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Apple will not unveil 'iWatch' or next-gen Apple TV at WWDC - report

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Consumers hoping Apple chief Tim Cook would take advantage of next month's Worldwide Developers Conference to announce the hotly-anticipated "iWatch" or long-awaited Apple TV revamp are likely to be disappointed, as the event will reportedly not include debuts for either of those new products.




Apple's annual developer meeting will instead focus on software, according to Re/code. Specifically, Apple will push Mac OS X 10.10 and iOS 8 to the forefront, similar to what the company has done at WWDC in recent years.

Few details about the next iteration of Apple's now-13-year-old desktop operating system have emerged in the run-up to next month's event, though many expect the venerable software to receive an aesthetic overhaul similar to the one bestowed on iOS 7 by recently-crowned design czar Jony Ive. Also unknown is what name Apple will give OS X 10.10 after last year's switch from big cats to scenic California locations.

iOS 8, meanwhile, is expected to remain visually similar but receive a slew of refinements. Among those believed to be in the offing are new point-of-interest and public transportation options for Maps and a new "Healthbook" app designed to operate as a centralized hub for "quantified self" devices that interact with the iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch.

The 2014 edition of Apple's Worldwide Developers' Conference kicks off at San Francisco's Moscone Center on June 2. AppleInsider will be on hand to provide live coverage from Apple's keynote address.
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So Tim's comment about new products "across 2014" is sounding more like new products in September and October...again.
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iOS 8??? iOS 7 just got stable.

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That's ok. 

 

I think iWatch really needs to hit the ground running.   It should be what current wearables are not.  Stylish yet functional and more ambitious than say a Pebble or Galaxy Gear. 

 

The next Apple TV should support UHD/4K ,  offer an app store and additional functionality. 

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Inevitably, someone will post that iOS 8 should have a "real file system" 1smile.gif

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I couldn't care less about an over-hyped watch - leave that to the Swiss.

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Inevitably, someone will post that iOS 8 should have a "real file system" 1smile.gif

Looks like someone already has.. And it's not a bad implementation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GawtUrlllK8&feature=youtu.be
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So Tim's comment about new products "across 2014" is sounding more like new products in September and October...again.

Patience, grasshopper.  Good things come to those who wait.  Everybody else can buy Samsung ;=)

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OF COURSE!  WWDC is for software mainly!  And, why would they use Developer conference for hardware new releases?

And, new category products, Apple will release in grand way!

 

//Dont tell me iWatch API is for developers.


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The next Apple TV should support UHD/4K ,  offer an app store and additional functionality. 

 

Yeah, Im hoping the next ATV will be a big jump. I always think about Steve's words about having "cracked" TV every time my parents call me to "fix" their television. (Fix = having pressed a button and now they can't figure out how to get back to cable. lol)

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Last year in a holiday memo to employees Cook said:
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We have a lot to look forward to in 2014, including some big plans that we think customers are going to love.

At some point Cook needs to put up or quit the tease. If all we get at WWDC is a redesigned OS X and iOS 8 with incremental updates that's not going to leave a lot of time to unveil these "big plans".
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MacPro

CarPlay

 

thats two already this year

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OF COURSE!  WWDC is for software mainly!  And, why would they use Developer conference for hardware new releases?
And, new category products, Apple will release in grand way!
Apple announced iPhone 4 there, rMBP in 2012 and nMP last year. There is precedent for announcing hardware at WWDC, especially now that Apple doesn't participate in Macworld.
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So Tim's comment about new products "across 2014" is sounding more like new products in September and October...again.

 

MacPro

CarPlay

 

thats two right there

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MacPro
CarPlay

thats two already this year
Haha you serious? Both of those products were announced last year. You can't call the nMP a new product for 2014 because shipping delays of a month or more made delivery spill in to 2014.
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I couldn't care less about an over-hyped watch - leave that to the Swiss.

They are still designing dials and running behind them to sue companies. Not a chance!

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If Apple was going to preview a new product you think they would have leaked it?

 

OF COURSE NOT.

 

No one had any clue about the MacPro at last years WWDC.

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If Apple was going to preview a new product you think they would have leaked it?

 

OF COURSE NOT.

 

No one had any clue about the MacPro at last years WWDC.

May be... Phil say... "Do you want to have a peak at we are working on?"  showing iWatch and says.."Cant innovate anymore my $%^(*&^$%"

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iOS 8??? iOS 7 just got stable.

The only constant is change.

 

The fact that iOS8 won't even show up to consumers till September means you got 5 more months of stability, and 5 more after that if you so choose.   

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Patience, grasshopper.  Good things come to those who wait.  Everybody else can buy Samsung ;=)
You think it makes sense to announce nearly all of your new stuff in September and October? I have a hard time believing it's just coincidence that everything is ready at that time. I hope delays mean what Apple is working on is nothing like what people are expecting and it blows us all away, But in the meantime Apple TV is getting a bit long in the tooth. An update would be welcome even if they're not ready to unveil a much bigger plan. At least get it on par with what Amazon did.
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Yeah, Im hoping the next ATV will be a big jump. I always think about Steve's words about having "cracked" TV every time my parents call me to "fix" their television. (Fix = having pressed a button and now they can't figure out how to get back to cable. lol)

Me too.  Seriously thinking about "Cutting the cord"  after Game of Thrones concludes.   I think i'll be fine with Apple TV, Netflix and Amazon Prime streaming.   I'll watch more sports locally. 

