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The somewhat awkward positioning of the display in Google's head-worn mobile device dubbed Glass has been shown to cause eye muscle fatigue and headaches in some early adopters, leading at least one evangelist to suggest that the product should come with a warning label.




Much of the problem stems from users who are unaccustomed to looking upward for long periods of time, Harvard optometrist Dr. Eli Peli told BetaBeat. Google brought Dr. Peli in as a consultant when issues began to arise.

"The only people who look up a lot are some professionals like electricians and painters," Dr. Peli said. "Most of us look either straight or down. It's well known that up is less comfortable."

"It's not a headache, it's sort of a discomfort in the eye muscles," he added. "To describe it as a headache is inconsistent with how people experience headaches."

Both Dr. Peli and Google suggest that pain can be alleviated by using Glass for shorter periods of time, especially in the beginning before users' eyes have had a chance to adjust to looking repeatedly in Glass's direction. Google likened it to the adjustment period that many people experience with a new pair of prescription eyeglasses and said that the eyewear was "designed for micro-interactions, not for staring into the screen, watching Friday night movie marathons or reading 'War and Peace.'"

As noted by BetaBeat, early Glass evangelist Chris Barrett told CNET that he believes "there should be a warning that comes with Glass; that if you start to get a headache, you should limit your use." Barrett has since abandoned Glass due to the pain.
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"Doctor, it hurts when I press there."

"Then don't press there."
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I've never worn one, but my eyes hurt when I look at it. Must have area damage.

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Eric Schmidt: You’re wearing it wrong.

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It's probably just a tumor pressing on the optic nerve above the eyes… which also explains the lack the of cognitive thinking that caused them to pay $1500 for the device in the first place.



PS: Apple gets a lot of guff because their BoM is about half of what they charge for their device but according to this recent article the Google Glass BoM is only $79 to $150 despite the $1500 price tag. Note: This doesn't validate any of these wild guesstimates or narrow cost view of the BoM but I'm curious to see if these reports will make as people made as when BoMs for Apple products are released. I'm guessing that won't happen.

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That's weird. Because when I see other people wearing that thing, it's a pain in my ass.

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Amazing that even 3 years after its beta unveiling, Google Glass still looks EXACTLY the same- they havent been able to make it any smaller or more svelte. Still looks like a fucking abomination, still extremely limited, and now they quietly just released it to the market at the exact same $1,500 price. The Glass still has the same shitload of technology, privacy, social, and privacy issues since day 1. Nothing has been addressed.

Incredible how much positive press Google got over the glass, which almost single-handedly led the narrative of "Google innovates and Apple doesn't", and sparked tens of thousands of articles and blog posts the past couple years. Yet, its obvious Glass is and will be a complete market failure- Gogle isnt even bothering to advertise it in any capacity anymore. But thats fine, right? Google will get no flack over that- the important thing is the build up, the hype, all the evangelizers. This thing wont even make a blip in the market, when all is said and done. Its ok- now Google can move on to their next pie-in-the-sky product that tech blogs can salivate about in order to bash Apple, then promptly forget about.
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It's the new omni-grab!!! (watch The Jerk if you don't get it)
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Amazing that even 3 years after its beta unveiling, Google Glass still looks EXACTLY the same- they havent been able to make it any smaller or more svelte. Still looks like a fucking abomination, still extremely limited, and now they quietly just released it to the market at the exact same $1,500 price. The Glass still has the same shitload of technology, privacy, social, and privacy issues since day 1. Nothing has been addressed.

Incredible how much positive press Google got over the glass, which almost single-handedly led the narrative of "Google innovates and Apple doesn't", and sparked tens of thousands of articles and blog posts the past couple years. Yet, its obvious Glass is and will be a complete market failure- Gogle isnt even bothering to advertise it in any capacity anymore. But thats fine, right? Google will get no flack over that- the important thing is the build up, the hype, all the evangelizers. This thing wont even make a blip in the market, when all is said and done. Its ok- now Google can move on to their next pie-in-the-sky product that tech blogs can salivate about in order to bash Apple, then promptly forget about.

 

Don't forget it was also unveiled with a super gimmicky parachute PR stunt.  You'd think they back that up.

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I really feel that the warning label should also say that you look like a fool also?

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One guy realized that he didn't need the headache or the Glassholery:

 

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It will be harder, however, for Google to address Barrett's other concern with Glass. Having severely limited his usage, he's finding that he neither misses the device, nor sees a compelling continued use for it.

He told me: "I have it on my desk every day, but I just don't have a good enough reason to wear it. It's not worth the headache. I get my e-mails on my laptop or iPhone if I'm on the go."

 

http://www.cnet.com/news/google-glass-enthusiast-its-not-worth-the-headaches/

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It's the new omni-grab!!! (watch The Jerk if you don't get it)

 

Waiting for the first class action lawsuit to be filed for eye pain or damage. It WILL happen.

