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Hahaha, wow. I just took a screenshot of my cruelly inaccurate account balance. It's going to be a long time before I legitimately see 7 figures in there for real.

Dammit!  I had 7x my normal balance and should have done the same thing and then played a nasty trick on the wife.  Oh, well... I guess i have to wait for the next split.

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I used to use a person for a few things here and there, but I learned quickly that it made a lot more sense for me to understand and control every aspect of my money instead of handing every vital function off to someone else. Remember, if someone manages to lose all your money, you might get mad at them but you'll still be broke.

Most of what I do is done through the bank. Not much done outside if it. Also, I have a company pension plan and company RRSP. I'm 56 years now and I don't plan to retire for a long time if possible.

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post #43 of 88
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Currently, Apple has 8.61 million shares outstanding, which will jump to over 6 billion on Monday.

huh? don't let pesky little facts get in the way of your "reporting".

"Personally, I would like nothing more than to thoroughly proof each and every word of my articles before posting. But I can't." -- appleinsider's mike campbell, august 15, 2013

i guess mr. oliver is a protege.
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Apple did the best it could but it was plain to see Apple's stock momentum ran out of gas.  Apparently, Amazon's 3D smartphone overshadowed Apple's split as the Amazon smartphone is being touted as another thorn in Apple's side.  All available money over the past couple of days has been poured into Amazon while Apple's stock was left to stagnate.  It seems there were a few talking heads who thought Apple might reach as high as $700 pre-split.  That was really too much to ask for.  Now the analysts are saying Apple is going to fall hard because it's at nosebleed levels and has risen too high too fast over the past couple of months.  I'm sure hoping they're wrong and the stock is taking a breather before the mom and pop retail investors jump in.


You know Constable, there was a time way, way, WAY long ago where you used to speak coherently, post actual debate & join in honest discussions of various opinions.

Now, you really fell off the wagon and just make post-after-post of nonstop nonsense, trolling, and just sheer drivel.  Did you get burned in the market, make a bad call or something for you to take a position of nonstop doom-and-gloom?? Doesn't it get tiring for you to support such ridiculous products (Amazon 3D phone) only to be proven insanely wrong time-after-time?  

I mean really.. What's up with you?  Not getting the attention you want, so then you feel that trolling is the only thing left for you?  Grow up man.

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huh? don't let pesky little facts get in the way of your "reporting".

"Personally, I would like nothing more than to thoroughly proof each and every word of my articles before posting. But I can't." -- appleinsider's mike campbell, august 15, 2013

i guess mr. oliver is a protege.

Well at least they're trying. Check comment 14 for what they originally had. It is pretty hilarious that even when making corrections they still screw it up. However they're still raking in the money from page views regardless, so I guess the joke is really on us.
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Question is: buy or not to buy? Wait and see if it goes down more then buy or buy right away?

 

Buy and hold until you need them in retirement.

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post #47 of 88
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Question is: buy or not to buy? Wait and see if it goes down more then buy or buy right away?

 

Buy and hold until you need them in retirement.

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Question is: buy or not to buy? Wait and see if it goes down more then buy or buy right away?

Well, you could always go long, then sell short. That's hedging.

 

In any case, asking anonymous contributors (which includes both fanbois and haters) at an Apple rumors tech forum for AAPL investment advice is laughable at best.

 

Good luck.

 

I would be more inclined to trust some poor soul in this forum over some hapless 'analyst' whose advice is invariably to buy when the price is rising and sell when it is falling.

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post #48 of 88
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Checked my account and it already reflects the split shares also...
Man I pulled up my account and just about fell over as it was about $100K higher than the last time I checked. Then I see AAPL listed as "pending today's transactions" and I came back down to earth.

 

You must be quite the contortionist to be able to fall over and then come back down to earth. Maybe you live in Australia on the bottom of the world! 😃

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post #49 of 88
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Actually, his post is a pretty accurate assessment of what has happened. 

 

Whose is?!

 

His.

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post #50 of 88
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What? No mention about the minimum shares one can buy.

 

One.

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post #51 of 88
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Amazon's 3D phone? Really? Please just shut the **** up. I'm in awe that there's an actual human being behind that keyboard spewing those rants over and over again in every fucking thread. Do you expect Apple stock to rise in value linearly, infinitely? How the **** is it stagnating, because we've had ONE DAY where it didn't rise? Are you insane? Do you know how stock prices work? Sell every share you have and spare us your never-ending drivel.  

