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Yeah, right, if that was true then that frickin' insurance ad where the guy yells at us wouldn't run. It makes me turn the TV off every time it runs. I absolutely *hate* Progressive now.  I won't do business with them ever.  But their ads still pollute my TV.

Don't think I ever saw the Progressive ad with "yelling man". No doubt tho that for every ad viewed favorably by 100 people there's also going to be a few who don't like it. I can't imagine any well-established company would continue running an ad that most viewers hate but I suppose it can't be ruled out.
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post #42 of 125

No shit Einsteins! ROFLAMO

 

It's google. What did you expect?

 

And guess what. google will display Ads on your A$$ too ... and your unborn babies!:smokey: 

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post #43 of 125

Why is no one complaining about the amount of malware advertisements that are prioritized through Google's search bar? The image that AI is showing with the refrigerator are malware links, pushed to the top of the Google Search engine as mal-vertisements. Anything with the "Avert" tag on any browser should not be trusted. 

These ads install all kinds of spyware/malware. Take searching for Adobe Flash for instance. The top 3 hits are bad download sites that install all kinds of horrible malware on your computer, powered by Google's advertisement services. Why is google allowed to peddle malware to it's users, and circumvent it's own blacklisting/malware protection in Chrome? 

This will be a giant headache once this type of malware gets infected on refrigerators, thermostats, watches.. ect. 

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Google is selling to the Android crowd, a crowd that will do anything to save a buck, so putting ads on anything and everything certainly makes sense. There are people out there who will buy these products, as long as they cost less than the proper ads free versions of these products.

 

In the future, Google will be implanting a chip into people for free, and it will be the next version of "Android" in the truest sense of the world. Google will basically own people, and there are definitely people out there who are dumb enough to do this, as long as it's free or extremely low cost. Just look at how many people use cheap and free Android phones. Googles Glass is only a taste of what's to come.

 

Cross eyed people everywhere will be walking around like robots on drugs, being served up Ads 24-7. Even when they sleep, Google will tap into these people's brains and the word Fandroid will take on a whole new meaning.

 

It will be the perfect idiocracy society. People wont have to drive themselves anymore, there's Google's automated cars for that, and people wont even have to think anymore, and why should they, because the microchip implanted into their bodies will be much smarter than many people's brains, especially people who can't afford anything.

 

There is no shortage of cheap people who will whore themselves out to Google, allowing and accepting Ads to placed everywhere.

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Why is no one complaining about the amount of malware advertisements that are prioritized through Google's search bar? 

Because what you are claiming is complete nonsense.

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post #46 of 125
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The sheep often called the American consumer will accept it the same way they accepted 33% of their TV time is advertisements, movie theaters showing ads before the feature, ads embedded into content such as sitcoms, ads on just about every web page that exist, etc...

I don't know what the stats are, but I imagine the percentage of TV time that is advertisements for viewers has to be lower now with so many people using DVR's. I don't watch anything live other than soccer games. No commercial breaks during the game except at half time. The NFL has become unwatchable for me now with so many TV time outs. All the shows I watch are recorded so I can skip through the commercials. 

post #47 of 125

I don't think Tony Fadell or other Nest Labs founders/investors care about what happen now. They already sold and already got paid. They knew on some level how Google monetizes its assets.

 

(By the way, isn't it interesting that the rumored $3.2 billion that Apple is paying for Beats Electronics is exactly the same purchase price as Nest Labs to Google?)

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post #48 of 125
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Google is selling to the Android crowd, a crowd that will do anything to save a buck, so putting ads on anything and everything certainly makes sense. There are people out there who will buy these products, as long as they cost less than the proper ads free versions of these products.

 

In the future, Google will be implanting a chip into people for free, and it will be the next version of "Android" in the truest sense of the world. Google will basically own people, and there are definitely people out there who are dumb enough to do this, as long as it's free or extremely low cost. Just look at how many people use cheap and free Android phones. Googles Glass is only a taste of what's to come.

