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Businesses that license Microsoft Office company-wide are wasting money because few employees actually make significant use of the programs, according to the results of new app usage study.

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According to a report by John E Dunn for PC World, startup firm SoftWatch has been studying how employees use Office apps and concluded that many businesses can save significant resources by switching from Office to cheaper cloud-based applications.

SoftWatch said that in a study of 148,500 employees across 51 international companies that licensed Microsoft Office, 70 percent of employees were only using the productivity software for viewing or light editing. "What the study seems to be telling us is that the age of the all-purpose Office suite based on monolithic licensing has probably had its day because most users simply don't use applications often enough to justify the cost." - John Dunn, SoftWatch.

The majority (68 percent) of the total minutes that employees spent interacting with Office on a daily basis was consumed by Outlook email, which accounted for about a half hour of the average employee's day. Another 8 minutes per day were spent interacting with Excel, five minutes in Word and two minutes in PowerPoint.

Among employees in general, 29 percent either never used Excel and Word or only ever used them to view existing documents, while 70 percent never needed to edit a PowerPoint document.

An additional 62 percent made only light use of Word (leaving 9 percent making more serious use of it), while 53 percent made only light use of Excel (leaving 18 percent who were significant number crunchers).

"What the study seems to be telling us is that the age of the all-purpose Office suite based on monolithic licensing has probably had its day because most users simply don't use applications often enough to justify the cost," Dunn wrote.

Study a pitch for Google Apps



The company behind the study sells its app usage analytics to companies as a way to determine their actual needs for licensing Office, and it partners with resellers of Google Apps, which it recommends as an alternative.

Microsoft appears to be well aware of the fact that its customers have other options, including cloud-based 'Software as a Service' offerings. The company now sells Office 365 as a subscription service that provides a company's employees with flexible access to Office apps via native Windows, Mac, Android or iOS apps, including a new touch-oriented version of its Office apps tailored specifically for, and currently exclusively for, Apple's iPad.

Microsoft's Office 365 subscription covers the unrestricted use of those apps, while users with only casual needs for viewing documents can download Microsoft's new iPad apps for free, with no other licensing required.

Still, the idea that SoftWatch is establishing a business around the idea of evaluating employee use of apps that were once considered "required for business," and that it is in general recommending that users ditch Office to save money, appears to reflect an enormous shift from the status quo, on parallel with the "Bring Your Own Device" trend that forever changed the amount of control that centralized IT Management dictated over the productivity tools employees used.

Old news in the Post-PC market



Outside of workers tied to the conventional PC desktop office environment, mobile users (and conventional office users making any use of mobile devices) have decisively gravitated to Apple's iOS platform, in the form of iPhones and iPads.

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For the most recent winter quarter, enterprise Mobile Device Management vendor Good Technologies reported in February that 73 percent of all mobile devices its clients were using were iOS devices.

Among tablets, the ratio of iPads was even higher, now claiming a 91.4 percent share of all business tablets. Apple's share of tablets has remained sky high ever since the iPad was first released in 2010, meaning that enterprise users have been standardizing on iPads for over four years now.

As Microsoft delayed in releasing a native edition of Office for iPad, enterprise and education users have migrated to apps that were available for the popular tablet, including the iWork productivity suite that Apple launched alongside the original iPad in 2010.



A study published last year by Citrix indicated that Apple's Numbers and Pages were among the top enterprise apps, with Numbers being fourth on the list, and Pages coming in behind tenth place iBooks. The other office suites, Docs2Go and QuickOffice, ranked behind Apple's iWork.

Citrix is used to provide mobile access to Windows desktops, meaning that Citrix users who were installing and using Numbers and Pages were doing so because they preferred working in local, native apps.

Productivity apps for iPad



A year later, Microsoft has launched its Excel, PowerPoint and Word titles on iPad, and appears to be seeing significant adoption among iOS users, judging by the popularity of Office titles in the App Store.

However, the company--which once ruled business productivity software--now faces stiff competition from a variety of free apps. The top free iPad productivity app is currently Notability, a clever word processing app (below) that allows users to type notes or sketch ideas in ink while recording audio; the app then connects the playback point of the audio with the notes as you take them, allowing you to review what was being said as you took your notes.

