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Apple seems to have been deliberate in their legal suits. It could be, and hope, that the suits are proceeding according to plan and getting their ducks in line to go after Google and Schmidt in the future.
Here's what Steve Jobs said at Macworld 1997:

"We have to let go of a few things here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose."

I think we could replace Microsoft with Google in that quote right now. Honestly I think the last thing Cook wants or needs is a protracted legal fight with Google. They certainly wouldn't win that battle from a PR standpoint (media and techies love Google) and that could chip away at their brand reputation. Last thing Apple needs is for the public to think they're litigating instead of innovating.
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They can't, that's how counsel wants it. I had jury duty last year for a (I kid you not) a patent case. When they found out I had a Bachelors in computer science along with my BS in accounting & MBA both sides wanted me gone. Strange because it dealt with financial and technical issues.

That truly sucks. Which let's you know the damn system is corrupt and broken. They don't want justice.
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**** off you racist POS.

I have to agree. No reason for that.
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There's no way you're an Apple fan. You're just some racist troll acting as one to build more hate.

Possibly, but a quick review of his posting history doesn't appear to support the conclusion. Either way, it's inappropriate.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

Here's what Steve Jobs said at Macworld 1997:

"We have to let go of a few things here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose."

I think we could replace Microsoft with Google in that quote right now. Honestly I think the last thing Cook wants or needs is a protracted legal fight with Google. They certainly wouldn't win that battle from a PR standpoint (media and techies love Google) and that could chip away at their brand reputation. Last thing Apple needs is for the public to think they're litigating instead of innovating.

Oh really? Another quote from Steve: "We didn't enter the search business, they entered the phone business. Google wants to kill the iPhone - we won't let them."

And stop with the "innovate don't litigate" meme. It's a position popular with copyists who are just waiting for Apple to reveal the next big thing for them to copy.

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I know I am an insignificant drop in the bucket but I refuse to purchase anything from Samscum. Interesting article about them in Vanity Fair 'Smartphone Wars'. Seems like things are going according to plan where they are concerned. Best Apple can do is keep them from seeing their tech too early. According to this article in VF stealing is in Samsung's DNA. It amazes me how popular they are in the media. I'm sure Apple will remain the bad guy in all this while most rally behind the 'poor underdog'. Sad really sad.
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Here's what Steve Jobs said at Macworld 1997:

"We have to let go of a few things here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose."

I think we could replace Microsoft with Google in that quote right now. Honestly I think the last thing Cook wants or needs is a protracted legal fight with Google. They certainly wouldn't win that battle from a PR standpoint (media and techies love Google) and that could chip away at their brand reputation. Last thing Apple needs is for the public to think they're litigating instead of innovating.


Only the likes of YOU would think that Apple is litigating instead of innovating.  Apple needs to stand for what's right and that's to stop the copycats. It's plain and simple.  Don't make Apple out to be a bad guy here.

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Can't tell if Apple][ or Tallest Skil.  The racist remark suggests Apple][ but the desire to attack South Korea with a nuclear weapon suggests Tallest Skil.


I doubt either would make a separate trolling account or post that statement.

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Oh really? Another quote from Steve: "We didn't enter the search business, they entered the phone business. Google wants to kill the iPhone - we won't let them."

And stop with the "innovate don't litigate" meme. It's a position popular with copyists who are just waiting for Apple to reveal the next big thing for them to copy.
Hey, I don't think that but that's how the anti-Apple media will portray it (some already are) and when that's the media meme day in and day out people start to believe it.
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Only the likes of YOU would think that Apple is litigating instead of innovating.  Apple needs to stand for what's right and that's to stop the copycats. It's plain and simple.  Don't make Apple out to be a bad guy here.
Hey, I don't think that but that's how the anti-Apple media will portray it (some already are) and when that's the media meme day in and day out people start to believe it. Apple got $119M when they were asking for $2B. How long does Apple have to keep suing before they prove their point? Or when people start wondering if it's worth it when the legal fees are almost as much as the damages they are awarded? Twice now a jury found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple's patents. Apple's never going to be able to sue them out of business. And Apple doesn't seem to be winning the PR war. What's the point of more lawsuits? The more Apple sues, the more the media will make them out to be the bad guys.
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The miscreant that Samsung is just goes beyond bottom dwellers.  They truly have zero ethics.  There's a great piece on Vanity Fair about the practices that Samsung uses not only with Apple, but with other competitors to essentially rob their IP, make a bundle of money on it, and leave the original companies that owned the patent in dire financial needs so to settle.  Shameful behavior.  Reading this article made me even more committed to never, ever directly do business with Samsung.  Absolutel piece of sh!t company.