Ever thought about anger management courses?

 

I think he manages it rather well. Slurpy gives it, his keyboard receives it.

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post #52 of 88
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No mention about the minimum shares one can buy.

You could place an order for one share at the market price if you want, but why? Why not make it worth your while? You could always put an order in for as little as a couple hundred dollars and keep building the account monthly, or whenever money is available. This would be a "dollar cost averaging" strategy. Just put the same amount every month into purchases.

The first order of business is getting an account with a broker and not going crazy or 'betting the house'.

 

Who says one share isn't worth his while? One share at the new price will currently be the equivalent of more than 92 years of Steve Jobs's salary when he was CEO of Apple. Who could ask for more than that?

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post #53 of 88
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You could place an order for one share at the market price if you want, but why? Why not make it worth your while? You could always put an order in for as little as a couple hundred dollars and keep building the account monthly, or whenever money is available. This would be a "dollar cost averaging" strategy. Just put the same amount every month into purchases.

The first order of business is getting an account with a broker and not going crazy or 'betting the house'.

Quote from Apple:

 

Apple indicated that it elected to do a 7-1 split because, as the company noted, "we want Apple stock to be more accessible to a larger number of investors."

 

I had heard the minimum amount one can purchase is ten shares. Fact or fiction?

 

Fiction. It's one.

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post #54 of 88

The news reported about this spilt was incorrect.

 

It was claimed that there would be no after hours trading on friday for AAPL, yet I noticed that there was.

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Thanks, AI, for getting the close of market stock price on Friday right.
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post #56 of 88
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Do you EVER get tired of spewing your fucking drivel? Just STFU, GTFO, and never come back! Tallest Skill will lock the door behind you!

From what I understand, he purchased some stock back when it was at around $700. Before that he was a huge Apple cheerleader. I'm sure you know the rest...

His tone has actually lessened as the stock has come back up closer to his purchase price. Whether or not he had sold it before now, I truly can't guess.
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The news reported about this spilt was incorrect.

It was claimed that there would be no after hours trading on friday for AAPL, yet I noticed that there was.

You selling? 1smile.gif
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You selling? 1smile.gif

 

I'm not selling or buying any AAPL at the moment.

 

I was prepared to pick up some AAPL after the last earnings if it dropped, but as we all know, that didn't happen.

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I'm not selling or buying any AAPL at the moment.

I was prepared to pick up some AAPL after the last earnings if it dropped, but as we all know, that didn't happen.

I'm holding. With a stop loss. Although I had to cancel that today because I wasn't sure how the stop loss would affect the share price dropping on Monday.

If they release some cool shit this year, I think it should be NICE!
post #60 of 88
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I'm holding. With a stop loss. Although I had to cancel that today because I wasn't sure how the stop loss would affect the share price dropping on Monday.

If they release some cool shit this year, I think it should be NICE!

 

I agree that AAPL definitely has some momentum going for it right now, and it will probably only get better when they start to release all of their awaited products later this year. 

 

I'm going to see how AAPL trades these next few weeks right after the split, because I would like to pick some up, but I am always cautious, since I will never forget that insane drop from 700 to 390, that was just ridiculous.

 

Unless I'm doing a real short term day trade or swing trade, I don't use any stop losses at all. If I buy some AAPL for the longterm, then I don't intend to sell for a while, and especially not if it drops by a certain percentage. It'll eventually recover, even if it takes months or a year, so a stop loss just means losing money as far as I'm concerned. When a stock drops a lot, that is when it's a good time to be buying, not selling, in my opinion.

post #61 of 88
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I agree that AAPL definitely has some momentum going for it right now, and it will probably only get better when they start to release all of their awaited products later this year. 

I'm going to see how AAPL trades these next few weeks right after the split, because I would like to pick some up, but I am always cautious, since I will never forget that insane drop from 700 to 390, that was just ridiculous.

Unless I'm doing a real short term day trade or swing trade, I don't use any stop losses at all. If I buy some AAPL for the longterm, then I don't intend to sell for a while, and especially not if it drops by a certain percentage. It'll eventually recover, even if it takes months or a year, so a stop loss just means losing money as far as I'm concerned. When a stock drops a lot, that is when it's a good time to be buying, not selling, in my opinion.