 

Cross eyed people everywhere will be walking around like robots on drugs, being served up Ads 24-7. Even when they sleep, Google will tap into these people's brains and the word Fandroid will take on a whole new meaning.

 

It will be the perfect idiocracy society. People wont have to drive themselves anymore, there's Google's automated cars for that, and people wont even have to think anymore, and why should they, because the microchip implanted into their bodies will be much smarter than many people's brains, especially people who can't afford anything.

 

There is no shortage of cheap people who will whore themselves out to Google, allowing and accepting Ads to placed everywhere.

Who says it'll cost any less?

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post #49 of 125
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It's coming and people will wear it (because everything is cheaper with ads!).




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Exactly what I think of. Most cable news and financial channels are like that now: video in a small window with multiple news crawls, weather and sports flashing on the screen. "Infotainment."

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post #50 of 125
Ads on dashboards in cars, Google Glass and Thermostats? OH GOD. People don't stare at their thermostat all day long. That's a DUMB place for an ad. People usually set it and forget it and maybe change it 1 to 4 times a year when the seasons change.

On car's dashboards? Oh, so people are going to have another distraction instead of driving? Oh great. I'm sure that will get knocked down as the Governement won't allow that.

Google Glass with Ads? There isn't enough room on that tiny screen to do anything.

Google has LOST their minds.

I don't buy a computer device to look at ads.
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I think people are misunderstanding what they are saying here. AdSense works like this: You have a website, you let Google have some space on your page where they place relevant ads, you get paid. I know this because I've been doing it for years. The only way you are going to see AdSense ads on your refrigerator is if it has a browser and you surf the web to some page that has Google AdSense running on it. The ads do not live on the refrigerator unless your refrigerator is also a web server in which case you wouldn't see them, you would just get paid. 

Not necessarily.   Future "smart" refrigerators (of which I want no part) will read the barcodes of the products within, then remind you when you've depleted that product.  It could even send you a text like, "You're out of orange juice".   That could tie into Google and either automatically display an e-commerce food site or a bunch of ads or coupons for those and similar products.    

 

I don't see any of this as convenience; I see it as bother and a further privacy intrusion.      

 

But I don't think this will be accepted by the market anyway.    Back in the 1970s when I was a recording engineer and producer, I produced a spot for "the world's first talking refrigerator from Frigidaire".   It was actually nothing more than a tape recorder in the door where one could leave messages like "don't eat the pie" and "heat the leftovers up to 300 degrees for 15 minutes."     It was a massive failure.   I really don't think people want a refrigerator leaving them messages or showing them ads of any kind.   They have enough other devices to accomplish that.    People are not going to want to see ads on their thermostat either.   What's next - my thermostat automatically sending a message to Facebook and posting how warm or cool it is in my home?

 

While we're not quite there yet, I think at some point not too long into the future, there's going to be a big backlash to data and advertising overload.    Some study will come out demonstrating how it doesn't actually result in sales and it will be over for that aspect of the advertising industry.

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Google doesn't say that advertising will appear on these other systems.

 

which is why the title says "may". 

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On car's dashboards? Oh, so people are going to have another distraction instead of driving? Oh great. I'm sure that will get knocked down as the Governement won't allow that.

With self-driving cars, you'll have plenty of time to view ads (and you'll be a captive audience). Now we know the true intent behind this innovation.

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Reminds me of this article where you could hear relevant Google ads during a 911 call:

 

http://www.theonion.com/video/new-google-phone-service-whispers-targeted-ads-dir,17470/

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There is no shortage of cheap people who will whore themselves out to Google, allowing and accepting Ads to placed everywhere.

I don't know why people always blame Google for excessive advertising. Have you looked at a newspaper, magazine, television, billboards in the city, or listened to the radio recently? All packed with ads and Google had nothing to do it. Advertising is pervasive in modern society. It is not just Google?

 

I seriously doubt Google is going to make a refrigerator and put ads on it. That is not the way it works. They haven't put ads on any of their hardware to my knowledge, although Amazon has done that with their device.