http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war

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I got one more. Assistive touch! Sasmungs also ripped that off. My one friend has an s4 and it has this thing under accessibility and it's like Assistive touch
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What a joke this jury system is !




http://flic.kr/p/ndWNKe

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Nope, this is Apple and Samsung

 

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Here's what Steve Jobs said at Macworld 1997:

"We have to let go of a few things here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose."

I think we could replace Microsoft with Google in that quote right now. Honestly I think the last thing Cook wants or needs is a protracted legal fight with Google. They certainly wouldn't win that battle from a PR standpoint (media and techies love Google) and that could chip away at their brand reputation. Last thing Apple needs is for the public to think they're litigating instead of innovating.


Only the likes of YOU would think that Apple is litigating instead of innovating.  Apple needs to stand for what's right and that's to stop the copycats. It's plain and simple.  Don't make Apple out to be a bad guy here.

Almost everyone here will agree that Apple are not the bad guy but most people here are all ready predisposed to think of Apple that way. In the wider world if the innovate don't litigate meme becomes entrenched and becomes the predominant view then Apple will have to spend time, money etc to try and rectify it. You can look at the ratner group to see what can happen when people believe in the wrong message (it's an extreme example and I don't believe it would ever get that far).
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I can't believe anyone would buy a GS5 with its horrible software. Check out the video below.

http://youtu.be/q0G9yasVKyo
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"The facts did not sway the jury's final decision, however."

The most honest answer I have ever read concerning a "justice" system decision. I am amazed at how little the facts factor into court decisions these days. At least someone was honest enough to say it.

As for the verdict this was a farce. These twelve people pretty much gutted the patent system. I may, strongly, think that the IP system in this country needs a major overhaul, but it isn't a jury's job to do so, and finding "willful" patent infringement and then slapping Samsung with what amounts to a speeding ticket is a travesty of justice. Because, this measly fine won't stop Samsung from continuing to steal IP anymore than speeding tickets stop speeding.
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If Apple keeps suing at some point they're going to become the bad guy in the eyes of the public. The media is incredibly anti-Apple and eventually all that negative press impacts public perception.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/apple-v-samsung-jury-foreman-says-the-consumer-is-the-loser/
"Ultimately, the consumer is the loser in all this," foreman Thomas Dunham, a retired IBM supervisor, told the San Jose Mercury News. "I'd like to see them find a way to settle. I hope this (verdict) in some way helps shape that future."

 

If he had really been concerned with forcing a settlement then he should have found Samsung guilty of willfull infringement on all patents and awarded Apple $6.6 billion in damages. That is about the only thing that will make Samsung make an honest settlement offer. As it is he is simply contributing to the problem and leading to a future where the consumer really loses.

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"The facts did not sway the jury's final decision, however."

The most honest answer I have ever read concerning a "justice" system decision. I am amazed at how little the facts factor into court decisions these days. At least someone was honest enough to say it.

As for the verdict this was a farce. These twelve people pretty much gutted the patent system. I may, strongly, think that the IP system in this country needs a major overhaul, but it isn't a jury's job to do so, and finding "willful" patent infringement and then slapping Samsung with what amounts to a speeding ticket is a travesty of justice. Because, this measly fine won't stop Samsung from continuing to steal IP anymore than speeding tickets stop speeding.

Samsung successfully confused the jurors with a massive amount of unrelated detail. Strategically speaking, their lawyers did the "right" thing for their client.
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"As for Google's involvement in the case, both Dunham and another juror, Pamela Sage, said revelations regarding Internet giant's promise to pay for certain legal fees were "interesting." The facts did not sway the jury's final decision, however."


Does this mean we go after google next?

First, not sure why an exec from IBM would find the fact that Google agreed to indemnify Samsung if they were sued and lost for using Android this is standard industry practices these days. If one company uses another companies IP and is sued then the owner of that IP would be expected to indemnify the user of the IP. I see this all the time in contracts. This is nothing unusual these day. Since Samsung lost now then Google will have to pay all of Samsung costs not only what is paid out to Apple.

