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post #41 of 64
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Samsung committed perjury. Anyone?

 

They’ve committed crimes from theft to murder. Doesn’t mean they won’t get away with it.

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post #42 of 64
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Samsung committed perjury. Anyone?


That's certainly a possibility. I guess it depends on the person questioned at that time being aware of this clause in the MADA.

post #43 of 64
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

They’ve committed crimes from theft to murder. Doesn’t mean they won’t get away with it.

 

Murder???

 

Citation please!

post #44 of 64
Originally Posted by CogitoDexter View Post

Murder??? Citation please!

 

Isn’t that what I keep seeing? From their executives and in their factories or somesuch… Hmm. I’ll find it.

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post #45 of 64
The court let Samsung off the hook for releasing confidential information, so why should it fear getting caught perjuring itself?

So far Samsung has paid zero penalty for years of lying and stealing.
post #46 of 64
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Originally Posted by Mangy Dog View Post

The court let Samsung off the hook for releasing confidential information, so why should it fear getting caught perjuring itself?

So far Samsung has paid zero penalty for years of lying and stealing.

FWIW Apple themselves released that same court-stamped confidential information. Both claim it was inadvertent, tho I don't tend to believe Samsung as much as I would Apple.
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post #47 of 64
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This doesn't really matter because 1) Apple can sue them over these at a later date, and 2) this shows that Google is actually supporting Samsung and this might give Apple the ammunition they need to sue Google directly even though they technically gave the software to Samsung for no charge. Google is now a co-conspirator in this lawsuit unless Judge Koh says it doesn't matter.

They also (still) lied to the court: Samsung sought indemnification from Google, as early as 4/5/12. DroidFTW's no-true-Scotsman defense doesn't change that.

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post #48 of 64
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Originally Posted by Sensi View Post

Zz more of the same inane garbage and overall libel. The author of this 'article' could be sued for affirming that Samsung lied without any proof, despite his usual tedious non-demonstration, that's defamatory...

Exhibit 3 contradicts the statement that Samsung sought no indemnification from third parties. They did. Try again.

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post #49 of 64
Samsung lies.

In other obvious news the sky is up and the ground is down.

You fandroids take a s-troll.
post #50 of 64
ScamScum needs big brother to pay for their lies.
post #51 of 64
Of course the last time Samsung was obviously caught out not following court rules (passing evidence of Apple's contracts to other branches of the same company), it turned out that somehow Apple's lawyers had made the same information public without noticing it. Samsung may be slimy, but you can't deny that they are equally slick and seem to avoid any repercussions on anything they do. It seems like they always manage to get away with any subterfuge they try. The CEO's own ability to avoid prosecution and legal consequences is the prime example here. Even stranger is how many otherwise honest people who think that Samsung is the hardworking innovator with the "real" patents. I guess some people are willing to take a bribe even if it is cheaper smart phones for everyone.
post #52 of 64

Lie after lie Samsung can't be trusted even in court. The judge and jury should way heavily on this in favor of Apple if they have any brains at all. Samsung is a copycat, lying, cheating, scumbag with no morales and will do anything to make a buck including stealing other companies ideas and products and claiming them as there own.

post #53 of 64
Unfortunately Judge Koh lacks the balls to do what's right.
post #54 of 64
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Originally Posted by bobbyfozz View Post
 

I hope the jury is paying attention, so is Lucy Koh.

 

Lucy Koh is already in Apple's pocket.

post #55 of 64
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As noted yesterday - I a practicing attorney.
 

 

Are you a IP lawyer or a real-estate lawyer?

post #56 of 64

Just so people know, when a company uses or buys another companies IP, it is not unusual for the selling/giving company to indemnify the purchasing/using company if some sues them over their use of the IP. The fact Google is willing to pay Samsung costs for the IP that Apple is suing Samsung over is not unusual. Also, the purchasing company does not automatically get indemnified, they would have to ask for it, and Google most likely did not offer this to all their licensees. From the sounds of it the agreement that Samsung may have had with Google required them to defend against the lawsuit and do everything they could to mitigate the costs and risk, otherwise, Google would not indemnify them. Meaning Samsung could not throw up there hands and say uncle and give Apple what every they wanted. 

 

This explains why Samsung is fighting so hard to claim the value is much lower, they are not arguing they did not sell a product with IP which they did not have the rights to, and why they claiming it was all Google's fault. Again, Google may not be required to pay unless it can be shown the IP in question was in fact theirs.

post #57 of 64
I like how Samsung bought patents AFTER being sued by Apple. Always finding creative ways to work around stealing. lol
post #58 of 64
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Yep, you are right!

http://stopsamsung.wordpress.com

Allot of people dying to help further Samsung business.

They are evil!
That just made me HATE them even more, OMG.

I swear I will NEVER buy another one of their products EVER again!
post #59 of 64

Apple promised to make Facetime an open standard/open source program so that everybody could adopt it. I'm still waiting for it.

post #60 of 64
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Originally Posted by Smallwheels View Post

Apple promised to make Facetime an open standard/open source program so that everybody could adopt it. I'm still waiting for it.

Not really relevant or anything. But I am with you. Of course, there are also reasons why they haven't. Nothing that they have officially stated, but guessing this has something to do with it.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/14/virnetx-heads-back-to-court-adds-latest-apple-products-to-facetime-patent-lawsuit
post #61 of 64

From the man himself:

 

http://youtu.be/j0L3LDabve8?t=1h36m40s

 

Starbird73 the story you mentioned was years after this presentation. It didn't stop Apple from releasing that information back in 2010.

post #62 of 64
Shocking news, who would have believed Samsung is capable of lying?! /s
post #63 of 64
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Originally Posted by Smallwheels View Post

From the man himself:

http://youtu.be/j0L3LDabve8?t=1h36m40s

Starbird73 the story you mentioned was years after this presentation. It didn't stop Apple from releasing that information back in 2010.

That's the point. They have had patent issues since 2011, IIRC. And sometime last year they made a change and that is when the reliability took a hit.
post #64 of 64

While I am disturbed by Samsung's lying, I am even more disturbed by Google.  Not only did Google steal Apples property, but they then hid behind Samsung. "Do no Evil" my ass.  I personally and moving toward being as Google free as I can. 

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