 

It is not Google, but other companies that are responsible for the ads you see in search results and commercial website like AI. Those companies create the ads and pay for them to be displayed. Google simply maintains the algorithm that attempts to find an appropriate ad that will be of interest to a reader. If you are a tech guy, would you rather they displayed an ad for high tech gadgets or or some random ad for feminine hygiene? Either way there is going to be an ad there because that is how capitalism works.

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With self-driving cars, you'll have plenty of time to view ads (and you'll be a captive audience). Now we know the true intent behind this innovation.

How many of these self driving cars are they actually going to sell each year for the next 10 years?  A couple of thousand?  The car mfg have to charge a of money for the capabilities and people have to have at least $5 Million in liability insurance which is a lot higher than people have currently, so people's insurance premiums is going to go up because of self driving cars.

 

How long do you think it's going to take until they sell more than 1% of the new cars with this expensive feature?  at least 50 years before it's affordable enough to grab even a small amount of market share of new car sales.

 

Remember, Google customers that buy Android phones don't spend much money because they don't have that much money.

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Who says it'll cost any less?

Products with ads suck and they usually cost less than proper versions.

 

Look at Amazon's Kindle, if you want the cheapest version, it'll be with ads. People have to pay for the privilege of not getting spammed by any ads.

 

Google is all about ads, pricing things cheap and giving stuff away for free is part of their strategy.

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I don't know why people always blame Google for excessive advertising. Have you looked at a newspaper, magazine, television, billboards in the city, or listened to the radio recently? All packed with ads and Google had nothing to do it. Advertising is pervasive in modern society. It is not just Google?

 

I seriously doubt Google is going to make a refrigerator and put ads on it. That is not the way it works. They haven't put ads on any of their hardware to my knowledge, although Amazon has done that with their device.

 

It is not Google, but other companies that are responsible for the ads you see in search results and commercial website like AI. Those companies create the ads and pay for them to be displayed. Google simply maintains the algorithm that attempts to find an appropriate ad that will be of interest to a reader. If you are a tech guy, would you rather they displayed an ad for high tech gadgets or or some random ad for feminine hygiene? Either way there is going to be an ad there because that is how capitalism works.

 

I agree that ads are everywhere, and sometimes people have little choice in avoiding them, but that doesn't mean that people should accept ads on hardware like refrigerators, thermostats, glasses and on car dashboards.

 

And I'd rather see an ad for feminine hygiene than an ad for an Android phone, but that's just me.:lol:

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Please watch this ad, you can get your ice cubes in 30 seconds .....

 

Your refrigerator door is locked for the next two hours and twenty seconds.

 

If you wish to unlock your refrigerator door it will cost you 7 gems.

 

A pack of 50 gems may be bought for $4.99 by clicking on this link.

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How many of these self driving cars are they actually going to sell each year for the next 10 years?  A couple of thousand?  The car mfg have to charge a of money for the capabilities and people have to have at least $5 Million in liability insurance which is a lot higher than people have currently, so people's insurance premiums is going to go up because of self driving cars.

 

How long do you think it's going to take until they sell more than 1% of the new cars with this expensive feature?  at least 50 years before it's affordable enough to grab even a small amount of market share of new car sales.

 

Remember, Google customers that buy Android phones don't spend much money because they don't have that much money.

And therein lies the genius, they can offset these increased costs with ... ads! Just agree to ads being streamed to your self-driving car's vid screen whenever you're in it, and it'll cost the same as a regular old manually operated vehicle. Think how much more productive you'll be by not having to drive (while being bombarded with ads), you'll have so much more time (to be flooded with distracting ads)! :)

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And therein lies the genius, they can offset these increased costs with ... ads! Just agree to ads being streamed to your self-driving car's vid screen whenever you're in it, and it'll cost the same as a regular old manually operated vehicle. Think how much more productive you'll be by not having to drive (while being bombarded with ads), you'll have so much more time (to be flooded with distracting ads)! :)

Google doesn't make cars. Auto mfg do.  Most of the cost of driverless cars are in that expensive spinning camera on top, the mechanical crap they have to add and that stuff is HARDWARE and the auto makers have to spend a LOT of money in that crap and charge the customer for it.

