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Ubiquitous social network Facebook on Wednesday issued an update to its flagship iOS app, bringing a new feature that automatically publishes posts created when a user's cell signal is weak or their phone is not connected to a data network.



Facebook version 10.0 continues the company's odd version numbering scheme as the changes made in this latest iteration are far less significant than some recent point updates.

The most substantial addition to the app comes in a new feature that lets users concoct draft posts while offline and upload them when a network connection becomes available. Facebook says the function kicks in when a data connection is weak or the device is in Airplane Mode.

Additionally, version 10.0 allows users to preview draft posts prior to publishing and remove unwanted "suggested links" to books, movies and songs when sharing status updates.

Finally, the update brings unnamed improvements that speed up News Feed loading times, especially when the app is used on older devices.

Facebook version 10.0 is a free 59.4MB download from the App Store.
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Does it also delay Facebook posting until you're done driving in North Carolina?

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Updated on my iPhone, the "top stories vs recent posts" setting usually at the top of the timeline that always seems to mysteriously set itself back to "top stories" no matter how many times you set it back to "most recent" is now entirely missing. Ugh, why does FB try to shove the "top stories " thing so hard? No one I know wants it.
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Hey Facebook, how about a version that keeps posts in chronological order!!!!
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Updated on my iPhone, the "top stories vs recent posts" setting usually at the top of the timeline that always seems to mysteriously set itself back to "top stories" no matter how many times you set it back to "most recent" is now entirely missing. Ugh, why does FB try to shove the "top stories " thing so hard? No one I know wants it.

It's now buried way in there... 

 

Tap on the More

Scroll down until you find Feeds

Go the whole way to the bottom of the first section. That's where you'll find Most Recent

 

GRRRR!!! I hate Facebook more with every update! 

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Facebook .. how about flushing the highly irritating 'People You May Know' on the News Feed down the pot.  While I'm about it, make display of the Chat pane on the iPad app that takes up 1/3 of the limited screen space, optional.  In short, hire some staff who have half a clue about good user interface design.

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It's now buried way in there... 

Tap on the More
Scroll down until you find Feeds
Go the whole way to the bottom of the first section. That's where you'll find Most Recent

GRRRR!!! I hate Facebook more with every update! 

Dammit... really?

Fuuuuuu.....
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Use facebook's paper app. All posts are in chronological order.
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Have they removed messaging? If they have I'm not upgrading
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Hey Facebook, how about a version that keeps posts in chronological order!!!!

 

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It's now buried way in there... 

 

Tap on the More

Scroll down until you find Feeds

Go the whole way to the bottom of the first section. That's where you'll find Most Recent

 

GRRRR!!! I hate Facebook more with every update! 

Got my own major gripes, however tech and logistics wise, they are facing some thorny issues....

http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/16/5620300/facebooks-friend-problem

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Use facebook's paper app. All posts are in chronological order.

 

Except that paper doesn't have every single item on it's main page that the Facebook newsfeed has.  

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Have they removed messaging? If they have I'm not upgrading

No, not yet.

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Use facebook's paper app. All posts are in chronological order.

And it's only available for Americans.... Facebook just can't get it right. This Top stories/news feed thing kills me. Let me have the Most Recent stuff and be done with it.
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This Top stories/news feed thing kills me. Let me have the Most Recent stuff and be done with it.

Exactly. It's called a News FEED because it's supposed to be a feed of everything that comes down the line.

I just opened up the Facebook app and here are the first things I see:

Someone updated their profile picture - 21 minutes ago
A status update - 13 hours ago
Another post - from YESTERDAY

WTF?

And now they make it MORE difficult to simply see a chronological list of posts.

Twitter and Instagram show you what happened in the order it happened. That's the way it should to be.

I know Facebook thinks they're being clever with their algorithm.... but they're not....
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That article is then followed by an appropriate comment:
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Dude, one of the most interesting social networks I’ve been on was the comment section of a porn site. You can’t beat that experience anywhere.

A guy would be like:

“This porno has my favorite female star fucking my favorite male star. I would give it 2 thumbs up, but both my hands are busy fapping”

Can't believe people stil use FB "There's nothing social about Social Media" Though Princeton University says 80% of its current users will be gone by 2018: (11 page .pdf)
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.4208v1.pdf

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/22/facebook-princeton-researchers-infectious-disease
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Facebook uses real guinea pigs for testing,
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I deleted the app months ago after putting up with the slowness and crashing in all prior 9 versions and updates. Screw it. Garbage goes in the garbage can. Won't try again. The mobile website is just as crappy/useable as the app. Why bother with the app?
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Exactly. It's called a News FEED because it's supposed to be a feed of everything that comes down the line.

