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iOS 8 ups chances of recovering lost or stolen iPhone with 'Send Last Location' feature

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A new feature added to iCloud's Find My iPhone in iOS 8 passes along an iPhone or iPad's geolocation data to Apple just before its battery completely dies, boosting the chances of finding the device.



Appropriately called "Send Last Location," the new capability will automatically send an iOS device's last known location to Apple when its battery drains to a predetermined point, giving owners one last chance to find it before it disappears from the grid.

At this stage, the threshold at which location data is sent and stored is unknown, but the current iCloud standard is to log a device's last known location for 24 hours. The extra time could be vital in finding a stolen iPhone or iPad.

Existing protection assets already allow users to track, send messages to, lock and wipe a lost or stolen device via iCloud. These features can be thwarted to some extent by turning the iPhone off and isolating it from a data connection, but a thief must break a user's passcode to gain functional access to the device.

It is unknown how the "Send Last Location" system will work when iOS 8 is released this fall, though it can be speculated that Apple will store a device's last known whereabouts and possibly make that information available to the user through the Find My iPhone tool. While the feature's toggle switch can be activated in the iOS 8 beta, the corresponding service may not yet be up and running.
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Any word on a "Passcode Required to Power Off" setting? 

 

When I steal someone's iPhone, the first thing I do is power it down. With this feature, my business would be crippled. 

 

Regards, 

iPhone Thief*

 

*I am joking about being an iPhone Thief. 

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Any word on a "Passcode Required to Power Off" setting? 

When I steal someone's iPhone, the first thing I do is power it down. With this feature, my business would be crippled. 

Regards, 
iPhone Thief*

*I am joking about being an iPhone Thief. 

Touch ID would be good for this

Slide to power off or inserting a SIM removal tool could also be used as a trigger to fire off a location .
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post #4 of 25
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Any word on a "Passcode Required to Power Off" setting? 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
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Anyword of having it take a picture of the thief? Tracking its location is nice but when you can just give a photo to the police its makes the process SO much easier.

post #6 of 25
This would be great for being turned off at all, turn iPhone off is first thought of a stolen device as well maybe passcode feature as well.
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I had no idea one could leave apple feedback , it will be interesting to see how you can twin access to the last known location . If they do turn it off though even with a full battery hopefully find my iPhone has a quick response time to locating the device once powered on and notifying you when it is found .
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If only some of the passengers on MH370 had an iOS 8 beta ...

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I had no idea one could leave apple feedback

Yes.

 

Customer feedback methods have existed long before Yelp.

 

Pretty much any commercial endeavor will allow for some sort of feedback mechanism, whether it be a comment box, a slip of paper handed to an employee, talking to a manager, a letter to the owner, etc.

 

Apple being a Fortune 500 company has nice forms on their website which helps efficiently route messages to the right person in a large organization, but if you're just dealing with some app developer working by him/herself, you can just send an e-mail. Sites like Yahoo and Google typically have a "Feedback" link somewhere on every single page (on Yahoo it is the lower right hand corner).

 

You know, you could probably mail a hand-written letter to "Apple Inc., Attn: Tim Cook or iPhone Engineering Manager, 1 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA 95014" and it would eventually reach the right person.

 

Good companies welcome feedback, particularly constructive criticism, as it helps them build better products and services.

 

If you ever decide run a business, you should consider listening to your clientele.


Edited by mpantone - 6/3/14 at 10:11pm
post #10 of 25
When it's about to run out of power? So every couple of hours or so?
post #11 of 25
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If only some of the passengers on MH370 had an iOS 8 beta ...
Then their last known position would have registered a mile or so from the airport when they left cell tower range?
That would be useful how?
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Then their last known position would have registered a mile or so from the airport when they left cell tower range?
That would be useful how?

Good old pedantry - always makes a simple off-colour joke better.

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If you ever decide run a business, you should consider listening to your clientele.

What an idiotic idea

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post #14 of 25
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If only some of the passengers on MH370 had an iOS 8 beta ...

YOU have a waterproof iPhone ? News to me. :-)

post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post

Any word on a "Passcode Required to Power Off" setting? 

When I steal someone's iPhone, the first thing I do is power it down. With this feature, my business would be crippled. 

Regards, 
iPhone Thief*

*I am joking about being an iPhone Thief. 
This is Something I've been submitting to apple for feedback every year since "find my iPhone" was introduced.

In one thread I actually had some
People questioning the need of this feature. SMH

Don't know why they can't implement this as It would make an awesome addition and finally make find my iPhone a force to be reckoned with.

We're gonna stop you one day iPhone thief!
post #16 of 25
fix the 24 hour thing and I would be happy.
In the last few months, I have had to try locate 2 lost iPhone, one stolen and one actually lost.
Both had find my iPhone on. Going into the app or iCloud account about 6 hours later and it just shows 'Location not available'

Last known location not available at all.

same happens in Find my friends, although that could be designed that way as it shouldn't show you where they wed 24 hours ago.

must leave feedback%u2026.
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This is Something I've been submitting to apple for feedback every year since "find my iPhone" was introduced.