 

Yes, now that Apple has won this case they now can go after ever single company using Android and make them pay a licensing fee and assuming those companies also have an indemnification clause in their agreement Google will have to pay those costs as well. Apple does not have to go after google directly and actually it make no sense since Google may zero $ off the IP so there is no money to collect directly off Google. This is why Apple went after all the phone manufacturers.


Edited by Maestro64 - 5/6/14 at 11:51am
post #59 of 95

All this and their phones are still just shit.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0G9yasVKyo

 

Useful video so that next time someone accuses you of not having seen a working S5, you can say you have... and it's still terrible.

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Unrelated to the article:

About a 1/4 of the time that I open an AI article on my iPhone it redirects my phone to the App Store and some game comes up. Presumably for me to buy. Is this some new advertising tactic? Does AI know this is going on? It's very intrusive and I'm thinking that it's a bit too much.
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You know that old expression, Garbage In, Garbage Out? Here we have a perfect example of dumb jurors deliberating, dumb verdict being reached. This goes for that mindless twit of a judge in this case, who cannot make up her mind which way she wants to think, and who doesn't have the spine to impose sanctions on Samsung, even after catching them lying to the court.

 

This is utter garbage.

I believe judge Koh, being S. Korean, must be getting some kind of kickback from Samsung in Korea. She may have been granting Apple some wins, but at the same time she's been slashing their numbers to save Samsung hundreds of million dollars, if not over a billion so far.

 

It also seems like she's been giving Samsung wins for ambiguous and irrelevant patents, such as the one against FaceTime, but struggles to give Apple a win on modern straight-to-the-point patents.

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Unrelated to the article:

About a 1/4 of the time that I open an AI article on my iPhone it redirects my phone to the App Store and some game comes up. Presumably for me to buy. Is this some new advertising tactic? Does AI know this is going on? It's very intrusive and I'm thinking that it's a bit too much.


Yes, same thing happens to me, here and on other websites.

Extremely annoying.

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Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post

the desire to attack South Korea with a nuclear weapon suggests Tallest Skil.

 

Keep your libel to yourself.

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post #64 of 95
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The miscreant that Samsung is just goes beyond bottom dwellers.  They truly have zero ethics.  There's a great piece on Vanity Fair about the practices that Samsung uses not only with Apple, but with other competitors to essentially rob their IP, make a bundle of money on it, and leave the original companies that owned the patent in dire financial needs so to settle.  Shameful behavior.  Reading this article made me even more committed to never, ever directly do business with Samsung.  Absolutel piece of sh!t company.

http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war

 

From the Vanity Fair article:

 

...Sam Baxter, a patent lawyer who once handled a case for Samsung. “I represented [the Swedish telecommunications company] Ericsson, and they couldn’t lie if their lives depended on it, and I represented Samsung and they couldn’t tell the truth if their lives depended on it.”

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Almost everyone here will agree that Apple are not the bad guy but most people here are all ready predisposed to think of Apple that way. In the wider world if the innovate don't litigate meme becomes entrenched and becomes the predominant view then Apple will have to spend time, money etc to try and rectify it. You can look at the ratner group to see what can happen when people believe in the wrong message (it's an extreme example and I don't believe it would ever get that far).

What kind of defeatist, tuck-your-tail-between-your-legs and run kind of BS are you peddling? Are you arguing it is more cost effective to let Samsung and the copyists control the debate and that Apple should give up now, shut up and innovate more things for Samsung to copy? That Apple has no intellectual property rights to defend because you want the iPhone signature qualities in your Android clones and that Samsung shouldn't have to pay a damn license fee for it? Give me a break.

Who will stand up for Apple's IP rights if Apple won't? It is their imperative to put their story out there, to let the world know their side, not, as you so unwisely decree, go back and innovate for other companies.

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I believe judge Koh, being S. Korean, must be getting some kind of kickback from Samsung in Korea. She may have been granting Apple some wins, but at the same time she's been slashing their numbers to save Samsung hundreds of million dollars, if not over a billion so far.