Notability


Behind Notability is Google Docs, followed by #3 Word, and Apple's Pages at #8. For spreadsheets, Google Sheets is the fourth most popular free productivity iPad app, followed by Excel at #5 and Numbers at #9. Microsoft Powerpoint is currently at #6, followed by Apple's Keynote at #10.

In addition to a series of innovative new independent productivity apps, Apple, Google and Microsoft have all recently brought to market enhanced new versions of their productivity suites.

Each has also enthusiastically adopted Apple's iOS App Store software model in delivering rapid updates at low cost; creating easy to use apps with simple interfaces that don't require extensive user training; and making extensive use of modern app features such as automatic saves, collaborative editing and cloud-based storage.
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Well... I obviously didn't get the memo. Just bought Office 2013 (for Windows) to *ahem* run on my Windows 8.1 virtual machine... on my mac...

Don't ask... just wanted to get it. It's work related... 1smile.gif However, may very well be my last Windows Office pack I'll buy.

I refuse to subscribe to Office365. I shouldn't have to pay for the "privilege" to continuously use it.
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Hmmm.... Microsoft's two cash cows, Windows and Office are both sick and dying at the same time. Meanwhile their server business is being battered by strong competition. Microsoft's strong lock on the enterprise customer has weakened considerably.

This is not the end for Microsoft, but it looks like the beginning of the end.
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I just picked up Notability for my iDevices. Looks very good, and it's free.
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My company has 200 employees and we all use Google Apps.
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Office 365 student pricing is amazing. It cost me £59.99 for a 4 year (2 device) licence. I have it activated on Windows and OS X on my one MacBook. It would cost me £109.99 just for a single licence version of Office:Mac.
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This survey obviously didn't include my company. Where I work everyone uses Excel and PowerPoint extensively.
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That chart: Adobe Reader needs to die. It's the slowest and most unstable piece of software I've ever been forced to use. The fact that some PDFs require Adobe Reader to be opened properly is so sad.
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My company has 200 employees and we all use Google Apps.
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Where I work everyone uses Excel and PowerPoint extensively.

Makes sense. Too confusing to mix and match like the article suggests. From an IT perspective just stick to one platform. It doesn't really matter which one. You could even deploy all Macs and use iWork.

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My current company is very Windows-centric to where the Intranet websites are all ASP.Net and only properly render in IE. My last job you can use any OS easily for development -- including CentOS.
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My company has 200 employees and we all use Google Apps.


No snark intended here -- really. But management/IT at your company is okay with Google having access to your internal corporate documents? To me (and many, many large corporations), that's craziness. Please don't think for a minute that documents created and edited on google apps are private. Often times, contracts have stipulations such as "for your eyes only" or similar. There are a lot of things to consider, and frankly, many companies really haven't thought things through carefully. Or they are making decisions based on convenience (laziness) and naivety.

Sure, for personal stuff it's really irrelevant, do whatever you want, but business documents and communication should always be local and fully under the control of management. Or at least that option needs to be available. Additionally, managing a dual-system is a really slippery slope, because people get used to doing their work online and it's easy to forget what kind of documents contain information that's highly confidential, or documents morph into something confidential over time.

I have no idea what your company does, maybe everything is an open book. Just remember, that Includes everyone's salary, strategic plans, contracts, etc...
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Folks if we all just keep trying we can wish Microsoft into the cornfield. 22 million subscribers to Office 365 proves that people want to use this software. Microsoft (and Cisco) are the DNA of corporate computing. Apple (whose products I own) isn't. IT depends upon Microsoft products because management and support tools are built into the products(including Office).
One last point, there is no such thing as the "post PC era". Just a shift to smaller and more efficient devices. A computer performs these basic tasks: input, process, output whether in the form of a desktop computer or a smart phone.
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I tend to agree with this.  Most IT departments have a standard install set (or images) on all machines.  Regardless if and how often the tools will get used by each specific employee.  This allows various departments to compose documents in a format that they know everyone can read.  How often someone is required to compose depends on their role.  Which is a "don't care" form an IT point of view.  For most IT departments, I think it would create too much headache to try to determine who actually needs Office composition tools vs Read-Only tools to save some dollars here to justify custom installs.

