones, even your precious iPhone, will get larger. 

 

Can’t wait for 20” ‘phones’.

 

That's just how things are evolving if you look at the big picture a decade from now. 

 

Except you can’t see a decade out.

 
what they want. 

 

You don’t have a clue what you actually want. That’s the problem.

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It's called having a choice. Keep the 4" for all I care. I just want a LARGER SCREEN. Right now, Apple doesn't give me a choice as they think the 4" is best for me. Apple is wrong.

 

I will be sure to let Tim Cook know that Apple has failed you and they need to change direction.

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If I had actually done that, I don’t imagine so.

 

Never said that. Don’t put words in my mouth.

 

Can’t wait for 20” ‘phones’.

 

Except you can’t see a decade out.

 

You don’t have a clue what you actually want. That’s the problem.

I'm sorry, you're right. You know everything and everyone should conform to what you and Apple think is right. 

 

Seriously, please explain to me as I'm willing to listen to other points of views, why you care so much if people want a bigger phone than what Apple currently offers? How does it affect you in any way if Apple does offer a couple more larger screen sizes? I'm not trolling you at all as I really would like you understand your thought process. Why are you so against a larger form factor? One handed use doesn't count as some people like myself really don't care about the one thing. Even though I can do one handed operation with my current larger phone 80% of the time. The other 20% you need two hands anyways. 

 

I'm now ready to listen to your thoughtful discussion. If I could, I would buy you a drink as I listen to your different point of view.

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Originally Posted by SirLance99 View Post
I'm sorry, you're right. You know everything and everyone should conform to what you and Apple think is right. 

 

Not true, but if it’s what you believe, I’ll gladly end the argument here.

 
why you care so much if people want a bigger phone than what Apple currently offers?

 

I care about products being actually used.

 
Why are you so against a larger form factor? One handed use doesn’t count…

 

Why are you for a larger form factor? Two handed use doesn’t count.

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would upgrade from my 5s to a 4.7 screen eventually, but not too compelling for me. would be much more impressed by integrated solar panel in the screen or pressure sensitive touch or longer battery life.
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I will be sure to let Tim Cook know that Apple has failed you and they need to change direction.

I never said Apple failed. They have done the opposite as we all know. I was just stating that I, and many others, despite what you think, want a larger form factor. There is nothing wrong with wanting that as that services our needs and wants. 

 

Apple is doing extremely well, I do not even think about saying they are not. Although, I work in the industry where phones and tablets are sold and see each and everyday people choosing a larger Android phone when they had an iPhone previously. When I ask them why they are switching, the #1 answer is for a larger screen. NOW, I know, because I also see it everyday, that people go the other way as well coming from an Android to an iPhone.  So don't twist my words around on this. It does go both ways, I understand that.

 

So, if Apple made a larger screen phone they would not lose those who just wanted a larger screen phone.

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Why are you for a larger form factor? 

My dad always said don't answer a question with a question.  I'm also curious why you're opposed to a larger iPhone.  I would prefer a larger one, but I also hope they keep the 4"- which is what my wife would prefer.

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I'm also curious why you're opposed to a larger iPhone.

 

To be clear, I’m against a phone unusable with one hand. If a larger screen can retain this in full by making the device thinner, that’s another story. I figure there’s just a little big more space that can be squeezed out in this way.

 

But for a device that cannot be used with one hand, the situations in which it can be used at all are diminished greatly. Why would you want a device with less functionality? How is it that people can’t see that being forced to dedicate both hands to the operation of your phone would decrease the number of situations in which this phone is usable?

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I will be sure to let Tim Cook know that Apple has failed you and they need to change direction.

 

... and what direction would that be in your mind?

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To be clear, I’m against a phone unusable with one hand. If a larger screen can retain this in full by making the device thinner, that’s another story. I figure there’s just a little big more space that can be squeezed out in this way.

 

But for a device that cannot be used with one hand, the situations in which it can be used at all are diminished greatly. Why would you want a device with less functionality? How is it that people can’t see that being forced to dedicate both hands to the operation of your phone would decrease the number of situations in which this phone is usable?

 

I use two hands regardless, so does my Wife, so do most, if not all, of my friends.

 

Keep the 4" for people like yourself.

 

Give people a choice by having a larger phone as well. (but that has already been said)

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To be clear, I’m against a phone unusable with one hand. If a larger screen can retain this in full by making the device thinner, that’s another story. I figure there’s just a little big more space that can be squeezed out in this way.

 

But for a device that cannot be used with one hand, the situations in which it can be used at all are diminished greatly. Why would you want a device with less functionality? How is it that people can’t see that being forced to dedicate both hands to the operation of your phone would decrease the number of situations in which this phone is usable?

When I sit and think about what I do one handed and what I do two handed on my phone- I feel like a bigger phone could still facilitate one handed and 2 handed operation similarly.

Landscape mode essentially requires 2 hands, so we're really talking about portrait.

 

With a large phone (say 4.7") you could still use 1 hand for almost every task I use 1 hand for now- you can still swipe to unlock, dial a phone number & handle all call functions, scroll the internet, selecting and scrolling through apps, scrolling through & deleting emails, selecting notifications, etc.  Apple is very "right hand" dominate- deleting things, and buttons, are always on the right.  The only exception I wouldn't be able to use with one hand would be the notification drop-down.

 

I only use two hands when I text or type- so that would be a moot point, as I use two hands with that now.

 

So outside of the notification pull-down, I don't see the loss of function.

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Half of i-Phone Users Are WOMEN.

They Haven't Got PAW OF BEAST like YOU !



What's funny is I'm seeing more and more women with the Note 3.
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I never said Apple failed. They have done the opposite as we all know. I was just stating that I, and many others, despite what you think, want a larger form factor. There is nothing wrong with wanting that as that services our needs and wants. 

 

Apple is doing extremely well, I do not even think about saying they are not. Although, I work in the industry where phones and tablets are sold and see each and everyday people choosing a larger Android phone when they had an iPhone previously. When I ask them why they are switching, the #1 answer is for a larger screen. NOW, I know, because I also see it everyday, that people go the other way as well coming from an Android to an iPhone.  So don't twist my words around on this. It does go both ways, I understand that.

 

So, if Apple made a larger screen phone they would not lose those who just wanted a larger screen phone.

 

Stop this ridiculousness. Companies make smart business decisions that balance market behavior, profitability, and many other considerations. You, yourself, recognize that the market flows in both directions. So Apple has determined that it's not in their interest to try to flow with the market. They decided they are willing to potentially lose a relatively small percentage of the market that "can't live without" a larger screen iPhone, matte display, 17-inch MacBook, Performa-level Mac Pro, etc... in order to focus on a much larger, more stable piece of the market. That is a smart strategy. It is also the direction the company has been on for years. And they base their decisions on far more extensive market analysis than we have the resources to undertake (and they don't share it publicly). Apple's profits clearly demonstrate that this is a sound strategy--and you recognize this. Their extremely loyal customer base also pays deference to that fact.
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