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post #41 of 95

Yes, It was a big surprise, to some, that Apple did not deliver anything of substance at WWDC. One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems. Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look. Apple was much better when they cared about the computer and not the iPhones and iPads. No Mac mini update for almost 2 years. No "new" products as advertised. Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products. Why don't Apple just not do anything with the computers anymore, just the mobile devices. Forgive me people, but I do not believe a thing Apple says anymore. They just lie.  

post #42 of 95
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Yes, It was a big surprise, to some, that Apple did not deliver anything of substance at WWDC. One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems. Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look. Apple was much better when they cared about the computer and not the iPhones and iPads. No Mac mini update for almost 2 years. No "new" products as advertised. Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products. Why don't Apple just not do anything with the computers anymore, just the mobile devices. Forgive me people, but I do not believe a thing Apple says anymore. They just lie.  

Dumbest post of the day!
post #43 of 95
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Originally Posted by rob53 View Post
 

from Google search to Microsoft Bing search, at least per a very good article on electronista through macnn, "Analysis: Apple launches total war against Android"

 

I have no problem whatsoever with this change in search vendor. Let Apple grab the search results from someone else and present them in a more meaningful way (sans ads).

 

I get so much better results out of Google though. I try Bing for a day every few months, but I think that Google knows enough about me that I find what I'm looking for a bit faster most of the time.

post #44 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post
 

Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. 

 

Because it's a retarded idea, that's why.

 

You should use Windows. Apple is clearly not for you or your type.

 

I also don't trust people who sign up just to whine in their first post.

post #45 of 95
Perhaps the biggest surprise was the selling of refurbished Beats.
Gross.
 
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post #46 of 95
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Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

Perhaps the biggest surprise was the selling of refurbished Beats.
Gross.

 

Dude, I've been critical of the Beats deal also, but you're just spouting nonsense right now, because if you're talking about the deals that were posted on this site yesterday, then those refurbished Beats headphones have nothing to do with Apple at all. They're being sold by a third party seller.

post #47 of 95
Who cares? It's a WWDC deal, Dude.
 
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post #48 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

Yes, It was a big surprise, to some, that Apple did not deliver anything of substance at WWDC. One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems. Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look. Apple was much better when they cared about the computer and not the iPhones and iPads. No Mac mini update for almost 2 years. No "new" products as advertised. Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products. Why don't Apple just not do anything with the computers anymore, just the mobile devices. Forgive me people, but I do not believe a thing Apple says anymore. They just lie.  

Apple focuses on mobile devices because that's where they make their money. They aren't in business to win the jumpcutter award for best business.
post #49 of 95
Surprise, we cleaned the house and did the grocery shopping! (Yawn).

Nothing new, nothing interesting, nothing ready for months.
post #50 of 95
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Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

Perhaps the biggest surprise was the selling of refurbished Beats.
Gross.

Groan. You're back with your drivel.....

post #51 of 95
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Originally Posted by manfrommars View Post

Surprise, we cleaned the house and did the grocery shopping! (Yawn).

Nothing new, nothing interesting, nothing ready for months.

Looks like you will have a lot of groceries (and VERY clean house).

post #52 of 95
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Dumbest post of the day!

Give him time...the day isn't over yet!

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post #53 of 95
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post


listening to all these financial analysts on Bloomberg and CNBC is hilarious! It's almost like they're reading from the same script. All of them disappointed because no new hardware was announced yesterday. All of them saying that hardware is more important to Apple than software is. Even though a lot of these clowns are the same ones claiming Apple is doomed because they're too much of a hardware company. 1rolleyes.gif

What I'm getting a kick out of though are the butt hurt Apple bloggers annoyed because their leaks/predictions were inaccurate. Mark Gurman actually tweeted that he thinks Apple changes the name and UI for their health app because of the things he leaked. He's just pissed because what he leaked turned out to be wrong. What's sad though is all the attention he's getting as though he's an authority on all things Apple. He was on Twit last night and was decidedly 'meh' on everything Apple announced saying that all it's doing is catching them up to where Android already is. Again he was just butt hurt because he didn't have the inside scoop on a lot of the things Apple did announce yesterday. He had nothing on 3rd party keyboards, inter app communications, opening up Touch ID to 3rd parties, new programming language. He had none of that. And he predicted hardware announcements which we didn't get. And just as I'm typing this I see he's going to be a guest on CNBC this morning. Sigh. 1rolleyes.gif