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That chart: Adobe Reader needs to die. It's the slowest and most unstable piece of software I've ever been forced to use. The fact that some PDFs require Adobe Reader to be opened properly is so sad.

Really? I have never used Reader since all the managers at our company have the full Acrobat Pro, but I have never had any issues with it. We use the Pro features extensively to extract/insert pages, annotations, lock documents, print production work flow, etc. It is really an indispensable tool for us. Never once had it crash or hang.

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Really? I have never used Reader since all the managers at our company have the full Acrobat Pro, but I have never had any issues with it. We use the Pro features extensively to extract/insert pages, annotations, lock documents, print production work flow, etc. It is really an indispensable tool for us. Never once had it crash or hang.

And on the Mac all of that is free with Preview.
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Well they're all missing out because MS Excel is the greatest application ever written.
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And on the Mac all of that is free with Preview.

Well to be fair I didn't want to get too verbose but I'm sure Acrobat does a lot more than Preview. I often use Acrobat to create forms which actually calculate formulas from the input fields using a script. I'm sure Preview is fine for casual use but I wouldn't put it in the same professional category as Acrobat.

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Really? I have never used Reader since all the managers at our company have the full Acrobat Pro, but I have never had any issues with it. We use the Pro features extensively to extract/insert pages, annotations, lock documents, print production work flow, etc. It is really an indispensable tool for us. Never once had it crash or hang.
It's more slow than unstable, but the difference between Preview and Reader on a Mac is ridiculous. Scrolling documents with Reader in Safari is practically impossible to control. But again, the worst part is that so many documents won't display all their contents unless you have Reader or other Adobe software. It's just the PDF version of the Flash nightmare.

(and remember I'm comparing Preview to Reader, not Acrobat. However, I do know that Acrobat is still very crappy on Macs)
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Hmmm.... Microsoft's two cash cows, Windows and Office are both sick and dying at the same time.

 

No. They're not.

 

Windows has about 91% desktop market share (source). That's about the same as two years ago. Is that what you call 'dying'? Windows 8 may not have taken off as MS would have expected, but Windows still has an absolute stranglehold in the desktop market.

 

Likewise, Office still has a stranglehold in the corporate environment. Web-based alternatives like Google Apps or competing products like iWork  may be gaining in popularity among consumers, but it is the corporate space where the money is made.

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 However, I do know that Acrobat is still very crappy on Macs)

Now that you mention it, I guess I do use Reader plugin in Safari. I've never experienced any issues with it that I can recall. As far as Acrobat Pro being crappy on Macs, I guess we must have different definitions of crappy. I have absolutely no complaints. It works flawlessly in my opinion. To me, it sounds like an Adobe hate issue or perhaps a problem with your computer.

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Nonsense. Office is iniquitous. Even if you're not using all of Office or none at all, you're using a suite that touts a degree of Office File Compatibility.
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This was a really good article. I do agree that what Blah64 said, I don't find Google App secure or private enough for business. I primarily use iWork at work. As far as Keynote presentations, I'm mostly just opening and viewing and not doing too much creating on my own. Although from time to time I do have to create Keynotes. I use Pages a lot and I have to use Numbers for sorting through large databases of clients. Prior to this I used Google Docs for small personal things. I haven't used Microsoft Office in probably 8 years.
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(and remember I'm comparing Preview to Reader, not Acrobat. However, I do know that Acrobat is still very crappy on Macs)

what would be the need to use Acrobat Pro on a Mac?  I'm not trying to set you up here. I honestly, don't know. I thought Acrobat Pro's whole reason for existing was to produce PDF documents.  With Mac you just select "print to PDF" to accomplish that goal.   What am I missing??

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Well... I obviously didn't get the memo. Just bought Office 2013 (for Windows) to *ahem* run on my Windows 8.1 virtual machine... on my mac...

Don't ask... just wanted to get it. It's work related... 1smile.gif However, may very well be my last Windows Office pack I'll buy.

I refuse to subscribe to Office365. I shouldn't have to pay for the "privilege" to continuously use it.

Why did you opt to use Office on a Windows 8.1 virtual machine on a Mac vs just getting Office for Mac and avoiding the need for Windows 8.1? I'm curious.
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Hmmm.... Microsoft's two cash cows, Windows and Office are both sick and dying at the same time.

 

No. They're not.

