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Though its total shipments fell year over year last quarter, Apple and its iPad still accounts for about a third of all tablets pushed to market last quarter, though research firm IDC has predicted overall tablet growth will be slow throughout 2014.




The latest data from IDC issued on Thursday shows that tablet shipments grew just 3.9 percent year over year in the first quarter of 2014. Apple already reported its own iPad shipments of 16.4 million last week, a year-over-year decline of 16.1 percent that the company said was largely due to channel inventory fluctuations.

IDC estimates that Apple's iPad accounted for 32.5 percent of all tablets shipped in the March quarter, good for first place. Samsung is estimated at second place with 11.2 million units shipped, giving it a 22.3 percent share and 32 percent year over year growth.

From there the competition thins, with Asus taking a distant third on shipments of 2.5 million tablets. Lenovo was fourth with 2.1 million units, while Amazon and its Kindle Fire line took fifth with 1 million for the quarter.

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Total tablet shipments for the quarter are estimated to have been 50.4 million units, up 3.9 percent from the 48.6 million shipped during the same period a year ago. IDC has predicted that 2014 will prove to be a "challenging year" for the tablet market.

"The rise of large-screen phones and consumers who are holding on to their existing tablets for ever longer periods of time were both contributing factors to a weaker-than-anticipated quarter for tablets and 2-in-1s," said Tom Mainelli, IDC program vice president of Devices and Displays. "In addition, commercial growth has not been robust enough to offset the slowing of consumer shipments."

Though Apple is the market leader in terms of hardware, on the software front IDC declared Android the leader, accounting for about two-thirds of tablets shipped during the three-month span. Windows tablets were essentially a non-factor, though IDC cited that some devices like the Asus T100 have become "sleeper hits" for customers looking for devices that are "good enough."
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Though Apple is the market leader in terms of hardware, on the software front IDC declared Android the leader, accounting for about two-thirds of tablets shipped during the three-month span.

 

Android is the leader in tablet software??? What??

 

Has IDC ever used an Android tablet?

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IDC: We exist to make everyone except Apple feel like they are somehow winning.
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Looks like the Kindle Fire is a total bust.

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There is no way in FUK that Samsung sold 11,000,000 tablets in Q1'2014

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Remove OTHERS from the table (those are $50 tablets) and half Samsungs tablets (no way in HELL then even sold 5 million tabs)

 

Apple still has 60% unit share

75% revenue share

85% profit share

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No individual breakout for the mighty Microsoft tablet sales.

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Android is the leader in tablet software??? What??

 

Has IDC ever used an Android tablet?

I think they are discussing which OS had the more unit sales, since those other competitors were selling both Windows and Android tablets, they combine all of the sales by OS (software) and I think that's what he means by when he said "Android is the leader in tablet software?.

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Remove OTHERS from the table (those are $50 tablets) and half Samsungs tablets (no way in HELL then even sold 5 million tabs)

Apple still has 60% unit share
75% revenue share
85% profit share

Right, what the hell are these 'others'? Mattel toy tablets? According to this table these 'others' are making billions and we don't even know who they are?
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Wow only 1,000,000 Kindles.  Talk about utter FAIL.  Those tablets have great screens and internals and are CHEAP.  Yet they can't even sell them at a loss.  What those idiots at Amazon don't realize is ECO-SYSTEM and APPS make a tablet.  Not resolution and non-stop ads.

 

And they want to enter the smartphone space?  Good luck Amazon.

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Right, what the hell are these 'others'? Mattel toy tablets?

 

No, those cheap one's that sell for $60 to $100

 

http://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Android_Tablets/Cheap_Android_Tablets/

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There is no way in FUK that Samsung sold 11,000,000 tablets in Q1'2014

 

I travel all over, and see maybe 1 samsung tablet for every 30 iPads. I pay attention to this stuff. No fucking clue how these #s would even be possible, or who the **** is buying them, and where. 

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Definitely not the year of the tablet anymore. So glad I bought a Retina MBP instead of a iPad Air this year. A reall workhorse. My iPad 3 works just fine at 2 years old. Not much difference between it and the Air in what it can accomplish.
 
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"Though Apple is the market leader in terms of hardware, on the software front IDC declared Android the leader, accounting for about two-thirds of tablets shipped during the three-month span."