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It's the new omni-grab!!! (watch The Jerk if you don't get it)

 

You beat me to it.

 

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I personally don't want anything in the layer between myself and the world via the primary way I experience the world, through my eyes.

 

I would rather interact with an object, even if the object were a simulated one.

 

My son has friend who wears those douche-identifying Glasses, and his eyes do not focus properly when he takes them off.  One eye continues to scroll up and move independently of the other.  The Glasses literally have deformed the kids eyes.

 

Maybe if you stop using the Glasses, the damage reverses.  But clearly people are made to interact with objects not to alter the way their eyes work. 

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Don't forget it was also unveiled with a super gimmicky parachute PR stunt.  You'd think they back that up.

Don't forget the strange area 51 mysterious barges they constructed as Glass Stores that lacked proper permitting....
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An evangelist named Christ?
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post #17 of 60
Just when you think you can have Sex with Glass

Of course this will give you a headache.

When you ask for directions, Glass first confirms the address:


Navigation in 2D gives you a bird's-eye view of the map:


Error messages are very clear:


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It's probably just a tumor pressing on the optic nerve above the eyes… which also explains the lack the of cognitive thinking that caused them to pay $1500 for the device in the first place.



PS: Apple gets a lot of guff because their BoM is about half of what they charge for their device but according to this recent article the Google Glass BoM is only $79 to $150 despite the $1500 price tag. Note: This doesn't validate any of these wild guesstimates or narrow cost view of the BoM but I'm curious to see if these reports will make as people made as when BoMs for Apple products are released. I'm guessing that won't happen.

 

I've seen Apple end up on the wrong side of a double standard enough number of times to stop holding my breath for Apple to get a fair shake in the press.

 

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Amazing that even 3 years after its beta unveiling, Google Glass still looks EXACTLY the same- they havent been able to make it any smaller or more svelte. Still looks like a fucking abomination, still extremely limited, and now they quietly just released it to the market at the exact same $1,500 price. The Glass still has the same shitload of technology, privacy, social, and privacy issues since day 1. Nothing has been addressed.

Incredible how much positive press Google got over the glass, which almost single-handedly led the narrative of "Google innovates and Apple doesn't", and sparked tens of thousands of articles and blog posts the past couple years. Yet, its obvious Glass is and will be a complete market failure- Gogle isnt even bothering to advertise it in any capacity anymore. But thats fine, right? Google will get no flack over that- the important thing is the build up, the hype, all the evangelizers. This thing wont even make a blip in the market, when all is said and done. Its ok- now Google can move on to their next pie-in-the-sky product that tech blogs can salivate about in order to bash Apple, then promptly forget about.

 

People have a short memory. Google's handling of Glass is nothing new. That's the way Google has been doing things for years.

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Waiting for the first class action lawsuit to be filed for eye pain or damage. It WILL happen.

You mean glass action lawsuit...
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I heard of Google Glass when they were used to film a domestic violence awareness ad, but I had never actually seen them until I read this article. They look ridiculous! You'd think for $1,500 a pair they'd have invested in the style of them. It's akin to something my seven year old son would wear while pretending to be a spy... In fact, Spy Geeks has a pair of sunglasses with an embedded video camera that are more sleek than these things!
post #21 of 60
I think the eye pain is caused by Glassholes being punched in the face for wearing the dumb things in public.
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Never thought about this part, geeks could use them in a self help mode, they could watch a porno so they know how to have sex with another person and they can do it in real time.

 

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It's a joke of a product. A solution in search of a problem. Incredibly poorly designed both hardware-wise and software-wise. By idiots, for idiots.

 

I tried one on for about half an hour, and couldn't stand it. Had a really massive headache afterwards.

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Never thought about this part, geeks could use them in a self help mode, they could watch a porno so they know how to have sex with another person and they can do it in real time.

Yikes! Guess Google Glass is opening my eyes, and that's not a good thing. I can see it all now, the picture is more clear and transparent than ever; thanks Google¡
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My daughter is going through extensive vision therapy, due to a concussion she suffer and had side effect which because her eyes no longer track together properly. She has consent headaches all the time because of this issue. Based on what we learned from the doctors, I knew this was going to happen with Google glasses. It is one thing to use something like this which forces only one eye to focus on an object once in a while, but using it all the time, it will cause eye strain and cause the muscle to not working together anymore.

 

This where the geek factor fails to understand the real world use and human usability factor. But this all generate news for Google and Google seems to benefit from good and bad news equally well.

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I'm glad! :lol:

 

Remember back when Googles Glass first came out and we were talking about it on this forum?

 

I and many others viewed it as an obnoxious device that invades people's privacy, and the argument from a few defenders was that there's this red light that turns on whenever it's recording, so there! What brilliant logic (naive idiocy) these defenders had. And then I said, so f*cking what, somebody will obviously figure out a way to disable it, and that's already been taken care of now!

