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A week after photos of a rumored "iPhone 6" backlight hit the Web, a fresh report on Thursday claims to have snapped the first pictures of the next-generation handset's rear cover, which appears to sport a cut-out Apple logo.


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The latest alleged iPhone 6 hardware leak comes from Australian blog Macfixit, which posted a single photo procured from "a source" in China.

While the part matches up with previous mock-up designs, it does feature something new in what looks to be a cutout in the shape of Apple's logo. With a protective green film obscuring most of the component, however, it's hard to tell whether the logo is actually cut out or merely polished. It's worth noting that the second-generation iPad mini, which some say inspired the iPhone 6 design, was found to have a similar feature when parts for the tablet first leaked in August 2013.

Initial speculation predicted Apple would include an illumination module instead of the usual polished logo, but the company ultimately embedded a shiny piece of metal that is thought to serve as a radio-transparent window. The iPad Air also incorporates the design feature.

Thursday's supposed part leak comes after photos of an LED backlight hit the Web earlier this month. Up to this point, most of the reported "parts leaks" have been mock-ups and dummy models said to be in use by third-party accessory makers looking to get a head start on case production.

Apple is expected to announce a 4.7-inch iPhone -- and possibly a 5.5-inch version -- later this year as part of the company's annual refresh cycle. According to reports, manufacturers are having trouble producing the larger model's battery, which may delay the phablet's launch by more than a month.
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That's one of my least favorite 'features' of the Air. That stupid polished Apple logo is a fingerprint and scratch magnet.
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A lighted logo 😳👍👍!
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So... Plastic?
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No, the protective green film covers a metal part, so the component does not get scratched during the manufacturing process. This is a very common practice in the consumer electronics manufacturing industry.

 

One can see the exposed silver-colored metal where the camera module and purported flash unit would be placed (upper left hand corner).

 

The green film would be removed at final inspection, right before packaging.

 

Apple hardware often receives a final protective clear film that mostly envelopes the entire completed device, meant to be removed by the customer.


Edited by mpantone - 5/29/14 at 6:52pm
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So... Plastic?

 

 

Its metal. The green is a protective layer. 

 

Probably still fake though cause those antenna separations are horrible.

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It looks to me like there may still be a plastic/metal seperation on the top and bottom.
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I really like the true flash of the 5s it looks really different in this picture, i don't see why they wouldn't keep it
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A lighted logo 😳👍👍!

Not likely to happen because it's a pointless use of power.

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A lighted logo 😳👍👍!

Macs use the backlight from the display to show the logo, in iOS devices the batteries are in between the screen and the back casing, meaning to get a lighted logo, they'd need another light source, which is adding bulk and weight to it for no advantage, apple would never do that. They only do it for the macs because it's simply cutting an apple logo out of the shell and the backlight shines through. Hence why the iMacs don't have a shining logo, they have all the internals in the way, between the display and the back casing.

On another note, I cannot believe how ugly the antenna band is. Why is it so thick? And why is there the extra bit around the edge, and not just a line across? Just that little change would make me love the design, but this is really ugly IMO. Such a shame. Hopefully it's better in person.
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A lighted logo 😳👍👍!

Still too thick to make a lighted Apple logo.

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I really like the true flash of the 5s it looks really different in this picture, i don't see why they wouldn't keep it

 

Well, I really like the 4" screen of the 5s, i don't see why they wouldn't keep it

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On another note, I cannot believe how ugly the antenna band is. Why is it so thick? And why is there the extra bit around the edge, and not just a line across? Just that little change would make me love the design, but this is really ugly IMO. Such a shame. Hopefully it's better in person.

 

I don't think the photo shows an antenna band. Where is it?

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I don't think the photo shows an antenna band. Where is it?

Really? The line going across, right under the camera, and another at the bottom. And if you look closely, instead of just a straight thin line, the line is thicker, and you can see it bordering around the bottom and top of the phone. Its in all the mock ups too, but never understood why it's there.
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Not likely to happen because it's a pointless use of power.

 

It wouldn't be pointless if it lit up when the phone was ringing or for when you recieve texts/notifications/emails.  If it stayed lit during use then it'd exist just to bring attention to yourself and that would be a pointless use of power.

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On another note, I cannot believe how ugly the antenna band is. Why is it so thick? And why is there the extra bit around the edge, and not just a line across? Just that little change would make me love the design, but this is really ugly IMO. Such a shame. Hopefully it's better in person.

No, it won't be. Apple will make sure that its design is purposely butt-ugly, so as to piss off people like you. 1rolleyes.gif
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It wouldn't be pointless if it lit up when the phone was ringing or for when you recieve texts/notifications/emails.  If it stayed lit during use then it'd exist just to bring attention to yourself and that would be a pointless use of power.

I agree with your qualified usage but you know you can already do that with the LED light on the back and any case designed for that iPhone will have that area exposed.