That would be a very serious breach of ethics for any judge, and if Apple believed such a thing were true, they would not be silent about it. Got any proof?

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What kind of defeatist, tuck-your-tail-between-your-legs and run kind of BS are you peddling? Are you arguing it is more cost effective to let Samsung and the copyists control the debate and that Apple should give up now, shut up and innovate more things for Samsung to copy?

I thought you were aware than several of the claims Apple used against Samsung weren't even practiced by Apple. It's hardly product "copying" when there's no Apple product using the claimed IP.

Certainly not siding with Samsung on this and I think their business model of mimicking others successful lines rather than creating their own is sad. It's just who Samsung is. In this case tho there wasn't a whole lotta copying going on of Apple features from Apple devices available to consumers. Instead it was making use of IP Apple claimed ownership of.
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The problem I have with this verdict is the fact that it concentrates on the trees and doesn't take the wood into account.

Inevitably, the jury have to concentrate on the details, in order to strive for accuracy. But once they've done that, I feel that the judge should take their verdict and then apply an overarching verdict which takes into account the big picture. The major flaw with this trial is the fact that Apple have been so restricted with the number of patents. It plays into Samsung's hands, because it would have been far more effective to present the enormity of Samsung's theft in one fell swoop.

In copying so much of Apple's look and feel, Samsung were able to get the upper hand in the Android market, which then led to market domination of Android. No other company has made any significant profits with Android. That's why the judge should really have slapped Samsung with a debilitating ban on their current phones and tablets, in order to balance out their earlier ill-gained dominance, combined with a financial penalty that took away most or all of the profits that they enjoyed due to their copying. This would probably run into the billions of dollars.
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In copying so much of Apple's look and feel, Samsung were able to get the upper hand in the Android market, which then led to market domination of Android. No other company has made any significant profits with Android. That's why the judge should really have slapped Samsung with a debilitating ban on their current phones and tablets,

Even if the judge had the ability to do that, it would have been appealed too quickly to make any real difference.

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I thought you were aware than several of the claims Apple used against Samsung weren't even practiced by Apple. It's hardly product "copying" when there's no Apple product using the claimed IP.

Noise has been detected in the signal. Are you aware that several claims in this lawsuit are practiced by Apple? That's copying. You're splitting hairs to defend your beloved copyist. Really. Samsung is not worth your time, unless you get ego satisfaction from being a contrarian on an Apple fan site. 1wink.gif

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I'm glad that the 4 million dollar error was just a clerical mistake. Sheesh. I question how overnight common people can become experts in patent law. The press reports there was an IBM executive, and now suddenly he's the expert because after all he's an IBM executive. I would rather see a group of judges schooled in this area handle these cases. I think the outcome of the trial was ridiculous and pretty much gives license to any foreign company to copy at will.

 

This is likely the "lobbyist effect". We staff Washington with people with the skills to get in office -- but they really don't know much of anything beyond people skills and minor extortion techniques. Then we send a bunch of lobbyists after them, with million dollar credit card limits who ply them with parties and educate them.

 

An IBM executive just happens to walk by the courtroom; "Excuse me sir, you've got a nice suit, a deep voice, and happen to work for a company that does something techy -- maybe you can educate us?" A few drinks and strippers later -- everyone is an expert.

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All this and their phones are still just shit.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0G9yasVKyo

 

Useful video so that next time someone accuses you of not having seen a working S5, you can say you have... and it's still terrible.

 

There is something seriously suspect about the S5 used in that video. First, this is a store demo being shown. Who knows what has happened to that phone sitting out in the public. Let's start with the triangle with the exclamation in it (indicating a system error). I'm sure that some tampering has gone on. Plus anyone can find a video of a malfunctioning cellphone.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgnkWjGvkYo

 

I should add that I don't now or have ever owned ANY Samsung product.

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Until Apple get injunctions which is when Samsung will settle.
If Apple gets an injunction, why would Apple then settle? (unless the settlement included Samsung stops copying).
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I think Apple should initiate settlement with Samsung now, before Samsung appeal goes ahead
Settle what?
Apple already won. Nothing to settle and they definitely would not settle for less than they won
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I think Apple is standing on good principle in defending its IP. Realistically, they don't even have to worry about their patents, they could just adopt a strategy of always staying ahead of everybody and not even worry about all the copycats scrambling behind them, they have the resources to do that for a long time. I know they would like to control what they license and to whom, but the patent trials are at least a way of getting a license payment and acknowledgement for use of their technology versus getting nothing. Still, they should have the choice whether to license or not.