Went to PM. I'm sure no one else want to hear about stocks...
post #62 of 88
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I had heard the minimum amount one can purchase is ten shares. Fact or fiction?

This post sadly illustrates why one should not follow investing advice from anonymous Internet forums like AppleInsider.

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This post sadly illustrates why one should not follow investing advice from anonymous Internet forums like AppleInsider.

 

It's no different than any other subject that gets discussed on the internet. There's some good advice, there's some bad advice, there's some FUD and there's some noise. People need to be able to filter out the bad info and the wrong info from the good, because in the end, a person's finances are their own responsibility.

 

The same can be said of following the advice of many "Pros", like analysts etc. A lot them are totally clueless and often get it wrong too.

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It's no different than any other subject that gets discussed on the internet. There's some good advice, there's some bad advice, there's some FUD and there's some noise. People need to be able to filter out the bad info and the wrong info from the good, because in the end, a person's finances are their own responsibility.

The same can be said of following the advice of many "Pros", like analysts etc. A lot them are totally clueless and often get it wrong too.

One only needs to look at a certain Jim Cramer and his public fund and obviously in retrospect see how valuable the information the "pros" have on anything regarding money. ...and he has a huge public following and show.

He's even written books on the subject. I find it hilarious that his biggest seller is "how to get back to EVEN". LOL!

I wouldn't take a shred of advice from a so called "Pro".

They're good to watch and listen to, but they have no more knowledge of how any company is going to go than you or I. They just have a public platform on which they tout their ideas.

I think there's almost a common adage that when the analysts say it's time to buy, it's time to sell, and vs visa.

Sorry Apple ][, this post was meant more towards mpantone.
Edited by Silver Shadow - 6/7/14 at 8:12pm
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It's no different than any other subject that gets discussed on the internet.

No, it is not.

 

A recent problem is that many sites have gotten rid of the "thumbs down" rating.

 

A decent online forum would allow for community-based content rating, with a threshold for post viewing. Let's say a post got four "thumbs up" and seven "thumbs downs" ratings. That's a -3 rating. The individual user could set a post viewing threshold to not show posts below -1.

 

The key is for human-based moderators to make sure haters don't destroy a site.

 

If you want pure garbage, check out Yahoo Answers. It is stunningly atrocious.

 

The forum community rates content, not a person.

 

I realize that this might lead to some posts getting visibility as "popular" posts, rather than for accuracy, but human-based moderation for accuracy does not scale.

 

Just look at Slashdot. That place was an absolute train wreck before community-based scoring was introduced. The site never recovered to former levels, the site operators let is escape from them. There are plenty of other examples of online forums that have fallen out of favor because site operators were too late in implementing adequate measures in maintaining a high level of quality participation.

 

This site is following the same direction MacRumors has gone.

 

The funny thing is that private e-mail discussion lists with carefully-vetted members are probably the best source of information.

 

Worse, for investing, there are plenty of people here who aren't even old enough to own a brokerage account who make comments. I'm okay with people spouting off about operating systems, software, apps, peripherals, "what my brother/dad/uncle has", but some of the investment commentary shows that some don't even know the difference between revenue and profit.

 

Appalling.


Edited by mpantone - 6/7/14 at 9:13pm
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No, it is not.

A recent problem is that many sites have gotten rid of the "thumbs down" rating.

A decent online forum would allow for community-based content rating, with a threshold for post viewing. Let's say a post got four "thumbs up" and seven "thumbs downs" ratings. That's a -3 rating. The individual user could set a post viewing threshold to not show posts below -1.

The key is for human-based moderators to make sure haters don't destroy a site.

The forum community rates content, not a person.

I disagree. Most of the posts on other sites that I've seen 'thumbed down" were clearly based on psychological reasons and not logic reasons.

Something I'm sure you've seen is "Apple is doomed" with over two hundred "thumbs up" while an actual factual and intellectual post is thumbed down over 1000 times.
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Well, go figure. Slashdot is a shadow of its former self. During the worst time, the site's comment forum was completely unreadable.

 

If you think online Q&A forums are in largely good shape, enjoy. I cannot take that away from you.

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Well, go figure. Slashdot is a shadow of its former self. During the worst time, the site's comment forum was completely unreadable.

If you think online Q&A forums are in largely good shape, enjoy. I cannot take that away from you.