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Really? The line going across, right under the camera, and another at the bottom. And if you look closely, instead of just a straight thin line, the line is thicker, and you can see it bordering around the bottom and top of the phone. Its in all the mock ups too, but never understood why it's there.

 

Potatoman is right.

 

Assuming this alleged iPhone 6 design is accurate (that's a big "if"), there will be no metal bezel edge as on the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 series due to the curved edges, more like the unibody shell of the original iPhone or the current iPads. Thus, Apple needs a way to create several discrete antennae. 
 

The top and bottom portions would be cut off from the center of the shell, and gaskets of some sort (plastic, likely) would be inserted as electrical insulators if we assume that this photo is an intermediate state of a particular part.

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Where is the hole for the True Tone Flash? They cant possibly fit two different colored LED’s in that hole for the True Tone Flash.
For the cut out of the Apple Logo however, i think that if the housing for the iPhone 6 is not made of liquid metal (which i would want), then Apple will have to cut a window for NFC capabilities, they are rumored (today actually) to have been in talks for iPhone payment services. This cut out would allow enough of a window for NFC and they could cover the hole back up with the antenna for the NFC just like they did with the OG iPad (they used the Apple logo as the WiFi antenna that was mirror finished). Plus Apple would not use it as a notification LED, that is pointless and a waste of power. 
I still do not believe that this is the back housing for the next iPhone, i think it was made by a 3rd party, if you think about it, no True Tone Flash, unless Apple has something that is better than the True Tone Flash, but i don’t think that they would get rid of it after only 1 year.

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Really? The line going across, right under the camera, and another at the bottom. And if you look closely, instead of just a straight thin line, the line is thicker, and you can see it bordering around the bottom and top of the phone. Its in all the mock ups too, but never understood why it's there.

They seem a little thicker and they actually go all the way around the top section and bottom section, they don't do that on previous iPhones. 

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On another note, I cannot believe how ugly the antenna band is. Why is it so thick? And why is there the extra bit around the edge, and not just a line across? Just that little change would make me love the design, but this is really ugly IMO. Such a shame. Hopefully it's better in person.

 

I suspect that there's a technical/functional reason behind the increased thickness of the antenna separations. Maybe it will also act as a shock absorber and reduce the possibility of breaking the screen if the iPhone 6 is dropped on one of its corners?

 

What if the separation is made from a new RF transparent LiquidMetal alloy? :) (OK maybe not)

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Where is the hole for the True Tone Flash? They cant possibly fit two different colored LED’s in that hole for the True Tone Flash.

The round hole for the flash is conceivable if Apple switched to a three-LED configuration for the flash, maybe two "bright white" LEDs and one "warm white" LED. The total flash power would increase, even if the individual LED emitters were slightly smaller.

 

Just food for thought, this whole thread is purely speculative anyhow.

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I suspect that there's a technical/functional reason behind the increased thickness of the antenna separations. Maybe it will also act as a shock absorber and reduce the possibility of breaking the screen if the iPhone 6 is dropped on one of its corners?

 

What if the separation is made from a new RF transparent LiquidMetal alloy? :) (OK maybe not)

If it was made of LiquidMetal alloy then they wouldn't need something for shock absorption because it is much stronger than the metal that they use on the iPhone 5 and 5S, it will not dent easily. And plus, why would Apple want to help you not break your screen, its the truth, it if makes the phone look ugly which it does then they wouldn't add it, they would want you to have them fix it or replace it. 

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I really like the true flash of the 5s it looks really different in this picture, i don't see why they wouldn't keep it
Oh they likely will, can fit 2 in one spot(like the mic there bigger on 5 then 5S.
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Macs use the backlight from the display to show the logo, in iOS devices the batteries are in between the screen and the back casing, meaning to get a lighted logo, they'd need another light source, which is adding bulk and weight to it for no advantage, apple would never do that. They only do it for the macs because it's simply cutting an apple logo out of the shell and the backlight shines through. Hence why the iMacs don't have a shining logo, they have all the internals in the way, between the display and the back casing.

On another note, I cannot believe how ugly the antenna band is. Why is it so thick? And why is there the extra bit around the edge, and not just a line across? Just that little change would make me love the design, but this is really ugly IMO. Such a shame. Hopefully it's better in person.
there once was a rumor apple could put a hole there of the battery, make rest parts clear(not sure it's possible) and have it be used as 2nd display(if it were shaped that way) simply reflecting threw there upside down

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Well, I really like the 4" screen of the 5s, i don't see why they wouldn't keep it
Agreed, why rather then 5S/C have 6 big, 6 middle, 6 little of the 4,4.7.5.5 inch displays.