In one thread I actually had some
People questioning the need of this feature. SMH

Don't know why they can't implement this as It would make an awesome addition and finally make find my iPhone a force to be reckoned with.

We're gonna stop you one day iPhone thief!

It certainly makes sense to give users the option to require a passcode to power down.  Seems like a trivially easy addition to make (with it off by default).

 

On the other hand, I have no doubt that thieves would get around this with a easy, low-tech solution (like tossing stolen phones in a RF-opaque container until the battery dies).

post #18 of 25
Wouldn't this feature be more for situations where the owner loses the phone rather than theft? When the battery runs out you can't use findMyiPhone so it's useful to know where the phone was (at friends house, Starbucks, whatever) when it died. I would think the first thing a thief would do would be to pop out the SIM so this feature would be pretty useless for theft, IMO.
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If only some of the passengers on MH370 had an iOS 8 beta ...

In order to send transmissions on the island of Lost, you have to be far out on a boat. So, it would only work if it ran out of power while they were on a boat.*

* too soon for MH370 jokes?

* too soon to make Lost jokes?

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In order to send transmissions on the island of Lost, you have to be far out on a boat. So, it would only work if it ran out of power while they were on a boat.*
* too soon for MH370 jokes?
* too soon to make Lost jokes?

Was the island every named? I seem to recall only hearing The Island to refer to the main island and Hydra to refer to the smaller island. It was inhabited by many older cultures so it could have had many names but I don't recall if any were mentioned.

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In order to send transmissions on the island of Lost, you have to be far out on a boat. So, it would only work if it ran out of power while they were on a boat.*

* too soon for MH370 jokes?

* too soon to make Lost jokes?

It's never too soon for a good joke.  And besides there were almost no Americans on board flight whatever-it-was so it's just an intellectual puzzler.

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Wouldn't this feature be more for situations where the owner loses the phone rather than theft? When the battery runs out you can't use findMyiPhone so it's useful to know where the phone was (at friends house, Starbucks, whatever) when it died. I would think the first thing a thief would do would be to pop out the SIM so this feature would be pretty useless for theft, IMO.

Exactly.  I replaced my daughter's iPod touch when we thought she had lost it on vacation.  Months later we found it in the car.  (The "good news" is that when she broke the screen on the new one, we had a ready backup.)

post #23 of 25
With a jailbreak you can do so much with security features on the iphone. Such as a fingerprint being required to power fown your device, a photo of the thief being taken once a wrong passcode is entered. Fingerpint required ro even open up your apps!! Endless posibilities. CHECK YOUR FIRMWARE!!! If your running ios 7 and have version 7-7.0.6 JAILBREAK!!! And stop waiting on apple to update security features. If your 7.1 or higher, then you have to wait for a JB. It will be out soon. That is, of course if you want better security features on your device
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It certainly makes sense to give users the option to require a passcode to power down.  Seems like a trivially easy addition to make (with it off by default).

On the other hand, I have no doubt that thieves would get around this with a easy, low-tech solution (like tossing stolen phones in a RF-opaque container until the battery dies).

You're absolutely right....there will always be a way around it and I have thought about that.

But that would only count with career criminals. What it would cut down on tremendously is the opportunity thief. Most the time a lost phone is recovered or found by the general public and then the fight over ethics ensues.

The career criminals will always have a way.

But they have to have their tools with them at the time.
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It certainly makes sense to give users the option to require a passcode to power down.  Seems like a trivially easy addition to make (with it off by default).

On the other hand, I have no doubt that thieves would get around this with a easy, low-tech solution (like tossing stolen phones in a RF-opaque container until the battery dies).

1) I've wanted and talked about this feature for years. It's not as easy as you think because you always need to be able to force a power cycle on the device if there is something going wrong with the SW. My solution to this is similar to how the iPhone will auto-reboot after being plugged into a power source for a spell after it runs out of power. I assume that occurs because it left a switch during the power down sequence to auto-boot when it has enough power. My solution is to use a discreet chip to orchestrate this process which wouldn't be tied to iOS. When you go to power down you will get the Touch ID or passcde request but when you hold down the Home and Sleep buttons for several seconds the command doesn't issue a shutDOWN but rather a reSTART which mean the device still gets to cycle in case of a system lock up but also has an extra layer of protection in case it's stolen.

2) I've also talked about the RF blocking/absorbing container but that would mean a premeditated theft. I'm sure it happens a lot but I'd bet that most are crimes of opportunity.

3) I really wish they'd add an option to lock the Settings app and to require Touch ID or a passcode to use alter any of the wireless states in Control Center.

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