 

Windows has about 91% desktop market share (source). That's about the same as two years ago. Is that what you call 'dying'? Windows 8 may not have taken off as MS would have expected, but Windows still has an absolute stranglehold in the desktop market.

 

Likewise, Office still has a stranglehold in the corporate environment. Web-based alternatives like Google Apps or competing products like iWork  may be gaining in popularity among consumers, but it is the corporate space where the money is made.

Its been my observation that many companies are not using that latest version of Office and are in no hurry because they can not justify a need to do so.  Same thing with Windows but to a lesser extent due to new HW requirements.   Microsoft needs to figure out how to change that.

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No. They're not.

Windows has about 91% desktop market share (source). That's about the same as two years ago. Is that what you call 'dying'? Windows 8 may not have taken off as MS would have expected, but Windows still has an absolute stranglehold in the desktop market.

Likewise, Office still has a stranglehold in the corporate environment. Web-based alternatives like Google Apps or competing products like iWork  may be gaining in popularity among consumers, but it is the corporate space where the money is made.

Thanks for providing a source but you're discounting the role of non-traditional "PCs". Marketshare could also mean they can sell 91 Windows licenses out of a 100 desktop PC sales but there are only 1,000 PCs being sold per week and 10,000,000 post-PC devices then that market is effectively useless to them.

"Worldwide PC shipments totaled 76.3 million units in the first quarter of 2013 (1Q13), down -13.9% compared to the same quarter in 2012 and worse than the forecast decline of -7.7%, according to the International Data Corporation (IDC) Worldwide Quarterly PC Tracker. The extent of the year-on-year contraction marked the worst quarter since IDC began tracking the PC market quarterly in 1994. The results also marked the fourth consecutive quarter of year-on-year shipment declines."



Their new CEO looks like he's well aware that MS needs to shift their focus. I suspect MS will eventually settle on enterprise and backend services like IBM, a still very successful company.

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what would be the need to use Acrobat Pro on a Mac?  I'm not trying to set you up here. I honestly, don't know. I thought Acrobat Pro's whole reason for existing was to produce PDF documents.  With Mac you just select "print to PDF" to accomplish that goal.   What am I missing??

There is a lot more to Acrobat than you realize. It is a professional application on the same level and a complement to the Adobe CC suite. When you just print to PDF from your Mac you are using the open source specifications from 2008. If you don't have Acrobat Pro, you don't see all the items in the "Tools" and "Advanced" tabs with features that are constantly being added and refined.

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there is a troubling trend in that software is continued to be devaluated. First through the Open Source movement, then through introduction of relatively low priced App store models and free Ad based models and social networks.  Companies which make their money purely from SW products (w/o adds) are finding it hard to convince people to pay a premium for their offerings and make compelling updated versions worthy of upgrade.   Many are going to a forced subscription models like Adobe and Microsoft because of this upgrade issue.    I'm not sure it will be successful based on the backlash I have observed from users.   I fear that pure SW companies as we know it are in trouble.  


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what would be the need to use Acrobat Pro on a Mac?  I'm not trying to set you up here. I honestly, don't know. I thought Acrobat Pro's whole reason for existing was to produce PDF documents.  With Mac you just select "print to PDF" to accomplish that goal.   What am I missing??

There is a lot more to Acrobat than you realize. It is a professional application on the same level and a complement to the Adobe CC suite. When you just print to PDF from your Mac you are using the open source specifications from 2008. If you don't have Acrobat Pro, you don't see all the items in the "Tools" and "Advanced" tabs with features that are constantly being added and refined.

"There is a lot more to Acrobat than you realize."  Lol. You are stating what I already know. That is why I asked.  Unforunately, your response still leaves things as mystery to me.

 

As for producing PDF which is compatible to standard back from 2008.  I am not sure how that is bad thing. I thought the whole point of producing PDF is because it is "Portable" Document Format.   Why would we want to send people a new PDF formatted document which they can not read? I might as well send them MS Word version X.Y.Z formatted documents which they can not open with a previous version A.B.C. 

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"There is a lot more to Acrobat than you realize."  Lol. You are stating what I already know. That is why I asked.  Unforunately, your response still leaves things as mystery to me.