The real question is what about smaller companies like Dyson? Spent a decade polishing and refining an idea for their main product line, did the engineering and patented the result. Along comes Samsung again, scoops it up and copies it down to the last molecule and cranks them out in grey plastic for half the cost. Dyson sued but later had to drop it A lot of innovation will be stifled in the future if people know their successful ideas will be immediately be ripped off. Why bother? Seems to me the consumer is the loser when companies can't bring product to market because there is no incentive to invest in it. Without any acknowledgement that they made a specific new protected thing, it will instead be copied and even adulterated and ruined.

Something has to happen here, and I think Apple is carrying the banner for the inventors of the world. There is more to technology than 'fashion' (which does not recognize patents for some basic obvious reasons). Engineering is tough it takes a lot of time and money. It's not right for Samsung or Google or any other company to just copy the work wholesale. I'm sure Apple expects some imitation, indeed welcomes competition and new solutions to tech, but not total copying! Didn't Samsung do this same ripoff of Sony as well? Make their camera and TV parts and next thing you know they're in the TV and camera business? I won't be buying anything built by Samsung.

Elon Musk has remarked that he doesn't think much of patents, waste of time should be abolished. Fine if you make rockets and automobiles, both fields with few competitors due to high barriers. I wish he understood the need for some kind of idea protection. Maybe this means that in the future ideas will only be developed under the auspices of 'benevolent' corporate sponsors of startup incubators. If they don't like your idea you can only do it all by yourself until they do like your idea enough to steal it.

There is the bad PR angle, I'm sure Apple has thought it through. They will do what is correct.
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So the jury make errors in working out the damages owed, go back to go over their findings again & also take into account the SGII, then afterwards, including the SGII, the outcome remains exactly the same?

 

Sounds very fishy to me. What are the odds on that happening?

 

I was thinking the same thing.  It looks for all the world they came up with a total number and then just spread it around more or less randomly over the devices.  I'd think the total would be arrived at by deciding the value of each patent infringed and simply multiply that number by the number of infringing devices sold.  That should have produced the grand total.

 

It sounds very fishy.

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I'm glad that the 4 million dollar error was just a clerical mistake. Sheesh. I question how overnight common people can become experts in patent law. The press reports there was an IBM executive, and now suddenly he's the expert because after all he's an IBM executive. I would rather see a group of judges schooled in this area handle these cases. I think the outcome of the trial was ridiculous and pretty much gives license to any foreign company to copy at will.

I agree with your sentiments but there is something we can do. Samsung have competitors in nearly every product area and google isn't the only search engin. I think everyone knows where in going with this.... If the legal system won't enforce patents properly then I would suggest a boycott of products from companies that rip off Apple.
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God no, I can only hope we're done with lawsuits now.

Yeah, I mean, who wants to see justice served?

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If Apple keeps suing at some point they're going to become the bad guy in the eyes of the public. The media is incredibly anti-Apple and eventually all that negative press impacts public perception.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/apple-v-samsung-jury-foreman-says-the-consumer-is-the-loser/
"Ultimately, the consumer is the loser in all this," foreman Thomas Dunham, a retired IBM supervisor, told the San Jose Mercury News. "I'd like to see them find a way to settle. I hope this (verdict) in some way helps shape that future."

Sod the fucking media. The people love Apple products and have voted with their feet. When it comes to reporting on Apple, the mainstream media are the scum of the earth.

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Hey, I don't think that but that's how the anti-Apple media will portray it (some already are) and when that's the media meme day in and day out people start to believe it. Apple got $119M when they were asking for $2B. How long does Apple have to keep suing before they prove their point? Or when people start wondering if it's worth it when the legal fees are almost as much as the damages they are awarded? Twice now a jury found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple's patents. Apple's never going to be able to sue them out of business. And Apple doesn't seem to be winning the PR war. What's the point of more lawsuits? The more Apple sues, the more the media will make them out to be the bad guys.

You really don't get it. You're suggesting that Apple should just give up and let Samsung do as they please. Fucking ridiculous.

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