 

I can't make sense of this sentence.  :???:

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"Though Apple is the market leader in terms of hardware, on the software front IDC declared Android the leader, accounting for about two-thirds of tablets shipped during the three-month span."

 

I can't make sense of this sentence.  :???:

Apple sold the most tablets out of each of the mfg, but Android sales were higher in the number of units, but there were several companies that were selling Android tablets, so they added up all of the Android based tablets and that was more than Apple by themselves.  Yeah, I think it wasn't written very clearly.  They could have done a better job explaining the situation.

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I think they are discussing which OS had the more unit sales, since those other competitors were selling both Windows and Android tablets, they combine all of the sales by OS (software) and I think that's what he means by when he said "Android is the leader in tablet software?.

 

"Shipments" not sales.

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Definitely not the year of the tablet anymore. So glad I bought a Retina MBP instead of a iPad Air this year. A reall workhorse. My iPad 3 works just fine at 2 years old. Not much difference between it and the Air in what it can accomplish.

 

I don't get it- you were debating betweeen an iPad and a retina MBP? Those choices couldn't be more different. You don't buy an iPad based on "if its year of the tablet", you buy one if it suits your needs. It's kind of messed up that you're glad you bought a MBP based on sales charts. 

 

And yes, the iPad 3 is still fine. That doesn't mean there's "not much difference" between that an an iPad Air. There's actually a masisve difference, as far as hardware performance and size/weight are considered. A much bigger difference than equivalent MBP changes in that timespan. 

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"Shipments" not sales.

I'm sure a lot of those "shipments' are in inventories at various resellers.  :-) but if the mfg sold some to a reseller, then it's the reseller's inventory and the mfg SOLD them to the reseller.   So the mfg claims it as a SOLD item or SHIPPED them as kind of the same thing.  Apple has inventories in resellers' inventories that haven't been sold to the end user.  It's kind of hard to calculate exactly how many have been sold to an end user because these mfg sell direct and to resellers, but I don't think IDC has double checked through the reseller channel, since many are small stores independently owned and do not report unit sale.

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Everyone should go back and read this, for some crow eating:

 

http://readwrite.com/2013/02/04/200-million-workers-want-windows-8-tablets-not-ipads#awesm=~oD1yaaipuo1XvE

You know I think this may be true, since IT worker worry about their jobs and MS is sure thing for employment. If more Ipads get deployed into the corporate market these IT workers will be out of a job since the support requires for iOS is far less then that of an MS product.


Edited by Maestro64 - 5/1/14 at 12:39pm
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No, those cheap one's that sell for $60 to $100

 

http://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Android_Tablets/Cheap_Android_Tablets/

 

My in-laws got one of these for going to visit a time share sales pitch. It did not work, could not connect to the Internet since it said it fail to authenticate, could not figure it out and it now sits in a drawer and they now use an Ipad the kids bought them for Christmas, and all they wanted to do was read their gmail and surf the web and it failed miserably at that 


Edited by Maestro64 - 5/1/14 at 9:19am
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Where is Google's Nexus 7?  Is Google the cheater actually selling Asus tablet as its own?  But Asus market share also declined despite being promoted by Google?

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Android is the leader in tablet software??? What??

 

Has IDC ever used an Android tablet?

It's the classic,  OEM vs OS battlefront.... Same song different verse of:  "Apple is the 3rd leading PC maker, but Microsoft sells 92% of the PC OS licenses...' (2005).

 

The problem with Android is that it's not an 'ecosystem' like Windows was (welcome to the fact that most of your 'computing' is done at the other end of an HTTP/HTTPS  pipe.)  Apple even more than MS back in the day, sells a consumer solution.   Android... well it sells an embedded OS that you may or may not use the built in interfaces or ecosystems.

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You know I think this may be true, since IT worker worry about their jobs and MS is sure thing for employment. If more Ipads get deployed into the corporate market these IT works will be out of a job since the support requires for iOS is far less then that of an MS product.

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"Shipments" not sales.

Estimated shipments not reported shipments or even reported sales!

These numbers are calculated by IDC.

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To be fair to Samsung's tablet units shipped -- they are giving away tablets when you buy a S5, Note 3, subscribe to CableTV deals, etc, etc, etc. It's really not that hard to give away 11M items to the world if you want to.
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And of course once this suspect information came out AAPL dropped after starting the day off on another charge. Will the SEC ever validate this information and take action against these bogus data collectors or will they continue to line their pockets with Samscum cash?