 

As for producing PDF which is compatible to standard back from 2008.  I am not sure how that is bad thing. I thought the whole point of producing PDF is because it is "Portable" Document Format.   Why would we want to send people a new PDF formatted document which they can not read? I might as well send them MS Word version X.Y.Z formatted documents which they can not open with a previous version A.B.C. 

It is not a matter of sending a document that they can't read, it is more about manipulating the document before you send it. Also validating it. making editable forms, chapters and table of contents, properly preparing high resolution for printing, making them compatible with automated work flows, making dynamic documents with scripting, password protecting documents, making them non-prinatable or unable to copy text, extract, or modify, assign security certificates, adding multimedia or accessibility options on, and on, and on. Like I said it is professional software for professionals. If you don't need those sorts of tools then it is not for you.

 

As far as it being a Portable Document Format, in Acrobat you can choose which version of compatibility you want to save it as but not all features are compatible with third party applications. They are however all supposed to be compatible with the latest version of Reader which is always free, so yes it is portable but not necessarily completely with Preview or Chrome.


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I probably fall into the reports category of very light use of Office apps other than outlook. But:

1. Some of the excel files im looking at use features not in alternative web based apps
2. Office is really fast and easy with things like smart objects and screen shot buttons. So the 20 mins in a month I use word for is very efficient
3. Like most people I know Office. If i spent 2 hours learning something new. The cost of non production work for that time would be greater than the license cost for the year for Office. That basically makes Office the cheapest option.
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reading more about PDF changes between Mac OS X "print to PDF" generated version 1.3 and latest Adobe Pro generated version 1.7, looks like Mac "print to PDF" users are missing out on further encryption algorithm options, embedding JPEG2000, XML forms, 3D models, Javascript and Flash. 

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"There is a lot more to Acrobat than you realize."  Lol. You are stating what I already know. That is why I asked.  Unforunately, your response still leaves things as mystery to me.

 

As for producing PDF which is compatible to standard back from 2008.  I am not sure how that is bad thing. I thought the whole point of producing PDF is because it is "Portable" Document Format.   Why would we want to send people a new PDF formatted document which they can not read? I might as well send them MS Word version X.Y.Z formatted documents which they can not open with a previous version A.B.C. 

It is not a matter of sending a document that they can't read, it is more about manipulating the document before you send it. Also validating it. making editable forms, properly preparing high resolution for printing, making them compatible with automated work flows, making dynamic documents with scripting, password protecting documents, making them non-prinatable or unable to copy text, extract, or modify, assign security certificates, adding multimedia or accessibility options on, and on, and on. Like I said it is professional software for professionals. If you don't need those sorts of tools then it is not for you.

this was helpful, thanks.

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3. Like most people I know Office. If i spent 2 hours learning something new. The cost of non production work for that time would be greater than the license cost for the year for Office. That basically makes Office the cheapest option.

this last point is very good.   Also a reason not to upgrade to a new version of Office or Windows for some people. 

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there is a troubling trend in that software is continued to be devaluated. First through the Open Source movement, then through introduction of relatively low priced App store models and free Ad based models and social networks.  Companies which make their money purely from SW products (w/o adds) are finding it hard to convince people to pay a premium for their offerings and make compelling updated versions worthy of upgrade.   Many are going to a forced subscription models like Adobe and Microsoft because of this upgrade issue.    I'm not sure it will be successful based on the backlash I have observed from users.   I fear that pure SW companies as we know it are in trouble.  


I only use basic functionality of word processing programs and spreadsheets. Libreoffice works fine for me on my Mac and GNU/Linux boxes. I even use their presentation software sometimes. I'm not trying to impress people with moving colorful spinning objects when I give presentations. I show images and text and go from page to page with information. If I want to embed a video it can be done.

 

Exactly how much better is Microsux Word compared to some of the free or even low cost word processors out there? How specialized can a text document creator really be? I remember typewriters. They seemed to create wonderful text documents that communicated messages very well. With LibreOffice I can create documents that only a print shop could create many years ago. Computers today can share documents and allow contributions from many people. I get all of that with the Libreoffice program. Prior to that I used OpenOffice. I'm experimenting with Google Drive and it seems to work well and it gives me numerous fonts from which to choose.

 

Maybe the reason Microsux Office is continuing to remain is that the alternatives really aren't known or advertised to corporations.