 

I'm not at all surprised that certain Glassholes have been involved in various incidents, and frankly, most of them deserved it. I can definitely see more Glassholes being beaten up in the future, because some of them are definitely looking for trouble. Nobody had better walk up to me and ask me any questions while wearing that recording device on their face. 

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What's teling is that Google employees/execs are not wearing them in public or during presentations anymore. Why? They did so for a couple years, just to show us how "normal" it was, as if we'd stop noticing the massive bulge in front of their faces. But now, the've stopped because even they are too embarrassed so do so. It's ok though, half of Google+ profile pics are taken with this abomination on their faces. The great thing about how Google does shit shit is it allows them to slowly draw down and back away from the product, without much financial damage. Imagine if they actually had real conviction in this thing- set a real launch date, and manufactured millions to hit that launch date, even before anyone has touched the product- as Apple does. Because they actually, truly believe in what they sell. Google? They need to do a market test and a massive online campaign before they even decide if its worth launching. 

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The eye pain for the user is nothing in comparison to the pain in the ass for others around them.

 

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I think the eye pain is caused by Glassholes being punched in the face for wearing the dumb things in public.
 

CRAP! You beat me to it. Same exact joke popped into my head when I read the headline. Great minds....

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The 'eye pain' is from being slugged by people who don't want morons recording everything.

 

-EDIT: I wasn't the first to suggest that. Well, great minds, and all that.

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Not at all surprised. We didn't evolve with this crap on our faces. Glasses give me eye and head pain on a regular basis.
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Waiting for the first class action lawsuit to be filed for eye pain or damage. It WILL happen.

But will they make more than they spent on the things in the first place?
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Originally Posted by dysamoria View Post

Glasses give me eye and head pain on a regular basis.

I wear glasses for extended periods of time (I need it for reading), and even though I got a terrible headache from wearing Google Glass, I've never once got one from wearing my regular glasses. The problem with GG is how it makes you squint with one eye that is constantly switching back and forth between the 'real' world and the silly GG world.

 

Not trying to be snarky, but perhaps you need to see a professional regarding your glasses.

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The 'eye pain' is from being slugged by people who don't want morons recording everything.

 

-EDIT: I wasn't the first to suggest that. Well, great minds, and all that.

 

The nice thing is they will have a great video of the battery to press criminal charges.

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CRAP! You beat me to it. Same exact joke popped into my head when I read the headline. Great minds....

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The 'eye pain' is from being slugged by people who don't want morons recording everything.

-EDIT: I wasn't the first to suggest that. Well, great minds, and all that.

I had to quickly read all the posts prior so I could be first! Haha.
post #36 of 60
Don't the medical experts state that looking up for long periods of time is actually bad for your eyes anyway cause them to dry out.

Seems like if this is actually the case Google Glass does more damage than... well it never really did any good did it?
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AI is too nice to tell the real story ...

 

Google Glass found to cause eye pain in some new users ... and the rest ... A$$ pain!

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On another news ... Sergey Brin, the inventor of stupid Glass, got himself in some trouble!

 

 

Wearing Glass at the wrong time ... wrong place!

 

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I'm glad! :lol:

 

Remember back when Googles Glass first came out and we were talking about it on this forum?

 

I and many others viewed it as an obnoxious device that invades people's privacy, and the argument from a few defenders was that there's this red light that turns on whenever it's recording, so there! What brilliant logic (naive idiocy) these defenders had. And then I said, so f*cking what, somebody will obviously figure out a way to disable it, and that's already been taken care of now!

 

I'm not at all surprised that certain Glassholes have been involved in various incidents, and frankly, most of them deserved it. I can definitely see more Glassholes being beaten up in the future, because some of them are definitely looking for trouble. Nobody had better walk up to me and ask me any questions while wearing that recording device on their face. 

Then you would appreciate this guy then, he is not doing anything illegal and actually he is just doing what thousands of camera around most cities and building do 24/7 but this guy invokes a reaction by just standing there.

 

https://www.facebook.com/SurveillanceCameraMan

 

and here is one of his videos

 

 


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The nice thing is they will have a great video of the battery to press criminal charges.

 

But the judge will dismiss the case and charge the Google Glass wearer for inciting the incident.  Wouldn't that be nice?   LOL...

post #40 of 60
Surely the best warning label is simply photos of people wearing Glass? Should put any sane person off.

I'm amazed that Google seem so determined to continue with a project that to most people is so obviously doomed. Ugly, expensive, publically reviled and provides no practical benefit to the user, and yet they continue to push it like it's actually going to go on sale one day... It seems to have an internal momentum that cannot be stopped no matter what the beta testers say, reminds me very much of Vista and Win8 prior to release. What's the point of beta testing and getting early adopter feedback if you then ignore it and make no real changes to the product?
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