I would love to have a job and get paid to spew b.s. all day long. I'm so sick of these stupid analysts. I wonder what happened to that idiot who said Apple will be out of business if they don't release an iWatch in the next 60 days? These analysts have no clue. It's the great software and integration between devices that makes Apple's hardware a huge step above everyone else. I know some of the new iOS features have been available on Android, but what Apple releases is far superior. It's not about Apple catching up, its about Apple polishing features and not rushing to release just for the specs like you see on Android. If these analysts were running Apple, the company would be in bankruptcy protection right now. 

post #54 of 95
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Originally Posted by poksi View Post

Extensions, Integration of OS X and iOS, iCloud Drive, Enterprise, HomeKit, Touch ID API, HealthKit, Spotlight, beautiful new OS X (iOS should go this road, too!), .... and Swift!

It was overwhelming!

Best WWDC in 12 years!

Gotta agree. This was an amazing presentation with a jaw dropping rollout of features, new and refurbished. Some more useful than others, of course. The ability to begin an email on one device and complete it on another seems gimmicky, to me, but the auto hotspot, the ability to answer and place calls directly from any device, the new messaging features, the new Spotlight etc are potentially truly great features. 

 

I pray the implementation will be as smooth as the presentation!

post #55 of 95
One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems.

 

Telling everyone about the OS’ is a “smokescreen”?

 
Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1.

 

Because they’re not morons.

 
They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look.


Oh, I see. They LOOK the same. Well, that settles it. That MUST mean they’re identical.

 
No "new" products as advertised.

 

New products were not advertised. New products were not rumored. Take your FUD and shove it.

 
Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products.

 

This is not happening. Stop being a liar.

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post #56 of 95
Predictions end up wrong but not totally wrong. And hopefully when Apple releases it's hardware later in the year we'll see more favorable surprises
post #57 of 95
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

Apple should tell Yahoo if they ever want to do deep integration with iOS they need to clean up their anti-Apple drivel. Go to Yahoo Finance any day of the week and there is a hit piece on Apple. I just went there this morning to see how Apple stock was doing and I come across this stupid article from some CNNMoney contributor. 1rolleyes.gif

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/external/cnnm/SIG=12pgutk29/*http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/03/technology/mobile/apple-wwdc-android-windows/index.html?source=yahoo_quote

It may be market drivel, but I don't know that Internet news should be "curated" like that. The last thing you want is for Yahoo! or Apple is to turn their financial new wire into a marketing or PR-approved channel. If it was noticeably uncritical of Apple (or Yahoo!) it could lose credibility for being a biased news source. Unfortunately, legit news sources invite bloggers and muck rakers to post drivel on their site, because like any business, they need to drive readership. So it's unavoidable.

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post #58 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

Yes, It was a big surprise, to some, that Apple did not deliver anything of substance at WWDC. One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems. Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look. Apple was much better when they cared about the computer and not the iPhones and iPads. No Mac mini update for almost 2 years. No "new" products as advertised. Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products. Why don't Apple just not do anything with the computers anymore, just the mobile devices. Forgive me people, but I do not believe a thing Apple says anymore. They just lie.  

Are you personally waiting for a new Mac mini, or was it convenient target for your rant?

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post #59 of 95
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post
 

Apple is like a fine wine. All in good time....

 

Looks like the market is finally getting it.

 

After consuming the vintage wine, I want to take the empty bottle and bash Google over the head with it. Metaphorically.

post #60 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post
 

Yes, It was a big surprise, to some, that Apple did not deliver anything of substance at WWDC. One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems. Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look. Apple was much better when they cared about the computer and not the iPhones and iPads. No Mac mini update for almost 2 years. No "new" products as advertised. Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products. Why don't Apple just not do anything with the computers anymore, just the mobile devices. Forgive me people, but I do not believe a thing Apple says anymore. They just lie.  

 

Bye Bye!

post #61 of 95
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Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

Perhaps the biggest surprise was the selling of refurbished Beats.
Gross.

The Apple Stores sell lots of non-gross things. Funny you should focus on that. Almost like you were picking out an item to troll about. 1wink.gif

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post #62 of 95
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post
He was on Twit last night and was decidedly 'meh' on everything Apple announced saying that all it's doing is catching them up to where Android already is.