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I'm going to weigh in and state I believe this to be real.¡
Not likely to happen because it's a pointless use of power.
yep

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Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post

It wouldn't be pointless if it lit up when the phone was ringing or for when you recieve texts/notifications/emails.  If it stayed lit during use then it'd exist just to bring attention to yourself and that would be a pointless use of power.
Of course attention is marketing but it'd be like the led used already, pointless unless the logo became the true tone leds?

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Where is the hole for the True Tone Flash? They cant possibly fit two different colored LED’s in that hole for the True Tone Flash.
For the cut out of the Apple Logo however, i think that if the housing for the iPhone 6 is not made of liquid metal (which i would want), then Apple will have to cut a window for NFC capabilities, they are rumored (today actually) to have been in talks for iPhone payment services. This cut out would allow enough of a window for NFC and they could cover the hole back up with the antenna for the NFC just like they did with the OG iPad (they used the Apple logo as the WiFi antenna that was mirror finished). Plus Apple would not use it as a notification LED, that is pointless and a waste of power. 
I still do not believe that this is the back housing for the next iPhone, i think it was made by a 3rd party, if you think about it, no True Tone Flash, unless Apple has something that is better than the True Tone Flash, but i don’t think that they would get rid of it after only 1 year.
most defiantly would not, name something apple has gotten rid of from iPhone.
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The round hole for the flash is conceivable if Apple switched to a three-LED configuration for the flash, maybe two "bright white" LEDs and one "warm white" LED. The total flash power would increase, even if the individual LED emitters were slightly smaller.

 

Just food for thought, this whole thread is purely speculative anyhow.

If you mean 3 different LED's in that one hole i still do not think so, as a repair tech, the LED's Apple uses for the flash requires two different spots for the light to blend together correctly. And plus the emitters aren't small enough to fit in that one hole. I just don't see it. 

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If the logo were cut out, then the protective green tape would be cut back too like you see around the camera and flash cut outs in order for the manufacturing step of adding the insert to be accomplished.  But it's not cut back; the tape goes right over the obviously black Apple logo.  What nobody else here mentioned among other good points about energy waste is that many people put their iPhone in a protective case which would cover the logo, unless we believe Apple will also proscribe that case manufacturers add a cut out to their cases.  This would still leave the issue of the user's hand covering the logo.

 

and yet, after zooming in on the damn thing, it sure does appear that the tape is covering a logo-shaped cutout and that the light, coming from the top right is casting a shadow through the semi-translucency tape onto the underlying surface.  What the heck? 


Edited by RadarTheKat - 5/29/14 at 8:25pm
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The assumption that the Apple logo is cut out is just plain wrong.  If it were cut out, then the protective green tape would be cut back too like you see around the camera and flash cut outs in order for the manufacturing step of adding the insert to be accomplished.  But it's not cut back; the tape goes right over the obviously black Apple logo.  The semi-translucence of the tape with the light source from above creates some haze over what is a pure black logo, causing some to believe they are looking at the shadow created by a hole.  But it simply isn;t cut out.  And what nobody else here mentioned among other good points about energy waste is that many people put their iPhone in a protective case which would cover the logo, unless we believe Apple will also proscribe that case manufacturers add a cut out to their cases.  This would still leave the issue of the user's hand covering the logo.  See, it simply makes zero sense and therefore Apple will not go this route.

It looks cut out to me. When I zoom in I see what looks like a shadow cast on the righthand side to the surface below. I can see the reflection for the bite out of the apple and leaf.

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If it was made of LiquidMetal alloy then they wouldn't need something for shock absorption because it is much stronger than the metal that they use on the iPhone 5 and 5S, it will not dent easily. And plus, why would Apple want to help you not break your screen, its the truth, it if makes the phone look ugly which it does then they wouldn't add it, they would want you to have them fix it or replace it. 

 

I'm pretty sure every single design consideration for the phone was made for extremely good reasons - I suggest you don't second guess these decisions when you dont have any info behind them, especially when you have no clue if this is even the final design. 

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If it was made of LiquidMetal alloy then they wouldn't need something for shock absorption because it is much stronger than the metal that they use on the iPhone 5 and 5S, it will not dent easily. And plus, why would Apple want to help you not break your screen, its the truth, it if makes the phone look ugly which it does then they wouldn't add it, they would want you to have them fix it or replace it. 

I was joking about the LiquidMetal, hence the smiley. 

 

This idea that we've all heard that Apple makes its products easy to break on purpose, is exactly why making the iPhone 6 more resistant to breaking would be a great selling point.

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The assumption that the Apple logo is cut out is just plain wrong.  If it were cut out, then the protective green tape would be cut back too like you see around the camera and flash cut outs in order for the manufacturing step of adding the insert to be accomplished.  But it's not cut back; the tape goes right over the obviously black Apple logo.  The semi-translucence of the tape with the light source from above creates some haze over what is a pure black logo, causing some to believe they are looking at the shadow created by a hole.  But it simply isn;t cut out.  And what nobody else here mentioned among other good points about energy waste is that many people put their iPhone in a protective case which would cover the logo, unless we believe Apple will also proscribe that case manufacturers add a cut out to their cases.  This would still leave the issue of the user's hand covering the logo.  See, it simply makes zero sense and therefore Apple will not go this route.

