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Safari remains largely the same in OS X Yosemite, but Apple has added a number of features and made a few key tweaks that make the venerable web browser more intelligent and a little easier to use.




Smart Search Bar

The Smart Search Bar, n?e Address Bar, is where the majority of Safari 8's new features and improvements can be found. Most noticeably, desktop Safari now follows the mobile Safari convention of hiding all but the root domain of a URL -- users need to give the search bar focus by clicking in it to reveal the full URL.







A number of changes come into play once users being to type in the search bar. If the user is currently on a web page, clicking in the search bar will result in an icon-stuffed dropdown menu of the users' favorite and most frequently visited sites. If the user is already at the Favorites or Top Sites screens, however, nothing will happen until the user begins typing.







In either case, once some text has been entered, the bar will default to a Mavericks-style dropdown of Google suggestions and history shortcuts. One notable addition in this view is a new quick links feature that integrates Spotlight suggestions, such as Wikipedia entries, directly into the dropdown.

Tabs

The most glaring addition to Safari 8's tabbed browsing is the new Mission Control-like tab overview. Activated from a dedicated button in the upper-right hand corner, the new look gives a birds-eye view of every tab currently open in that Safari window, grouped by website.






Safari 8's tab bar also has a slightly different behavior when there are a large number of tabs open, altering the width of tabs on either end, depending on where the currently-focused tab resides. Users can scroll through the bunched-up tabs by swiping side-to-side on their trackpad or Magic Mouse, allowing them to see tabs which are out of view --?this replaces the pulldown menu that previous appeared on the right-hand side when too many tabs were open.

Private Browsing

Private Browsing has been expanded in Safari 8, with users now able to create Chrome-like private windows while allowing other windows to remain open. Previously, going private meant taking every window private at the same time, an inconvenience for many users.




Opening a private window causes the smart search bar to turn a dark gray, similar to the paradigm used in iOS. A short message confirms that any visited pages, search history, or AutoFill information used in a private window won't be retained.




History

Safari's Clear History function is the beneficiary of a significant makeover. In another move reminiscent of Chrome, users can now choose to clear their history for the past hour, today, today and yesterday, or all time. Interestingly, it appears that Apple is set to synchronize browsing history on every device by default -- clearing history on a Mac will also clear history on any other device signed in to the same iCloud account.




Sharing

Safari 8 brings a huge expansion of sharing options, many of which can be customized using OS X's new systemwide Extensions functionality. Additionally, sharing is now done in translucent overlays -- choosing a sharing option will cause the Safari window to "swell" slightly as a screenshot is taken, which will then make its way into the sharing overlay while the rest of the window is darkened.

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During the Keynote, it appeared like the menubar was completely flat, but in the above screenshot, it appears to still have a bit of a bowed, gradient appearance. I wonder what the difference is?

(and aren't these articles read by a second person before posting? The typos are inexcusable)
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I know this completely unrelated, but I just wanted to point out how unreal this is.

 

It's a paradox, it's unreal, but it's more real than ever.

 

After the 7-1 stock split, Apple only has to go to $165.85 to become...

 

The world's first company to have a market capitalization of $1,000,000,000,000 or $1 Trillion dollars.. Wow, guys.

 

Unrelated, I know, but seriously.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post
Tabs
The most glaring addition to Safari 8's tabbed browsing is the new Mission Control-like tab overview. Activated from a dedicated button in the upper-right hand corner, the new look gives a birds-eye view of every tab currently open in that Safari window, grouped by website.
 

 

It’s embarrassing that Apple went an entire year and an entire OS with a “Tab View” that is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY USELESS. I’d be happy that they finally fixed it, but it shouldn’t have had to be fixed.

 

Originally Posted by torterra2020 View Post

After the 7-1 stock split, Apple only has to go to $165.85 to become… The world's first company to have a market capitalization of $1,000,000,000,000 or $1 Trillion dollars.. Wow, guys.

 

What day is that, again?

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

What day is that, again?

 

It's set to split on Monday, June 9th, 2014.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

It’s embarrassing that Apple went an entire year and an entire OS with a “Tab View” that is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY USELESS. I’d be happy that they finally fixed it, but it shouldn’t have had to be fixed.

 

What?  What was "useless" about it?  I use it every day and found it very straightforward.  I haven't used it yet--just read about it here, but I don't see how the scroll left-right thing is a big improvement.  But then I tend to have 6-8 tabs per window and 2 or 3 windows.  Maybe you keep dozens of tabs open?

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Originally Posted by malax View Post

What?  What was "useless" about it?

 

Tab “view”… and you can only view one tab.

 

 

HOW DOES THIS HELP ANYONE?