 

If we only look at the revealed features where iOS was gaining feature parity with Android, while ignoring that iOS will have those features in a far more secure manner, and also ignore all the ways iOS (and OSX related features, through continuity) leapfrogs Android, then all Apple would have done is achieved feature parity.

 

That's pretty much the attitude I am seeing from the reflexively anti-Apple people at this point.

post #63 of 95
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Virtually every significant new iOS and OS X feature that Apple unveiled and subsequently detailed on its website was a real surprise, while nearly every WWDC rumor ended up being wrong or significantly off the mark.

 

Would be nice if DED actually provided examples of these errant "nearly every" rumors that he cites. A large cross-section of the tech press had already written about the iOS health and home platforms, and predicted tighter integration between iOS and OS X. Yes, some articles I saw were off by a lot (namely the articles that predicted hardware debuts), and there were indeed some major surprises that I did not see anybody write about (namely Swift and third party extensions).

 

But, that's all par for the course. Recall that only a small handful of writers last summer predicted that the iPhone 5s (and iOS 7 and all the preloaded Apple apps) would go 64-bit. And nobody saw the Mac Pro coming.

 

If anything, the tech press just wants shiny objects, spec sheets, and feature lists. They're too lazy and myopic to note the long-term significance of updated developer tools, and new APIs (including extended cloud integration). Note how much of the reaction focused on  iOS 8 "copying" features from Android. Just more of the same lazy feature checklist lineups that tech reviewers have used since the early-80s as the basis for their conclusions.

 

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In fact, the only thing that seemed to quell developers' WWDC excitement had to be the marginally dismal lunch provided by Moscone Center's caterer. Even so, despite the variety of new food options that have opened in close proximity to the convention venue

While I generally like DED's point-of-view, he can be his own worst enemy with this kind of pettiness. He lives in SF and knows about the newer eateries around Moscone Center, yet he still chose to eat lunch on-site.

post #64 of 95
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Originally Posted by blackbook View Post

Another thing I loved about WWDC was the focus on spotlight.

With Spotlight's web search feature Apple is going to shift hundreds of millions of iOS and Mac customers away from google search.

Genius.
Most definitely, looks like you could replace your browsers search engine with just it.
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Yep. And also notice when Craig was talking about HomeKit no mention of Nest as one of the partners Apple was working with. If Apple can get the big players on board and communicate to customers that they don't have to worry about privacy with Apple, that's a HUGE win.
I thought nest was on the list of company's.
post #65 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

Yes, It was a big surprise, to some, that Apple did not deliver anything of substance at WWDC. One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems. Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look. Apple was much better when they cared about the computer and not the iPhones and iPads. No Mac mini update for almost 2 years. No "new" products as advertised. Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products. Why don't Apple just not do anything with the computers anymore, just the mobile devices. Forgive me people, but I do not believe a thing Apple says anymore. They just lie.  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cook: Eddie, I need you to go door knocking. Nothing is selling anymore. This is a mission only you can handle.
Cue: Ok, boss, what am I selling?
Cook: This.
Cue: Um, I can't see anything?
Cook: That's the genius. It doesn't even exist.
Cue: Tim, I don't have anything to do with devices anyway. Shouldn't you just release a new Mac mini?
Cook: No. That's what everyone expects. I need you to go out and promote nonexistent products.
Cue: Won't this look suspicious, though?
Cook: I've already got the perfect smokescreen. We're going to release the biggest updates to both our OS's ever. In all the commotion no one will realise that we've made flat icons and our operating systems are exactly the same and that my apostrophe,s are actually commas.
Cue: This is ridiculous.
Cook: **** off then, I'll just get Dre to it. Jesus Christ.

I bet none of that will be funny when I read it tomorrow. I need to get a journal...
post #66 of 95
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

I don't know that you could say it was the result of Apple doubling down on secrecy. This successful unveiling probably had more to do with the fact they do their software development behind locked doors in Cupertino rather than a supply chain factory in China.

 

and what do you think keeps those thousands of workers in Cupertino quiet? wait for it.....secrecy. 

post #67 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post
 

One big smoke screen involving the 2 operating systems. Why don,t Apple just merge the two systems into 1. They basically look the same with the flat Johnny Ive simple look. Apple was much better when they cared about the computer and not the iPhones and iPads. No Mac mini update for almost 2 years. No "new" products as advertised. Tim Cook is sending Eddy Cue out to promote these non existent products. Why don't Apple just not do anything with the computers anymore, just the mobile devices. Forgive me people, but I do not believe a thing Apple says anymore. They just lie.  