 

Google is just providing the software component and that they might have to give to the auto mfg and make up by selling ads?  Hahahahhahahaahaha.  They can't sell enough of these things to make it worthwhile.  

 

They haven't announced how much of a premium it's going to cost for having driverless cars, but in full production, they are STILL going to have to charge at least another $35 to $75K just to have driverless.  That spinning camera on top is RIPPING expensive and they can't make that many per year of those things.  Then you have the pedals and steering wheel that has a bunch of mechanical crap, additional electrical and pneumatic crap on top.  It's a waste of money.  I highly doubt you'll see the average Joe Blow buying a driverless car.  Plus the increase in liabilities to have insurance.  So, the average insurance premium will probably double.  Yeah, this is just for a small group of rich people that want to show off their money..  


Edited by drblank - 5/21/14 at 10:40am
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I can see it now, you must watch an ad before yoo open your fridge door, it has a camera specifically to track your eyes on the display.
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Read this article that was written last year.  It talks about the costs of buying a driverless car.

 

Interesting article.

 

 

http://www.theneweconomy.com/insight/google-driverless-cars

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If the Google brand name is so powerful why is Apple able to sell 150,00,000 iPhones at $600 a piece?

 

Yet Google struggles to sell 100,000 MotoG phones for $199?

 

This is total BS.  To 99% of the population Google is just a search engine. 

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I agree that ads are everywhere, and sometimes people have little choice in avoiding them, but that doesn't mean that people should accept ads on hardware like refrigerators, thermostats, glasses and on car dashboards.

 

I think it is probably going to be up to the user just like it is with in app ads. If you want an app for your fridge that offers free recipes, be prepared for ads. But don't shoot the messenger. Those ads will be from other companies even though they may be delivered by iAd or Google.

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Thanks for the links. Looks like Google was not intentionally delivering malware as you claimed. According to your links the source of the problem was hackers. Google has been pretty good when it comes to warning about hacked web pages. On some occasions Google has interrupted the page load with a warning that the site had be compromised. They certainly don't want to get a reputation for being complicate in spreading malware. That would be suicide. 

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If the Google brand name is so powerful why is Apple able to sell 150,00,000 iPhones at $600 a piece?

 

Yet Google struggles to sell 100,000 MotoG phones for $199?

 

This is total BS.  To 99% of the population Google is just a search engine. 

But, but, but they have Google Glass. Google Glass is going to take over the WORLD!!!!     /s  :-)

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And the geek filth legion will bend over backward defending their deity.

Meanwhile, Google's core product, Internet search, has become useless. Seriously, it's substituting words nowhere near what I entered.

This is why Millward has crowned Google the most valuable brand. lol.gif

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Read this article that was written last year.  It talks about the costs of buying a driverless car.

 

Interesting article.

 

 

http://www.theneweconomy.com/insight/google-driverless-cars

They will definitely need to get the costs down. I don't imagine even a wealthy person would much care to pay that much additional to add self-driving capability (it should at least be cheaper than a chauffeur, right?). Thanks for the article link, as you said, it was interesting.

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Google's search utility scans sites and blacklists them as malware, every day. The ads that are presented when a user searches for software, however, is not flagged as malware, even though there are numerous bad download sites that are promoted through google search. Why? 

 

Could it be that paid advertisements are not getting properly flagged since they are prioritized? A website with bad code gets blocked immediately in Google Chrome, then sent back to the blacklist department, and Websense is immediately updated to lock all traffic out of that said website. 

 

This does not happen for advertisements on Google's search engine. Go google a piece of software for yourself, and see the ads of alternate download links that are malicious. It's there every time you search for a piece of software. This is not the work of "hackers".. it's the work of Google allowing ad companies to run malware into their ads. 

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Yes, I did see it coming...

Of course Google will install ads on every screen they operate. That's what Google is FOR!

Just like Facebook, people think Google is for users. It's not. Users are Google's PRODUCT.
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What a "surprise", of course...