I just opened up the Facebook app and here are the first things I see:

Someone updated their profile picture - 21 minutes ago
A status update - 13 hours ago
Another post - from YESTERDAY

WTF?

And now they make it MORE difficult to simply see a chronological list of posts.

Twitter and Instagram show you what happened in the order it happened. That's the way it should to be.

I know Facebook thinks they're being clever with their algorithm.... but they're not....

They're delivering sponsored content and favoring popular stuff. It has nothing to do with chronology or "news feeds". Just like they utterly violated the word "friend", they've utterly defeated the term "news feed". Shock. Awe. They're an advertising seller and we are their product. They don't care what the users want or think and feel. They only care what works best for ad impressions.

Just like Google and its growing ever more irrelevant search results.
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So glad Appleinsider keeps me posted about Facebook updates. So relevant. 

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They're delivering sponsored content and favoring popular stuff. It has nothing to do with chronology or "news feeds". Just like they utterly violated the word "friend", they've utterly defeated the term "news feed". Shock. Awe. They're an advertising seller and we are their product. They don't care what the users want or think and feel. They only care what works best for ad impressions.

Just like Google and its growing ever more irrelevant search results.

Oh yeah.... I know Facebook is an advertising company and that they make most (all?) of their money from ads.

What I'm saying is this:

Make the experience enjoyable in order to keep me coming back. Facebook needs eyeballs to see their ads... but pissed-off eyeballs aren't good thing. I know corporations don't care about us... but they still need us.

In my example earlier... there were ads in-between those posts. That's fine! I don't mind ads.

But for the love of god... please let me see posts in the proper order.

BAD

Old post
AD
Older post
AD
Even older post
AD
etc...

GOOD

Post from 1 minute ago
AD
Post from 2 minutes ago
AD
Post from 3 minutes ago
AD
etc...

Again... Facebook can continue to show ads. That's how most of the Internet works. But let me see the content as it happened.

Blogs are chronological. Twitter and Instagram are chronological. It's not a difficult concept.

Facebook will show me ads regardless... and I'm fine with that. I just don't see why they have to show me a seemingly random order of posts.
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Oh yeah.... I know Facebook is an advertising company and that they make most (all?) of their money from ads.

What I'm saying is this:

Make the experience enjoyable in order to keep me coming back. Facebook needs eyeballs to see their ads... but pissed-off eyeballs aren't good thing. I know corporations don't care about us... but they still need us.

In my example earlier... there were ads in-between those posts. That's fine! I don't mind ads.

But for the love of god... please let me see posts in the proper order.

BAD

Old post
AD
Older post
AD
Even older post
AD
etc...

GOOD

Post from 1 minute ago
AD
Post from 2 minutes ago
AD
Post from 3 minutes ago
AD
etc...

Again... Facebook can continue to show ads. That's how most of the Internet works. But let me see the content as it happened.

Blogs are chronological. Twitter and Instagram are chronological. It's not a difficult concept.

Facebook will show me ads regardless... and I'm fine with that. I just don't see why they have to show me a seemingly random order of posts.

Exactly. I don't mind the ads, just put everything in order!

**ding ding ding** perhaps that's why they screw up the order so people will complain about that than complain about the ads.
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I have found a way round this.  Create a group friend list* called (say) 'all friends'.  Add all your friends to it.  Drag it up to the top of the left hand side bar so it sits under the news feed.  Use this instead of the news feed.  It has far fewer adverts / suggested posts, it shows you stuff from all your friends, not just the ones Facebook thinks you might be interested in hearing from and it remains resolutely in chronological order.

 

Edit: Sloppy terminology from me.  Should have said Friend list.  Go to 'Friends' in the side bar, click on 'more' and create a list.


Edited by webweasel - 5/15/14 at 1:27pm
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I have found a way round this.  Create a group called (say) 'all friends'.  Add all your friends to it.  Drag it up to the top of the left hand side bar so it sits under the news feed.  Use this instead of the news feed.  It has far fewer adverts / suggested posts, it shows you stuff from all your friends, not just the ones Facebook thinks you might be interested in hearing from and it remains resolutely in chronological order.

Does this solution work on the mobile app?

I already have the "Recent Posts" URL bookmarked on my desktop browser. It's not a problem there.

The problem is the iOS app... forcing "Top Stories" instead.
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Old post
AD
Older post
AD
Even older post
AD

Are these ads in Flash? Cause I'm not seeing them, and that might be because I don't have Flash installed on my Mac.
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Does this solution work on the mobile app?