 

theyve already said, publicly, that merging the two OSes is a stupid idea. guess you werent paying attention. please see the failure of Windows 8. 

 

as for focusing on idevices over mac -- they make tenfold on idevices than macs. thats a fact....PC sales are declining, mobile devices are increasing. you focus on where the customers are.

post #68 of 95
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Originally Posted by NolaMacGuy View Post

theyve already said, publicly, that merging the two OSes is a stupid idea. guess you werent paying attention. please see the failure of Windows 8. 

as for focusing on idevices over mac -- they make tenfold on idevices than macs. thats a fact....PC sales are declining, mobile devices are increasing. you focus on where the customers are.

Lol instead of " merging them" they are just turning them both into the same thing. Macs already use an App Store and looks more and more like iOS with each update. They're just doing what Microsoft is doing in a different way under your nose.
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Originally Posted by Shogun View Post

Keeping software secret should be trivial for Apple. Any software inklings we get (e.g. Healthbook) are controlled leaks by the powers that be. Keeping hardware secret is a very different story.

I wouldn't say those things are controlled leaks. Just like hardware, HealthKit and HomeKit were both things that Apple had to reach out to 3rd parties for buy in. Unfortunately those 3rd parties are as leaky as some of Apples hardware partners.

-PopinFRESH
post #70 of 95

Okay Everyone,

   You do not agree with my opinion...Cool. Tell me why in a constructive manner. I've been using Apple products for a least 15 years now and I do not like the way Apple is doing business. You can laugh or curse at me all you want but my opinion is not based on my "jumpcutter" award merits. Eddy Cue was interviewed by Walt Mossberg on May 28th in a live blog from the Verge. "Later this year, we've got the best product pipeline that I've seen in my 25 years at Apple" Eddy Cue stated. 

So my fellow Apple fanatics, I am not a liar. You may disagree and that is different. Eddy Cue did say this.

I was not waiting for a Mac mini exclusively, but that computer has not been updated in almost 2 years. It was just an example. Not as bad as the Mac Pro last year but close. It was rumored a low cost iMac was coming as well but Noooo. Okay. It appears when Apple updates lately, they seem to do a partial job. Apple updated the Macbook Air recently, Why just the processors and not TB2. Same thing with the iMac updates before that  (last year September??) no TB2 ports. When they updated the Macbook Pro last year, TB2 was added. Why? It appears that Apple does not have a clear vision for these computers, or it is just beyond the clouds.

When I said they should merge the two OS's I meant that as a joke. The platforms are getting to look similar to me. They both have that flat look. The John Ive Look. I am sure if Apple could they would but the different screen resolutions is just one problem.

I believe these forums are for honest and frank exchanges of ideas and opinions not bashing their words. Ask me to explain if you do not agree.


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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

Okay Everyone,
   You do not agree with my opinion...Cool. Tell me why in a constructive manner. I've been using Apple products for a least 15 years now and I do not like the way Apple is doing business. You can laugh or curse at me all you want but my opinion is not based on my "jumpcutter" award merits. Eddy Cue was interviewed by Walt Mossberg on May 28th in a live blog from the Verge. 
"Later this year, we've got the best product pipeline that I've seen in my 25 years at Apple" Eddy Cue stated. 

So my fellow Apple fanatics, I am not a liar. You may disagree and that is different. Eddy Cue did say this.
I was not waiting for a Mac mini exclusively, but that computer has not been updated in almost 2 years. It was just an example. Not as bad as the Mac Pro last year but close. It was rumored a low cost iMac was coming as well but Noooo. Okay. It appears when Apple updates lately, they seem to do a partial job. Appple updated the Macbook Air recently, Why just the processors and not TB2. Same thing with the iMac updates before that  (last year September??) no TB2 ports. When they updated the Macbook Pro last year, TB2 was added. Why? It appears that Apple does not have a clear vision for these computers, or it is just beyond the clouds.
I believe these forums are for honest and frank exchanges of ideas and opinions not bashing their words. Ask me to explain if you do not agree.

We all know what Eddy said. Nobody is denying that, but calling him a liar when the year isn't even half over yet is unjust and ridiculous in the extreme. Nobody with any sense expects anything until September or October.