 

As for the "other" group, let's try and be honest about what these really are. They aren't in the same bracket as Apple or even the better Samsung equipment so why count them in the same group?

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I bought a factory refurbished Asus MeMO 7" tablet. It kept freezing up and when wake from sleep, touch screen wouldn't work.

 

I got a replacement and it freezes every 30 minutes.

 

I just wanted something for reading and websurfing. I don't need the power of an iPad (and I want a cheaper tablet with a good screen).

 

May go Kindle Fire, may give up and go for the iPad. However, I have a coworker who loves his Kindle Fire and he's an iPhone user.

 

Depends on your needs. The Kindle Fire has good reviews - when good at what it does.

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so the much hyped Fire is a flop. and the much touted Surface is an outright fail. there should be a claim chowder banquet on the tech websites today feasting on the dozens of glowing predictions that were showered upon them both, but i just can't find it. meanwhile tho this will be reported as more proof Apple is doomed, and great new things are coming from Amazon and MS, just wait.
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You can goose up the numbers to make it look like the market leader, Apple, is the market loser, but you can't outright lie to your shareholders.

 

If IDC's numbers were correct, then I guarantee you, Amazon wouldn't be bleeding money, and Samsung's shares wouldn't be taking a hit on continued declining sales and profit.

 

If IDC were accurate, then Samsung and Amazon would have a much brighter outlook, which they don't right now.

 

I think they are correct, however, in asserting that tastes are shifting away from tablet and toward phablets.  That's why both Amazon and Apple want to move into this area.

 

Just a personal POV... to accept or ignore.

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so the much hyped Fire is a flop. and the much touted Surface is an outright fail. there should be a claim chowder banquet on the tech websites today feasting on the dozens of glowing predictions that were showered upon them both, but i just can't find it. meanwhile tho this will be reported as more proof Apple is doomed, and great new things are coming from Amazon and MS, just wait.


Amazon only sells the Fire (at cost to no profit) to get people to buy apps and stream Prime. Whether that bad hardware actually sells or not is no big thing to them, especially since you can get the same Amazon apps on other Android tablets.

The Fire TV is already a bigger success than the tablets ever were. We will see if their smartphone makes a dent also. But ultimately Amazon is like Google: they don't "need" their hardware to sell or succeed since their primary business is elsewhere. And even Samsung: they are a hardware company, but they could stop making tablets and smartphones tomorrow and still rake in billions. So Apple has competition, but no direct competition instead of the companies that primarily sell mobile devices (and are going out of business one by one because they can't keep up with Apple and Samsung). This includes Microsoft, still primarily a software and services company whose main problem is an unwillingless to just abandon Windows already. (Plus they do make money off hardware with the XBox, a success that they have strangely been unable to leverage.)

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Wow only 1,000,000 Kindles.  Talk about utter FAIL.  Those tablets have great screens and internals and are CHEAP.  Yet they can't even sell them at a loss.  What those idiots at Amazon don't realize is ECO-SYSTEM and APPS make a tablet.  Not resolution and non-stop ads.

And they want to enter the smartphone space?  Good luck Amazon.

The Fire is much better than most other Android tablets. My sister purchased 3 against my advice to get iPads, and I was surprised at how nice they were. Lightyears better than the crappy Nexus 7 I bought and have since replaced with a iPad mini.
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I bought a factory refurbished Asus MeMO 7" tablet. It kept freezing up and when wake from sleep, touch screen wouldn't work.

 

I got a replacement and it freezes every 30 minutes.

 

I just wanted something for reading and websurfing. I don't need the power of an iPad (and I want a cheaper tablet with a good screen).

 

May go Kindle Fire, may give up and go for the iPad. However, I have a coworker who loves his Kindle Fire and he's an iPhone user.

 

Depends on your needs. The Kindle Fire has good reviews - when good at what it does.

 

I bought a Kindle Fire. 

 

Don't do it.  PERIOD.  Trust me don't do it.  The $100 you may save is not worth the heartache you will get owning that POS.  After 6 months my Fire began to creak.  After 12 months I could no longer update the OS so many of my favorite Apps didn't work.  Some apps didn't ever work and so many Apps are not available in the Kindle Store.  Then the battery began to degrade.  By 12 months the battery only lasted 4 hours per charge.