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there is a troubling trend in that software is continued to be devaluated. First through the Open Source movement, then through introduction of relatively low priced App store models and free Ad based models and social networks.  Companies which make their money purely from SW products (w/o adds) are finding it hard to convince people to pay a premium for their offerings and make compelling updated versions worthy of upgrade.   Many are going to a forced subscription models like Adobe and Microsoft because of this upgrade issue.    I'm not sure it will be successful based on the backlash I have observed from users.   I fear that pure SW companies as we know it are in trouble.  


I only use basic functionality of word processing programs and spreadsheets. Libreoffice works fine for me on my Mac and GNU/Linux boxes. I even use their presentation software sometimes. I'm not trying to impress people with moving colorful spinning objects when I give presentations. I show images and text and go from page to page with information. If I want to embed a video it can be done.

 

Exactly how much better is Microsux Word compared to some of the free or even low cost word processors out there? How specialized can a text document creator really be? I remember typewriters. They seemed to create wonderful text documents that communicated messages very well. With LibreOffice I can create documents that only a print shop could create many years ago. Computers today can share documents and allow contributions from many people. I get all of that with the Libreoffice program. Prior to that I used OpenOffice. I'm experimenting with Google Drive and it seems to work well and it gives me numerous fonts from which to choose.

 

Maybe the reason Microsux Office is continuing to remain is that the alternatives really aren't known or advertised to corporations.

I think for people in your position who do not depend on a large collaborative effort with others using Microsoft Office, I think you can pretty much use anything you want.  Consider yourself one of the luck ones. Congrats.

 

I bet there are even people on this Forum that will tell you they get along just fine with LaTex and Emacs on Linux for all sort of Office tasks.  If not on here, then surely you will run into these people at Open Source conferences.

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That chart: Adobe Reader needs to die. It's the slowest and most unstable piece of software I've ever been forced to use. The fact that some PDFs require Adobe Reader to be opened properly is so sad.

Yup. Its dosgsting how it can't even scroll simple PDFs smoothly. Choppy as ****, always. Preview is night and day. Such a bloated, insecure piece of shit software.
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I only use basic functionality of word processing programs and spreadsheets. Libreoffice works fine for me on my Mac and GNU/Linux boxes. I even use their presentation software sometimes. I'm not trying to impress people with moving colorful spinning objects when I give presentations. I show images and text and go from page to page with information. If I want to embed a video it can be done.

 

Exactly how much better is Microsux Word compared to some of the free or even low cost word processors out there? How specialized can a text document creator really be? I remember typewriters. They seemed to create wonderful text documents that communicated messages very well. With LibreOffice I can create documents that only a print shop could create many years ago. Computers today can share documents and allow contributions from many people. I get all of that with the Libreoffice program. Prior to that I used OpenOffice. I'm experimenting with Google Drive and it seems to work well and it gives me numerous fonts from which to choose.

 

Maybe the reason Microsux Office is continuing to remain is that the alternatives really aren't known or advertised to corporations.

 

Personally I dislike Open/LibreOffice because it is slow, clunky, ugly and just as incompatible to MS Office documents as iWork is. But that's a matter of opinion / taste.

 

The point with big businesses is just another one and it has nothing to do with advertising, etc. MS Office has been around for a long time now, it established itself amongst businesses and when corporations buy tens of thousands of licenses of Windows and Office they actually get quite good deals. But not even that is the point, the point is really, that corporations want support. They want to be able to call a representative, they want to be able to get consultants on site and they want to be able to get those nice little (expensive) booklets about what has changed for their employees when deploying a new version.

 

This is why corporations go for paid solutions, because they want a whole package. For exactly the same reason corporations deploy Red Hat instead of some free distribution, deploy IBM systems, databases, application servers over their free alternatives, etc. It's all about first and third party support and ecosystems.

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Choppy as ****, always. Preview is night and day. Such a bloated, insecure piece of shit software.

To be fair, if you are comparing reading a pdf file in Safari while downloading it from the web, to reading the same pdf file in Preview when it is already on your hard drive, there are going to be differences. To take the Internet out of the equation, try reading a pdf file that is on your computer by draging it into your Safari window. I think you will notice quite a difference in how smoothly it scrolls.

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