Why should Apple care about the Mac? They don't make any money off it. They would probably be better off scrapping the entire line and focusing on iOS and other projects.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Mac and I would lose my mind if that happens, but to say Apple is losing focus because they aren't focusing on a product that doesn't make them much money is bullshit.
post #72 of 95

Apple does not make any money off the Mac is not true. All the PC companies are losing market share except for Apple. Tim Cook has claimed that their market  share is improving despite the low sales. Diversification is the key. Be in computers, iPhone and iPad but do not forget what made your company. All I have to say is Do Not Forget Blackberry.

post #73 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

Okay Everyone,
   You do not agree with my opinion...Cool. Tell me why in a constructive manner. I've been using Apple products for a least 15 years now and I do not like the way Apple is doing business. You can laugh or curse at me all you want but my opinion is not based on my "jumpcutter" award merits. Eddy Cue was interviewed by Walt Mossberg on May 28th in a live blog from the Verge. 
"Later this year, we've got the best product pipeline that I've seen in my 25 years at Apple" Eddy Cue stated. 

So my fellow Apple fanatics, I am not a liar. You may disagree and that is different. Eddy Cue did say this.
I was not waiting for a Mac mini exclusively, but that computer has not been updated in almost 2 years. It was just an example. Not as bad as the Mac Pro last year but close. It was rumored a low cost iMac was coming as well but Noooo. Okay. It appears when Apple updates lately, they seem to do a partial job. Apple updated the Macbook Air recently, Why just the processors and not TB2. Same thing with the iMac updates before that  (last year September??) no TB2 ports. When they updated the Macbook Pro last year, TB2 was added. Why? It appears that Apple does not have a clear vision for these computers, or it is just beyond the clouds.

Look at a fucking calendar. There are twelve months in a year and we haven't hit the halfway mark.

Apple has a clear vision. How many consumer-level accessories are TB2?
post #74 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

Apple does not make any money off the Mac is not true. All the PC companies are losing market share except for Apple. Tim Cook has claimed that their market  share is improving despite the low sales. Diversification is the key. Be in computers, iPhone and iPad but do not forget what made your company. All I have to say is Do Not Forget Blackberry.

I never said Apple is losing money on the Mac. What I said was the profits on the Mac are insignificant compared to iOS. Given this, I don't follow your reasoning for Apple being worse off for not devoting it's full attention to OSX.

Blackberry went down the tubes because they refused to adapt and stuck with an outdated product. This seems to me to be exactly what you want Apple to do.
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Look at a fucking calendar. There are twelve months in a year and we haven't hit the halfway mark.

Apple has a clear vision. How many consumer-level accessories are TB2?

What is your problem? Why did Apple make it a point with the Mac Pro? Is it because of 4K or what? All I asked was the question. So Thanks for your "fucking" answer. You are a real winner.

post #76 of 95
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Originally Posted by iaeen View Post


We all know what Eddy said. Nobody is denying that, but calling him a liar when the year isn't even half over yet is unjust and ridiculous in the extreme. Nobody with any sense expects anything until September or October.

Why should Apple care about the Mac? They don't make any money off it. They would probably be better off scrapping the entire line and focusing on iOS and other projects.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Mac and I would lose my mind if that happens, but to say Apple is losing focus because they aren't focusing on a product that doesn't make them much money is bullshit.

That is exactly what you are implying. 

post #77 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

What is your problem? Why did Apple make it a point with the Mac Pro? Is it because of 4K or what? All I asked was the question. So Thanks for your "fucking" answer. You are a real winner.

No you didn't just ask a question. You accused Apple and Eddie of lying and betraying your trust. This was, as I have pointed out, unjust and absurd. If you are going to act like an asshole, don't be surprised when others treat you like an asshole.
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

That is exactly what you are implying. 

What part of what I said was unclear?
post #79 of 95
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Originally Posted by jumpcutter View Post

What is your problem? Why did Apple make it a point with the Mac Pro? Is it because of 4K or what? All I asked was the question. So Thanks for your "fucking" answer. You are a real winner.

You're kidding me, right? The Mac Pro is a professional grade machine.

It's whiners like you that complain Apple hasn't released stuff like they "promised." Apple has maintained products will be released through 2014. It's five+ months into the year. Wait until Nov to complain if they haven't released a thing.
post #80 of 95

Why should Apple care about the Mac? They don't make any money off it. They would probably be better off scrapping the entire line and focusing on iOS and other projects.

 

That was your quote.  

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