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post #75 of 125
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If consumers reject ads on refrigerators and such then I wouldn't expect them to be promoted. Kinda against the point of advertising if it's a turn-off isn't it?

 

You know it's not that simple.  It's all going to come down to levels of tolerance vs. aversion.

 

My new TV was selected on a number of features unrelated to its Internet connectivity.  But after connecting it thusly, I get an ad popup every time I adjust the volume.  That, apparently, is the "price" for being connected.  (And not "promoted" - your word - by the brand, nor mentioned by any salesperson prior to purchase...)

 

As a consumer, do I have options?  Yes: I could choose another make and/or model that doesn't do this.  But another model may not use the same display tech, may not have other characteristics (e.g., reliability) I consider desirable.

 

Just because I choose to keep this TV and use it, doesn't mean I strongly feel that ads suck.  Purchasing this product should not necessarily extrapolate the idea that I have "accepted" ads.

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And the geek filth legion will bend over backward defending their deity.

Meanwhile, Google's core product, Internet search, has become useless. Seriously, it's substituting words nowhere near what I entered.

 

Wait, so you can no longer operate Google search?

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They will definitely need to get the costs down. I don't imagine even a wealthy person would much care to pay that much additional to add self-driving capability (it should at least be cheaper than a chauffeur, right?). Thanks for the article link, as you said, it was interesting.

Those spinning cameras are RIPPING expensive, they would have to embed a ton of cameras around the entire car so you don't this stupid thing on top. What happens when some punk kid screws up your camera by either trying to steal it or throw rocks at it? Oops, you'll have to DRIVE your driverless car and pay money to get it fixed or replaced. 

 

The costs of all of the things to get the pedals/steering wheel are expensive and they can't drive the mfg costs down that much, and then they have to still mark it up.  Then you'll probably have to have the car brought in for higher maintenance costs, etc.

 

There was a university that was using an iPad and it had a bunch of embedded cameras throughout the body and that's still expensive.

 

I think if you look at the average new car costing $30K, they can't bring the cost (to the customer) for less than $5K for everything and still make a profit on the add-on.  Look at what companies charge just for these small safety feature add-ons already that aren't anywhere this level of functionality.  For all of the weird safety stuff that MB charges on their entry level cars costs about $3K for Distronic, Active Blind Spot, Active lane keeping, Pre Safe and Parktronic system.  and that's basic stuff in comparison. The full active system requires a LOT of mechanical things and it costs $$, plus it will most likely require mandated safety checks far above what people have to go through now since there is no driver involved.

 

What I read is that whatever comes of this is that the car mfg will just slowly bring the technology as it makes sense and it's STILL not going to be a major seller since people just won't pay the money to have the feature since it will just simply cost way too much additional money.

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I'm sure the "google fridge" is an entirely Samsung thing just powered by Android. WhyTF would I ever want Google on my fridge? Maybe it'll be part of their competitor to AmazonFresh?
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...going as far as to say that even refrigerators could one day serve Google AdSense to their users.


In addition to refrigerators, Google said it could also serve up ads on car dashboards, thermostats, glasses and watches, "just to name a few possibilities."
I think people are misunderstanding what they are saying here. AdSense works like this: You have a website, you let Google have some space on your page where they place relevant ads, you get paid. I know this because I've been doing it for years. The only way you are going to see AdSense ads on your refrigerator is if it has a browser and you surf the web to some page that has Google AdSense running on it. The ads do not live on the refrigerator unless your refrigerator is also a web server in which case you wouldn't see them, you would just get paid. 

Nope. You're wrong. Since one of the concepts of a "smart fridge" is for it to know what you're running low on, expect to see "hey, you're almost out of Diet Coke - Kroger Home Delivery suggests you try Diet Pepsi - on sale today Just For You (R)"

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And this morning CNBC is hyping Google amassing an overseas war chest to go on a global spending spree. No mention though of how Google wants to throw advertising on anything and everything. Thankfully I don't have to buy any Google products and have ads shoved in my face 24/7.

 

 

He says as his post is automatically tagged with linked ads...


Edited by cornchip - 5/21/14 at 1:37pm
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