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And what makes a browser "venerable?"  The Safari of today is closer to today's Chrome and Firefox than it is to Safari of 5 years ago.  Now if you want to call iTunes "venerable" I can agree with you.  Although even then "long in the tooth" is more apt than a word that means "worthy of respect as a result of great age, wisdom, remarkable achievements, or similar qualities."

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Tab “view”… and you can only view one tab.

 

 

HOW DOES THIS HELP ANYONE?

 

Oh THAT.  Yeah, I have never used that.  You're right.  Thanks for the clarification.

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I never thought I'd say this, but I came to like the iPad's favorties-grid better than the bar, and turned the bar off. Now I'll do the same on the desktop!

Of course the bar is one click quicker... but what's even quicker than that? The Command-# shorcuts! Those work even when the bar is hidden.

So it's the best of all worlds: big, visual favorites that match the iPad, unclutterd UI that leaves more room for web content, instant keyboard launching of favorites, and a visible bar if you still want it.

I'm less pleased with the domain-only URL, but I accept it as long as it's shown on click and remains editable (as I'm sure it always will be, at least as a developer-menu toggle). I'd like an option to keep the full URL visible (with domain shown darker) the way it is now. It's useful! But not, I realize, to most people.
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What day is that, again?

Do you mean, "What day does it split", or, "What day does it hit $1 trillion"?

 

I think bets are in order on the latter.

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I'm less pleased with the domain-only URL, but I accept it as long as it's shown on click and remains editable (as I'm sure it always will be, at least as a developer-menu toggle). I'd like an option to keep the full URL visible (with domain shown darker) the way it is now. It's useful! But not, I realize, to most people.

1) Yes, it will have to remain editable or it would no longer be useful.

2) I, too, would like a Developer menu option for showing the full domain but I both understand and agree with Apple's choice to move to a domain-only system as it makes phishing scams more obvious for the average user and there is really no reason the average user need to see the string query in a URL. I read that latest Google Chrome versions do the same thing.

3) My new issue with Safari 8 in Yosemite is when typing in the Search Bar the default choice is to search the site of the website that's currently loaded. You have to go below that to do a Search engine search or open up a new, empty Tab to get results that are not base on a website. I'd like to be able to move my google search option up.

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Do you mean, "What day does it split", or, "What day does it hit $1 trillion"?

I think bets are in order on the latter.

The Ex Date is June 9th, next Monday.

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Anyone out there able to open a jpeg with Yosemite? Preview opens but the jpeg won't show up I tried it with a screen shot and still nothing?

Thanks for any help

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Originally Posted by mwhiteco View Post
Anyone out there able to open a jpeg with Yosemite? Preview opens but the jpeg won't show up I tried it with a screen shot and still nothing?

Thanks for any help

 

Yep. Works fine.

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Yep. Works fine.


Thank you. I think I will install the drive and see if that fixes it I am using it on a firewire set up.

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Energy Saver has moved now from a fluorescent bulb to an LED bulb.

And that’s nice, because the squiggle nonsense was always ugly.

 

EDIT: Oh, Apple.

 

YES! We can finally get rid of useless nonsense in the Share menu! Screw you, Facebook!

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The most glaring addition to Safari 8's tabbed browsing is the new Mission Control-like tab overview.

 

I don't believe I've ever heard those words phrased together that way before.   :\

   Apple develops an improved programming language.  Google copied Java.  Everything you need to know, right there.

 

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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

I don't believe I've ever heard those words phrased together that way before.   :\

 

It’s a spectacular view, by the way.

 

Though this bothers me greatly:


What happened to “block from third party ad providers"? What if I want to block them and only accept cookies from the exact site I visited? What if I DON’T want to save cookies from previously visited websites?

 

I don’t like this.

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...Tendency, please stop, Nicolas cage? What Internet pages you looking at over there?
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Originally Posted by daveinpublic View Post
…Nicolas cage?

 

I really hope that references to Nicolas Cage become a running joke in AI articles. Nothing overt at all–just really subtle things like the image above.

 

A Christmastime article could have a picture of Santa in prison or something.

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Yep. Works fine.


I restarted the computer and now the jpeg's work fine. But I had Safari crash 4 times so I went back to Firefox.

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Though this bothers me greatly:


What happened to “block from third party ad providers"? What if I want to block them and only accept cookies from the exact site I visited? What if I DON’T want to save cookies from previously visited websites?

 

I don’t like this.

I totally agree. It's nice that you can block website data in addition to cookies (you can't in Snow Leopard's Safari), and it's also nice you can just allow cookies from the current website, but that's worthless if you can't still block 3rd party cookies. Hopefully there'll be a lot of feedback on this, and it will be changed.

 

There should be a separate button to block 3rd party cookies, so you can leave it selected no matter what other cookies you allow. 