I know it has a stigma around here, but if you're truly looking for Q&A type information Google is your friend. (Maybe I'll get banned)

Last I looked this is certainly not a Q&A site. It's a rumor, and I can't stress that enough, site. More useful information comes from the posters here than the actual articles.

However, here, fandom runs hot. So someone posting something that makes any sense what so ever would get "thumbed down" to obscurity from what you think should be implemented.

Shlashdot? If you're complaining about pre-pubescent people advising on stocks and you mention what's considers "the projects" of a site in the same post, you have somewhat placed yourself.
Edited by Silver Shadow - 6/7/14 at 10:36pm
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A decent online forum would allow for community-based content rating, with a threshold for post viewing. Let's say a post got four "thumbs up" and seven "thumbs downs" ratings. That's a -3 rating. The individual user could set a post viewing threshold to not show posts below -1.

The key is for human-based moderators to make sure haters don't destroy a site.

Worse, for investing, there are plenty of people here who aren't even old enough to own a brokerage account who make comments. I'm okay with people spouting off about operating systems, software, apps, peripherals, "what my brother/dad/uncle has", but some of the investment commentary shows that some don't even know the difference between revenue and profit.

Appalling.

The human based moderators placed most of my original posts on hold for 12 to 24 hours. Those posts were irrelevant by the time they were actually posted. So they're doing their job, unless you don't like my posts...

I agree that there are a lot of people here who do not even understand what a stock is, let alone an income stock, growth stock, or others. I also agree you should not take advice from anyone here on stocks. I recommend you do your own research, and I would hope you listen to, but not blindly follow the so called "pro's". They're just regular people and they can offer you insights, but don't let them influence your decisions too much.

In stocks there are no rules. There are no absolutes. It's a huge psychological experiment based on faith (money). Taking advice from anyone, "pro" (which there are few and you'll never get advice from them) or individuals, only means you can point a finger at someone if you lose.
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Originally Posted by Silver Shadow View Post
The human based moderators placed most of my original posts on hold for 12 to 24 hours. 

 

Nope, that’s Huddler automation. It automatically flags posts from accounts it thinks are spam or previously banned users.

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Mr Odo is smoking weed again! hey dude if you are so fearful, why don't you do a buy some stock, when it splits then protect the downside by buying some long terms PUT options (LEAPS) at $140 which will give you the right to sell them at $140 if the stock tanks? thus limiting your downside?

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I'm not selling or buying any AAPL at the moment.

I was prepared to pick up some AAPL after the last earnings if it dropped, but as we all know, that didn't happen.

I'm holding. With a stop loss. Although I had to cancel that today because I wasn't sure how the stop loss would affect the share price dropping on Monday.

If they release some cool shit this year, I think it should be NICE!

Not so sure I want to buy cold faeces from Apple, but great new or updated products would be welcome.
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Yukari Kane claimed the response to WWDC was the most tepid she's seen in 6 years (not sure what WWDC she was watching).
Don't forget that she has a book out, whose entire premise is that after SJ, Apple is dead in the water. Doesn't make it right, just pointing out her motivation.
If you want to see the responses she got from the statement, here they are, for your reading pleasure.
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Not so sure I want to buy cold faeces from Apple, but great new or updated products would be welcome.

My brother and I have taken to calling post split Apple as "Apple Sauce". That's usually cold. On the other, ....shouldn't say ...shouldn't say, ah heck. I can deliver on demand.
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My brother and I have taken to calling post split Apple as "Apple Sauce". That's usually cold. On the other, ....shouldn't say ...shouldn't say, ah heck. I can deliver on demand.

What are you babbling about, man?

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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What are you babbling about, man?

Usually when I babble it's about things that make no sense but are utterly awesome! Things like Spam Sandwitches!
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Usually when I babble it's about things that make no sense but are utterly awesome! Things like Spam Sandwitches!

It would be nice if AI modified the mobile site so I could block you without going into desktop mode.

Edit: I'm back...and you're blocked. Goodbye.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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It would be nice if AI modified the mobile site so I could block you without going into desktop mode.

Edit: I'm back...and you're blocked. Goodbye.

I'll one up ya. I'm gone. Goodbye.
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Spam, you can block on mobile. See the user name to the left of their post....twiddle the arrow next to their name and select 'block user' from the drop down list. Easy.1cool.gif
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