 

Then I got an iPad Air.  You may not think you need the power of the A7 but once you experience it you can't go back.  No more choppy scrolling, no more crashes, video's breaking up, ect.  The build quality is night and day and the App store is miles better. 

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If IDC's numbers were correct, then I guarantee you, Amazon wouldn't be bleeding money, and Samsung's shares wouldn't be taking a hit on continued declining sales and profit.

 

If IDC were accurate, then Samsung and Amazon would have a much brighter outlook, which they don't right now.

 

I think they are correct, however, in asserting that tastes are shifting away from tablet and toward phablets.  That's why both Amazon and Apple want to move into this area.

 

Just a personal POV... to accept or ignore.

 

"You can goose up the numbers to make it look like the market leader, Apple, is the market loser, but you can't outright lie to your shareholders."


That is not their intent. All they are doing is listing tablet shipments, not sales.

 

"If IDC's numbers were correct, then I guarantee you, Amazon wouldn't be bleeding money, and Samsung's shares wouldn't be taking a hit on continued declining sales and profit."

I can guarantee you that Kindle is not the reason why Amazon is "bleeding money" (actually they aren't ... posting small profits isn't "bleeding money"). Samsung's declining sales and profits are mainly due to the lags in the high-end smartphones, which everyone, including Samsung, acknowledges. However, Samsung's profits are nothing to sneeze at, plus their lower sales has as much to do with competition like Xiaomi and Sony selling midrange smartphones in Asia as it does increased sales of Apple products (Apple's large increase in Japan notwithstanding).

 

"I think they are correct, however, in asserting that tastes are shifting away from tablet and toward phablets. That's why both Amazon and Apple want to move into this area."

Thus far, Amazon is only going to sell a 4.7 inch smartphone with a case designed to make the device just a little bit bigger than an I-Phone, and a 4 inch smartphone. They aren't going the phablet route as of yet, likely because they know that a phablet would absolutely rout their Kindle Fire HDX. Amazon's big marketing angle for their phones is going to be the data plan, not the hardware anyway.

 

For the future, I am interested in the growth of Asus and Acer. They are both using Intel chips on tablets that are cheap but not bottom feeders ($125-$200). Asus in particular has a 7 inch tablet running on a 64 bit quad core Intel chip for $150. It will be interesting to see if the market will reward budget tablets with decent hardware. If they do, it will be at Samsung's expense.

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The Fire is much better than most other Android tablets. My sister purchased 3 against my advice to get iPads, and I was surprised at how nice they were. Lightyears better than the crappy Nexus 7 I bought and have since replaced with a iPad mini.

 

The hardware is decent.  But its still made out of cheap azz plastic and creeks after 6 months.  The bezels on it are also very ugly.

 

But the real difference is software and apps.  There are so many apps that are not on the Kindle store its not even funny.  Also Amazon has a bad habbit of not supporting Kindle Fires after 12 months.  I owned mine for 12 months and I no longer could update the OS.  So many of my apps no longer worked. 

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I bought a Kindle Fire. 

 

Don't do it.  PERIOD.  Trust me don't do it.  The $100 you may save is not worth the heartache you will get owning that POS.

Unless you bought the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, I think that the price difference is a bit more than $100!

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No, those cheap one's that sell for $60 to $100

http://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Android_Tablets/Cheap_Android_Tablets/

Holy crap Batman! I have never seen the likes. So this load of junk, in total is being included in statistics regarding Apple iPad sales? That is like discussing Mercedes and BMW cars and including subcompact cars sold in Asia in the overall sales percentages.
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The hardware is decent.  But its still made out of cheap azz plastic and creeks after 6 months.  The bezels on it are also very ugly.

But the real difference is software and apps.  There are so many apps that are not on the Kindle store its not even funny.  Also Amazon has a bad habbit of not supporting Kindle Fires after 12 months.  I owned mine for 12 months and I no longer could update the OS.  So many of my apps no longer worked. 

My sister isn't a heavy user. She uses mostly to read, and she loves the ability to borrow books. I suggested a eInk one but she wanted the ability to browse the internet. So far it's been good for her usage.
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