I already have the "Recent Posts" URL bookmarked on my desktop browser. It's not a problem there.

The problem is the iOS app... forcing "Top Stories" instead.


Yup,  I use it all the time.  The only thing is that it will most times default to the news feed, so you have to remember to go back to the sidebar and check.

 

Edit: Not sure you can set up groups from the app though.

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Yup,  I use it all the time.  The only thing is that it will most times default to the news feed, so you have to remember to go back to the sidebar and check.

Edit: Not sure you can set up groups from the app though.

Awesome... I'll check it out 1smile.gif
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Mike - I've amended my original post because it was badly worded.  It's not a 'group' you set up exactly, it's a 'friend list'.

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Are these ads in Flash? Cause I'm not seeing them, and that might be because I don't have Flash installed on my Mac.

I was talking about the iOS app... and the ads were what they call "Sponsored Posts"

Like I said before... I don't have a problem with Facebook making money with ads or "Sponsored Posts"

I just want the app to default to "Most Recent" instead of what they think are my "Top Stories"

Here are the timestamps of the "Top Stories" I see right now in the default view in the iOS Facebook app:

5 minutes ago
2 hours ago
8 hours ago
Sponsored post - Uber
46 minutes ago
4 hours ago
4 hours ago
3 hours ago
Yesterday
1 hour ago
4 hours ago
5 hours ago
5 hours ago
Yesterday
Yesterday
6 hours ago
Suggested App - Smart Alarm Clock
8 hours ago
5 hours ago

And here's what I see when I manually switch to "Most Recent"

Just now
2 minutes ago
5 minutes ago
Suggested App - Game of War: Fire Age
5 minutes ago
10 minutes ago
11 minutes ago
13 minutes ago
14 minutes ago
14 minutes ago
15 minutes ago
16 minutes ago
20 minutes ago
22 minutes ago
23 minutes ago
25 minutes ago
26 minutes ago
29 minutes ago
30 minutes ago

I just want to see the feed as it happens.. instead of Facebook deciding what I want to see.

To switch to "Most Recent" in the old iOS Facebook app... it took a simple swipe and a single tap. I did it often.

Now it's buried deep in a menu and requires 3 taps.

In short... "Top Stories" sucks.
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Mike - I've amended my original post because it was badly worded.  It's not a 'group' you set up exactly, it's a 'friend list'.

Ok.... but how do you get the iOS Facebook app to default to this new friends list instead of "Top Stories" ?

That's the big issue here.

I don't want to have to manually select a list each time I open the Facebook app.

I just want "Most Recent" to be what I see all the time.
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I was talking about the iOS app...

Sorry, I totally missed that, all the while it was right in front of me.

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In short... "Top Stories" sucks.

I see that now. Wow. Would using Safari instead of their native app help with that? I do, for the odd occasion I 'need' to check in on FB. (not a fan; hardly ever use it)
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I don't want to have to manually select a list each time I open the Facebook app.
 

Well this doesn't quite do that.  Once you create the list it will appear in the sidebar.  You can then edit the sidebar to move it up to the top, directly under 'News Feed'.  You have to select it every so often as the app tends to default to the News Feed, but it is a damn sight easier than going through several sub menus to achieve the same thing.  It's also better because it is a comprehensive list of everything, not an edited list of things Facebook thinks you might be interested in.

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Well this doesn't quite do that.  Once you create the list it will appear in the sidebar.  You can then edit the sidebar to move it up to the top, directly under 'News Feed'.  You have to select it every so often as the app tends to default to the News Feed, but it is a damn sight easier than going through several sub menus to achieve the same thing.  It's also better because it is a comprehensive list of everything, not an edited list of things Facebook thinks you might be interested in.

Ah gotcha.
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I see that now. Wow. Would using Safari instead of their native app help with that? I do, for the odd occasion I 'need' to check in on FB. (not a fan; hardly ever use it)

Not really... the mobile web version of Facebook still has the same limitations.

Even with webweasel's suggestion... you still have to manually select a different list in order to get something that resembles "Most Recent"

More taps... more frustration. Ugh.
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FB app still sucks: you're writing a post or reply; phone call comes and you take it, end phone call and all your typing is gone.
The app does not maintain its state.
Getting a phone call on a phone should be expected and be handled properly...
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FB app still sucks: you're writing a post or reply; phone call comes and you take it, end phone call and all your typing is gone.
The app does not maintain its state.
Getting a phone call on a phone should be expected and be handled properly...

"That's Facebook alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things".
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