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May be... Phil say... "Do you want to have a peak at we are working on?"  showing iWatch and says.."Cant innovate anymore my $%^(*&^$%"

 

plausible.

 

Given that one can assume the 'really cool stuff' will be built into the iOS 8 release, showing off a wearable (maybe not an iWatch) at WWDC to show how it integrates is how to draw developers to the device (those that aren't currently under the tent.).  That's what WWDC is about... introducing stuff that makes Developers go 'Whoa.... I got to develop on/for that!'

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Guys, thats a software event...do u want Apple to be always a hardware guy like Samscum? Or a software guy like Msft? Apple is both, chill!
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As others have mentioned... Who ever expected new devices at WWDC? The DEVELOPERS conference is about software development. The Mac Pro last year was a big surprise. If there's any surprise this year, it'll be CarPlay, AppleTV, or Siri API announcements.

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Me too.  Seriously thinking about "Cutting the cord"  after Game of Thrones concludes.   I think i'll be fine with Apple TV, Netflix and Amazon Prime streaming.   I'll watch more sports locally. 

me...  I cut and restrung the cord.   partly for business demands.   But, I take the Oatmeal approach to game of thrones... With the thought that the potential of recovering a little streaming revenue may change HBO's content delivery options.

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The only constant is change.

The fact that iOS8 won't even show up to consumers till September means you got 5 more months of stability, and 5 more after that if you so choose.   

I choose stability. But I'm not complaining. I'm a bit saddened by iOS 7's initial performance toll on older devices like the iPhone 4, but Apple seems to have tuned it finally.

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OF COURSE!  WWDC is for software mainly!  And, why would they use Developer conference for hardware new releases?

And, new category products, Apple will release in grand way!

 

//Dont tell me iWatch API is for developers.

Sort of my reaction.

 

Have they ever? despite the annual disappointment articles when they don't. Much like the ever popular "manufacturing constraints".

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It's a DEVELOPERS conference. Not a place to show off new hardware. Why does everyone seem to forget that?
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It seems that there is frustration with the apparent lack of new products throughout 2014 as we were told there would be when made to wait for most of 2013 for the October product fest. I for one miss the Jan or March/April event for iPad but I understand why it got pushed back.... Holiday sales fever!
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As others have mentioned... Who ever expected new devices at WWDC? The DEVELOPERS conference is about software development. The Mac Pro last year was a big surprise. If there's any surprise this year, it'll be CarPlay, AppleTV, or Siri API announcements.
Maybe people were expecting it because outside of CarPlay Apple hasn't announced anything new in the first 6 months of the year.
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Last year in a holiday memo to employees Cook said:
At some point Cook needs to put up or quit the tease. If all we get at WWDC is a redesigned OS X and iOS 8 with incremental updates that's not going to leave a lot of time to unveil these "big plans".

Yeah, Cook needs to put up because there are only 8 months left in the year!!!!

Apple will also not announce an Apple TV set, an iPlane, an iCar, or an iCarly.
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Does this mean there won't be Apple TV SDK?
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Does this mean there won't be Apple TV SDK?

 

Can’t imagine why you’d need one.

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It's a DEVELOPERS conference. Not a place to show off new hardware. Why does everyone seem to forget that?
Apple announced the iPhone 4 at WWDC 2010, rMBP at WWDC 2012, Haswell MBAs and nMP at WWDC 2013. In the past they didn't have to announce hardware at WWDC because it either got announced at Macworld or some other event in Q1.
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Apple announced iPhone 4 there, rMBP in 2012 and nMP last year. There is precedent for announcing hardware at WWDC, especially now that Apple doesn't participate in Macworld.

yes, there is quite a precedent...  However, I think in the consumer class, (iPad, AppleTV, iPhone) only when the OS basically specs it (or defines it... when the iPhone4 was announced, the iOS announcement would have effectively released the information about the device, so it really was a necessary linkage).

 

The developer class (and the 'to be developed for')  hardware has always been announced there.

 

and I do think the nMP was less for the developers, and more for the trade press, basically, driving home that 'can't innovate my @ss' message. 

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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post
Apple announced the iPhone 4 at WWDC 2010, rMBP at WWDC 2012, Haswell MBAs and nMP at WWDC 2013. In the past they didn't have to announce hardware at WWDC because they either got announced at Macworld or some other event in Q1.

 

All the years at which something was announced at MacWorld, something else was announced at WWDC. It’s pretty obvious they’re not following that anymore.

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Yeah, Cook needs to put up because there are only 8 months left in the year!!!!

Apple will also not announce an Apple TV set, an iPlane, an iCar, or an iCarly.
There's not 8 months after WWDC. I suppose Apple will do what they did last year and cram a bunch of stuff into an iPad event in October. But maybe they'll throw people a bone and announce a new Mac mini or 4K display at WWDC. Developers would get excited about that.
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People don't get that a lack of an announcement of the hardware also probably means that they won't be demoing the SDK for that hardware. Which means the iwatch or ATV won't have much functionality when released.
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Can’t imagine why you’d need one.

Not this again...

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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post
Not this again...

 

If he’s CEO of Discovery Channel, that’s one thing. Then he’d need one.

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