There is definitely a cut out of the Apple Logo, you see the shadow of the cut out to the left of it if you look at it close enough. If Apple plans to use NFC they must have an opening to accomplish this unless they use Liquid Metal which allows for radio waves to pass though almost unaffected, case makers don't have to worry about covering the NFC antenna up unless they use metal in the back of there case. 

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First thought.

 

Second thought.

 

Originally Posted by atokosch View Post
Where is the hole for the True Tone Flash? They cant possibly fit two different colored LED’s in that hole for the True Tone Flash.

 

What’s so difficult to comprehend about a dual-temperature LED?

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They only do it for the macs because it's simply cutting an apple logo out of the shell and the backlight shines through. Hence why the iMacs don't have a shining logo, they have all the internals in the way, between the display and the back casing.

Laptops always are seen from the back in most cases. And your point of using the backlight means no extra power drain.....iMacs are more than likely to be up against the wall anyways...so what would be the purpose to light up the logo. Also power would never be an issue since its plugged in the wall all the time.

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If you mean 3 different LED's in that one hole i still do not think so, as a repair tech, the LED's Apple uses for the flash requires two different spots for the light to blend together correctly. And plus the emitters aren't small enough to fit in that one hole. I just don't see it. 

I dunno.

 

The True Tone flash in the iPhone 5s contains two LEDs in one opening. Plus, the effective range of a cellphone flash is rather limited working distance so the LEDs don't really need to be carefully focused.

 

As mentioned above, there's also the possibility of a multi-temperature LED. That would maximize LED power, since you aren't turning off/reducing one emitter in given situations. 

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And what nobody else here mentioned among other good points about energy waste is that many people put their iPhone in a protective case which would cover the logo, unless we believe Apple will also proscribe that case manufacturers add a cut out to their cases.  This would still leave the issue of the user's hand covering the logo.  See, it simply makes zero sense and therefore Apple will not go this route.

Options of cases with and without holes exist today for the current iPhones. And your point of the user hand covering up the logo while using....

Hmmm the Apple logo appears to be smaller than the current size. And much higher up. So you hand wouldn't directly cover it up as that photo shows. Plus remember the iPhone 6 is a bigger Phone, hence more area to show while using it. I say it will be lighted up.

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Not a fan of the new design as seen thus far here and on Sonny Dickson's page.

I'm sure its wonderfully thing and light, but its lines seem quite uninspired.
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On another note, I cannot believe how ugly the antenna band is. Why is it so thick? And why is there the extra bit around the edge, and not just a line across? Just that little change would make me love the design, but this is really ugly IMO. Such a shame. Hopefully it's better in person.
No one complains about the antenna band on the HTC One and it is similar in design. Also most people I know put their phones in a case and so no one will see them.
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Originally Posted by DimMok View Post
Hmmm the Apple logo appears to be smaller than the current size. And much higher up. So you hand wouldn't directly cover it up as that photo shows. Plus remember the iPhone 6 is a bigger Phone, hence more area to show while using it. I say it will be lighted up.

 

Here’s a comparison of this thing and the 5S with the Apple logo at the same size.

Same comparison but corners matching to better show size difference.

So obviously the logo is smaller. Or this is fake.

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So obviously the logo is smaller. Or this is fake.

Or it's a larger device and they kept the logo size the same.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
Or it's a larger device and they kept the logo size the same.

 

What, the first image of the mythical 5.5” device, then?

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Where is the hole for the True Tone Flash? They cant possibly fit two different colored LED’s in that hole for the True Tone Flash.
For the cut out of the Apple Logo however, i think that if the housing for the iPhone 6 is not made of liquid metal (which i would want), then Apple will have to cut a window for NFC capabilities, they are rumored (today actually) to have been in talks for iPhone payment services. This cut out would allow enough of a window for NFC and they could cover the hole back up with the antenna for the NFC just like they did with the OG iPad (they used the Apple logo as the WiFi antenna that was mirror finished). Plus Apple would not use it as a notification LED, that is pointless and a waste of power. 
I still do not believe that this is the back housing for the next iPhone, i think it was made by a 3rd party, if you think about it, no True Tone Flash, unless Apple has something that is better than the True Tone Flash, but i don’t think that they would get rid of it after only 1 year.
True tone is just for more natural light exposure in the dark, personally what is like to see from the iPhone 6 is a MacBook style light up Apple logo and these round corners but with those weird white strips to be relocated but the think is Apple would never move the sleep/wake button to the side.
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