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What day is that, again?

Do you mean, "What day does it split", or, "What day does it hit $1 trillion"?

 

I think bets are in order on the latter.

So far, we have May 2015 from me and June 2015 from TS. 

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...Tendency, please stop, Nicolas cage? What Internet pages you looking at over there?

 

I've invited him over for some beers; still waiting to hear back. Dunno why, I left the post on AI several days ago.

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post #27 of 43

Safari 8 has APNG support!

 

I think that’s neat. APNG isn’t even a standard (why IS that?), but it’s good to see a format superior to GIF adopted natively.

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Does anyone know if Yosemite restores the ability to have screenshots appear on your desktop instead of them going to the Pictures folder?

 

Easily the worst part of my Mavericks experience.

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Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post
Does anyone know if Yosemite restores the ability to have screenshots appear on your desktop instead of them going to the Pictures folder?

 

Easily the worst part of my Mavericks experience.

 

They go to the Desktop by default in OS X. You’ve changed something along the way.

 

defaults write com.apple.screencapture location ~/Desktop/

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Hmm. My screenshots started going to my Pictures folder around the time I switched to Mavericks, so I thought it was a system change. Googling for help seemed to confirm others were seeing this and it could only be changed in the Terminal (which I tend to avoid.)

 

My apologies for interrupting the thread with this. Carry on.

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I'm less pleased with the domain-only URL, but I accept it as long as it's shown on click and remains editable (as I'm sure it always will be, at least as a developer-menu toggle). I'd like an option to keep the full URL visible (with domain shown darker) the way it is now. It's useful! But not, I realize, to most people.

 

Has anyone figured out how to drag and drop a URL from the address bar to create a shortcut on the desktop or some other location other than the browser's Favorites collection?

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Has anyone figured out how to drag and drop a URL from the address bar to create a shortcut on the desktop or some other location other than the browser's Favorites collection?

Drag the circle with the plus sign in it (where the favicon would be) and drop it on the Desktop to create the .webloc file.

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Drag the circle with the plus sign in it (where the favicon would be) and drop it on the Desktop to create the .webloc file.


Thanks!

 

I'd tried everything but this, assuming the the plus button was solely for adding a page to the reading list.

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Thanks!

I'd tried everything but this, assuming the the plus button was solely for adding a page to the reading list.

I couldn't find it either but I just assumed that they couldn't have missed this feature. Sometimes just telling yourself it must exist (despite no proof to support that claim) is enough to push you to find it.

I'm not sure I like that new setup. The favicon was a useful pictograph for easily determining what site I was on. I even wish I could use them in my Favorites Bar because they are easier to discern at a glance and I store considerably more.

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It’s a spectacular view, by the way.

 

Though this bothers me greatly:


What happened to “block from third party ad providers"? What if I want to block them and only accept cookies from the exact site I visited? What if I DON’T want to save cookies from previously visited websites?

 

I don’t like this.

 

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I totally agree. It's nice that you can block website data in addition to cookies (you can't in Snow Leopard's Safari), and it's also nice you can just allow cookies from the current website, but that's worthless if you can't still block 3rd party cookies. Hopefully there'll be a lot of feedback on this, and it will be changed.

 

There should be a separate button to block 3rd party cookies, so you can leave it selected no matter what other cookies you allow. 

 

I'm probably missing something here, but why wouldn't the option to "block cookies and website data not from current website" be the same as "blocking 3rd party cookies"?

 

Aren't all 3rd party cookies not from the current website, by definition?


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I restarted the computer and now the jpeg's work fine. But I had Safari crash 4 times so I went back to Firefox.

 

Interesting. I haven't had Safari crash yet and I currently have 15 tabs open across 7 websites with 7 extensions installed.

 

Then again some of those extensions are blocking trackers and Flash. Wouldn't surprise me if Flash were to blame. ;)

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I'm probably missing something here, but why wouldn't the option to "block cookies and website data not from current website" be the same as "blocking 3rd party cookies"?

Aren't all 3rd party cookies not from the current website, by definition?

I think you're right, and my initial reaction was similar to TS'.

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Originally Posted by freediverx View Post

I'm probably missing something here, but why wouldn't the option to "block cookies and website data not from current website" be the same as "blocking 3rd party cookies"?

 

Aren't all 3rd party cookies not from the current website, by definition?

 

Aha! I get it now. That’s an odd wording.

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Truly outstanding New Look Performance Behavior Sharing Smart Search and HTML5 more and more overtaking on the hateful flash player... all i need is now inside Safari v8.0 I can give it 5 stars 1smile.gif

Btw: the separated backward and forward i hope Apple gives an alternative integrated one more beautiful for me 1smile.gif

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